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    What happened to friendly riders in Alb?

    I went out for a quick after work ride in the Foothills and was not terribly pleased with the other riders out there. Normally *most* riders I see/pass in Albuquerque are at least cordial if not down right friendly, not tonight though.

    I passed 10 or 12 other riders, some were completely oblivious to the fact that I was climbing through the pebbles, because they blitzed right down forcing me off the trail without so much as an excuse me. This happened with two different 2 rider groups. I also passed a bunch of single riders that made no effort to even return a greeting. I'm not generally looking to tell them my life's story, but a "hey" or "evening" would have been nice. None of these passings were on tough sections so I must not have a friendly look about me these days. Even the hikers and runners were more friendly. I always let them pick my path by them and say thanks or offer a greeting and it's generally returned.

    I did run into a very nice rider who stopped for a 2 minute trail talk about bikes. Both of us gave the other the right of way, since we both stopped it was quick "how do you like your bike type convo". That's what it should be like IMO.

    This is not the norm from my experience, but tonight's ride sure would put me off if I was new to Albuquerque.

    Just ranting here, please be friendly out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBarnaby
    I went out for a quick after work ride in the Foothills and was not terribly pleased with the other riders out there. Normally *most* riders I see/pass in Albuquerque are at least cordial if not down right friendly, not tonight though.

    I passed 10 or 12 other riders, some were completely oblivious to the fact that I was climbing through the pebbles, because they blitzed right down forcing me off the trail without so much as an excuse me. This happened with two different 2 rider groups. I also passed a bunch of single riders that made no effort to even return a greeting. I'm not generally looking to tell them my life's story, but a "hey" or "evening" would have been nice. None of these passings were on tough sections so I must not have a friendly look about me these days. Even the hikers and runners were more friendly. I always let them pick my path by them and say thanks or offer a greeting and it's generally returned.

    I did run into a very nice rider who stopped for a 2 minute trail talk about bikes. Both of us gave the other the right of way, since we both stopped it was quick "how do you like your bike type convo". That's what it should be like IMO.

    This is not the norm from my experience, but tonight's ride sure would put me off if I was new to Albuquerque.

    Just ranting here, please be friendly out there.

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    Its to bad that some riders have forgotten what it mean to be respectfull of others on the trail. Some riders seem to think its all about them. Usually those people are far and few between. Thankfully most of us just love to ride and share those rides and trails with others. It only takes a few to leave a bad taste for a long time. Those few make us all look bad to nonriders on the trail. We just have to work a little harder to make sure we are not the ones leaving that bad taste. See you on the trail.

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    Keep in mind that there are a bunch of tourists in ABQ for the balloon fiesta. They won't necessarily know the right of way.

    We came upon some hikers sitting in the middle of the trail having snacks on Saturday in the east mountains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NE2NM
    Keep in mind that there are a bunch of tourists in ABQ for the balloon fiesta. They won't necessarily know the right of way.

    We came upon some hikers sitting in the middle of the trail having snacks on Saturday in the east mountains.
    That was sort of funny and they looked like they'd been there for a while. They didn't offer to share.

    I don't think they liked it when I went through and said "aim for the pink"

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    Good point Jose. Guess folks treat some people different. Even though I am not so well accepted by some here, it is rare that I run into someone on the trail and don't engage them and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Even though I am not so well accepted by some here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Yelling!...That WASN'T YELLING!....That was actually my inside voice too!
    Your just a bit excitable.

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    And Leon is getting laaaaarrrrrger.

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    "Your friends just yelled at us. We're not feeling very good toward bikers"

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    Quote Originally Posted by NE2NM
    Keep in mind that there are a bunch of tourists in ABQ for the balloon fiesta. They won't necessarily know the right of way.

    We came upon some hikers sitting in the middle of the trail having snacks on Saturday in the east mountains.
    Not just the hikers, I came across a group of bikers on Faulty last Saturday blocking the trail. But I was in no hurry, and they seemed friendly enough. (Although there were no offers of sharing what they were drinking either)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NE2NM
    "Your friends just yelled at us. We're not feeling very good toward hikers"
    Fixed that for you.
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    so my son and i are riding down an elena trail a month ago..we were going fairly fast down a trail that was split down the middle two lanes....a guy is coming up the trail on one side and as we go past him in the opposite direction....he slaps me across the face and the top of my helmet...he was on a bike also...before i tell you what happened......what would you guys have done????

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    I would sick Bruce on him!

