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    Pending NJ Quick-Release Law - Don't just sit there and be all talk and no action!

    Don’t just sit there!

    In about the time it takes for you to throw your bike on the car to go to a ride, you can email a very important message to your Senator regarding the pending bill that would make it illegal for all bike shops in NJ to sell bikes with quick-release wheels! Stop and think about your local bike shop. Would you really like to see it driven out of business because of this absolutely senseless pending legislation? Do you really want to drive to NY or PA the next time your bottom-bracket needs an overhaul, because your local bike shop is no longer in business?
    No? Then do something! In about 5 minutes or less, you can email your Senator your thoughts about this pending bill. Here’s how:


    Step 1: Find the name of your municipality here:
    http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/distric...cipalities.asp

    Click once on the name of your town. This click will direct you to the appropriate District Number.
    Step 2: Click on the District Number for your municipality.
    Step 3: Click once on your Senator’s name. That will take you to your Senator’s main info page.
    Step 4: Click on the Contact Your Legislator(s) link found on your Senator’s info page.
    Step 5: Click on the “Select Your Representative(s)” button.
    Step 6: Fill out the form, and COPY and PASTE the letter below (scroll down to see the whole letter) into the blank “Message” field. (Improvise letter as you feel appropriate.)
    Step 7: Click on the “Submit Email” button on the bottom of the page.

    That’s it! Now you can enjoy cycling with a good conscience!

    Copy this Letter (below):
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    Dear Senator:

    As a cycling enthusiast living in New Jersey, I urge you to reject New Jersey Senate Bill No. 2837.

    New Jersey Senate Bill No. 2837, presently in front of the Senate Commerce Committee, would make it illegal to sell any bicycle -including full-sized adult bicycles - with quick release wheels. This bill was originally drafted to target children’s bicycles; however, under a revision made last Fall, it now includes all bicycles. Thus, this bill is inaccurately being promoted as affecting only children's bicycles. If this bill is passed, it will have an immediate, significant, and adverse impact on both New Jersey residents who enjoy cycling as part of a healthy lifestyle, but also on New Jersey Bicycle Dealers and retailers who provide an important service to New Jersey residents. Simply put, the passing of this bill would devastate the retail bicycle industry in New Jersey.

    The quick-release system used on bicycles today has been in use for over 50 years. Many bikes with quick-release wheels also come with redundant retention, and a properly used quick-release wheel is safer than a bicycle with a bolted axle.

    Because none of the bicycles currently available on the market could meet the standard in Senate Bill 2837, it would IMMEDIATELY shut down the bicycle retail business in New Jersey. S-2837 requires a quick-release retention system on adult bikes that works automatically and always retains the wheel. No bicycle available in the market meets this impossible standard. Thus, this bill would make it illegal to sell bicycles in New Jersey, and every bicycle dealer in New Jersey would lose important revenue from bike sales, and be forced to close its doors.

    Senate Bill No. 2837 is ill advised because:

     It is not directed only at Children's bikes; it affects the sale of all bicycles
     It will shut down the New Jersey Bicycle business;
     It will force NJ residents to purchase new bicycles from dealers located in New York, Pennsylvania, or Maryland.
     It will be pre-empted by Federal Law that already regulates bicycles quick releases.

    I urge you to reject S-2837 should this bill come before you for a vote.

    Sincerely,

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    Please don't use the above form letter, or at least edit it to be more accurate:

    1.The bill will not force the shutdown of the bicycle industry, it will force bicycle dealers to use bolt on skewers. Bicycle shops could even pass the extra $10 per bike on to the consumer.
    2. Secondary retention devices do exist they just aren't widely available. link here Implications of a proprietary system aside.

    Also, I'm curious what study you have that shows properly used QRs are safer than a properly used "bolted axle." You may have a valid argument that it's easier to achieve the proper tension, but again where is your source?

    I agree that the bill is stupid, and I may make a phone call to my senator, but please don't spread misinformation. It will just decrease the credibility of cyclists in general.

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    RE: Please don't use...

    Clutch,

    On June 18th, I received an email from Marty’s Reliable Cycle which alerted me to this pending bill. In the email was the following information penned by Bob Burns, Trek Bicycle Corporation’s Legal Counsel. I borrowed much of the information from Bob Burns (shown below) to construct the “Dear Senator” letter I posted above. Please note: I do not work for a NJ bike shop. I am not affiliated with a bike shop at all. I don’t have any personal financial incentive in the outcome of this bill. I just think it should not pass. I am a cycling enthusiast who has lived in New Jersey for nearly 20 years.

