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    White Mesa GTG?

    Like TomP, friends and I are looking at White Mesa on Sunday, albeit with less of a drive than Tom. Yeah, it'll be cold, but when you're stir crazy and want to ride, whacha gonna do? Did they get much snow down in SY, and are things muddy or mostly dry? And if WM is wet, might the northern end of RM be better? TIA,
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    Quote Originally Posted by NuMexJoe View Post
    Like TomP, friends and I are looking at White Mesa on Sunday, albeit with less of a drive than Tom. Yeah, it'll be cold, but when you're stir crazy and want to ride, whacha gonna do? Did they get much snow down in SY, and are things muddy or mostly dry? And if WM is wet, might the northern end of RM be better? TIA,
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    Hey Joe,I haven't been out there but most of it if not all the precipitation here in Alb. is been pretty much on the east side of the Sandias,unless someone can provide a better info on WM, I think you guys will be fine.Happy Trails.
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    its dry as heck out here in Rio Rancho, I was wheeling out at the end of Southern last week. Ill suspect its dry at WM. Go have some fun as more snow is suspected early next week.

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    Thanks guys! I appreciate the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RCC View Post
    Hey Joe,I haven't been out there but most of it if not all the precipitation here in Alb. is been pretty much on the east side of the Sandias,unless someone can provide a better info on WM, I think you guys will be fine.Happy Trails.
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    What about the west side of the Sandias, Ramon? Is Otero ridable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSweetleaf View Post
    What about the west side of the Sandias, Ramon? Is Otero ridable?
    Otero is about 80% covered with snow. Snow is only about 3in and trail is fairly packed. Damn cold in there.
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    WM was clear last Saturday... so if no new precip has occurred, it should be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbike52 View Post
    Otero is about 80% covered with snow. Snow is only about 3in and trail is fairly packed. Damn cold in there.
    Thanks mtbike52, So is it worth heading out there or should I just stick to the east side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuMexJoe View Post
    Like TomP, friends and I are looking at White Mesa on Sunday, albeit with less of a drive than Tom. Yeah, it'll be cold, but when you're stir crazy and want to ride, whacha gonna do? Did they get much snow down in SY, and are things muddy or mostly dry? And if WM is wet, might the northern end of RM be better? TIA,
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSweetleaf View Post
    Thanks mtbike52, So is it worth heading out there or should I just stick to the east side?
    Brian rode out there today. I think he had a pretty good time. What snow there is is pretty solid. Not much mud at all. You just can't rip it like normal. Go for it.
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    What, and contribute actual content here? Pfffft! Alright, I'll see what I can do. Ya know, you & C. are welcome to tag along. Gimme a call at home if you're interested. Aiming for FIP at 11:00.
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    Hey Joe, if you go ride, take some pics will ya? Thanks!
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    I just hiked the whole loop with my family yesterday. No snow or mud, fully GTG! I'm planning on riding there today, mind if I join ya? I was thinking of doing 2-3 laps or maybe riding the detour out to the mines on White Mesa itself. Some fun tech descents and climbs and an open playground once you get over there. Maybe we can get some more NM crew to join?
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    Had a fun two laps of WM today. Hit the cliff line at the end of the Dragon's Back too for the first time. REM runs are great for skills. Pretty full lot and I only came close to two riders.

    I guess it will get snow tonight.
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    WM last week

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    planning on going out there tomorrow or wednesday, Is it better to ride the loop clockwise or counter-clockwise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsbw68 View Post
    planning on going out there tomorrow or wednesday, Is it better to ride the loop clockwise or counter-clockwise?
    I am sure that some will disagree, any thing but clockwise is a waste of time. The roller coaster ride down dragons back is not so fun the other way.
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    Thanks ,hopefully it will be nice tomorrow

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    Ride it clockwise if you're doing one loop but you it's worth going the other way if you feel like doing two loops for a better workout.

    Anyone know how conditions will be tomorrow with today's snow? I heard it snowed in Rio Rancho today and don't know if that will be gone and dry by tomorrow or not.

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    Hey Joe,

    Thanks for the invite. The missus came down with the crud, so no ride there. Hope you had a chance to go. From what the word was on here, conditions were great. We'll see if this storm did anything...

