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    VISITORS READ HERE FIRST: Local riding advice

    A chiller day at the office, so I'll work on this. An idea borrowed from our fine AZ friends.

    I'll see about getting it Sticky-fied.

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    This thread is directed primarily at out of area visitors as well as new riders who don't know where else to ride in our glorious state besides their favorite city park trail.

    To our visitors: We've created this thread to hopefully answer the most obvious questions you have about riding in our state. This should help respond to the "I'm coming to New Mexico where should I ride?" type questions.

    If it still doesn't answer your questions, then maybe we need to add more stuff to our sticky! Go ahead and post to the board if you still have questions.

    Thread rules:

    * Locals, please post your personal recommendations for your personal favorite rides. Include enough detail that the reader can determine the ride's difficulty, trailhead directions, ride directions, and seasonal considerations.

    * Do not comment on someone else's recommendations unless it is to clarify or expand on what someone else is recommending.

    * This is not the thread to recommend or criticize local bike shops. If you include information about a bike shop, please make sure it's related to the ride(s) you're recommending.

    * If you have a thread in mind where we've already discussed riding in certain areas, feel free to make a post here and include a link to that thread(s).

    * This should not be a "normal" thread with lots of back-and-forth. It should be primarily informational only.

    * Be nice, both in your posts and to riders out on the trail.

    With that said, start posting up your knowledge, wisdom and recommendations!

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    Foothills - Northeast Albq.

    (Don't everybody jump on this all at once now. )

    A bit of cut and copy from a recent thread:

    Foothills Trails and Map

    Below is a map excerpt of the North Foothills section. Get to Montgomery and Tramway, go east on Montomery to Glenwood Hills, follow to Trailhead and the parking area. Get on the bike and ride the trails north. Good, fairly easy riding with moderate climbs and smooth, sometimes pebbly trailbed.

    You can take the trails north all the way to the base of the Sandia Peak Tram.

    Usually dry and free of snow - unless it recently rained or snowed.

    It is a popular multi-use trail, so "heads up" for runners, hikers and other bikers.

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    You are aware that there is an mtbr trail review section are you not?

    Not trying to get you all fired up, but maybe trail reviews and directions are better suited to being placed there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyN
    You are aware that there is an mtbr trail review section are you not?

    Not trying to get you all fired up, but maybe trail reviews and directions are better suited to being placed there.
    Yeah, we don't have to be like those idiots in Phoenix....

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    Quote Originally Posted by perropirana
    Yeah, we don't have to be like those idiots in Phoenix....

    No doubt.

    I'm sure the sticky atop their board came from a selfish place not helpful one, as in they are sick and tired of having to dish out trail info and advice on a daily basis.

    I don't think we've reached that point yet here on the NM board.

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    Well since you guys broke the rules...

    From an "outsider's" perspective (having lived in Cedar Crest for less than half a year now), I gotta say, I wish NM had a thread as awesome as my buddy PaulB set up for AZ.

    I like to know every little detail of a place before I go riding there so I am prepared and know what I am getting into and I usually like to explore a new place solo at my own pace. I have been pretty frustrated trying to get information on some of the local riding spots. Far example I can find hardly any details on White Mesa. No trailmaps, no descriptions, and this minimal how to get there from the trail reviews:

    "Take NM 550 west from Bernalillo and head toward San Ysidro. Before you round the big turn heading into San Ysidro look for Cabezon Road to the south - turn here. follow Cabezon Road for 3-5 miles until you leave peublo lands and enter BLM land. Park at the first parking area you find."

    I wanna know exactly where I am going - I want to know how much climbing and how technical it is. I want to know if I should bring the hardtail or the FS bike. etc...

    The point of a thread like this is for the people who are in the know and always answering these questions to have a place to capture their knowledge and share it with the MTB community. The reviews section is really for a different purpose - for the community at large to provide thier feedback on the trails and rate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sodade
    From an "outsider's" perspective (having lived in Cedar Crest for less than half a year now), I gotta say, I wish NM had a thread as awesome as my buddy PaulB set up for AZ.

    I like to know every little detail of a place before I go riding there so I am prepared and know what I am getting into and I usually like to explore a new place solo at my own pace. I have been pretty frustrated trying to get information on some of the local riding spots. Far example I can find hardly any details on White Mesa. No trailmaps, no descriptions, and this minimal how to get there from the trail reviews:

    "Take NM 550 west from Bernalillo and head toward San Ysidro. Before you round the big turn heading into San Ysidro look for Cabezon Road to the south - turn here. follow Cabezon Road for 3-5 miles until you leave peublo lands and enter BLM land. Park at the first parking area you find."

    I wanna know exactly where I am going - I want to know how much climbing and how technical it is. I want to know if I should bring the hardtail or the FS bike. etc...

    The point of a thread like this is for the people who are in the know and always answering these questions to have a place to capture their knowledge and share it with the MTB community. The reviews section is really for a different purpose - for the community at large to provide thier feedback on the trails and rate them.
    Well I think I can speak for more than a few people on this board when I say if you had asked for a personal White Mesa guide you would have received many offers, and all the info you could possibly need about the place.

    I think that beats a sticky at the top of a message board, but that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sodade
    From an "outsider's" perspective (having lived in Cedar Crest for less than half a year now), I gotta say, I wish NM had a thread as awesome as my buddy PaulB set up for AZ.
    I haven't seen anything to make me think PaulB did the AZ sticky out of annoyance or lazyness. It seems to me his primary intentions are to be helpful.

    Quote Originally Posted by sodade
    I like to know every little detail of a place before I go riding there so I am prepared and know what I am getting into and I usually like to explore a new place solo at my own pace.
    I can be the same way. There have been plenty of times I've gone out with a sketch map and sparse directions with the intention of just poking around and exploring at my own pace and space. It's kind of fun (even if I one time me and my 2-Wheel Drive map managed to get lost and out in the dark on the Mighty Mule trail). Also, regardless of how helpful many folks are, sometimes you just can't arrange for the guided tour.