    Language penned by Bob Burns, Trek Bicycle Corporation:

    TALKING POINTS:
    - New Jersey Assembly Bill No. 2686 would make it illegal to sell any bicycle -including ADULT bicycles - with current quick releases;
    - It is wrongly promoted as being directed only to children's bicycles;
    - This will have an immediate, significant, adverse impact on:
    -New Jersey Bicycle consumers;
    -New Jersey Bicycle dealers.
    -None of the bicycles currently on the market could meet the standard in Assembly Bill 2686;
    -This would IMMEDIATELY shut down the bicycle retail business in New Jersey;
    -The Bill would require a quick release retention system - on adult bikes -- that: Works AUTOMATICALLY, ALWAYS retains the wheel.

    - There is no commercially available system that meets this impossible standard;
    - The Quick Release has been in use for over 50 years;
    - On today's commercial bicycles, bikes with Quick Releases also come with redundant retention;
    - A properly used Quick Release is SAFER than a bicycle with a bolted axle;
    - Assembly Bill 2686 is ill advised because:
    It is not directed only at Children's bikes;
    a. It will shut down the New Jersey Bicycle business;
    b. It will be pre-empted by Federal Law that already regulates bicycles quick releases.

    Finally, perhaps anyone who questions what impact the passing of this bill might have on a local bike shop ought to discuss it with your local bike shop. Ask them if they think they can still be profitable if they have to manually modify each wheel of nearly every bike they sell to outfit it with a bolt on axle. I somehow don't think a bike shop could remain competitive and profitable if they had to go through the extra labor and time to do this.

    Any bike shop owners out there? What do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedplay
    Finally, perhaps anyone who questions what impact the passing of this bill might have on a local bike shop ought to discuss it with your local bike shop. Ask them if they think they can still be profitable if they have to manually modify each wheel of nearly every bike they sell to outfit it with a bolt on axle. I somehow don't think a bike shop could remain competitive and profitable if they had to go through the extra labor and time to do this.

    Any bike shop owners out there? What do you guys think?
    There is a difference between a bolt-on axle and a bolt-on skewer. Changing to a bolt-on axle will require disassembly of the the hub and replacement of the hollow axle with a solid one. (not even possible on all hubs) Now, using a bolt-on skewer will require the bike shop to unscrew the non lever side of the QR, remove the QR, then slide the bolt on skewer through the hub, screw a nut on the other side and then finally tighten with a wrench. Total time roughly 2 minutes per wheel.

    Again I don't want a nanny law like this to pass either, but it's not as big of a deal as everyone is making it out to be. You wouldn't happen to have Bob Burns' email address would you? I'd like to read his QR study.

    edited for clarity (see bold)
    Last edited by Clutch; 07-03-2007 at 07:21 AM.

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    I don't have a contact email for Bob Burns of Trek Bicycle.

    The League of American Bicyclists has provided a similar link for interested cyclists to vent their concerns over this pending bill.

    http://capwiz.com/lab/issues/alert/?alertid=9918251

    Here's an excerpt of the language they provide:

    There is no compelling evidence that suggests that the failure of QR wheels is an immediate and urgent issue – there is no sudden surge in crashes, no recent fatality or serious injury that is prompting the legislation. QR wheels have been in use for 50 years – nothing new or current has changed to suggest a need for this draconian legislation.
    There are NO bicycles on the market that currently meet the standards set out in the legislation. New Jersey retailers would, therefore, be unable to sell any bicycles.

    The Consumer Product Safety Commission already regulates QR wheels and other bicycle components. This legislation will be pre-empted by Federal law.

    The League opposes this legislation and encourages League members and all cyclists in New Jersey to write to their State Senators to express their opposition.

    I have emailed the sponsor of the bill, Paul Moriarty, asking him why the bill was amended to include all wheels, and not just wheels 20" or smaller. So far, I have not received a reply.

    I too would like to know a bit more about the "Children riding bicycles with quick release wheels [who] have been involved in over 100 accidents" that the bill claims. Over 100 accidents? Over what span of time? What was deemed the cause of the accident?

    Personally, I think driving on Route 80 is monumentally and statistically more dangerous than riding a bicycle with a quick release wheel.

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    "This would IMMEDIATELY shut down the bicycle retail business in New Jersey"

    sounds a bit "chicken little". couldn't the shops sell quick release levers and offer to install them for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTM
    "This would IMMEDIATELY shut down the bicycle retail business in New Jersey"

    sounds a bit "chicken little". couldn't the shops sell quick release levers and offer to install them for you?