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    What, and contribute actual content here? Pfffft! Alright, I'll see what I can do. Ya know, you & C. are welcome to tag along. Gimme a call at home if you're interested. Aiming for FIP at 11:00.
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    I bailed. I'd had visions of riding dry trail under a sunny sky, which is what the Wx forecast showed, but when I woke to totally overcast skies, driving 3 hrs tot. to ride in the cold & gray made a session on the trainer in the garage sound a bit more appealing. But we'll head down there sometime soon, and I'll keep you in the loop.
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    Hey Joe,

    Thanks for the invite. The missus came down with the crud, so no ride there. Hope you had a chance to go. From what the word was on here, conditions were great. We'll see if this storm did anything...
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    To Cabra Cadabra, can you say more about riding the cliff line at the end of the Dragon's Back? Do you roll it with no brakes? If so, how's the run out stopping before the fence? Or do you jump it? Been eyeing it along with some of the other steep tech in the area. Trying to figure out how to get the courage to go for these steeper lines and not kill myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ Clydesdale View Post
    To Cabra Cadabra, can you say more about riding the cliff line at the end of the Dragon's Back? Do you roll it with no brakes? If so, how's the run out stopping before the fence? Or do you jump it? Been eyeing it along with some of the other steep tech in the area. Trying to figure out how to get the courage to go for these steeper lines and not kill myself.
    I can't answer for Cabra C, but I roll it "taint-to-tire" style w/brakes.

    I've seen some guys bomb straight down it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ Clydesdale View Post
    To Cabra Cadabra, can you say more about riding the cliff line at the end of the Dragon's Back? Do you roll it with no brakes? If so, how's the run out stopping before the fence? Or do you jump it? Been eyeing it along with some of the other steep tech in the area. Trying to figure out how to get the courage to go for these steeper lines and not kill myself.
    My son and I ride off the very tip. The main thing is to keep off the back a bit, not to much. If you ride to far back you lose a bit of steering control. You don't need to really hit the brakes hard until you near the bottom. If you skid the rear brake all the way down you are not doing it right
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ_Biker View Post
    My son and I ride off the very tip. The main thing is to keep off the back a bit, not to much. If you ride to far back you lose a bit of steering control. You don't need to really hit the brakes hard until you near the bottom. If you skid the rear brake all the way down you are not doing it right
    And you guys are talking about the line furthest to the right, correct? Down the most vertical line? I comfortably handle the middle line but haven't found the stones to go down the right yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ Clydesdale View Post
    And you guys are talking about the line furthest to the right, correct? Down the most vertical line? I comfortably handle the middle line but haven't found the stones to go down the right yet.
    Yeah to the right. But, it is just a mental thing. As long as you let the bike do its thing and NOT hit the brakes, it just flows. Start out slow at the top before dropping in and you will not have too much speed at the bottom to stop.
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    Oh... never mind, I do the middle & left lines but I've seen peeps do the right one on long travel 26rs w/drop posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ_Biker View Post
    Yeah to the right. But, it is just a mental thing. As long as you let the bike do its thing and NOT hit the brakes, it just flows. Start out slow at the top before dropping in and you will not have too much speed at the bottom to stop.
    Thanks ABQ_Biker!

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    I use brakes but don't skid (as much as possible). I'm pretty anti-skidding unless its fully loose like the bottom of that line. Of course I haven't ridden it w/ my bando bros, so I'm sure there is a whole other way of doing it.

    Funny, last year I wouldn't have done it and I also worried about being able to stop, but that seems silly now.

    Best cure for tech woes is a dose of Bandos ride tag along honestly. You go from "no Fing way", to "wait people do that?", to doing it. At my age I wait until I'm 95% confident and then hit it, if you think you will bail you probably will. Give er some time and when ready hit that shite!

    I'll post here next time I go and let's ride it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cabra cadabra View Post
    Best cure for tech woes is a dose of Bandos ride tag along honestly. You go from "no Fing way", to "wait people do that?", to doing it. At my age I wait until I'm 95% confident and then hit it, if you think you will bail you probably will. Give er some time and when ready hit that shite!

    I'll post here next time I go and let's ride it.
    Thanks Cabra. I ran into Lynn in the SFH a couple weeks ago and have definitely been thinking about a Bando ride-along, or maybe multiple Bando ride-alongs. Lynn gave me a couple pointers just in the 10 minutes or so I was with him. As for hitting WM, I'm definitely up for it.

    Just need to coordinate schedules. I've got two other guys I usually ride with who are more fearless than me, and we are all hoping to make 2013 the year we really increase our courage and downhill tech skills!

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    dropper post FTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ_Biker View Post
    My son and I ride off the very tip. The main thing is to keep off the back a bit, not to much. If you ride to far back you lose a bit of steering control. You don't need to really hit the brakes hard until you near the bottom. If you skid the rear brake all the way down you are not doing it right
    I personally watched Andrew drop that line several times one afternoon, despite having a broken (and casted) wrist. He made it look a whole lot easier than it actually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cabra cadabra View Post
    Best cure for tech woes is a dose of Bandos ride tag along honestly. You go from "no Fing way", to "wait people do that?", to doing it. At my age I wait until I'm 95% confident and then hit it, if you think you will bail you probably will. Give er some time and when ready hit that shite!