    Quote Originally Posted by sodade
    The point of a thread like this is for the people who are in the know and always answering these questions to have a place to capture their knowledge and share it with the MTB community. The reviews section is really for a different purpose - for the community at large to provide thier feedback on the trails and rate them.
    Pretty much sums it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyN
    You are aware that there is an mtbr trail review section are you not?

    Not trying to get you all fired up, but maybe trail reviews and directions are better suited to being placed there.
    I hadn't really thought about the upside/downside of the NM board vs the trail review. I saw that several visitors were logging onto the NM board with trail questions, and I thought a FAQ type of sticky post might be useful to them.

    Now that I have thought about it, the trail review section doesn't really seem to meet the need. It has limited composition and editing. I don't see were you can post in hyperlinks, maps and photos. It also doesn't seem to have the capability to weave narrative and graphics the way the board threads do. It looks to be more a condensed, soundbite, off the cuff sort of thing. I remember in times past trying to get trail info off of the review section and elsewhere on the internet. It is usually not so helpful, and I mainly get a bunch of scrap links to trails.com.

    One or more general information sticky posts seems to be a viable approach. As it is, someone planning a visit asks some question, locals give some answers and feedback, and the thread drifts down the post list. Time goes by and someone else asks a similar question.

    Some recent examples:

    X-post - Tell me about Albuquerque

    Good Beginner Trail in Albuqurque?

    Stranger in your midst

    Is there any Winter riding up there.

    If you had one day in ALB...

    Cloudcroft / Alamo for Christmas?

    Alb trip over Thankgiving Week; Ride options?

    Having some useful info in one easy to find spot could give info on these questions and, if needed, lead to more targeted inquiries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCdaveH
    I hadn't really thought about the upside/down side of the NM board vs the trail review. I saw that several visitors were logging onto the NM board with trail questions, and I thought a FAQ type of sticky post might be useful to them.

    Now that I have thought about it, the trail review section doesn't really seem to meet the need. It has limited composition and editing. I don't see were you can post in hyperlinks, maps and photos. It also doesn't seem to have the capability to weave narrative and graphics the way the board threads do. It looks to be more a condensed, soundbite, off the cuff sort of thing. I remember in times past trying to get trail info off of the review section and elsewhere on the internet. It is usually not so helpful, and I mainly get a bunch of scrap links to trails.com.

    One or more general information sticky posts seems to be a viable approach. As it is, someone planning a visit asks some question, locals give some answers and feedback, and the thread drifts down the post list. Time goes by and someone else asks a similar question.

    Some examples:

    X-post - Tell me about Albuquerque

    Good Beginner Trail in Albuqurque?

    Stranger in your midst

    Is there any Winter riding up there.

    If you had one day in ALB...

    Cloudcroft / Alamo for Christmas?

    Alb trip over Thankgiving Week; Ride options?

    Having some useful info in one easy to find spot could give info on these questions and, if needed, lead to more targeted inquiries.

    Just my $0.01

    I guess I agree with you, I haven't been cruising the NM board as much as I used to so I missed many of those "what to ride" posts that have popped up lately.

    That being said I still feel it will benefit the regulars on the NM board more than anyone else by relieving some of the frustration involved with answering the same questions over and over again.

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    White Mesa

    Quote Originally Posted by sodade
    Far example I can find hardly any details on White Mesa. No trailmaps, no descriptions, and this minimal how to get there from the trail reviews:
    White Mesa seems to be fast becoming a popular ride destination for visitors as well as locals thanks to FooMTB (Friends of Otero) whose work got the area reopened for recreational usage. The trails are beginner to intermediate with some advanced obstacles if one knows where to look. White Mesa seems to be the preferred destination for riders when conditions in the east mountains are less than desirable.
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    1) How do you get there?

    Quote Originally Posted by ishy
    I'm game to go- havent met ya'll yet, but was out with Rich today and he mentioned were are riding - please PM directions and times tho - just moved here and havent been to WM yet
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    From Santa Fe take I-40 South. Exit Bernalillo @ Hwy 550 to Farmington. Head West for about 22mi and look for Cabezon Rd on the left. At the fork make a left and follow the dirt road for about 6 miles p-lot on the right.


    2) What type of riding ie..what "steed" do I bring from my "stable"?

    I have done it on SS, AM, and DH bikes. I prefer the all mountain set up here if you know what to look for

    Quote Originally Posted by rsclimb
    I'm in if Susan wants to go. She can keep up easy. 8:30 may be better but we could do 8 if we had to. Don't care about direction. Choose best flow and best downhill sections. I'm only partially familiar with the ride. How long is the loop? She'll ask me lots of questions while I'm trying to convince her to ride with other poeple
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    The loop is probably somewhere in the 7-8 mile range. Fairly short. That is why, depending on the caliber or riders, we may want to extend it to two loops or double back from the first loop which is significantly more climbing.
    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate
    My other delima is whether to bring my Racer X 29er or my fully ridged singlespeed 29er....


    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    If you prefer SS Cedro, Otero, & WM are all SS friendly




    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate
    Thanksgiving Morning White Mesa Ride Pixxx!!1111

    Thanks to all the folks who showed up to ride with an out of town flat-lander.























    I brought the Racer X and enjoyed granny gear!!
    3) Route recomendations

    I prefer clockwise, but if you like punish yourself on the climbing try doing the out and back loop---CW to C-CW.

    Quote Originally Posted by SSweetleaf
    Where are you thinking about riding Sunday? I wouldn't mind tagging along if possible. Supposed to be nice weather.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    If you are askin' me, I would like to give the SS a go out at White Mesa. Maybe we could do a clockwise loop then double back for a counter clockwise
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    As a newbie to ABQ I appreciate the information that you guys provide regarding trails. I agree that it's difficult to find any info at the bike shops, so this is really my sole source of trail info.

