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    VISITORS READ HERE FIRST: Local riding advice

    A chiller day at the office, so I'll work on this. An idea borrowed from our fine AZ friends.

    I'll see about getting it Sticky-fied.

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    This thread is directed primarily at out of area visitors as well as new riders who don't know where else to ride in our glorious state besides their favorite city park trail.

    To our visitors: We've created this thread to hopefully answer the most obvious questions you have about riding in our state. This should help respond to the "I'm coming to New Mexico where should I ride?" type questions.

    If it still doesn't answer your questions, then maybe we need to add more stuff to our sticky! Go ahead and post to the board if you still have questions.

    Thread rules:

    * Locals, please post your personal recommendations for your personal favorite rides. Include enough detail that the reader can determine the ride's difficulty, trailhead directions, ride directions, and seasonal considerations.

    * Do not comment on someone else's recommendations unless it is to clarify or expand on what someone else is recommending.

    * This is not the thread to recommend or criticize local bike shops. If you include information about a bike shop, please make sure it's related to the ride(s) you're recommending.

    * If you have a thread in mind where we've already discussed riding in certain areas, feel free to make a post here and include a link to that thread(s).

    * This should not be a "normal" thread with lots of back-and-forth. It should be primarily informational only.

    * Be nice, both in your posts and to riders out on the trail.

    With that said, start posting up your knowledge, wisdom and recommendations!

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    Foothills - Northeast Albq.

    (Don't everybody jump on this all at once now. )

    A bit of cut and copy from a recent thread:

    Foothills Trails and Map

    Below is a map excerpt of the North Foothills section. Get to Montgomery and Tramway, go east on Montomery to Glenwood Hills, follow to Trailhead and the parking area. Get on the bike and ride the trails north. Good, fairly easy riding with moderate climbs and smooth, sometimes pebbly trailbed.

    You can take the trails north all the way to the base of the Sandia Peak Tram.

    Usually dry and free of snow - unless it recently rained or snowed.

    It is a popular multi-use trail, so "heads up" for runners, hikers and other bikers.

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    You are aware that there is an mtbr trail review section are you not?

    Not trying to get you all fired up, but maybe trail reviews and directions are better suited to being placed there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyN
    You are aware that there is an mtbr trail review section are you not?

    Not trying to get you all fired up, but maybe trail reviews and directions are better suited to being placed there.
    Yeah, we don't have to be like those idiots in Phoenix....

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    Quote Originally Posted by perropirana
    Yeah, we don't have to be like those idiots in Phoenix....

    No doubt.

    I'm sure the sticky atop their board came from a selfish place not helpful one, as in they are sick and tired of having to dish out trail info and advice on a daily basis.

    I don't think we've reached that point yet here on the NM board.

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    Well since you guys broke the rules...

    From an "outsider's" perspective (having lived in Cedar Crest for less than half a year now), I gotta say, I wish NM had a thread as awesome as my buddy PaulB set up for AZ.

    I like to know every little detail of a place before I go riding there so I am prepared and know what I am getting into and I usually like to explore a new place solo at my own pace. I have been pretty frustrated trying to get information on some of the local riding spots. Far example I can find hardly any details on White Mesa. No trailmaps, no descriptions, and this minimal how to get there from the trail reviews:

    "Take NM 550 west from Bernalillo and head toward San Ysidro. Before you round the big turn heading into San Ysidro look for Cabezon Road to the south - turn here. follow Cabezon Road for 3-5 miles until you leave peublo lands and enter BLM land. Park at the first parking area you find."

    I wanna know exactly where I am going - I want to know how much climbing and how technical it is. I want to know if I should bring the hardtail or the FS bike. etc...

    The point of a thread like this is for the people who are in the know and always answering these questions to have a place to capture their knowledge and share it with the MTB community. The reviews section is really for a different purpose - for the community at large to provide thier feedback on the trails and rate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sodade
    From an "outsider's" perspective (having lived in Cedar Crest for less than half a year now), I gotta say, I wish NM had a thread as awesome as my buddy PaulB set up for AZ.

