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    College Student Looking for a Bike

    Hello everyone!

    I am completely new to the bike scene and am in the market to buy a new bike. The school that I goto is located on a hill and it pretty much snows here for 5 months. I would really appreciate if you guys could help me make a decision!

    Please note that I understand that I should ride a bike first and buy it but there are NO stores within 25 miles of this place. From my research I have come down to the following three bikes :

    2010 GT Aggressor http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...0_20000_400308

    2010 GT Outpost
    http://www.performancebike.com/bikes..._1078729_-1___

    2010 GT Avalanche
    http://www.performancebike.com/bikes..._1078378_-1___

    Novara Portal BIke

    http://www.rei.com/product/788084

    Also since i will be riding this during the winter could you please suggest some attachments I should get? Like fenders?

    I will be using the bike for commute everyday and also trail biking often.

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    how much do you want to spend??

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    Around $400

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    Do yourself a favor, stay away from suspension at that pricepoint. Check out this thing.

    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/dawes/deadeye.htm

    And for winter riding, you want full coverage fenders, and lights front and rear. http://ecom1.planetbike.com/7029.html

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    Is there a reason why you guys suggested the above bikes?

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    How tall are you??

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    5'10" / 170 pounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Droidbee
    Is there a reason why you guys suggested the above bikes?
    Better frame better parts if you ride alot like I do you will find you will go through parts. Also on ebay they have some nice 09 bikes I think you should take a M

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    Be warned salt and sand from the snow will kill your bike.

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    The most expensive parts of a bike are:

    Frame
    Fork
    Cranks
    Wheels

    At $400, there are going to be some corners cut. For example, a bike with gears and front suspension at that price is going to have crappy cranks. And if you ride at least a little, you will kill crappy cranks, and that becomes expensive, and now you have spent $600 instead of $400. Also, a cheap suspension fork is more expensive than a decent rigid fork, weighs a lot more, and doesn't necessarily perform that well.

    Although the deadeye is a rigid single speed, it has a quality parts spec that can keep you riding for a least several seasons and wont melt after the first winter. And while you are doing this riding, you can start thinking about what it is you like and don't like about the bike you have.

    Where are you going to school?

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    I goto Colgate in Upstate NY.

    Jpeters - I had never heard of Giant bikes but I will take a look thanks! Salt and sand are going to do damage to the tyres?

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    I would try to save just a little more cash if you could. Like fotu said the parts will go fast if you use it alot and your are 25 miles from the closest bike store. But that 2010 giant yukon at tree fort bikes is not bad for 450 I would go with that and tree fort is a great store. the parts are better than all of the others I looked at in your price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Droidbee
    I goto Colgate in Upstate NY.

    Jpeters - I had never heard of Giant bikes but I will take a look thanks! Salt and sand are going to do damage to the tyres?
    Nope the gears bearings and chain

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    So you are saying http://www.treefortbikes.com/#navbar...22355527___823 is better than http://www.performancebike.com/bikes..._1078729_-1___ ?

    I am a complete newbie so I am just trying to understand whats better! How does the salt affect the gears and chain?

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    salt and sand will kill your drive train. And if you have suspension, it will kill that too. It makes everything rust faster.

    Again there are four main things to look for on a bike:

    Frame: its gotta fit you
    Fork: depends on what you want, suspension sucks at $400
    Cranks: name brand with good quality removable gears
    Wheels: double walled rims, disc compatability is a plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Droidbee
    So you are saying http://www.treefortbikes.com/#navbar...22355527___823 is better than http://www.performancebike.com/bikes..._1078729_-1___ ?

    I am a complete newbie so I am just trying to understand whats better! How does the salt affect the gears and chain?
    Well first the parts on the Giant are better than all of the others you mentioned and second tree fort price matches.
    The salt will eat all of the metal and take all of the oil off and it makes everything rust. I live in Germany and we got lots of snow this year and everyone rides bikes. My friends at the bike store told me the salt was destroying the bikes.

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    Read the list of parts specs on the websites. If it says "SR Suntour" for either the cranks or forks, it is bad.

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    Fotu did you look at the giant Yukon at tree fort not bas spec for 450 first bike
    http://www.treefortbikes.com/#navbar...22355527___823

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    I mean, the Yukon is fine. It will get you out there and fun will be had. It is nice that it has a fork, gears and disc brakes. But those cranks suck. There is always a trade off. Just offering another opinion, and what I would look for. But I am not an expert.

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    Yeah about as good as Deore or no ? I rode a set of Deore for like 4000 miles

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    That yukon is speced with lowest end sram. Deore is definitely a better crank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotu
    That yukon is speced with lowest end sram. Deore is definitely a better crank.
    Ah ok

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    Yeah, that Yukon looks like a nice first bike, and I wouldn't mind riding it as a beater. Giant is one of the largest bike manufacturers in the world (I wouldn't be surprised if that REI brand bike was made by giant).