    Any directions, maps, descriptions, etc. are greatly appreciated so I can explore NM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sodade
    From an "outsider's" perspective (having lived in Cedar Crest for less than half a year now), I gotta say, I wish NM had a thread as awesome as my buddy PaulB set up for AZ.

    I like to know every little detail of a place before I go riding there so I am prepared and know what I am getting into and I usually like to explore a new place solo at my own pace. I have been pretty frustrated trying to get information on some of the local riding spots. Far example I can find hardly any details on White Mesa. No trailmaps, no descriptions, and this minimal how to get there from the trail reviews:

    "Take NM 550 west from Bernalillo and head toward San Ysidro. Before you round the big turn heading into San Ysidro look for Cabezon Road to the south - turn here. follow Cabezon Road for 3-5 miles until you leave peublo lands and enter BLM land. Park at the first parking area you find."

    I wanna know exactly where I am going - I want to know how much climbing and how technical it is. I want to know if I should bring the hardtail or the FS bike. etc...

    The point of a thread like this is for the people who are in the know and always answering these questions to have a place to capture their knowledge and share it with the MTB community. The reviews section is really for a different purpose - for the community at large to provide thier feedback on the trails and rate them.
    The best advice for someone from another area is to post and ask "anyone riding today"
    in that way you avoid all this crap. most of us are willing to take new riders to the area and show them around. Which is more than I can say about some other areas. as what to bring and how technical the area is...bro it's mountain biking not road riding.... the more technical the better. My point is if you have a bad attitude (which you don't have) you are not going to get very far, if not ask around or search some of the past topics about trail disclosures in Albuquerque.
    Have fun.

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    Some helpful homework here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Littlebear73
    I believe the whole enchilada was over what trails are found in the LC area.

    It appears we've wandered a bit off the trail.

    The trail review site on here has pretty good descriptions of what the standard rides are: Dona Ana, Roblados, A mountain, etc... There is also a LC to El Paso trail ride that has a really good write up either here in the NM forum or in Passion. Here are some websites that may help.

    http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb-rides.html

    http://content.elpasotimes.com/outdo...ng/index.shtml

    http://www.singletracks.com/php/trail.php?id=1849

    http://www.nmmagazine.com/cgi-bin/li...aming%2FBiking

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    Don't Forget...

    Socorro, NM

    Here is a link to the trail guide used for the Fat Tire Festival.

    http://www.socorro.com/fattire/trails.html

    It's pretty good. Loaded with rides near, around Socorro and Magdalena, NM

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    Trails in NW Albuquerque??

    Does anyone know of any decent trails in NW Albuquerque?

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    Can you be a little more specific?

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    I'm new to ABQ and live in the NW. I just wanted to see if there were any trails nearby that I could hit after work. I've only found a couple out by Paseo del Norte and Paradise, but they're primarily sand.

    Any guidance would be appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by NE2NM
    I'm new to ABQ and live in the NW. I just wanted to see if there were any trails nearby that I could hit after work. I've only found a couple out by Paseo del Norte and Paradise, but they're primarily sand.

    Any guidance would be appreciated

    I don't know of any trails on the west side other than the Volcanos but, I here they're nothing great.

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    Are there any trailheads for the Volcanoes on Unser or out by Double Eagle Airport on Paseo Del Volcan?

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    looks like i need to reload my NM Ride Pix again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyN
    You are aware that there is an mtbr trail review section are you not?

    Not trying to get you all fired up, but maybe trail reviews and directions are better suited to being placed there.
    Some of my best rides have been solo ventures on trails listed in the "trail review" section. The forum is best for meeting others to hit the trails with. Guided rides are sometimes better for less adventurous riders. Either way, I personally am stoked that people are hitting both sections of the web for more info.

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    Hi all.
    I'll be in Abq for most of June and will be looking for some kindly souls to show me some sweet trails. From what I've read y'all sound mighty generous in that regard. I'm staying with my brother in law in the NE Heights so I figure the foothills are a given. Should be a good way to get some lungs back 'cause I'm going to be pretty unfit... (Too much time at work lately.) Otherwise I'm all for doing shuttles or chairlifts, so what are the best bets? Sandia Peak seems to get mixed reviews. I'm on a bullit with a lightweight wheel set and ideally I'd like to hit some good descents that don't require the ability to hit massive doubles. If anyone is planning a trip to Angel Fire I'd be interested in tagging along. Also going to be in Farmington and Durango for a bit. PM me if you're happy to play tourguide if you ever make it to NZ I'll return the favour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bshallard
    Hi all.
    I'll be in Abq for most of June and will be looking for some kindly souls to show me some sweet trails. From what I've read y'all sound mighty generous in that regard. I'm staying with my brother in law in the NE Heights so I figure the foothills are a given. Should be a good way to get some lungs back 'cause I'm going to be pretty unfit... (Too much time at work lately.) Otherwise I'm all for doing shuttles or chairlifts, so what are the best bets? Sandia Peak seems to get mixed reviews. I'm on a bullit with a lightweight wheel set and ideally I'd like to hit some good descents that don't require the ability to hit massive doubles. If anyone is planning a trip to Angel Fire I'd be interested in tagging along. Also going to be in Farmington and Durango for a bit. PM me if you're happy to play tourguide if you ever make it to NZ I'll return the favour.
    Post up as the date approaches for conditions and recomendations. What type of bike will you bring?

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    I'll be bringing my bullit. Set up light for general all mountain riding. I'm taking off the swingarm and packing the bike in a suitcase, and will have a set of Mavic Crossrides waiting for me. Also a set of Bomber AM1 forks which I will need to install before I do any riding. Recommendations for a good bike workshop in NE Heights would be a help. I'll need them to cut the steerer tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bshallard
    I'll be bringing my bullit. Set up light for general all mountain riding. I'm taking off the swingarm and packing the bike in a suitcase, and will have a set of Mavic Crossrides waiting for me. Also a set of Bomber AM1 forks which I will need to install before I do any riding. Recommendations for a good bike workshop in NE Heights would be a help. I'll need them to cut the steerer tube.

