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    Like TomP, friends and I are looking at White Mesa on Sunday, albeit with less of a drive than Tom. Yeah, it'll be cold, but when you're stir crazy and want to ride, whacha gonna do? Did they get much snow down in SY, and are things muddy or mostly dry? And if WM is wet, might the northern end of RM be better? TIA,
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    Quote Originally Posted by NuMexJoe View Post
    Like TomP, friends and I are looking at White Mesa on Sunday, albeit with less of a drive than Tom. Yeah, it'll be cold, but when you're stir crazy and want to ride, whacha gonna do? Did they get much snow down in SY, and are things muddy or mostly dry? And if WM is wet, might the northern end of RM be better? TIA,
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    Hey Joe,I haven't been out there but most of it if not all the precipitation here in Alb. is been pretty much on the east side of the Sandias,unless someone can provide a better info on WM, I think you guys will be fine.Happy Trails.
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    its dry as heck out here in Rio Rancho, I was wheeling out at the end of Southern last week. Ill suspect its dry at WM. Go have some fun as more snow is suspected early next week.

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    Thanks guys! I appreciate the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RCC View Post
    Hey Joe,I haven't been out there but most of it if not all the precipitation here in Alb. is been pretty much on the east side of the Sandias,unless someone can provide a better info on WM, I think you guys will be fine.Happy Trails.
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    What about the west side of the Sandias, Ramon? Is Otero ridable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSweetleaf View Post
    What about the west side of the Sandias, Ramon? Is Otero ridable?
    Otero is about 80% covered with snow. Snow is only about 3in and trail is fairly packed. Damn cold in there.
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    WM was clear last Saturday... so if no new precip has occurred, it should be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbike52 View Post
    Otero is about 80% covered with snow. Snow is only about 3in and trail is fairly packed. Damn cold in there.
    Thanks mtbike52, So is it worth heading out there or should I just stick to the east side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuMexJoe View Post
    Like TomP, friends and I are looking at White Mesa on Sunday, albeit with less of a drive than Tom. Yeah, it'll be cold, but when you're stir crazy and want to ride, whacha gonna do? Did they get much snow down in SY, and are things muddy or mostly dry? And if WM is wet, might the northern end of RM be better? TIA,
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    Hey Joe, if you go ride, take some pics will ya? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSweetleaf View Post
    Thanks mtbike52, So is it worth heading out there or should I just stick to the east side?
    Brian rode out there today. I think he had a pretty good time. What snow there is is pretty solid. Not much mud at all. You just can't rip it like normal. Go for it.
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    What, and contribute actual content here? Pfffft! Alright, I'll see what I can do. Ya know, you & C. are welcome to tag along. Gimme a call at home if you're interested. Aiming for FIP at 11:00.
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    Hey Joe, if you go ride, take some pics will ya? Thanks!
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    I just hiked the whole loop with my family yesterday. No snow or mud, fully GTG! I'm planning on riding there today, mind if I join ya? I was thinking of doing 2-3 laps or maybe riding the detour out to the mines on White Mesa itself. Some fun tech descents and climbs and an open playground once you get over there. Maybe we can get some more NM crew to join?
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    Had a fun two laps of WM today. Hit the cliff line at the end of the Dragon's Back too for the first time. REM runs are great for skills. Pretty full lot and I only came close to two riders.

    I guess it will get snow tonight.
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    WM last week

    The big hole!
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    planning on going out there tomorrow or wednesday, Is it better to ride the loop clockwise or counter-clockwise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsbw68 View Post
    planning on going out there tomorrow or wednesday, Is it better to ride the loop clockwise or counter-clockwise?
    I am sure that some will disagree, any thing but clockwise is a waste of time. The roller coaster ride down dragons back is not so fun the other way.
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    Thanks ,hopefully it will be nice tomorrow

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    Ride it clockwise if you're doing one loop but you it's worth going the other way if you feel like doing two loops for a better workout.

    Anyone know how conditions will be tomorrow with today's snow? I heard it snowed in Rio Rancho today and don't know if that will be gone and dry by tomorrow or not.

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    Hey Joe,

    Thanks for the invite. The missus came down with the crud, so no ride there. Hope you had a chance to go. From what the word was on here, conditions were great. We'll see if this storm did anything...