    I like to know every little detail of a place before I go riding there so I am prepared and know what I am getting into and I usually like to explore a new place solo at my own pace. I have been pretty frustrated trying to get information on some of the local riding spots. Far example I can find hardly any details on White Mesa. No trailmaps, no descriptions, and this minimal how to get there from the trail reviews:

    "Take NM 550 west from Bernalillo and head toward San Ysidro. Before you round the big turn heading into San Ysidro look for Cabezon Road to the south - turn here. follow Cabezon Road for 3-5 miles until you leave peublo lands and enter BLM land. Park at the first parking area you find."

    I wanna know exactly where I am going - I want to know how much climbing and how technical it is. I want to know if I should bring the hardtail or the FS bike. etc...

    The point of a thread like this is for the people who are in the know and always answering these questions to have a place to capture their knowledge and share it with the MTB community. The reviews section is really for a different purpose - for the community at large to provide thier feedback on the trails and rate them.
    Well I think I can speak for more than a few people on this board when I say if you had asked for a personal White Mesa guide you would have received many offers, and all the info you could possibly need about the place.

    I think that beats a sticky at the top of a message board, but that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sodade
    From an "outsider's" perspective (having lived in Cedar Crest for less than half a year now), I gotta say, I wish NM had a thread as awesome as my buddy PaulB set up for AZ.
    I haven't seen anything to make me think PaulB did the AZ sticky out of annoyance or lazyness. It seems to me his primary intentions are to be helpful.

    Quote Originally Posted by sodade
    I like to know every little detail of a place before I go riding there so I am prepared and know what I am getting into and I usually like to explore a new place solo at my own pace.
    I can be the same way. There have been plenty of times I've gone out with a sketch map and sparse directions with the intention of just poking around and exploring at my own pace and space. It's kind of fun (even if I one time me and my 2-Wheel Drive map managed to get lost and out in the dark on the Mighty Mule trail). Also, regardless of how helpful many folks are, sometimes you just can't arrange for the guided tour.

    Quote Originally Posted by sodade
    The point of a thread like this is for the people who are in the know and always answering these questions to have a place to capture their knowledge and share it with the MTB community. The reviews section is really for a different purpose - for the community at large to provide thier feedback on the trails and rate them.
    Pretty much sums it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyN
    You are aware that there is an mtbr trail review section are you not?

    Not trying to get you all fired up, but maybe trail reviews and directions are better suited to being placed there.
    I hadn't really thought about the upside/downside of the NM board vs the trail review. I saw that several visitors were logging onto the NM board with trail questions, and I thought a FAQ type of sticky post might be useful to them.

    Now that I have thought about it, the trail review section doesn't really seem to meet the need. It has limited composition and editing. I don't see were you can post in hyperlinks, maps and photos. It also doesn't seem to have the capability to weave narrative and graphics the way the board threads do. It looks to be more a condensed, soundbite, off the cuff sort of thing. I remember in times past trying to get trail info off of the review section and elsewhere on the internet. It is usually not so helpful, and I mainly get a bunch of scrap links to trails.com.

    One or more general information sticky posts seems to be a viable approach. As it is, someone planning a visit asks some question, locals give some answers and feedback, and the thread drifts down the post list. Time goes by and someone else asks a similar question.

    Some recent examples:

    X-post - Tell me about Albuquerque

    Good Beginner Trail in Albuqurque?

    Stranger in your midst

    Is there any Winter riding up there.

    If you had one day in ALB...

    Cloudcroft / Alamo for Christmas?

    Alb trip over Thankgiving Week; Ride options?

    Having some useful info in one easy to find spot could give info on these questions and, if needed, lead to more targeted inquiries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCdaveH
    I hadn't really thought about the upside/down side of the NM board vs the trail review. I saw that several visitors were logging onto the NM board with trail questions, and I thought a FAQ type of sticky post might be useful to them.

    Now that I have thought about it, the trail review section doesn't really seem to meet the need. It has limited composition and editing. I don't see were you can post in hyperlinks, maps and photos. It also doesn't seem to have the capability to weave narrative and graphics the way the board threads do. It looks to be more a condensed, soundbite, off the cuff sort of thing. I remember in times past trying to get trail info off of the review section and elsewhere on the internet. It is usually not so helpful, and I mainly get a bunch of scrap links to trails.com.

