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    NYC 5-Boro Ride

    Its coming up quick (5/6). Who's going this year?

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    My wife and I will be there riding our Ventana El Conquistador tandem. The bike is candy apple red if you happen to see us. I've got to find some semi slicks or road tires for the beast. Can't wait and hope the weather holds out.
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    I'll be on my new road bike

    So I will just blend in with the other 30,000 riders. I'll probably have my MTBR shirt if it is warm.

    I think a red Ventana tandam will stand out a bit more.

    Enjoy.

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    42 miles? No problem !! You want city slicks I suggest Continental
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    anyone doing the Tour de Franklin this weekend? I'm planning on it, as long as the weather holds. I'm tough, but not quite that tough
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    CARNAGE is the key word for that 5 Boros tour. I did it for 4 yrs in a row and the first year, some guy took a massive heart attack and died. the next year some kid took a header into a concrete divider, another year, some lady broke her hip and ankle. It's a HUGE bunch of people that know nothing about riding in packs and panic when braking. Oh yeah don't forget about them potholes and all the walking that you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Bert
    CARNAGE is the key word for that 5 Boros tour. I did it for 4 yrs in a row and the first year, some guy took a massive heart attack and died. the next year some kid took a header into a concrete divider, another year, some lady broke her hip and ankle. It's a HUGE bunch of people that know nothing about riding in packs and panic when braking. Oh yeah don't forget about them potholes and all the walking that you do.

    have a good time!

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    I'll second that!!! You have to know going in that with 30,000 peeps more than half probably get on their bike once a year when the 5boro comes around. Walking I don't know what your talkin about....I won't be walking for nothin.
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    I agree about the carnage. One year I saw a pedestrian randomnly punch a cyclist as he was trying to cross the street in Central Park. There are always some pretty bad accidents. I'll never forget overhearing a crashed roadie crying "look what you did to my bike!"

    There are so many riders the ride is no fun anymore. You have racers in a pace lines weaving in and out of families with toddlers.

    If you want to avoid the long walk at the beginning don't be a sheep and stay in the pack. Take another avenue uptown until you get ahead of the walkers and then rejoin the route.

    After I did the ride a few times I stopped going uptown altogether (and paying the fee) and took the Brooklyn Bridge and joined the ride there. Then you get to ride on the highway and cross over to Staten Island on The Verrazanno which is really nice ride in itself. I'd get back to NJ by going over the Bayonne Bridge.

    But it is a really a spectacular ride and you must do it at least once.

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    Last year some kid took a header onto a bridge they stopped the ride and had to get an ambulance to take him away, when I passed the scene there was a puddle of blood with a hand full of blood soaked napkins.

    I hear what you are saying about having racers weaving inbetween families. While riding to the ferry in Staten Island (when the tour was pretty much over) we were just going at a moderate pace all the way to the right when some guy in a full race uniform and a road bike and his wife in matching uniform and bike were coming up behind people and yelling at them to get out of their way. They went flying in between these two girls who were talking with inches to spare on each side.

    It's like all the idiot drivers in NY and NJ get on their bikes and act the same way as they do behind the wheel.

    Though, I still had fun last year and I can't wait to do it again.
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    Yawn......

    So many people taking so much time to say that something is not fun. Geez, kids, just stay home. I've done this for year and experienced it all and in the end, it is still a very good time. Of course, there are plenty of people (obviously) that will find a problem with anything.

    Nice job people.........

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    This will be my first year doing it and from what I've heard it will be a very good time. I think you should just go out and experience it for yourself and make the call based on your own expectations not someone else's
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    That's the spirit.......

    I had to laught at the poster that said someone had a heart attack. Crips, how many people had heart attacks in NYC that day? A kid crashed and bled. How many people got stabbed that day in NYC or just tripped and cut themselves?

    Yes, go out, stay alert and have fun. Life is too short to b!tch because something is not perfect. Perfect is oh so boring.........

    I think this is my 7th ride but I've lost count.

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    I'm there this will be my 3rd year ..

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    thought i post this too from last year


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev Bubba
    So many people taking so much time to say that something is not fun. Geez, kids, just stay home. I've done this for year and experienced it all and in the end, it is still a very good time. Of course, there are plenty of people (obviously) that will find a problem with anything.

    Nice job people.........
    Waaaaaaa someone had a discouraging opinion on my post. (I'd insert a crying icon face here.) So sorry, I had an opinion so different than yours and it happen to be negative.

    For ME, the novelty of the ride wore off quickly. Yea it was fun the first 2 times but with the amount of people that it attracted over the years, it didn't become fun for ME. That's just MY 2 cents, isn't these forums for that?

    I would rather ride in the dirt than in NYC.

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    They say no backpack or you'll be up for a shake down by the man?!!?? Is this true??
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    How many people are not driving into the city? I was thinking about take a ferry or train or something since I hate drivng in NYC. Do they give you any problems for bringing your bike on the train or ferry?

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    Easy way to join ride...