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    What, and contribute actual content here? Pfffft! Alright, I'll see what I can do. Ya know, you & C. are welcome to tag along. Gimme a call at home if you're interested. Aiming for FIP at 11:00.
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    I bailed. I'd had visions of riding dry trail under a sunny sky, which is what the Wx forecast showed, but when I woke to totally overcast skies, driving 3 hrs tot. to ride in the cold & gray made a session on the trainer in the garage sound a bit more appealing. But we'll head down there sometime soon, and I'll keep you in the loop.
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    Hey Joe,

    Thanks for the invite. The missus came down with the crud, so no ride there. Hope you had a chance to go. From what the word was on here, conditions were great. We'll see if this storm did anything...
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    To Cabra Cadabra, can you say more about riding the cliff line at the end of the Dragon's Back? Do you roll it with no brakes? If so, how's the run out stopping before the fence? Or do you jump it? Been eyeing it along with some of the other steep tech in the area. Trying to figure out how to get the courage to go for these steeper lines and not kill myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ Clydesdale View Post
    To Cabra Cadabra, can you say more about riding the cliff line at the end of the Dragon's Back? Do you roll it with no brakes? If so, how's the run out stopping before the fence? Or do you jump it? Been eyeing it along with some of the other steep tech in the area. Trying to figure out how to get the courage to go for these steeper lines and not kill myself.
    I can't answer for Cabra C, but I roll it "taint-to-tire" style w/brakes.

    I've seen some guys bomb straight down it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ Clydesdale View Post
    To Cabra Cadabra, can you say more about riding the cliff line at the end of the Dragon's Back? Do you roll it with no brakes? If so, how's the run out stopping before the fence? Or do you jump it? Been eyeing it along with some of the other steep tech in the area. Trying to figure out how to get the courage to go for these steeper lines and not kill myself.
    My son and I ride off the very tip. The main thing is to keep off the back a bit, not to much. If you ride to far back you lose a bit of steering control. You don't need to really hit the brakes hard until you near the bottom. If you skid the rear brake all the way down you are not doing it right
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ_Biker View Post
    My son and I ride off the very tip. The main thing is to keep off the back a bit, not to much. If you ride to far back you lose a bit of steering control. You don't need to really hit the brakes hard until you near the bottom. If you skid the rear brake all the way down you are not doing it right
    And you guys are talking about the line furthest to the right, correct? Down the most vertical line? I comfortably handle the middle line but haven't found the stones to go down the right yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ Clydesdale View Post
    And you guys are talking about the line furthest to the right, correct? Down the most vertical line? I comfortably handle the middle line but haven't found the stones to go down the right yet.
    Yeah to the right. But, it is just a mental thing. As long as you let the bike do its thing and NOT hit the brakes, it just flows. Start out slow at the top before dropping in and you will not have too much speed at the bottom to stop.
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    Oh... never mind, I do the middle & left lines but I've seen peeps do the right one on long travel 26rs w/drop posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ_Biker View Post
    Yeah to the right. But, it is just a mental thing. As long as you let the bike do its thing and NOT hit the brakes, it just flows. Start out slow at the top before dropping in and you will not have too much speed at the bottom to stop.
    Thanks ABQ_Biker!

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    I use brakes but don't skid (as much as possible). I'm pretty anti-skidding unless its fully loose like the bottom of that line. Of course I haven't ridden it w/ my bando bros, so I'm sure there is a whole other way of doing it.

    Funny, last year I wouldn't have done it and I also worried about being able to stop, but that seems silly now.

    Best cure for tech woes is a dose of Bandos ride tag along honestly. You go from "no Fing way", to "wait people do that?", to doing it. At my age I wait until I'm 95% confident and then hit it, if you think you will bail you probably will. Give er some time and when ready hit that ****e!

    I'll post here next time I go and let's ride it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cabra cadabra View Post
    Best cure for tech woes is a dose of Bandos ride tag along honestly. You go from "no Fing way", to "wait people do that?", to doing it. At my age I wait until I'm 95% confident and then hit it, if you think you will bail you probably will. Give er some time and when ready hit that ****e!

    I'll post here next time I go and let's ride it.
    Thanks Cabra. I ran into Lynn in the SFH a couple weeks ago and have definitely been thinking about a Bando ride-along, or maybe multiple Bando ride-alongs. Lynn gave me a couple pointers just in the 10 minutes or so I was with him. As for hitting WM, I'm definitely up for it.

    Just need to coordinate schedules. I've got two other guys I usually ride with who are more fearless than me, and we are all hoping to make 2013 the year we really increase our courage and downhill tech skills!