    I thought the law is try to ban quick release levers, so no I don't think they can sell you an aftermarket one and bolt it on as it defeats the point (yes/no)?

    I can sorta see why twice i've seen the tires off a quick release bike fall off on a highway while the bike was on a rack. For me I take my tires off and puttem in the trunk.

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    What a clusterfk. Thank GOD I moved away from there!

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    Sheesh what a bunch of horse pooh, Whats next, will my 20mm axle be dangerous due to the user has to tighten bolts?

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    I'll just go out of state to get a bike if this passes. The state can lose out on the tax revenue. Or at least most of it (you're supposed to pay the difference if the sales tax where you buy it is less than NJ's).
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    Man I thought livin in NJ sucked 10 years ago. I'm glad to see you pushing the limits on stupidity still. Stellar performance for the rest of the country. I guess all my relative can come visit me. I won't be back,ever!

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    I love sitting back and watching the hysteria.

    People should read which bikes are affected by this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonfly
    I thought the law is try to ban quick release levers, so no I don't think they can sell you an aftermarket one and bolt it on as it defeats the point (yes/no)?
    not sure if the law bans quick release levers or the sale of bikes with QR levers installed. either way, I'm not following this. the whole thing is ridiculous and will never impact us anyway.

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    Jamis and Van Dessel

    I know Jamis is in NJ and I think Van Dessel as well. If this law ever gets passed wouldnt you think these companies would speak up since its going to effect them, the manufacturers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    I love sitting back and watching the hysteria.

    People should read which bikes are affected by this.
    COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS

    At the sponsor's request, the committee amended the bill to make the sale of any type of bicycle equipped with a quick release wheel an unlawful practice, unless:

    · the bicycle is equipped with both, a primary and secondary retention device, and

    · the secondary retention device meets certain standards designed to prevent the accidental separation of the wheel from the bicycle fork.

    Under the amendments, the sale of a bicycle with a front wheel diameter of 20 inches or less is always an unlawful practice, unless it is a specialty adult bicycle which meets the above specifications.

    The amendments also changed the definition of a “quick release wheel” to mean any bicycle front wheel which does not require the use of any tools for wheel removal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    I love sitting back and watching the hysteria.

    People should read which bikes are affected by this.
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    See you later NJ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    I love sitting back and watching the hysteria.

    People should read which bikes are affected by this.

    Did read it -- The earlier version of the bill (prior to entering the assembly) was for bikes with wheels under 20 inches. HOWEVER, the assembly changed the bill to include all bicycles.

    Hopefully it was just an ignorant rephrasing of the bill, but I wouldn't put it past our Nanny State of NJ to try to protect everyone from themselves. You know, let government be our savior and all.

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    ****update On Qr Ban Monday July 8,2007*****

    this is the latest News article on the QR ban pending in NJ.

    http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...=2007707090320
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    Figures that we're going to be the ones to suffer because of 8 incidents in California.
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    Make sure to point out to your state congressperson how the state will lose tax revenue from bike sales, shop employees' income taxes, etc as people start buying their bikes out of state and the NJ bike shops fold up. All this so they can protect us from the scourge of qr wheel accidents. How many of those happened in NJ again? Heck, how many have happened, period? I read the APP article and it talked about brain injuries, and I wonder if a properly sized/adjusted helmet was being worn correctly at the time of the accident. I see kids from time to time with their helmets on backwards, sideways or just so big it hangs off their head sideways. That seems like a much bigger problem to me than QR wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crash_in_nj
    Make sure to point out to your state congressperson how the state will lose tax revenue from bike sales, shop employees' income taxes, etc as people start buying their bikes out of state and the NJ bike shops fold up.
    OK I'm gonna stop replying to this thread. I feel I've made my point and people are just ignoring it. This law will not affect bike shops at all.

    I'll leave with one suggestion. The law would be better if it required bike shops to offer bolt-on skewers, but allowed the shop to sell the QR if the customer signs a release. This way the customer gets more options and no one ends up getting a QR without knowing what it is.

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    Wrong Bill Number

    If any of you are going to write this letter as directed below, you may want to change the bill title/number before sending. The bill named below, NJ Senate Bill No. 2837 is actually about where clothing donations bins can be placed in NJ. http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2004/Bi...00/2837_I1.HTM

    The bill about the bicycle quick - release pohibition is actually an NJ Assembly Bill (different from the Senate) and it's number is NJ Assembly Bill No. 2686:
    http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2006/Bi...00/2686_R2.HTM

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    corruption and NJ

    I just heard (haven't confirmed yet tho) that the legislator introducing this law is the patent holder for the "readily available technology" Can anyone confirm this?

    surely just a coincidence! NJ ain't corrupt...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch
    OK I'm gonna stop replying to this thread. I feel I've made my point and people are just ignoring it. This law will not affect bike shops at all.