    Seriously, I could not begin to tell you how I would have reacted. There must have been other circumstances.

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    no other circumstances! ive been racing mountain bikes for 15 years at an expert level and it was probably the craziest thing that has ever happened on a trail to me! i had just picked up my yeti asr-carbon and was on the first ride with it

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    I feel lucky I was not assaulted, that's just not called for...ever.

    I'm going to just carry on like all users have respect for each other and let trail karma take care of the ones that don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike5876
    so my son and i are riding down an elena trail a month ago..we were going fairly fast down a trail that was split down the middle two lanes....a guy is coming up the trail on one side and as we go past him in the opposite direction....he slaps me across the face and the top of my helmet...he was on a bike also...before i tell you what happened......what would you guys have done????
    I honestly don't know, but I probably would have hit him back unless I thought I'd get seriously hurt.
    I was riding my road bike up Tramway the other day and somebody threw a soda at me from a car. I didn't even know what happened for a few seconds and there was nothing I could but but it was pretty lame.
    So what did you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike5876
    so my son and i are riding down an elena trail a month ago..we were going fairly fast down a trail that was split down the middle two lanes....a guy is coming up the trail on one side and as we go past him in the opposite direction....he slaps me across the face and the top of my helmet...he was on a bike also...before i tell you what happened......what would you guys have done????
    What specific section of trail did this occur on?

    And if you were going fairly fast how did he slap you on the face and top of your helmet?

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    Maybe it was perropirana...I hear he's a hot head

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Maybe it was perropirana...I hear he's a hot head
    He would know if it was me...I haven't been to the foothills in months. I am waiting for you (Brian) to go by so I can give you some MTB love... I heard Ruby smoked the Bandoleros, can that be possible....lol
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    its not too hard to hit someone in the head even if im going fast stick out arm connect with head of downhill traveling bike guy

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    It is very possible, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by perropirana
    He would know if it was me...I haven't been to the foothills in months. I am waiting for you (Brian) to go by so I can give you some MTB love... I heard Ruby smoked the Bandoleros, can that be possible....lol
    I actually have a lot of respect for Ruby. Maybe you should show some too.

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    Yea, the last few weeks that I have ridden at ellana there have been several A$$HATS. But nobody has slapped my face, that happens and its on. Question, why do dog walkers bag the poop then just leave it on the trail?

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    I offered a tube to a guy the other day. He was broken down on the side of the trail and I had seen him have a couple of other flats during the day. Upon offering, he asked me if it was an "ultra-light," mind you, I don't even know what that is, but he didn't want my tube so I left him there on the side of the trail trying to patch his up as it was getting dark.

    Same day, someone we all know, practically ran me off of the trail as he was coming down and I was going up, no word, no apology, nothing. Good thing the rest of his group was nice, or I might have turned around and chased his citified ass down.

    Not just in ABQ.

    Overall mountain bikers are nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    I actually have a lot of respect for Ruby. Maybe you should show some too.
    She is an RN, a great rider,a boater, and my friend's GF, therefore she has my respect, you on the other hand Don't. You just can't be a normal person and post about useful topics. Me and Andy try to ignore you, but it seems almost impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike5876
    its not too hard to hit someone in the head even if im going fast stick out arm connect with head of downhill traveling bike guy
    Yes, but you said "face and top of my helmet". And again... which section of trail was this?

    I suspect you sir of trollery.



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    I always suspected that individual to be a face-man, if it is who I think it is. I called him out on some of his BS in another thread, but he has such a loyal following...

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    UG, I just wanted to talk about the butt heads I encountered. Can't we just ignore the b*ll****? Anyone else have any other real stories of trail debauchery?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyN



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    Nah, you present much more of a challenge than Leo. His view on things is even more distorted than mine. At least I walk away from our e-battles with something to think about. With him, I feel like I'm arguing with a Neanderthal.

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    I was riding Elena one day, uphill, on a single track with a guy who is 67. This guy came screaming down the trail out of control over water ruts. I just shook my head and stopped to let him pass when he should have yielded us. I let it slide with me but when he ran my67 year old off the trail, I couldn't let that go. I chased him down and when I caught him, I let loose. He wouldn't get off his bike. I was going to try some new arm bars i learned. Pretty told him if he cannot face a fight, learn to respect others cuz the next guy might just yank him off the bike and give him a beatdown.