    However... I didn't think Giant allowed their bikes to be sold online, and I don't see a way on the treefort page to actually buy it - the "add to cart" button is nowhere to be found.

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    Salt and sand will only kill a bike if you never take care of it. Even an entry level bike will last a long time if properly cared for. That means at minimum, cleaning it and lubing the chain periodically.

    And SR Suntour components are not "bad." They're not high end by any means, but at the $400 price point, you won't find much else. For many people, they are perfectly adequate.

    Pretty sure you can't buy that Giant off the web.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joules
    Yeah, that Yukon looks like a nice first bike, and I wouldn't mind riding it as a beater. Giant is one of the largest bike manufacturers in the world (I wouldn't be surprised if that REI brand bike was made by giant).

    However... I didn't think Giant allowed their bikes to be sold online, and I don't see a way on the treefort page to actually buy it - the "add to cart" button is nowhere to be found.
    Yeah true forgot about that. People sell Giant bikes on ebay here in Germany all of the time

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    Hello Colgate!

    My brother was class of '87 and he stroked on the Crew.

    Not me I went South

    Anyway,

    Single speed and rigid is great for a first bike. Maybe a 29er. Single-speed is also cool on the urban college scene as is fixed-gear. That's if you want style. Heck, we're not even very urban here (William and Mary) and it is still the style.

    As far as that goes, you have had some good advice from others about caring for your bike. Here's some more advice: Don't leave it outside all the time! On our campus kids come to school, put them in a bike rack, and they rust away.

    Maybe not new in your price range, but Surly Pugsley or Karate Monkeys go great in the snow and some of them show up on ebay from time to time.
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    They usually use a lot of salt here anyway - only when it snows like crazy. I guess I wont be riding my bike then.

    Since Giants dont sell online - thats out of the question.

    With the hills - I dont know if I want a single speed/fixed gear. Back to square one.

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    Does colgate still have a cycling team? If so, I would try to hook up with them. Might be able to get some better advice, maybe even a nice used bike. Also, they can show you around, get you to the trails. You know, friends and stuff.

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    I dont they are around anymore.

    I guess I will just go for the Outpost. It is better than Agressor and I think it will be sufficient for my needs.

    Can you guys suggest what fender to get for the Outpost for winter?

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    Droidbee Hi bro so you will get the Gt cool you will need to order some other things. I would make sure you order some good chain lube, get some simple green to degrease and clean the chain also get some denatured alcohol to clean the disk brakes. What ever you do DONT get lube or oil on the disks it will ruin the pads. I would also get a small air pump and an extra tube. Make sure when you hose the bike down after every messy ride that you dont spray with high pressure at the any of the bearings like the middle of the wheels or the crank. You can see thousands of vids in the web about caring for your bike. Just learn to care and work on your bike and it will last a long time. Good luck and welcome to mountain biking. Ps I know I am answering you at funny times I live in Germany One more thing check out bikerader.com it is a great web site they have reviews on everything for example chain lube and here are some fenders http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/S...?Search=fender

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    Hey bro look for one of these better parts plus you can get package deals. I think shipping to the us is like 40 dollars.

    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...egoryId_165499

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    I actually found a store an hour away and I think I am going over there!

    Thanks for all the info jpeters!

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    This is probably a dumb question but when you go buy a bike do you get the one on the floor or do they assemble a new one for you?

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    Also I am going to the store that provides bikes from http://www.*****onnes.com/bikes/

    Let me know if your suggestions change!

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    You can get the one off the floor if you need a bike today . You can get better deals on a older model like a 2010 or something or a ex demo.

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    If you get a bike with a suntour fork only go for the Epicon. You can wheel and deal with them if you need my number I can help you.

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    Tree fort bikes should be bookmarked they can sometimes have some great prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illini
    Tree fort bikes should be bookmarked they can sometimes have some great prices.
    Always they will match any price

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    If you order small stuff online, I recommend a US website. I don't think it is going to be cost effective to order fenders from Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Droidbee
    have fun with it

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    Cool man have fun!! How much did it cost? You will love mountain biking it is the best sport in the world just remember to care for it and it will last. Also if you need any help Droidbee with upgrades maintenance and stuff like that PM me I can help. One more thing bikes are not hard to repair at first maby a little bit not so bad. Hopefully you will get totally obsessed like the wrest of us and do the sport for life lol. Well let me know about your first ride how you like it. Dont listen to all of the other guys about the parts here in Germany most people run low end parts and they are fine just make sure to maintain the bike and it will last. It is a good first bike because if you like the sport you can upgrade if not you did'nt lose to much. Its funny I see people with money get these 2000 euro bikes and they sit in the garage lol because they thought it was easy. So ride it enjoy it and welcome to the sport !!!

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