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    so I am guessing White Mesa got snow out of this last storm... wonder when it will be good to ride again??? Was hoping for this weekend...

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    Quote Originally Posted by m_dub007 View Post
    so I am guessing White Mesa got snow out of this last storm... wonder when it will be good to ride again??? Was hoping for this weekend...
    This past Sunday there were traces of snow on the trail. Most likely will be good this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crux View Post
    This past Sunday there were traces of snow on the trail. Most likely will be good this weekend.
    I'll be there tomorrow, expecting good conditions

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    I'm going tomorrow with the BTI crew. We should be there at noon. The more, the merrier. Not a hammer ride.
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    Cabra, wish I could make it tomorrow, but I'm on daddy duty. Please continue to post when you'll be going out there. Thanks!

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    What time cabby?
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    Noonish, from Santa Fe. I have a white Ibis.
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    Turned out we got there around 11:30 and the 7 of us did the main loop plus went down the middle ridge and back up the east ridge again. My buddy tried to shoot some video of me down the end of the Dragon's Back but found out later he was in photo mode.

    Who has hit that cliff down the middle ridge? About the same size as the REM one. I was ready to do it but thought better once I remembered I didn't have my flats on. Pretty tight entry but the right side looks rollable.
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    Are you talking about the roller about halfway down the center spine? The line i take is about as far right as you can go. I ran into about 7 people but they were all on hardtail 29ers. Must of been my new bike using its big wheel magic to summon other 29ers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Are you talking about the roller about halfway down the center spine? The line i take is about as far right as you can go. I ran into about 7 people but they were all on hardtail 29ers. Must of been my new bike using its big wheel magic to summon other 29ers.


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    Hey fuglio I was one of those guys you saw this past weekend... Props to you man, I was in awe on how you flew down that middle spine, that was very impressive. I wanted to comment on your t-shirt but I was the last one down the middle spine I was on the phone with a buddy and I didnt make it down in time. How did you ride that big drop on the center spine? Anyways nice Casualties tee.

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    Its a little deceptive cause the trail leads where its all notched out. The line i take is far to the right you have to go wide then just trust the line and throw your ass back a little bit. If you wanted to huck it i think its possible but ive never tried theres no kicker or good run in or run out... now that you guys have me thinking about it one option might be to go far far right and instead of turning left for the roller just send it straight off amd a little left to get back on the trail. You would need to land about 15 feet out and 10 feet down.. i might stick to rolling it

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    Props fuglio if you're hittin that with a hardtail. Hucking that would be sketchy. I think after a beer:30 you could easily do it.
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    If anyone is out there today post up the conditions (did it get snow?). May hit that area tomorrow and we are doing a club ride Sunday. Gracias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Its a little deceptive cause the trail leads where its all notched out. The line i take is far to the right you have to go wide then just trust the line and throw your ass back a little bit. If you wanted to huck it i think its possible but ive never tried theres no kicker or good run in or run out...
    I stared at that line a couple of weeks ago but wasn't gutsy enough. Props to you!

    I thought the line down on the right didn't look terrible in and of itself, but you don't have much space to maneuver when you get to the bottom and have to make that right hand turn, or run up on a rock mound on the other side. What does your exit look like?

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    The exit is really easy just takes care of itself... the hardst part is spoting the entrance... have you been to the north valley bike park?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    The exit is really easy just takes care of itself... the hardst part is spoting the entrance... have you been to the north valley bike park?
    Cool, may have to give it a whirl next time I ride WM.

    As for the NVBP, no, haven't checked it out yet. Just did a little google search to see what it was all about, looks cool!

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    Will have to add it to the list when I'm up in ABQ next time (I live in Socorro).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bt2S88 View Post
    What time, tomorrow? I might be up for a spin out there. It's been a while.

    I think the light dusting would only make things a little more interesting, and the colder temps pretty much guarantees there will be no muck.
    Not going to WM tomorrow, but may Sunday.
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    We could use some North Valley Bike Park pix in the NM Trails thread.

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    White Mesa and Red Mesa are GTG. We'll have a bunch of riders from SF hittin it at 11ish on Sunday.
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    Great photo. I never get tired of the colors at WM.