    I'll leave with one suggestion. The law would be better if it required bike shops to offer bolt-on skewers, but allowed the shop to sell the QR if the customer signs a release. This way the customer gets more options and no one ends up getting a QR without knowing what it is.

    Clutch,

    My understanding is that the movement for this stems from some people that have been "launched" (and injured severely in some cases) by incorrectly applied QR's, and that the bikes were the bargain variety from big-box stores. So, in essence I agree with your second point: this really comes down to a "training issue" and I think a fairly sensible compromise would be that a simple sign-off form be required that stated "I've been instructed on the safe usage of my quick release, etc.". The LBS and big box stores would by law then be forced to instruct the customer on how to use this device. LBS's do it now, big boxes probably do not.

    In addition, its reported that the big box stores do not assemble a bike correctly in many cases. I can envision that this might be true, but I have no substantiation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch2
    I just heard (haven't confirmed yet tho) that the legislator introducing this law is the patent holder for the "readily available technology" Can anyone confirm this?

    surely just a coincidence! NJ ain't corrupt...

    -Sasquatch2

    Sasquatch,

    There indeed is another system called the Montaque CLIX system which is available. Its pretty cool actually. However, its proprietary and patented... meaning this company would be required to supply the entire bike industry (well, NJ for starters at least) with all QR's. If there's a production problem (not uncommon) with Montague, there are no other suppliers of QR's.

    On the other hands skewers work and are ubiquitous.

    Moriarty was the original sponsor of the bill. Montague is the last name of the inventor/owner of CLIX. I know of no ties between the two (but it would be newsworthy if there are any ties).

    I'm going to see a bike-industry friend tonight so I'll ask him about his thoughts on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt
    What a clusterfk. Thank GOD I moved away from there!
    If you continue to brag, I will continue to Jersey VT.

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    according to the bill at http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2006/Bi...00/2686_R2.HTM

    Quote Originally Posted by Para. 2a
    It shall be an unlawful practice for any person to sell a bicycle intended for use by children with a front wheel diameter of 20 inches or less, which is equipped with a quick release wheel , exclusive of specialty adult bicycles .
    This portion of the act would exclude all bicycles with a front wheel larger than 20" OR if intended user is an adult. It also excludes adult specialtiy bikes from the act, but does not define what is considered a specialty adult bicycle, nor does it have a referance to that defination in any other statute, law, or act.

    Quote Originally Posted by Para. 2b(1)
    "quick release wheel" means 2[a] any bicycle front2 wheel which does not require the use of any tools 2[to be removed from the bicycle.
    This mean bolt on skewers will be acceptable under the new act.

    Quote Originally Posted by Para. 2c(1)
    It shall be an unlawful practice for any person to sell a bicycle which is equipped with a quick release wheel if:

    Para. 2c(1)(a) - the front wheel diameter is greater than 20 inches; or

    Para. 2c(1)(b) - it is a specialty adult bicycle with a front wheel diameter of 20 inches or less.
    This portion actually contradicts Para. 2(a) by now making all bicycles with a front wheel diameter greater than 20" or a speciality adult bicycle with a front wheel diameter of 20" or less unlawful to sell.

    Remember that both paragraphs, despite their contradictary wording only make it unlawful to sell a bicycle that is equipt with QR's. If the bicycle shop replaces the QR's with some inexpensive bolt on skewers they would be within the provisions of this act. Nowhere in the act does it say that posession of QR's is illegal, nor does it say that bike shops can not supply QR's with the bikes they sell (in the box or with the owner's manual).

    I paid $10 for the bolt on SS skewers that are on my commuter bike, and that is full retail. Figure that most retail prices are twice that of wholesale, that is only a $5 increase in bicycle price the shop will pass onto the consumer. Who would be willing to drive to PA or NY to save $5 on the price of their bike? The bike shop could then toss in the factory QR's into the owner's manual kit with a tag telling them how they are properly used.

    The act will do little to the LBS if they just read the law and comply to the provisions within. What it will do is show to the idiots out there that bicycling is an inhearantly dangerous activity and should be done with that in mind, reguardless if they use bolt-on or QR axles. Failure to properly fit, use, and maintain your bicycle and safety equipment can result in injury or death.