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    Fantastic! I will take you up on that for sure. Have you got a shock pump too? Hot damn I'm looking forward to this trip!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bshallard
    Fantastic! I will take you up on that for sure. Have you got a shock pump too? Hot damn I'm looking forward to this trip!
    Yes I do. You do not need a shock pump for the AM 1, unless it is the SL. Either way, I have an SL and I can also help you set it up. The pressures recommended by the factory are incorrect. We will get ya goin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Yes I do. You do not need a shock pump for the AM 1, unless it is the SL. Either way, I have an SL and I can also help you set it up. The pressures recommended by the factory are incorrect. We will get ya goin'.
    Make sure you have the base plate/crown race for your headset, a starnut or stemlock, and the appropriate spacers.

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    hi folks. Just heading down to the Taos/Santa Fe/Los Alamos area next weekend. Only plan is one night at ojo caliente. Wondering about rides to do with the gf toward ojo, maybe camping in that vicinity as well?

    Looking at 8-15 mile rides, moderate to pumping climbs, cruisy singletrack more than technical drops.

    Thanks for any advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Yes I do. You do not need a shock pump for the AM 1, unless it is the SL. Either way, I have an SL and I can also help you set it up. The pressures recommended by the factory are incorrect. We will get ya goin'.
    There's that Performance Bike employee knowledge deficit again.

    The AM1 is one side air and one side coil, and does require a shock pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyN
    There's that Performance Bike employee knowledge deficit again.

    The AM1 is one side air and one side coil, and does require a shock pump.
    I never even noticed it on mine before I converted to the SL. Either way I have a shock pump and if he needs it he is welcome to use it.

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    I've just had a closer look at the specs of the fork I bought. I thought it was probably an air fork due to the 5 pound weight. Turns out it is probably identical internally to my existing fork which is an '05 Z1FR with 20mm axle. When I set that up I just let all the air out, as even with 5psi in there it was oversprung for my weight. I've slammed it into the ground nice and hard without it bottoming harshly. Anyway, setting up this new fork should be a no-brainer. It's gonna be interesting to see how much flex there is in the steering. I've grown to rely on the directness of the 20mm set-up.
    I'll have all the bits I need and the exact measurement of the steerer etc. We'll have to shim up the brakes for the new hubs. Does anyone have a Hope brake mount facing tool? It makes a big difference in getting the brakes running true and quiet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bshallard
    I've just had a closer look at the specs of the fork I bought. I thought it was probably an air fork due to the 5 pound weight. Turns out it is probably identical internally to my existing fork which is an '05 Z1FR with 20mm axle. When I set that up I just let all the air out, as even with 5psi in there it was oversprung for my weight. I've slammed it into the ground nice and hard without it bottoming harshly. Anyway, setting up this new fork should be a no-brainer. It's gonna be interesting to see how much flex there is in the steering. I've grown to rely on the directness of the 20mm set-up.
    I'll have all the bits I need and the exact measurement of the steerer etc. We'll have to shim up the brakes for the new hubs. Does anyone have a Hope brake mount facing tool? It makes a big difference in getting the brakes running true and quiet.
    Interesting. I just bought a formula brake mount for my XTR 180mm rotor and it is far from quiet. Do you know if they can face the formula mounts also? Maybe you can look at it for me.

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    It's the IS mounts on the fork that you face. Not an issue on post mount as far as I can see. The IS tabs on my Z1 fork took quite a lot of facing. Hope make a jig that clamps in the dropouts (regular or 20mm) and it has guide holes to mount a rose cutter that faces the tabs. You would be amazed at how far out of true they are from the factory. It probably isn't an issue for brakes that use a mounting bracket, but my Hopes mount directly to the tabs.
    My brakes run a lot quieter than my brother's Hope brakes, and my tabs are faced and his aren't. My local bike mechanic has one of these. I was vaguely wondering if any local Abq mechanics had one. Not really a big deal though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bshallard
    It's the IS mounts on the fork that you face. Not an issue on post mount as far as I can see. The IS tabs on my Z1 fork took quite a lot of facing. Hope make a jig that clamps in the dropouts (regular or 20mm) and it has guide holes to mount a rose cutter that faces the tabs. You would be amazed at how far out of true they are from the factory. It probably isn't an issue for brakes that use a mounting bracket, but my Hopes mount directly to the tabs.
    My brakes run a lot quieter than my brother's Hope brakes, and my tabs are faced and his aren't. My local bike mechanic has one of these. I was vaguely wondering if any local Abq mechanics had one. Not really a big deal though.
    Cool thanks. There is a local shop that may have the tool you need. Fat Tire Cycles. 505.345.9005

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Cool thanks. There is a local shop that may have the tool you need. Fat Tire Cycles. 505.345.9005
    Why swing by an overpriced IBD (all IBD's are overpriced after all) like Fat Tire. Why not just go to Performance. Surely they have all the right tools and training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarvis
    Why swing by an overpriced IBD (all IBD's are overpriced after all) like Fat Tire. Why not just go to Performance. Surely they have all the right tools and training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarvis
    Why swing by an overpriced IBD (all IBD's are overpriced after all) like Fat Tire. Why not just go to Performance. Surely they have all the right tools and training.

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    Wrong thread d!ckhead We really should limit this thread to those who are interested in posting and requesting trail info.. If you have something to say about Performance post it in the appropriate place HERE...My bad on the previous posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by makachut
    Now that's funny,does performance carry NEXT brand bikes, toto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Wrong thread d!ckhead We really should limit this thread to those who are interested in posting and requesting trail info.. If you have something to say about Performance post it in the appropriate place HERE...My bad on the previous posts


    So it was fine when you were posting OT, but now Sarvis is a d!ckhead huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Wrong thread d!ckhead We really should limit this thread to those who are interested in posting and requesting trail info.. If you have something to say about Performance post it in the appropriate place HERE...My bad on the previous posts
    Hmmm seems that my reply struck a nerve. Though it was an (couched) honest question.