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    ....removed my not so wise comments, thanks ABQ Biker.
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    Not a good idea to publicize the moonscape as it is in private land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ_Biker View Post
    Not a good idea to publicize the moonscape as it is in private land.
    +1...But if I was going to ride there, I would wait until Super Bowl Sunday. I have been told that the mine has always been shutdown and deserted on SBS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xNJr View Post
    +1...But if I was going to ride there, I would wait until Super Bowl Sunday. I have been told that the mine has always been shutdown and deserted on SBS.
    And miss the Super Bowl?!?!?!?!

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    Thinking about hitting WM after lunch now that the weather is great!
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    Got out there about 2pm and the lot was packed - the wind totally sucked but wut the hell; it was a good ride.

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    Both Directions, Just as fun

    We got two laps in, one in each direction. Fortunately the wind was blowing us uphill each way . The two laps earned us a great meal at Los Ojos on the way back. LA Peeps: The Los Ojos owner just bought The Bandelier Grill in White Rock and should have it up to good speed by the end of February

    My daughter catchin some air in the wind:
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    The Springs were ice covered and incredibly beautiful:

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    Those ice flows make a good case for studded tyres on your new fat bike nate.

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    ..but they're too purdy to ride over
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    Very cool looking from the power line mesa into the canyon; ice, snow on the north facing slopes and gypsum on the south facing. Casual observation might not reveal the difference. Rode it yesterday and my kid wanted to ride today so we went again. Find something new every time. Colors change with the weather, new lines reveal themselves, where does that spur go? Can you get out the end of the canyon? You can if you follow Ray. Always an adventure.

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    Since the subject was brought up earlier, a couple vids from the end of the DB, two slightly different lines:

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/57902215" width="400" height="300" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe>

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabra cadabra View Post
    Since the subject was brought up earlier, a couple vids from the end of the DB, two slightly different lines:
    Thanks for that. I wasn't sure that line could be rolled.
    Now I know and just need to HTFU.

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    Now that I've done it a handful of times it feels pretty easy, and stopping is no prob at all - love disc brakes. I was hardly leaning back. I want to work on going faster and faster. Someone post up and show me how it's done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cabra cadabra View Post
    Since the subject was brought up earlier, a couple vids from the end of the DB, two slightly different lines:

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/57902215" width="400" height="300" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe>

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/57902216" width="400" height="300" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe>
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    Quote Originally Posted by NuMexJoe View Post
    I bailed. I'd had visions of riding dry trail under a sunny sky, which is what the Wx forecast showed, but when I woke to totally overcast skies, driving 3 hrs tot. to ride in the cold & gray made a session on the trainer in the garage sound a bit more appealing. But we'll head down there sometime soon, and I'll keep you in the loop.
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    you chose a trainer session?!?!

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    (Look who dropped in!) Yeah, well I'm not married to a Canadian nor do I live there, so I don't have to be tough. Come visit, and we'll ride rain or shine. Or meet me in Moab. Bring the family!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NuMexJoe View Post
    (Look who dropped in!) Yeah, well I'm not married to a Canadian nor do I live there, so I don't have to be tough. Come visit, and we'll ride rain or shine. Or meet me in Moab. Bring the family!
    I'm married to a 'Merican, but we live in BC. We hit Moab last year for a few weeks, don't expect to make it back this year, but you should bring the family to ride in BC before we head for a less rainy climate (which we talk about frequently).

    btw, if I were to visit LA (and I'd really like to come back and ride LA again), I would hate to have to ride in the rain. I do that plenty already, I try to plan my trips for maximum sunshine..
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    Does anyone want to venture a guess about WM conditions after this round of weather? Better yet, any real info? I was thinking about doing a lap out there mañana.
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    Hey Pat, looks like there are snow showers out in that area right now.
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    Thanks Steve. Looks like it missed us. Saturday anyway. I was dusty dry out there.
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    .....and it's still dry &freaking waaay windy. +50mph today easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6bobby9 View Post
    .....and it's still dry &freaking waaay windy. +50mph today easy.
    When its windy at white mesa it sure sucks..... or blows forget which one it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    When its windy at white mesa it sure sucks..... or blows forget which one it is.
    It doesn't blow, it effn flat out SUCKS!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by maximo View Post
    Hey fuglio I was one of those guys you saw this past weekend... Props to you man, I was in awe on how you flew down that middle spine, that was very impressive. I wanted to comment on your t-shirt but I was the last one down the middle spine I was on the phone with a buddy and I didn't make it down in time. How did you ride that big drop on the center spine? Anyways nice Casualties tee.
    I was out there today weather was very nice.no wind or mud. Made a center spine vid... I was gonna put the casualties on it, but none of their songs matched good so here's some rancid. If you ever want to go for a ride just hit me up maximo

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2UW9jzoxsBo?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6euhr21nlkg?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    good ole' white mesa lots of fast lines to bad you have to pedal to get to em

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