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    no trollery whatever that is.......i guess i didnt pick and choose my words properly.....the guy slapped me across my helmet and he got his ass whipped i just wanted to hear some opinions of what others would have done...im not a kid im 50 but i just cant tolerate behavior like that...the bad thing i lost my wedding ring when i slapped him on the ground

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    That is a great story!

    I cried at the end....from laughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike5876
    so my son and i are riding down an elena trail a month ago..we were going fairly fast down a trail that was split down the middle two lanes....a guy is coming up the trail on one side and as we go past him in the opposite direction....he slaps me across the face and the top of my helmet...he was on a bike also...before i tell you what happened......what would you guys have done????
    He'd be regretting what he had done.
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    NICE!
    B!ch slapped him. All i can say is thank you cuz you hopefully taught him a lesson.

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    Hey home, I can dig it. You know he ain't gonna lay no mo' big rap up on you man.

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    Nice work. Did he give an explanation? That just seems really strange that some stranger would hit you out of nowhere. On people not knowing that the climbing rider has the right of way is just people not respecting each other and it happens everywhere, just drive any where in ABQ and it'll happen, expecting them to be aware because they own a bike is a little naive.

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    i guess anyone stupid enough to hit someone in the head for no reason probably doesnt have rational thoughts going on in their own heads..hence i got no explanation jsut a smart ass attitude until i straightened him out

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    Is that the same guy I gave my last 29er tube to? I've flatted 3x since then, the first time as we rolled back up to the cars at the end of that ride. I'm due some good trail karma soon.

    A few years back I had a hiker actually reach out and try to depress my shifter as I was spinning up a particularily steep climb (Chamiza). The craziest part of it was that I had yielded trail but he had stepped aside and waived me past. A few choice words were exchanged but I could tell he was at least one fry short of a happy meal so I let it go.

    I carry pepper spray now. Wish I'd had it then. I would have "Jim Beamed" the dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdaddy
    Is that the same guy I gave my last 29er tube to? I've flatted 3x since then, the first time as we rolled back up to the cars at the end of that ride. I'm due some good trail karma soon.
    One in the same. Wouldn't that have been ironic if you were stuck on the trail because of that? I've got to get me an ultra light tube!

    Funny thing, one in the bad day category, when I posted up on Austin's MTB forums that same guy was one of the first people to offer to show me around. He didn't even know who I was, small world.
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    Way to go dude! what a story! I'm glad it ended the way I was hoping it was going to end.
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    Got any pics? I would have run over him with my bike after b!tch slapping his ass! Then taken pics of the tread marks across his face..

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    I guess I am lucky. I almost never encounter other riders, friendly or otherwise, on the trails I ride. I do see quite a few hikers, but I give them plenty of room, and have never had a negative encounter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike5876
    no trollery whatever that is.......i guess i didnt pick and choose my words properly.....the guy slapped me across my helmet and he got his ass whipped i just wanted to hear some opinions of what others would have done...im not a kid im 50 but i just cant tolerate behavior like that...the bad thing i lost my wedding ring when i slapped him on the ground
    So, for the 3rd time... what section of trail was this exactly?

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    Glad to hear you went after him. I doubt he will try that stunt again.

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    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.

    Quote Originally Posted by mike5876
    ...the bad thing i lost my wedding ring when i slapped him on the ground
    Quote Originally Posted by AndyN
    So, for the 3rd time... what section of trail was this exactly?
    Yeah... Now I want to know too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike5876
    so my son and i are riding down an elena trail a month ago..we were going fairly fast down a trail that was split down the middle two lanes....a guy is coming up the trail on one side and as we go past him in the opposite direction....he slaps me across the face and the top of my helmet...he was on a bike also...before i tell you what happened......what would you guys have done????

    Maybe its cause your head is too big. And you ride a roadie bike too much..

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    Self Defense for MTBers

    Where can I sign up for a self defense course for mtbers? I don't really want to fight, I just want to ride. But now I'm scared.

    I think the "rules" also say the uphill rider can take the first swing. But remember, the faster the downhiller is going, the more pain the uphiller will have on his fist when contact is made with the downhillers face. That's cow smarts!

    Let's go faster and stick our faces out further! Tha'll teach 'em a thing or two!

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    lol i went there with a metal detector 2 times

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    Going east up the Elena trail past the 3 way intersection, (that takes you to the guard shack, Middle trail) up about 200 yards on the last little climb section where the trail splits in 2 just for about 15 feet right before you get to the left turn little downhill section.

    Hope that helps.

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