    BFWIW, I didn't start this OT section of the thread, I just replied to it.

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    I'll take "d!ckhead," although I prefer "Right B@stard."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarvis
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    Chama

    Posted a thread for trail infomation in the Chama area, then i saw this thread. Any ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pivotpoint
    Posted a thread for trail infomation in the Chama area, then i saw this thread. Any ideas?
    Looking to stop half way for a break on the way to Angel Fire. Thanks.
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    Thanks.

    Well, I'm back home after a month in NM. Got some decent riding in largely thanks to Eric B. Thanks man... Come out to NZ and I'll return the favour. It was an interesting change from the riding locally. Lots more rocks and slippery trail surfaces than I'm used to, but I enjoyed the change. The altitude was definitely hurting me, especially on the technical climbs. Big thanks to Eric and Greg for the shuttle run on Faulty. That was fun. Also to the various other riders I met on the trails around and about. All super friendly... I was certainly never lonely.
    Here are a few pics: Dad in the foothills, Eric on 10K, Me on Faulty, and another of me on the Colorado Trail for good measure.

    Final comment: That green chile is some great stuff. Don't ever take that for granted.

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    Guidance..arriving 9/23/07

    Hi gang:
    I'm new here and this is my first foray into the world of internet posts, so please forgive any unintentional breaches of etiquette.... However, I seek guidance, as I'll be coming to Santa Fe for the week of Sept. 23 (finally, a vacation, woo hoo!) and would love to meet some of you folks out there to tag along for a few novice/intermediate rides. I'm from the DC area and a friend here recommended some spots out there to try, as long as the altitude doesn't get me...! My bike is a Trek Fuel 98... feel free to give me a shout w/ advice, contact info, questions...etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by armlock11
    Hi gang:
    I'm new here and this is my first foray into the world of internet posts, so please forgive any unintentional breaches of etiquette.... However, I seek guidance, as I'll be coming to Santa Fe for the week of Sept. 23 (finally, a vacation, woo hoo!) and would love to meet some of you folks out there to tag along for a few novice/intermediate rides. I'm from the DC area and a friend here recommended some spots out there to try, as long as the altitude doesn't get me...! My bike is a Trek Fuel 98... feel free to give me a shout w/ advice, contact info, questions...etc.
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    If you're going to be in Santa Fe I'd recommend you start out with the dale Ball trails, central and north sections. Those trails are pretty mellow, and don't have any heinous climbs, just short ups and downs. Another option is to ride Winsor from Tesuque, many stream crossings but much more forgiving than riding from Chamisa, and you can just turn around and coast out when you've had your fill.

    Unfortunately, if you are from sea level and novice/intermediate in experience, the altitude will probably be a hindrance. The two options I gave you are IMO the easiest rides around SF, with the exception of La Tierra which isn't worth doing IMO, and the rail trail which I know nothing about (except that it's easy).

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    thanks Andy and Todd and others for your help and previously posted recommendations in this thread - way cool - looking forward to getting out there! And I'll ease in to acclimating to the altitude w/ a 'rita or two when I fist arrive.
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    Slightly off subject, but how about bike rental between ABQ and Santa Fe. Any with better equipment?

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    Alamo Canyon Beta

    Hey New Mexico,

    I occasionally get to visit Alamogordo, my wifeís hometown. I have not pedaled the Alamogordo area yet; however, I think weíre going to throw in the bikes on our next trip. Iíve been eyeing Alamo Canyon to Cloudcroft. If feasible, I would like to try and ride up toward Cloudcroft via Alamo Canyon and back down the same trail. Has anyone done the ride from below? How about Dog Canyon, is this trail open to bikes?

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    Andy nailed the ride suggestions on the head - and I'd add a REALLY easy but pretty ride at St. Johns College - up the arroyo (desert version of a drainage ditch) and back ~ 5-6 miles total from the p-lot.

    Dale Ball North and Central will be the best bet fun-wise. South gets VERY steep and technical very quickly. Rail Trail is more like a tour route - but fun if you leave at 1030-1045AM as you'll be just ahead of the train and can 'race it'. Once you hit a big grade crossing near the very end at the highway - it's a PITA to get to the depot, as you have to ride on the road an extra 2 miles to get that last 1/2 mile as the crow flies....

    If you want a moderate 2-track HIGH altitude ride, Aspen Vista Rd. climbs from 10k to 12.2K in 6 miles on a dirt road. Stunning views, and a hell of an accomplishment to brag about back home!

    Quote Originally Posted by armlock11
    I'll ease in to acclimating to the altitude w/ a 'rita or two when I fist arrive.
    NOT a good idea. Ease into acclimating with a sh1tload of water instead. Dale Ball and St. Johns start at about 7200 - 7300 feet above sea level. This is no joke. Throw in our arid/dry climate, and ANY alcohol + exertion + lack of red blood cells in all but the best conditioned athlete spells trouble. Save the 'Rita Drinking 'till the end!

    Anyhow - post up a new thread in the NM forum when you have some time(s) blocked out, and we'll see who can meet up with you for an insiders guided ride(s).
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    thnx again Andy & glenz... j/k on the ritas, esp. since i arrived on Mon. w/ ...ummm... a stomach thing.... I'll see if I can give it a run (pardon the pun) thurs...
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    I have a question. I rode South boundary last weekend. I didn't have enough time to do Elliot Barker like I wanted to. I started at the covered wagon headed up to Garcia Park on the road. I rode east on SBT for about a half an hourt to 45 minutes. I crossed one creek, passed an overlook on the south side of the trail, and went through a gate after the overlook. I had to turn around (time restrictions) shortly after the gate at a large evergreen crossing the trail. The tree was large and about 2-3 feet above the trail. There was no trail around the tree yet. Question: Does anyone know roughly how far, from this crude description, it is East to Osha? And did I ride most, or any of Heaven on earth?