    I always find it easier to take the Staten Island ferry over in the morning, rather than at the end of the ride. Park at St. Georges and hop right on the boat and at the end of the day you are at your car for easy departure. Take a differrent avenue uptown (as someone else posted) and rejoin the crowd closer to Central Park. You will walk much less and eliminate the most congested part of the ride. Overall It is a lot ot fun, but you will see some crazy carnage, so be alert and stay as far upfront as you can.

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    Harrison and PATH or Staten Island Ferry

    I was going to park in Harrison and take PATH to the WTC Station but I am also considering driving to the Staten Island Ferry in St. George. I think this is the best choice since you avoid the long wait for the ferry at the end.

    I guess you could also take the ferry from Hoboken but I understand they charge extra for bikes. PATH usually has a limit of two bikes per car but seem to ignore this restriction on the day of this ride. I took PATH last time I did the ride and had no trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Bert
    I would rather ride in the dirt than in NYC.
    I'd rather ride in the dirt IN NYC.

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    hey Rev

    have fun at the ride, i know you will.

    here's more details on the rules for PATH and the ferries, in case anyone is interested:

    ferry: http://www.transalt.org/blueprint/ch...chapter9k.html

    PATH trains*: http://www.panynj.gov/CommutingTrave...tml/rules.html

    *you'd think they'd waive the "2 bikes per train" rule for this event, but I don't know if they will or not.

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    Rules are ignored, not waived for the day.

    Lets just say I have an "in." Its easier to "ignore" the rules for a day than try to change them. As long as no one abuses the system, no one is going to give you grief. When I took PATH there weren't that many other riders with or without bikes on Sunday so it was not a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev Bubba
    So many people taking so much time to say that something is not fun. Geez, kids, just stay home. I've done this for year and experienced it all and in the end, it is still a very good time. Of course, there are plenty of people (obviously) that will find a problem with anything.

    Nice job people.........
    I have no problem with the event. If you haven't done it I recommend it. After you have done it a few times it loses it's fun. The ride is more dangerous than riding in traffic. You have to be very alert. Much more so than on any other kind of ride.

    If you are doing this ride the main thing to do is BE CAREFUL!

    That's why I prefer mountainbiking. No traffic, no masses, no problem.

    I won't be staying home. I just won't be in NYC that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chainring
    I'll never forget overhearing a crashed roadie crying "look what you did to my bike!"



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    HA HA IDK why but I was thinking about that line all day during the tour.

    I didn't see any real bad accidents, I only saw like 2 Ambulances taking people away, I also fell though, not too bad. I recently got clipless pedals so I'm still getting good that them, after the astoria park rest stop, a kid in front of me fell for no apparent reason, I took one foot out of the pedals and stoped to avoid hitting/running him over, but I had too much momentum and didn't unclip my other foot and I went over, the kid apologized but I was really my fault for following too close. All and all, I had a lot of fun.

    Next year I'm gonna do what the others suggested, and join the tour once it started I'll wait a few blocks up and join when the leaders come by. We actually had to wait for parade floats to pass, I could see the start line from where I was and by time we got moving it was 10am.

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    I rode this event for the second time and this time around was a nightmare. Total slug fest!! People were walking/jogging past us. We arrived around 7:20 and waited for over two hours before the crowd began inching its way towards central park and upon arriving there, we walked most of our way through. We must have stopped to walk a good twelve times after that. And I'm not talking about a brief pause for traffic control or accidents, I mean a good loooooooong walk over bridges and complete stops in some areas. The festival at the end was the worst. Masses of people were crowded in the back waiting to get to the ferry and parking lots. No visible signs or easy exit points like they had in previous events. We waited for another two hours just to exit the park. It looked like a stopped up toilet - thousands of people were coming from all directions trying to sqeeze into a ridiculously narrow line. We finally got back on our bikes to ride the last stretch towards the parking lots only to run into more monster cluster jams. This year was an absolute disorganized mess - nothing like the last time I went ('05). The horror... the horror.

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    Yes, the biggest crowd I've ever been in....

    This was the 7th time I've done the ride and by far the worst. They sold out this year and capped the crowd at 32,000 which was just too many people. Everything you said about the walking was true.

    I guess its time to retire from the event. I had no crashes nor did I witness anything serious and in the end, it was fun and I'm glad I did it. I got to take a partner who never experienced the tour before and in the end, it is an experience much more than a true ride.

    (Yeah, what was with the walk in the park? I can never remember having to walk almost all the way through Central Park.)

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    Agreed on the crowd. My wife and I got there early but still waited an hour at the start before we moved and then did the stop and go all the way to Central Park. Luckily we stayed to the left side near the sidewalk so we were able to step out of line and enjoy a pretzel while we waited.

    We were far enough toward the front compared to some others that we were able to ride without too many stops after we got out of Central Park. However, it was dangerous due to some of the inexperienced and braindead riders. My shoulders were aching yesterday morning from piloting the tandem around the messes. We did see numerous accidents happen because of the unbelievable decisions being made. Some examples:

    1. We were riding along in the pack and a guy in the middle hits his brakes hard and stops, lays down his bike and answers his cell phone. We were cruising at 18 to 20mph when this happens. Luckily, no one was hurt but a couple of people went down.
    2. We're cruising on the FDR (I believe) and a guy near the center concrete divider decides he wants to go back and meet up with friends. He stops, turns around and starts riding against the group forcing some poor woman into the center divider - she crashed hard hitting her chest and chin on the way down.

