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    So whafe, waht say you about the green " personalised " FR lookalite?

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    check this out for those who speaks german:
    http://mtbisokay.de/?p=1464

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    check this out for those who speaks german:
    http://mtbisokay.de/?p=1464

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    A picture from the linked site....
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    looks like an old GT LTS !!!!!!!!!!

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    The online translation from the above website link:

    We were staying the last week with Nicolai and have fetched our first "long time" test bike. This clarifies in the bike is that it concerns a completely new model and we may test first of his kind.


    How we have arrived Tuesday midday at the Nicolai HQ, the frame was still disassembled in his individual parts and without painting. The fact that is called, we might consider a nice color for the prototypes because, in the end, the bike will accompany us quite a while. The bike looks already quite sweet and I am glad very much for the next Six months in those we the bike will test. The bike will accompany us on all possible trips, will become write it every now and then a little bit pimpen and at the end a detailed report.
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    hmmm - interesting - that deffo has a front derailleur stub... looks like an ST front with a FR back

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    My thoughts too Karve, unless however the stub is just there so to speak. When speaking directly to Mr Nicolai, the front der was for sure going to mount to the seat stem, frame weight is going to be the same as a current FR.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    My thoughts too Karve, unless however the stub is just there so to speak. When speaking directly to Mr Nicolai, the front der was for sure going to mount to the seat stem, frame weight is going to be the same as a current FR.....
    That would be cool and id love to see it. I hope your right....Cant see how they are going to achive that without some bendy tubing though?

    Also there appears to be no headset gusset on that frame which is very un-Nicolai!

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    Yes agree. I am not going to read into this to much to be honest. Nothing seems to marry up with my phone call with Karl re this bike.... I am being open on this one....
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    Looks like a Fr back, with St front and Am headtube gussets.
    I think we will see some refinings, itīs a prototyp.

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    Probably same geo but different look... hmm... i going with Whafe, i don think this is close to the end product though...

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    Prototype...


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    Some intereesting info here

    http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...N%26start%3D10

    Looks like a launch on the 21st of Aug?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    My thoughts too Karve, unless however the stub is just there so to speak. When speaking directly to Mr Nicolai, the front der was for sure going to mount to the seat stem, frame weight is going to be the same as a current FR.....
    When did you talk to Kalle?

    Two Guys from the German Forum say he confirmd the stub just 2 or 3 Weeks ago in Willingen


    Hi btw.

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    Here are the targets: travel 160 to 190 mm, weight under OD 3.3
    kg, Damper 222 x 70, steering angle: 67 °, 73 ° seat angle
    bracket: 22 mm on axis, HS standard option

    copied and translated from German forum

    bracket 22mm? whats that!

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    I think it' bottom bracket height : +22mm as compared to rear axle.
    Which means 372mm to the ground, seems really high ! Might be an error here.
    Never enough singletracks !

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    Weight under OD 3.3 - that will be going some as my FR - Medium front small rear no paint frame is 3.47kg!

    Slightly slacker seat and head than the FR - Nice - Longer shock too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samwell
    I think it' bottom bracket height : +22mm as compared to rear axle.
    Which means 372mm to the ground, seems really high ! Might be an error here.
    Could be right the FR is +20 and this has more travel

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    I spoke with Karl around 2 weeks ago, launch date is set for late August at the bike show.

    Exciting all the same.... Just have to wait and see.

    I did send an email to Nicolai to show the link above and get what info we can to feed the need of knowing....
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    what fork is fitted to the test bike ?
    160 or 180mm ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    what fork is fitted to the test bike ?
    160 or 180mm ?
    Pretty certain it is a 180mm Totem....... Guess some would run a 170mm new Lyrik when they come out....

    I would think that this new model will have been designed around a 180mm Totem fork though...
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    once again, you have those very closed head angle... may be nice on flat ground, but when it comes to real mountain, where the bike would be home, it's pretty bad....

    I love Nicolai's bikes, but seriously, a bike with 190mm rear travel should have a 66,5 to 65,5 head angle, not 67....

    and it's not a Totem, a 40mm fork is much bigger. if it was one, you would reconize it from the inner ring which are even bigger on the outside. It's porbably the Lyric in 170

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    200mm forks will also fit

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    0007, with the bottom bracket so high, I think they as usual mesure the geometry with the adjustment plate in the middle position, and it becomes a really interesting geometry in the low position, with low bottom bracket and more less head angle.
    It's the same thing on my Ion, the announced geometry is not so good, but in the reality it's way better with the low bottom bracket and head angle ! The problem is that it might be really confusing for those who don't know that you can have a diffrent geometry than announced.
    Never enough singletracks !

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