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    Don't forget South Boundary. Done as a shuttle or an out and back, perfect in the fall.

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    Dave, I tried to contact you via your e-mail with no luck, so I will try the forum. I raced for the first time at the Hustle in September and am hooked. What does it take to compete in the NMORS. Do I just need to show up and race or is there something special I need to do to register. Any assistance greatly appreciated. Also, when does the final 2008
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    Quote Originally Posted by srt705
    Dave, I tried to contact you via your e-mail with no luck, so I will try the forum. I raced for the first time at the Hustle in September and am hooked. What does it take to compete in the NMORS. Do I just need to show up and race or is there something special I need to do to register. Any assistance greatly appreciated. Also, when does the final 2008
    NMORS schedule come out? Thanks srt705
    I'm not sure what email addy you tried, but I dont recall an email I've not responded to.

    Best addy = gotdirtnm at gmail dot com

    Just show up to the series races. We track racers by name and category over the series events through the season. Results get posted at www.nmcycling.org

    Here is a sketch of the schedule (dirt events are NMORS).

    The final schedule is still in the hashing stage. We try to formally announce the "final" schedule in early January.

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    More Pix Threads of trails in and around Albuquerque:

    White Mesa: White Mesa Trail Photos
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    Aaah, finally found you guys!

    I've been wondering where all the NM mountain bikers with day jobs spend all their time! Good on ya!

    Just moved to the north NM area (Los Alamos to be specific). I really appreciate the beta you guys are putting out there as far as trails go, can't wait until spring to find my favorite! On that note, I'm going stir crazy right now! Any suggestions on ridable trails in the Rio Grande valley between here and Santa Fe? I grew up in Grand Junction, so I know what a little moisture can do to clay terrain. What will I find around here? Sandy clay, clayey sand, clayey shale? Should I just suck it up and go for a road ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revotseel
    I've been wondering where all the NM mountain bikers with day jobs spend all their time! Good on ya!

    Just moved to the north NM area (Los Alamos to be specific). I really appreciate the beta you guys are putting out there as far as trails go, can't wait until spring to find my favorite! On that note, I'm going stir crazy right now! Any suggestions on ridable trails in the Rio Grande valley between here and Santa Fe? I grew up in Grand Junction, so I know what a little moisture can do to clay terrain. What will I find around here? Sandy clay, clayey sand, clayey shale? Should I just suck it up and go for a road ride?

    Cheers!
    In Nambe there are some trails on BLM land. People from LA know about them,I've run into riders from the tough riders, which is a local LA bike club, out there on those trails.To get there you would drive thru Nambe as if your taking the High road to Taos. after you turn thru town and pass the old food coop on your right you will see a sign saying you are leaving reservation land, you'll come to a dirt turn around on your left that's where you park.the trails start on the other side of the gate or you you can cross the road and ride up to the radio tower too. Good luck. These directions are vague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revotseel
    I've been wondering where all the NM mountain bikers with day jobs spend all their time! Good on ya!

    Just moved to the north NM area (Los Alamos to be specific). I really appreciate the beta you guys are putting out there as far as trails go, can't wait until spring to find my favorite! On that note, I'm going stir crazy right now! Any suggestions on ridable trails in the Rio Grande valley between here and Santa Fe? I grew up in Grand Junction, so I know what a little moisture can do to clay terrain. What will I find around here? Sandy clay, clayey sand, clayey shale? Should I just suck it up and go for a road ride?

    Cheers!
    Well, LA and the Jemez mountains has a mind-boggling number of trails. So you won't be bored once the snow melts. For trails in and around LA, pick up Craig Martin's book "Los Alamos Trails". Otowi station (next to Bradbury museum) usually stocks them. It contains information on almost all the trails near LA and White Rock. Good place to get started.

    Trails up above LA have little soil on them...mainly due to widespread erosion after the fire. So they are mainly rock/gravel and drain quickly in the summer months.

    Right now, everything has snow on it that I've seen. The trails just SW of White rock might be clear. Potrillo Canyon, Water Canyon, Powerline and maybe another trail make a loop of maybe 6-8 miles back in on DOE land. Bikes weren't allowed on this for awhile, but I've heard they opened it up to bikes...still trying to verify that. Best bet is to drop the tire pressure and ride on top. That's what I've been doin.

    If you're willing to ride on snow, bring your bike in to work and we'll hook up on a lunchtime ride. There are a number of trails that start near the guard shack/Camp May road intersection. Popular lunchtime rides for the LANL crowd...shoot me a message if you'd like to come.

    Edit: When the trails get snow covered, most people in LA head to White Mesa.
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    anyone got any suggestions for southern new mexico ... like near i10?

    I would be coming in march, after the arizona spring fling. My plan is to go to south padre island texas for spring break ... so if anyone has any i10 and i37 texas suggestions that would be most helpful because ill do most of my riding on the way to texas, a friend is flying in and were driving back to northern california together and he doesnt ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melt
    anyone got any suggestions for southern new mexico ... like near i10?

    I would be coming in march, after the arizona spring fling. My plan is to go to south padre island texas for spring break ... so if anyone has any i10 and i37 texas suggestions that would be most helpful because ill do most of my riding on the way to texas, a friend is flying in and were driving back to northern california together and he doesnt ride.
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    thank you so much ... its still up in the air if im gonna roll to south padre ... still trying to figure out if the week my spring break is is going to be poppin seeing as texas is off the week before.
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    Hello,

    We are heading west from Montreal, QC and heading towards Sedona and Flagstaff. On our way we will stop by to do the White Mesa Trail. I was wondering what would be the closest campground?

    Is it possible to camp (sleep in the truck) right at the trailhead?