    One or more general information sticky posts seems to be a viable approach. As it is, someone planning a visit asks some question, locals give some answers and feedback, and the thread drifts down the post list. Time goes by and someone else asks a similar question.

    Some examples:

    X-post - Tell me about Albuquerque

    Good Beginner Trail in Albuqurque?

    Stranger in your midst

    Is there any Winter riding up there.

    If you had one day in ALB...

    Cloudcroft / Alamo for Christmas?

    Alb trip over Thankgiving Week; Ride options?

    Having some useful info in one easy to find spot could give info on these questions and, if needed, lead to more targeted inquiries.

    Just my $0.01

    I guess I agree with you, I haven't been cruising the NM board as much as I used to so I missed many of those "what to ride" posts that have popped up lately.

    That being said I still feel it will benefit the regulars on the NM board more than anyone else by relieving some of the frustration involved with answering the same questions over and over again.

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    White Mesa

    Quote Originally Posted by sodade
    Far example I can find hardly any details on White Mesa. No trailmaps, no descriptions, and this minimal how to get there from the trail reviews:
    White Mesa seems to be fast becoming a popular ride destination for visitors as well as locals thanks to FooMTB (Friends of Otero) whose work got the area reopened for recreational usage. The trails are beginner to intermediate with some advanced obstacles if one knows where to look. White Mesa seems to be the preferred destination for riders when conditions in the east mountains are less than desirable.
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    1) How do you get there?

    Quote Originally Posted by ishy
    I'm game to go- havent met ya'll yet, but was out with Rich today and he mentioned were are riding - please PM directions and times tho - just moved here and havent been to WM yet
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    From Santa Fe take I-40 South. Exit Bernalillo @ Hwy 550 to Farmington. Head West for about 22mi and look for Cabezon Rd on the left. At the fork make a left and follow the dirt road for about 6 miles p-lot on the right.


    2) What type of riding ie..what "steed" do I bring from my "stable"?

    I have done it on SS, AM, and DH bikes. I prefer the all mountain set up here if you know what to look for

    Quote Originally Posted by rsclimb
    I'm in if Susan wants to go. She can keep up easy. 8:30 may be better but we could do 8 if we had to. Don't care about direction. Choose best flow and best downhill sections. I'm only partially familiar with the ride. How long is the loop? She'll ask me lots of questions while I'm trying to convince her to ride with other poeple
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    The loop is probably somewhere in the 7-8 mile range. Fairly short. That is why, depending on the caliber or riders, we may want to extend it to two loops or double back from the first loop which is significantly more climbing.
    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate
    My other delima is whether to bring my Racer X 29er or my fully ridged singlespeed 29er....


    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    If you prefer SS Cedro, Otero, & WM are all SS friendly




    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate
    Thanksgiving Morning White Mesa Ride Pixxx!!1111

    Thanks to all the folks who showed up to ride with an out of town flat-lander.























    I brought the Racer X and enjoyed granny gear!!
    3) Route recomendations

    I prefer clockwise, but if you like punish yourself on the climbing try doing the out and back loop---CW to C-CW.

    Quote Originally Posted by SSweetleaf
    Where are you thinking about riding Sunday? I wouldn't mind tagging along if possible. Supposed to be nice weather.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    If you are askin' me, I would like to give the SS a go out at White Mesa. Maybe we could do a clockwise loop then double back for a counter clockwise
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    As a newbie to ABQ I appreciate the information that you guys provide regarding trails. I agree that it's difficult to find any info at the bike shops, so this is really my sole source of trail info.

    Any directions, maps, descriptions, etc. are greatly appreciated so I can explore NM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sodade
    From an "outsider's" perspective (having lived in Cedar Crest for less than half a year now), I gotta say, I wish NM had a thread as awesome as my buddy PaulB set up for AZ.

    I like to know every little detail of a place before I go riding there so I am prepared and know what I am getting into and I usually like to explore a new place solo at my own pace. I have been pretty frustrated trying to get information on some of the local riding spots. Far example I can find hardly any details on White Mesa. No trailmaps, no descriptions, and this minimal how to get there from the trail reviews:

    "Take NM 550 west from Bernalillo and head toward San Ysidro. Before you round the big turn heading into San Ysidro look for Cabezon Road to the south - turn here. follow Cabezon Road for 3-5 miles until you leave peublo lands and enter BLM land. Park at the first parking area you find."

