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    There is 2 baby for my shop ;-)

    Picture 1 - AC Pinion
    Picture 2 - AM Pinion
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    Mon Dieu, n'est-ce pas magnifique? My God, is that not beautiful?

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    I'm waiting for the "I smell sex and candy"!

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    The AM color combination is sick - super idea!

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    Wow is all i can say

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    There's been a new arrival!

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    ИICOLAI Ion 18 PINION, Bright White gloss powdercoated:

    Courtesy of drurs.
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    Anyone got a Helius Pinion AM yet?-original_ion18_pinion_10.jpg  

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    Stunning bike....
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    For the love of the little donkey that carried the virgin mary, would ya go on!

    That is stunning. The gloss white really suits the lines and form.

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    FUNK ME thats nice!!! loving that they've moved the chain tensioner to the cranks instead of at the back. Hmmmmmmmmmm now thats just thrown all my new bike plans up in the air!!

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    Wow, nice ride! But does the chain still need some shortening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midgetman View Post
    Wow, nice ride! But does the chain still need some shortening?
    Of course. As durus told that built-up was provisionally, just to take some first pics for curious forum users.

    A more proper chain set-up that dosen´t look as much weird:
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    Dam, just had a wet dream...... Seriously seriously beautiful piece of kit!
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    Very nice. Looking forward to hearing how the Pinion holds up over the long term.
    Don't forget to fix the crank arm alignment prior to your first ride on the white bike.

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    That look absolutely stunning,

    We all need a 1st ride report.

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    Does anyone know what size rear axle is required for the Helius AM Pinion...the tech sheet isn't up on their website yet. Thanks in advance.

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    I must admit I could get used to that BB mounted chain tensioner.

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    They look so so nice, however, mine might be a no go because there is a 100kg rider weight limit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by irban_bike View Post
    Does anyone know what size rear axle is required for the Helius AM Pinion...the tech sheet isn't up on their website yet. Thanks in advance.
    135 mm / 12 mm

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    Specified weights:
    1. green Helius AM, complete build-up (see pics) 16,6 kg (guru39)
    2. white Ion 18, complete build-up (see pics) 18,5 kg (drurs)


    Part list of the white Ion 18 (courtesy drurs)


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    Quote Originally Posted by irban_bike View Post
    Does anyone know what size rear axle is required for the Helius AM Pinion...the tech sheet isn't up on their website yet. Thanks in advance.
    it will be also available in 12x142mm.

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    Is it a trick of the light, or is that a ZS44/ZS56 head tube on that white Ion 18?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irban_bike View Post
    Does anyone know what size rear axle is required for the Helius AM Pinion...the tech sheet isn't up on their website yet. Thanks in advance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm6 View Post
    135 mm / 12 mm
    Quote Originally Posted by cyril_88 View Post
    it will be also available in 12x142mm.
    Of course, ИICOLAI offers both rear axle standard options for the Helius AM PINION (same for traditional Helius AM): 12x135mm | 12x142mm.

    ALUTECH offers both these options for the Fanes Allmountain PINION, too (same for the traditional Fanes Allmountain).

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    Quote Originally Posted by geetee1972 View Post
    Is it a trick of the light, or is that a ZS44/ZS56 head tube on that white Ion 18?
    Given the headset type "RESET WAN.5 Shorty" (S.H.I.S. ZS49/28.6 | ZS49/30) is specified correctly in drurus´ part list, the headtube should be S.H.I.S. ZS49 | ZS49.

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    I'd get that chain a few links shorter. I reckon you want the tensioner as near to horizontal as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolai-uk View Post
    I'd get that chain a few links shorter. I reckon you want the tensioner as near to horizontal as possible.
    I would have hoped that they would have removed the Coil from the shock and checked that the tensioner has enough to take the chain length reduction under full compression of rear end.

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    Weight of the above black anodized Helius AM PINION, including ROCK SHOX Monarch Plus 216 x 63 mm (8,5 x 2,5”) 6,96 kg (guru39).

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    The white Ion 18 PINION (drurus) once again, now with a more refined build-up including a shortened chain.

    I have hoped that he would have got the chain even some links shorter. He told that he would like to play with the gearing (chainring/sprocket) yet.
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    ИICOLAI Helius AM PINION, blue anodized. Weight, including BOS Vip´R 216 x 64 mm: 6,9 kg (OssiOskar).
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    Mine arrived on Friday and needs a couple of bits to finish but here's the progress so far:

    Anyone got a Helius Pinion AM yet?-am-pinion-1.jpg

    Anyone got a Helius Pinion AM yet?-am-pinion-2.jpg

    Anyone got a Helius Pinion AM yet?-am-pinion-3.jpg

    Spec might change a bit over the next few days but it's not far off.