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    Hello,

    We are heading west from Montreal, QC and heading towards Sedona and Flagstaff. On our way we will stop by to do the White Mesa Trail. I was wondering what would be the closest campground?

    Is it possible to camp (sleep in the truck) right at the trailhead?

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    They lock the gates. There are a few spots along the road where you could camp. You can get more miles riding the likes of Cedro or Otero or the East Mtns (closer to May) and there are semi-improved campgrounds nearby and at the TH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    They lock the gates. There are a few spots along the road where you could camp. You can get more miles riding the likes of Cedro or Otero or the East Mtns (closer to May) and there are semi-improved campgrounds nearby and at the TH.
    We did Otero a few years ago on another trip, when the situation with the military was unclear. We camped right on top of the mountain (Cedro Peak?) because the campground was not open.

    Thanks for the 411.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jozz
    Hello,

    We are heading west from Montreal, QC and heading towards Sedona and Flagstaff. On our way we will stop by to do the White Mesa Trail. I was wondering what would be the closest campground?

    J.
    There are numerous campgrounds between San Ysidro and Jemez Springs on NM4. I'm not sure if these are the closest campgrounds or not, but I'd estimate they're no more than 10 miles up from San Ysidro. I've never camped there, I just see lots of people camping them as I make my way down to WM from Los Alamos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jozz
    We did Otero a few years ago on another trip, when the situation with the military was unclear. We camped right on top of the mountain (Cedro Peak?) because the campground was not open.

    Thanks for the 411.

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    Then Cabezon Rd would be your best option for camping close to WM.

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    There are some trail heads on the west side...be prepared for sand and cacti...climbing the volcanos is good stuff riding down the other side is even better...
    Take Unser to the top of Unser south of the new high School...you will find a KB home neighborhood you will see the water tanks follow it to the back side...park in the sales office...follow the road toward the volcanoes you will see a dirt jeep trail get on it...ride bikes west on a jeep trail...u will come to a steel gate go thru it travel on the dirt jeep trail till you get under the power lines merge right going NNW...you will pass around the northern most volcano...there is a small trail leading up to the top...CHARGE!!!!
    Great view from the top....go over the othe side...be aware of loose volcanic rock on the western DH side....pedal your A$$ off this will take you to the next volcano easily...go over it to the next one...there is cave at the top its about 45 feet deep...the DH ride is pretty good...watch for the sand when the trail turns East... Pedal..more hard pack and good speed....this will take you to the steel gate again...go thru it and enjoy the speed and dodging those rocks you pedaled past earlier....R/T 5 miles...If you want more pick a trail and go for it....WARNING do not go into the sand pit in the middle of the big field west of the volcanoes but before the steel gate...deep sand and a waste of time....the jeep trail isnt pretty by any account but it is a quick ride if your pressed for time...verizon cell phones work out there

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    My wife and daughter and I are driving out to Santa Fe for a conference next week. I definitely want to get in some rides, but have decided to leave my bike behind. Any recs for shops that rent bikes in either city?

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    Sport Systems 505.296.9111 ask for Frank. Just a suggestion though, make sure your are interested in a 'demo' not a rental. That way you get the pick of the litter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuntieAPE
    My wife and daughter and I are driving out to Santa Fe for a conference next week. I definitely want to get in some rides, but have decided to leave my bike behind. Any recs for shops that rent bikes in either city?

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    family and I waz tak'n a yurly vacashon in the new Mexico territory.Hour mane fokus waz to ride our Mountan bikes.Sur,we rode plenty of single trak and lots of purty views to be had by all. Butt,at evry trail hed we parked our car at,we gots ******.Seems the locals like ot of towners .Strangely enuf,we seemed to fit rite in at one town named Sockoral,friendly bike shop owner there, too.So my sujestone is to vacashon in Sockoral,New Mexico

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    I'll be visiting shortly, a weeklong camping trip with family. The wife and I have a Dale Ball trailride planned. We're camping on the Rio Grande South of Taos, in the BLM area, so I'll check out the short trails there too.

    Question is, in Los Alamos we are camping at Bandelier, at the group campsite I believe (up above Bandelier). Are there any trails within biking distance? With family along, got to minimize the overhead. We're bordered by the monument on the South, and government land to the North. Looks like NF land West, anything other than FS roads? Looks like all the good stuff in LA is immediately around town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny boy
    I'll be visiting shortly, a weeklong camping trip with family. The wife and I have a Dale Ball trailride planned. We're camping on the Rio Grande South of Taos, in the BLM area, so I'll check out the short trails there too.

    Question is, in Los Alamos we are camping at Bandelier, at the group campsite I believe (up above Bandelier). Are there any trails within biking distance? With family along, got to minimize the overhead. We're bordered by the monument on the South, and government land to the North. Looks like NF land West, anything other than FS roads? Looks like all the good stuff in LA is immediately around town.

    Thanks for any help...
    If you're at the Ponderosa campground, I think Pajarito and Nail Trail are right up the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny boy
    Question is, in Los Alamos we are camping at Bandelier, at the group campsite I believe (up above Bandelier). Are there any trails within biking distance? With family along, got to minimize the overhead. We're bordered by the monument on the South, and government land to the North. Looks like NF land West, anything other than FS roads? Looks like all the good stuff in LA is immediately around town.

    Thanks for any help...
    As you pointed out, You've got Bandelier to the S and LANL (DOE) to the N. Both prohibit biking. Closest trails are going to be found just W of NM 501 about 5 miles up NM4. To get to these trails, you'll need to ride about 5 miles up NM 4. It's uphill a bit, but is rather common for people to ride from the lab down to Bandelier and back at lunch. The closest trailhead is Water Canyon at 35.838655, -106.360043 (Copy those coords in Google maps). You'll also hit the S. Perimeter trail at 35.846713, -106.357430, Valle Canyon trail at 35.852122, -106.354973, the other end of S. Perimeter at 35.866678, -106.353074, Pajarito Canyon at 35.867947, -106.352715, and Nail trail at 35.869452, -106.351492.