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    dropper post FTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ_Biker View Post
    My son and I ride off the very tip. The main thing is to keep off the back a bit, not to much. If you ride to far back you lose a bit of steering control. You don't need to really hit the brakes hard until you near the bottom. If you skid the rear brake all the way down you are not doing it right
    I personally watched Andrew drop that line several times one afternoon, despite having a broken (and casted) wrist. He made it look a whole lot easier than it actually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cabra cadabra View Post
    Best cure for tech woes is a dose of Bandos ride tag along honestly. You go from "no Fing way", to "wait people do that?", to doing it. At my age I wait until I'm 95% confident and then hit it, if you think you will bail you probably will. Give er some time and when ready hit that ****e!

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    so I am guessing White Mesa got snow out of this last storm... wonder when it will be good to ride again??? Was hoping for this weekend...

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    Quote Originally Posted by m_dub007 View Post
    so I am guessing White Mesa got snow out of this last storm... wonder when it will be good to ride again??? Was hoping for this weekend...
    This past Sunday there were traces of snow on the trail. Most likely will be good this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crux View Post
    This past Sunday there were traces of snow on the trail. Most likely will be good this weekend.
    I'll be there tomorrow, expecting good conditions

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    I'm going tomorrow with the BTI crew. We should be there at noon. The more, the merrier. Not a hammer ride.
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    Cabra, wish I could make it tomorrow, but I'm on daddy duty. Please continue to post when you'll be going out there. Thanks!

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    What time cabby?
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    Noonish, from Santa Fe. I have a white Ibis.
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    Turned out we got there around 11:30 and the 7 of us did the main loop plus went down the middle ridge and back up the east ridge again. My buddy tried to shoot some video of me down the end of the Dragon's Back but found out later he was in photo mode.

    Who has hit that cliff down the middle ridge? About the same size as the REM one. I was ready to do it but thought better once I remembered I didn't have my flats on. Pretty tight entry but the right side looks rollable.
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    Are you talking about the roller about halfway down the center spine? The line i take is about as far right as you can go. I ran into about 7 people but they were all on hardtail 29ers. Must of been my new bike using its big wheel magic to summon other 29ers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Are you talking about the roller about halfway down the center spine? The line i take is about as far right as you can go. I ran into about 7 people but they were all on hardtail 29ers. Must of been my new bike using its big wheel magic to summon other 29ers.


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    Hey fuglio I was one of those guys you saw this past weekend... Props to you man, I was in awe on how you flew down that middle spine, that was very impressive. I wanted to comment on your t-shirt but I was the last one down the middle spine I was on the phone with a buddy and I didnt make it down in time. How did you ride that big drop on the center spine? Anyways nice Casualties tee.

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    Its a little deceptive cause the trail leads where its all notched out. The line i take is far to the right you have to go wide then just trust the line and throw your ass back a little bit. If you wanted to huck it i think its possible but ive never tried theres no kicker or good run in or run out... now that you guys have me thinking about it one option might be to go far far right and instead of turning left for the roller just send it straight off amd a little left to get back on the trail. You would need to land about 15 feet out and 10 feet down.. i might stick to rolling it

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    Props fuglio if you're hittin that with a hardtail. Hucking that would be sketchy. I think after a beer:30 you could easily do it.
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    If anyone is out there today post up the conditions (did it get snow?). May hit that area tomorrow and we are doing a club ride Sunday. Gracias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Its a little deceptive cause the trail leads where its all notched out. The line i take is far to the right you have to go wide then just trust the line and throw your ass back a little bit. If you wanted to huck it i think its possible but ive never tried theres no kicker or good run in or run out...
    I stared at that line a couple of weeks ago but wasn't gutsy enough. Props to you!

    I thought the line down on the right didn't look terrible in and of itself, but you don't have much space to maneuver when you get to the bottom and have to make that right hand turn, or run up on a rock mound on the other side. What does your exit look like?

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    The exit is really easy just takes care of itself... the hardst part is spoting the entrance... have you been to the north valley bike park?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    The exit is really easy just takes care of itself... the hardst part is spoting the entrance... have you been to the north valley bike park?
    Cool, may have to give it a whirl next time I ride WM.

    As for the NVBP, no, haven't checked it out yet. Just did a little google search to see what it was all about, looks cool!

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    Will have to add it to the list when I'm up in ABQ next time (I live in Socorro).

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