    I suppose it's time to let my old AM go now .
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    sdr,
    Beautiful.
    Is that the frame weight? What did your full build come out to weigh?
    Thanks,

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    Amazing !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugbyred View Post
    sdr,
    Beautiful.
    Is that the frame weight? What did your full build come out to weigh?
    Thanks,

    Eric
    You'll need to ignore the last pic of the weight (user error!). I was going to post a picture of the current unfinished weight but I uploaded the wrong picture which I then tried to delete but obviously never. The current weight with Fox RP23 is just over 33lb and I think the only thing missing is handlebar grips.

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    That's looking good... looking forward to reading your thoughts on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepimpmessiah View Post
    That's looking good... looking forward to reading your thoughts on it.
    I ain't telling you nothing..........you could meet me at Scolty Hill and try it for yourself though .

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    Another wet dream for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdr08 View Post
    I ain't telling you nothing..........you could meet me at Scolty Hill and try it for yourself though .
    report???

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril_88 View Post
    report???
    Nothing to report here. The bikes almost ready but I need to find a couple of 0.5mm shims for the rear sprocket.

    Here's the finished weight:
    Anyone got a Helius Pinion AM yet?-am-pinion-weight.jpg

    Hopefully I'll get out for a pedal this weekend .

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    Very respectable weight for a bike that should take a beating and get you back to the top easily.

    Eric

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    I was thinking "thats light" when thinking of my fight with my AM to get it below 31.5lb but then I saw no adjustable post yet...looks nice and clean, I like it alot. Too heavy for me but I like it alot.
    Aka chainline...

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    Be carefull on some Pinion gear box there is a mistake on lock ring (3) assembly, on some exemple this lock ring is in the wrong way.

    on the pictire below the lock ring is in the wrong side


    on this picture you can see the difference


    the results is that the lock ring make a lot of friction on the arm of the crank, you have just to follow the manual to make the correction and put it correctly.

    On this forum the green ano is in this case, and also th ion 18, i receive both frame and it's the case for both, verify it before your first ride ;-).
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril_88 View Post
    Be carefull on some Pinion gear box there is a mistake on lock ring (3) assembly, on some exemple this lock ring is in the wrong way.
    On this forum the green ano is in this case, and also th ion 18, i receive both frame and it's the case for both, verify it before your first ride ;-).
    Thanks for the information. That'll explain the problem I've got with mine but before I could even complain I had an email from Dipper telling me that the tool and parts were in the post. Here's hoping they arrive soon .
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_pilot View Post
    I was thinking "thats light" when thinking of my fight with my AM to get it below 31.5lb but then I saw no adjustable post yet...looks nice and clean, I like it alot. Too heavy for me but I like it alot.
    Yeah I haven't bothered fitting my adjustable post yet, I just wanted to see how light I could get it with what I had lying around the garage and I don't think it's a bad weight considering my other AM ended up on the wrong side of 34lb once I fitted the Hammerschmidt. The weight is ideal for it's intended purpose (Gravity Enduro) and I have my AC for trail duties.

    I don't think it would be too hard to get the bike down to 32lb with lighter tyres and swapping my heavy V2's for Formula The One's or RO brakes but it would be a struggle to go any lighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdr08 View Post
    Mine arrived on Friday and needs a couple of bits to finish but here's the progress so far ...
    sdr08,

    what really tasty build-up that black anodized AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdr08 View Post
    Yeah I haven't bothered fitting my adjustable post yet, I just wanted to see how light I could get it with what I had lying around the garage and I don't think it's a bad weight considering my other AM ended up on the wrong side of 34lb once I fitted the Hammerschmidt. The weight is ideal for it's intended purpose (Gravity Enduro) and I have my AC for trail duties.

    I don't think it would be too hard to get the bike down to 32lb with lighter tyres and swapping my heavy V2's for Formula The One's or RO brakes but it would be a struggle to go any lighter.
    I worked out a build for Dipper that was 32lb, so it is possible. I have my AC/AM29 for Gravity Enduro but certainly the Pro's I was doing in Italy it was tough with the AM at 31.5lbs. which was my final HS equipped weight. I still like the HS alot but I dont think i can take the 2lb hit over my 1x10 setup. I use mine for everything so it has to be light but strong. I'm happy with 28lb.

    I'll either fit a 28t front cog to my crank or go Sram XX1 I think.

    Lots of advantages to the Pinion I acknowledge though.
    Aka chainline...

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    Come on people - where are the ride reports?

    I'm thinking that weight is really positive - I think my AC Rohloff is right around there so an AC Pinion could easily com in at the same weight. I'm thinking DT rear singlespeed hub now, which can be converted to 12mm.
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    Totally agree Simon

    And with the Pinion compared to the Rohloff, the weight is low and in the centre of the bike, whole lotta yeah ha on that...

    Ride reports peeps, come on now!


    Quote Originally Posted by nicolai-uk View Post
    Come on people - where are the ride reports?

    I'm thinking that weight is really positive - I think my AC Rohloff is right around there so an AC Pinion could easily com in at the same weight. I'm thinking DT rear singlespeed hub now, which can be converted to 12mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolai-uk View Post
    Come on people - where are the ride reports?.
    We're all waiting on a lock-nut tool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdr08 View Post
    We're all waiting on a lock-nut tool!

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