    So if you don't mind the 5 mile road ride to get to those trails, there's probably 20 miles of trails to explore in that area just W of 501. There are more in/around town, so shoot me a PM if you'd like to know their location.
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    I need a little insight into Angel Fire. I am visiting Angel Fire for a week in July, and will definitely be bringing the bike along. My home is South Texas, where the temperature ranges from hot to hellishly hot. Today it was 99 and as I am typing this (12:24 AM) it is still 85. I am wondering what kind of gear to pack for week of biking at Angel Fire. I am excited to finally bike somewhere other than Texas. I usually ride XC on a FS rig since thats about all there is around here. What kind of trails are out there? Where is the must see trails? I was looking at the trail map and it looks like all the XC stuff is on the back side of the mountain. How hard is it to get up the mountain without the lift? Sorry for being a lil long winded. Any insight will be greatly appreciated. Oh I ride a scott spark, July 11-17. Thanks again

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    Come prepared for all conditions. It could hail, rain, snow, high winds. Best to be prepared for any situation. Weather is very unpredictable at elevation. Right now the rains tend to roll around in the afternoon so be prepared to ride as early as you can if your doing all-day epics. As far as trails, I'm not the best source for that at AF. I will say that the lift assisted DH is top notch.
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    Is the DH doable on a XC bike, and how hard is it to skip the lift and head up the trail on your own power?

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    The DH at AF is not recommended for XC. The XC trails are pretty fun on their own. There is a super-d course, but I'm not sure what kind of shape it's in.

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    Some more info for Alamagordo and Cloudcroft
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    Visiting from Dallas 21-26 looking to ride near ABQ/Jemez Springs

    Coming back to the Jemez for the holidays and figured it might be fun to bring the bike and get away for a few hours, weather permitting. Never rode in New Mexico, but White Mesa is right near where I'm staying and looks like it could be a lot of fun. Anyone riding around that time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwightkruse
    Coming back to the Jemez for the holidays and figured it might be fun to bring the bike and get away for a few hours, weather permitting. Never rode in New Mexico, but White Mesa is right near where I'm staying and looks like it could be a lot of fun. Anyone riding around that time?
    I can, let me know when via PM and I'll see if I can meet you out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwightkruse
    Coming back to the Jemez for the holidays and figured it might be fun to bring the bike and get away for a few hours, weather permitting. Never rode in New Mexico, but White Mesa is right near where I'm staying and looks like it could be a lot of fun. Anyone riding around that time?

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    Humm... can anyone confirm this poster's claim..??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate
    Humm... can anyone confirm this poster's claim..??

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    *and what does Google have to say about Whittington Center, Raton, NM.

    Hmm, as long as they keep the singletrack away from the rifle range, I'm sure it's fine.

    (aside from the 33,000 acres that thread is talking about, it's not too clear that it's the same place??)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kberkle
    I have a question. I rode South boundary last weekend. I didn't have enough time to do Elliot Barker like I wanted to. I started at the covered wagon headed up to Garcia Park on the road. I rode east on SBT for about a half an hourt to 45 minutes. I crossed one creek, passed an overlook on the south side of the trail, and went through a gate after the overlook. I had to turn around (time restrictions) shortly after the gate at a large evergreen crossing the trail. The tree was large and about 2-3 feet above the trail. There was no trail around the tree yet. Question: Does anyone know roughly how far, from this crude description, it is East to Osha? And did I ride most, or any of Heaven on earth?
    This is old but never got answered, you were about four miles from Osha Pass, where EBT meets the south boundary and Jaracita. You rode a small section of Heaven on Earth. Come back and try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcupach
    There are some trail heads on the west side...be prepared for sand and cacti...climbing the volcanos is good stuff riding down the other side is even better...
    Take Unser to the top of Unser south of the new high School...you will find a KB home neighborhood you will see the water tanks follow it to the back side...park in the sales office...follow the road toward the volcanoes you will see a dirt jeep trail get on it...ride bikes west on a jeep trail...u will come to a steel gate go thru it travel on the dirt jeep trail till you get under the power lines merge right going NNW...you will pass around the northern most volcano...there is a small trail leading up to the top...CHARGE!!!!
    Great view from the top....go over the othe side...be aware of loose volcanic rock on the western DH side....pedal your A$$ off this will take you to the next volcano easily...go over it to the next one...there is cave at the top its about 45 feet deep...the DH ride is pretty good...watch for the sand when the trail turns East... Pedal..more hard pack and good speed....this will take you to the steel gate again...go thru it and enjoy the speed and dodging those rocks you pedaled past earlier....R/T 5 miles...If you want more pick a trail and go for it....WARNING do not go into the sand pit in the middle of the big field west of the volcanoes but before the steel gate...deep sand and a waste of time....the jeep trail isnt pretty by any account but it is a quick ride if your pressed for time...verizon cell phones work out there
    I want to try this trail but couldn't find it based off these instructions. Anyone know street names or anything else? Thanks.

    Also, When is someone going to WM. I want to go but being that it'd be a first for me I was hoping I could ride along the first go round. Anyone?

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    big rides in santa fe???

    MY BAD I"M SORRY

    change of plans ok, didn't realize that you guys are all bigger gay lords than the queers that hang out on the colorado forum

    I'll just stick with my kind and I'm headed to durango instead of nm
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    Santa Gay? Yep, that'll get the locals to step right up and help you out. Nice touch. Hey, you're clearly too much of a stud for the tame bike paths that we have around here. Probably best you don't even make the trip, Mr. Awseome; you'll no doubt be disappointed.

    Quote Originally Posted by ripper roo
    I'm spoiled rotten with single track out my door so I'm hard to please.
    Not into being a gaper, taking pictures, having lunch, and wacking off in the woods. Just want to put my head down and ride to see if there is any real mtb in santa gay.

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