    It is ultimately the consumer's and/or parent's fault these injuries happen. I have been agressively riding bikes for over 20 years, and at NO time have I had a major part of my bicycle just fall off. All crashes I have lived through were self induced and my bicycle remained together. This is because either my father, myself, or my LBS took the few minutes to go over my bicycle and ensure its proper fit, use, and maintanance.

    EDIT:
    At NO time do I support this act. I am not a NJ resident and it does not effect me in the least. Despite this, I still feel that government has no reason to induce another law that takes the responsibility away from the parents of children that were hurt in ANOTHER state. The judge ruled in favor of Walmart and the supplier of their bicycles in the case in Marin County because it was not the retailer's fault the parents are to dumb or lazy to care properly for their children.

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    Man this bill is like the energizer bunny two years later and it's still going and going.....

    At least it's back to only applying to 20" wheels or less.

    http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bills/B...llNumber=A1251

    Quote Originally Posted by njleg.state.nj.us
    AN ACT regulating the sale of certain bicycles with quick release wheels and supplementing P.L.1960, c.39 (C.56:8-1 et seq.).

    BE IT ENACTED by the Senate and General Assembly of the State of New Jersey:

    1. The Legislature hereby finds and declares that:
    Children riding bicycles with quick release wheels have been involved in accidents; and
    The danger to children caused by bicycles with quick release wheels is unnecessary in light of the fact that alternatives exist.
    It is, therefore, altogether fitting and proper that the State regulate the sale of bicycles with quick release wheels for use by children.

    2. a. It shall be an unlawful practice for any person to sell a bicycle with a front wheel diameter of 20 inches or less, which is equipped with a quick release wheel, exclusive of specialty adult bicycles.
    b. For the purposes of P.L. , c. (C. ) (pending before the Legislature as this bill), "quick release wheel" means any bicycle front wheel which does not require the use of any tools for wheel removal.
    1c. Nothing contained in this section shall be construed to apply to the sale of a bicycle equipped with a quick release wheel by an individual, provided the sale is an isolated or occasional sale of a bicycle by a person who is not regularly engaged in the business of making retail sales of such bicycles and the bicycle was obtained by the person making the sale, through purchase or otherwise, for the person’s own use or the use of someone in the person’s family.1

    3. This act shall take effect on the first day of the seventh month after enactment.

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    It should say that kids under a age. Not rim size....
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    well, you know what they say about rim size...

    our bike group was discussing this a while back- a better law would be to ban big box stores from selling cheap crap that's been assembled by stoned stock boys.
    Feel the Bern!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch2
    well, you know what they say about rim size...

    our bike group was discussing this a while back- a better law would be to ban big box stores from selling cheap crap that's been assembled by stoned stock boys.


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    i hate this state, like we dont have better things to do then to pass bills against axles that go on bicycles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawne32
    i hate this state, like we dont have better things to do then to pass bills against axles that go on bicycles
    Right --- like how about passing bills that require teenage drivers to display special decals on their cars, announcing to the entire world that they are a new driver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedplay
    Right --- like how about passing bills that require teenage drivers to display special decals on their cars, announcing to the entire world that they are a new driver?
    \No really?

    That is some funny stuff, talk about waist of tax's. To much Fat need to start cutting Dumb crap like that out...
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    Kyleigh's Law Mandates Decal on Teen Drivers' Cars
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    CHESTER — By signing Kyleigh's Law on Wednesday, April 15, Gov. Jon Corzine made New Jersey the first state in the nation to have a teen driver decal law. Named in honor of 16-year-old Kyleigh D'Alessio, the law requires the use of an identifier on vehicles driven by teens holding a permit or provisional license.

    http://www.capemaycountyherald.com/a...ivers039+cars#

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    government: less is more.

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    What about these? Nuke Proof spin on skewers? I have them on my tri bike. Do I have to worry about being pulled over if I'm racing in New Jersey?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch
    Man this bill is like the energizer bunny two years later and it's still going and going.....

    At least it's back to only applying to 20" wheels or less.
    Thats the way I'm reading it, but there's lots of talk of it being ammended. Nobody is showing the ammended version though.
    Probably just a way to raise more revenue, "We'll let it pass there's just a $20 surcharge to go along with it" Anyone notice more Troopers on Rt. 287?
    It's ALWAYS funny when it happens to somebody else
    Lookie at what I found- http://www.f88me.com check it out, now

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    welcome 2 russia

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