    I wanna know exactly where I am going - I want to know how much climbing and how technical it is. I want to know if I should bring the hardtail or the FS bike. etc...

    The point of a thread like this is for the people who are in the know and always answering these questions to have a place to capture their knowledge and share it with the MTB community. The reviews section is really for a different purpose - for the community at large to provide thier feedback on the trails and rate them.
    The best advice for someone from another area is to post and ask "anyone riding today"
    in that way you avoid all this crap. most of us are willing to take new riders to the area and show them around. Which is more than I can say about some other areas. as what to bring and how technical the area is...bro it's mountain biking not road riding.... the more technical the better. My point is if you have a bad attitude (which you don't have) you are not going to get very far, if not ask around or search some of the past topics about trail disclosures in Albuquerque.
    Have fun.

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    Some helpful homework here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Littlebear73
    I believe the whole enchilada was over what trails are found in the LC area.

    It appears we've wandered a bit off the trail.

    The trail review site on here has pretty good descriptions of what the standard rides are: Dona Ana, Roblados, A mountain, etc... There is also a LC to El Paso trail ride that has a really good write up either here in the NM forum or in Passion. Here are some websites that may help.

    http://crl.nmsu.edu/~mleisher/mtb-rides.html

    http://content.elpasotimes.com/outdo...ng/index.shtml

    http://www.singletracks.com/php/trail.php?id=1849

    http://www.nmmagazine.com/cgi-bin/li...aming%2FBiking

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    Don't Forget...

    Socorro, NM

    Here is a link to the trail guide used for the Fat Tire Festival.

    http://www.socorro.com/fattire/trails.html

    It's pretty good. Loaded with rides near, around Socorro and Magdalena, NM

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    Trails in NW Albuquerque??

    Does anyone know of any decent trails in NW Albuquerque?

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    Can you be a little more specific?

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    I'm new to ABQ and live in the NW. I just wanted to see if there were any trails nearby that I could hit after work. I've only found a couple out by Paseo del Norte and Paradise, but they're primarily sand.

    Any guidance would be appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by NE2NM
    I'm new to ABQ and live in the NW. I just wanted to see if there were any trails nearby that I could hit after work. I've only found a couple out by Paseo del Norte and Paradise, but they're primarily sand.

    Any guidance would be appreciated

    I don't know of any trails on the west side other than the Volcanos but, I here they're nothing great.

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    Are there any trailheads for the Volcanoes on Unser or out by Double Eagle Airport on Paseo Del Volcan?

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    looks like i need to reload my NM Ride Pix again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyN
    You are aware that there is an mtbr trail review section are you not?

    Not trying to get you all fired up, but maybe trail reviews and directions are better suited to being placed there.
    Some of my best rides have been solo ventures on trails listed in the "trail review" section. The forum is best for meeting others to hit the trails with. Guided rides are sometimes better for less adventurous riders. Either way, I personally am stoked that people are hitting both sections of the web for more info.

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    Hi all.
    I'll be in Abq for most of June and will be looking for some kindly souls to show me some sweet trails. From what I've read y'all sound mighty generous in that regard. I'm staying with my brother in law in the NE Heights so I figure the foothills are a given. Should be a good way to get some lungs back 'cause I'm going to be pretty unfit... (Too much time at work lately.) Otherwise I'm all for doing shuttles or chairlifts, so what are the best bets? Sandia Peak seems to get mixed reviews. I'm on a bullit with a lightweight wheel set and ideally I'd like to hit some good descents that don't require the ability to hit massive doubles. If anyone is planning a trip to Angel Fire I'd be interested in tagging along. Also going to be in Farmington and Durango for a bit. PM me if you're happy to play tourguide if you ever make it to NZ I'll return the favour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bshallard
    Hi all.
    I'll be in Abq for most of June and will be looking for some kindly souls to show me some sweet trails. From what I've read y'all sound mighty generous in that regard. I'm staying with my brother in law in the NE Heights so I figure the foothills are a given. Should be a good way to get some lungs back 'cause I'm going to be pretty unfit... (Too much time at work lately.) Otherwise I'm all for doing shuttles or chairlifts, so what are the best bets? Sandia Peak seems to get mixed reviews. I'm on a bullit with a lightweight wheel set and ideally I'd like to hit some good descents that don't require the ability to hit massive doubles. If anyone is planning a trip to Angel Fire I'd be interested in tagging along. Also going to be in Farmington and Durango for a bit. PM me if you're happy to play tourguide if you ever make it to NZ I'll return the favour.
    Post up as the date approaches for conditions and recomendations. What type of bike will you bring?

