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    Helius AC -v- SC Blur LT Carbon

    considering the Blur LT Carbon based on the weight and the incredible stiffness.

    very very stiff, very very light, similar price as an AC and the AC is likely to pedal strike......and the AC is bloody heavy in comparison.......

    i'm not worried about carbon failure / delam / rock strike.........

    it's more about the weight and the stiffnesss and thus the LTC selection..........

    HELP !

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    Don't come crying to us when you've smashed it into splinters on some rock garden :-D

    In all seriousness, I've got a Blur LT and it's a great bike, so enjoy it if you get it.

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    not worried about rock strikes ian. more concerned about ride quality and trail peppy zip.

    i'm a real fan of nicolai but feel that the nicolai's are simply too heavy in comparison but accept the stiffness is conseqential, etc.

    carbon is the way forward in 2011 and manufacturers have now adapted their construction techniques to protect against failure......

    i'm talking myself into it !

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    If stiffness is a concern...

    http://www.singletrackworld.com/revi...-ac-part-deux/

    Looks like you want a carbon bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    If stiffness is a concern...

    http://www.singletrackworld.com/revi...-ac-part-deux/

    Looks like you want a carbon bike.

    I think you miss read it, he seemed happy with the stiffness of the rear end

    Cant say i agree with him on the pedal bob, im running my AM with an RP23BV and the only time the pro-pedal gets switch across is when ive yeti'd it upside down into a bush, i would have thought if it was possible the AC was an even better climber, maybe he's abit to keen to get out the saddle and mash it.

    Not sure why anyone opt for 3x10 but each to their own

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpuk
    I think you miss read it, he seemed happy with the stiffness of the rear end
    That was my point, but he seems to want a lighter bike... I come from a very stiff Titus Switchblade (BIG rectangular and thick wall stanchions with not very shy dropouts and 4 single row bearings on the main pivot, same as on SuperMoto and not far from an El Guapo) and the AC is even stiffer by a slight margin. Impressive.

    Quote Originally Posted by wpuk
    Cant say i agree with him on the pedal bob, im running my AM with an RP23BV and the only time the pro-pedal gets switch across is when ive yeti'd it upside down into a bush, i would have thought if it was possible the AC was an even better climber, maybe he's abit to keen to get out the saddle and mash it.
    Same here. I run my shocks (Romic Coil, Monarch B Tune with the highest leverage and high volume can) with 30% sag and almost no compression damping on both and I'm pushing taller gears than I did on the Switchblade.

    It may not suit to mashers and HL bikes have a reputation for bobbing at the other side of the pond.

    IMHO, bob has more to do with pedaling technique than suspension design.
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    problem with the AC and the inherent stiffness is it comes at the cost of additional weight.
    the BLTC is 4.5lbs including shock !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    We the people ...

    Yes... a lighter bike is really the answer to all your biking issues... move along now people... nothing to see here...

    Have a banana

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    don't want a banana - i want a light and stiff 140mm trail bike, thanks.

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    BB height:

    - AC: 35,4 cm
    - Blur: 34,3 cm

    Pedal strike ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    the BLTC is 4.5lbs including shock !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Is'nt that the weight of the 100mm XC or have they shaved 1.5lbs of for 2011?

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    Santacruz website is saying

    "Frame weight with RockShox Monarch 3.3 Shock (Medium) - approx 5.67lbs."

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    4.48lbs appears to be the weight for the Blur XC not the LTC.

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    Blur LTC "a large frame is 6lb/2.7kg" vs Helius AM "Gewicht 2,6 kg (Größe M, Schwarz Elox)" Ho, Ho, Ho.

    You'll have to remind me....what's the point of the Blur LTC?

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    Ac is 2.6kg excluding shock in medium

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    Just buy that thing.

    I bet some here would just love to say "I told you so." Not me though.

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    i'm back to the AC now - less than 0.5lb difference...................!

    i love the anticipation and extended teasing prior to purchase !

    makes the first ride so sweet

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    fwiw the bltc isn't 4.5lbs with shock apparently.

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    Build spec. ? Colour ?

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    TLR- Was told by Nicolai UK,order now for before Xmas delivery.

    You know you want to.

    As Testmaen--Colour,options build spec

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    The two bikes are very different, and it doesn't seem like stiffness or weight would be the deciding factor between the two. I would buy the one that I liked best after head to head test rides.

    The Blur LT is a great bike, which is probably why everyone has one, but the problem is that....everyone has one.

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