    I was impressed with some of the riders, particularly the kids, who were riding rusted out Walmart bikes and riding the full thing. Very impressive.

    I'm glad we did it, but we won't be doing it again. There is a ride in the fall we did several years ago that has several distance options. It was much less crowded and a much more fun time.

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    I agree with you, there were too many people, I could have sworn I heard them say 42 thousand rider not 32, but I could be wrong. Also, not to defent to organizers too much but for some reason the Jewish day parade (or something like that) was on the same day and was taking place a few blocks over, that was the hold up before central park, they were bringing floats through and we had to stop every couple of mins. Also, one of the Staten Island Ferries broke. But I do believe that they should limit the number of people to avoid a lot of the issues. I got to the starting line at about 6:30 and I was still a bit back.

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    Yeah, after Sundays experience I will not return to bike NY in the future. What a mess. It was more like walk NY.

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    i did this for the first time this year with 2 of my good friends who are novice riders but it was their 2nd year for BNY. we decided on sat night that we were not going to venture downtown and instead start out around 30th or so. we got to where we wanted to start and we were surprised to see several other riders waiting for the same reason. we got on our bikes and headed up 6th toward the park at exactly 8:07 only to be held at the park for about 5 mins while the marshalls and the VIP group merged with us, this was the only time for the entire race that we were held up. we had some problems with some bikes, stopped for some pictures and stopped at only the second rest stop for an extended period of time and along the BQE and finished in just over 4 hours. as for people weaving in and out of the crowd, i must admit that the same rules that apply while driving your car should apply while riding, keep right except to pass. unfortunately some people have a problem with this while in their cars and on their bikes, take it with a grain of salt and just look back on how nice of a day it was! i only saw one real bad accident and that was right before the first rest stop while getting on the fdr other than that the day was great and i am looking forward to next year and will be doing the same thing at the start but perhaps parking a car at the ferry so the wait is minimal at the end.

    ps: the announcer at the ferry said multiple times that there were 42k riders this year.

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    I said this was my last tour but...........

    I think I've said that a couple of times.

    Working my way to the front like you did is really the best thing to do. The vast majority of riders (be it 32k or 42k) are not very serious about cycling so getting ahead of them is a good decision. One year we took another avenue north to Central Park and beat the crowds. I didn't know about another parade causing the hold up and as far as the ferry, we parked in Staten Island so we did not have to contend with that at the end although there was probably an hour delay at 7:30 AM when we tried to get on which put us to the back of the crowd. Definitely not a good place to be.

    Whatever the circumstances, I always seem to look back after a day and smile.

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    Adventure not Bike Tour

    I had a really great time from start to finish and I understand some of the issues and carnage.

    After boarding the ferry from Staten Island to Battery Park and being placed on the deck where all the cars are usually placed, which was a freezing wind tunnel I quickly realized I needed to adjust my attitude and consider the experience an adventure not necessarily a bike tour. It was proven throughout.

    We skipped the formal start and rode down the West Side Highway and joined just before Central Park (still freezing). After realizing a long delay at the entrance of Cent. Park we jumped back out and must of ended up on the Parade route that was mentioned prior. This provided a clear sailing / short ride into the park.

    I loved seeing all the different people of all ages, different bikes, and the different strategies people used to for the event. It was also fun ending up in different packs after stops.

    I even saw a young kid on a mountain bike doing a wheelie and changing gears the whole time in the down hill area of Central Park within a huge pack of people. It was incredible. He had more control than most people on two wheels.

    I would like to participate again and introduce the adventure to friends & family who have never participated (I know this could end up being torture). I also learned how much fun is was to ride my Single Speed Mountain Bike with cross tires 40+ miles. No kidding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob T
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    After boarding the ferry from Staten Island to Battery Park and being placed on the deck where all the cars are usually placed.
    HA HA did your ferry hit the wooden peir pulling into Battery park, and water started coming through the floor? You might have been on the same ferry as me.

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    About 8:45 AM? Maybe 9 AM

    That's why I carted my bike to the warm and dry second level. Times like that make you appreciate 18 lbs road bikes.

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    Seems like the only way to have a good time at this event now is to skip the start or cut in front of the masses like so many have mentioned doing. Stupid me for trying to follow the rules!!! I saw so many doing this and just assumed that they would get stopped by the marshals as I did in '05.

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    The recipe for a good riding experience is definitely getting out in front. The group I was with lined up about 6 blocks in front of the pack on 6th ave. We jumped in as soon as the VIP riders passed and never lost site of the lead group. We also made sure we were towards the front when leaving the stop in Queens. Also managed to get on the first ferry back. We left Hoboken around 7:00am and were back by 1:30. It was painless.

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