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    I'll be bringing my bullit. Set up light for general all mountain riding. I'm taking off the swingarm and packing the bike in a suitcase, and will have a set of Mavic Crossrides waiting for me. Also a set of Bomber AM1 forks which I will need to install before I do any riding. Recommendations for a good bike workshop in NE Heights would be a help. I'll need them to cut the steerer tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bshallard
    I'll be bringing my bullit. Set up light for general all mountain riding. I'm taking off the swingarm and packing the bike in a suitcase, and will have a set of Mavic Crossrides waiting for me. Also a set of Bomber AM1 forks which I will need to install before I do any riding. Recommendations for a good bike workshop in NE Heights would be a help. I'll need them to cut the steerer tube.

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    Fantastic! I will take you up on that for sure. Have you got a shock pump too? Hot damn I'm looking forward to this trip!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bshallard
    Fantastic! I will take you up on that for sure. Have you got a shock pump too? Hot damn I'm looking forward to this trip!
    Yes I do. You do not need a shock pump for the AM 1, unless it is the SL. Either way, I have an SL and I can also help you set it up. The pressures recommended by the factory are incorrect. We will get ya goin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Yes I do. You do not need a shock pump for the AM 1, unless it is the SL. Either way, I have an SL and I can also help you set it up. The pressures recommended by the factory are incorrect. We will get ya goin'.
    Make sure you have the base plate/crown race for your headset, a starnut or stemlock, and the appropriate spacers.

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    hi folks. Just heading down to the Taos/Santa Fe/Los Alamos area next weekend. Only plan is one night at ojo caliente. Wondering about rides to do with the gf toward ojo, maybe camping in that vicinity as well?

    Looking at 8-15 mile rides, moderate to pumping climbs, cruisy singletrack more than technical drops.

    Thanks for any advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Yes I do. You do not need a shock pump for the AM 1, unless it is the SL. Either way, I have an SL and I can also help you set it up. The pressures recommended by the factory are incorrect. We will get ya goin'.
    There's that Performance Bike employee knowledge deficit again.

    The AM1 is one side air and one side coil, and does require a shock pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyN
    There's that Performance Bike employee knowledge deficit again.

    The AM1 is one side air and one side coil, and does require a shock pump.
    I never even noticed it on mine before I converted to the SL. Either way I have a shock pump and if he needs it he is welcome to use it.

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    I've just had a closer look at the specs of the fork I bought. I thought it was probably an air fork due to the 5 pound weight. Turns out it is probably identical internally to my existing fork which is an '05 Z1FR with 20mm axle. When I set that up I just let all the air out, as even with 5psi in there it was oversprung for my weight. I've slammed it into the ground nice and hard without it bottoming harshly. Anyway, setting up this new fork should be a no-brainer. It's gonna be interesting to see how much flex there is in the steering. I've grown to rely on the directness of the 20mm set-up.
    I'll have all the bits I need and the exact measurement of the steerer etc. We'll have to shim up the brakes for the new hubs. Does anyone have a Hope brake mount facing tool? It makes a big difference in getting the brakes running true and quiet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bshallard
    I've just had a closer look at the specs of the fork I bought. I thought it was probably an air fork due to the 5 pound weight. Turns out it is probably identical internally to my existing fork which is an '05 Z1FR with 20mm axle. When I set that up I just let all the air out, as even with 5psi in there it was oversprung for my weight. I've slammed it into the ground nice and hard without it bottoming harshly. Anyway, setting up this new fork should be a no-brainer. It's gonna be interesting to see how much flex there is in the steering. I've grown to rely on the directness of the 20mm set-up.
    I'll have all the bits I need and the exact measurement of the steerer etc. We'll have to shim up the brakes for the new hubs. Does anyone have a Hope brake mount facing tool? It makes a big difference in getting the brakes running true and quiet.
    Interesting. I just bought a formula brake mount for my XTR 180mm rotor and it is far from quiet. Do you know if they can face the formula mounts also? Maybe you can look at it for me.

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    It's the IS mounts on the fork that you face. Not an issue on post mount as far as I can see. The IS tabs on my Z1 fork took quite a lot of facing. Hope make a jig that clamps in the dropouts (regular or 20mm) and it has guide holes to mount a rose cutter that faces the tabs. You would be amazed at how far out of true they are from the factory. It probably isn't an issue for brakes that use a mounting bracket, but my Hopes mount directly to the tabs.
    My brakes run a lot quieter than my brother's Hope brakes, and my tabs are faced and his aren't. My local bike mechanic has one of these. I was vaguely wondering if any local Abq mechanics had one. Not really a big deal though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bshallard
    It's the IS mounts on the fork that you face. Not an issue on post mount as far as I can see. The IS tabs on my Z1 fork took quite a lot of facing. Hope make a jig that clamps in the dropouts (regular or 20mm) and it has guide holes to mount a rose cutter that faces the tabs. You would be amazed at how far out of true they are from the factory. It probably isn't an issue for brakes that use a mounting bracket, but my Hopes mount directly to the tabs.
    My brakes run a lot quieter than my brother's Hope brakes, and my tabs are faced and his aren't. My local bike mechanic has one of these. I was vaguely wondering if any local Abq mechanics had one. Not really a big deal though.
    Cool thanks. There is a local shop that may have the tool you need. Fat Tire Cycles. 505.345.9005

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Cool thanks. There is a local shop that may have the tool you need. Fat Tire Cycles. 505.345.9005
    Why swing by an overpriced IBD (all IBD's are overpriced after all) like Fat Tire. Why not just go to Performance. Surely they have all the right tools and training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarvis
    Why swing by an overpriced IBD (all IBD's are overpriced after all) like Fat Tire. Why not just go to Performance. Surely they have all the right tools and training.

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    Pfffft.
    Now that's funny,does performance carry NEXT brand bikes, toto?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarvis
    Why swing by an overpriced IBD (all IBD's are overpriced after all) like Fat Tire. Why not just go to Performance. Surely they have all the right tools and training.

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    Wrong thread d!ckhead We really should limit this thread to those who are interested in posting and requesting trail info.. If you have something to say about Performance post it in the appropriate place HERE...My bad on the previous posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by makachut
    Now that's funny,does performance carry NEXT brand bikes, toto?

    Et tu Marcus???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Wrong thread d!ckhead We really should limit this thread to those who are interested in posting and requesting trail info.. If you have something to say about Performance post it in the appropriate place HERE...My bad on the previous posts


    So it was fine when you were posting OT, but now Sarvis is a d!ckhead huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Et tu Marcus???
    Sarvis made a joke,
    Once again lost in translation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Wrong thread d!ckhead We really should limit this thread to those who are interested in posting and requesting trail info.. If you have something to say about Performance post it in the appropriate place HERE...My bad on the previous posts
    Hmmm seems that my reply struck a nerve. Though it was an (couched) honest question.

    BFWIW, I didn't start this OT section of the thread, I just replied to it.

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    I'll take "d!ckhead," although I prefer "Right B@stard."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarvis
    I'll take "d!ckhead," although I prefer "Right B@stard."

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    more like Leftbiotch
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    Posted a thread for trail infomation in the Chama area, then i saw this thread. Any ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pivotpoint
    Posted a thread for trail infomation in the Chama area, then i saw this thread. Any ideas?
    Looking to stop half way for a break on the way to Angel Fire. Thanks.
    Cumbres pass ,Lamanga pass,and over along the Conejos river all on the Colorado side then there is Sargents on the northside of Chama
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