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    I Was lucky enough to get out for a ride two days in a row hitting the North Foothills. Yesterday was out in the morning without a snag. Today was a different story. Found a wire strung up across the trail just east of Tramway. While riding I was unable to see it. The wire struck my neck taking me down. Thankfully it did not cut only bruise right side of the neck. After I got back up the wire was removed and destroyed. Trail is now clear but I'd still use caution while riding.

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    That **** is happening here!!??

    Where exactly was this? Just east of THE tram? More description needed. Not many areas with enough trees to set up such a device. Bando gang bang fr the **** stain in caught in the act?

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    Reported to the Open Space authorities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by warimono View Post
    That **** is happening here!!??

    Where exactly was this? Just east of THE tram?
    Not The tram but East of Tramway, North of Sims Park RD. Tried grabbing a pic off of Google Maps. If you zoom in it was rigged off the very first pole. Was able to get coordinates from Google Maps (35.157600, -106.496750). Looked like some wire one would use for fencing. Thankfully the leatherman was more than enough to remove it.

    My understanding is there have been more destructive type activity south on Tramway over the wooden bridges. What I hear is that someone is trying set fire to them. I have not seen to confirm, but have no reason to doubt the source.

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    dafuq?

    I thought that sh1t only happened in Placitas. Glad you are alright Andy.
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    It's most likely on USFS lands. Either way, I'll make sure to notify our law enforcement and pass along to Open Space. Glad you were not hurt.

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    Good gawd. What the hell is going on?

    I'll end up having to ride around like a WWII jeep with a piano wire cutter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATXZJ View Post
    Good gawd. What the hell is going on?

    I'll end up having to ride around like a WWII jeep with a piano wire cutter.
    Omg I'd love to see that hah!

    Glad you're ok sir! I'll make sure to keep an eye out for any funny business.
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    I'd call that an attempted homicide. No way I would ride those trails...
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    so... this is not in the NFH trail systems? East of Tramway, north of Simms park road??? The dirt trail going up to the shack?

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    I can't believe somebody is hateful enough to try to destroy one of the, if not THE, most positive thing in Albuquerque!

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    You'd be surprised....

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    Skerry offers good advice - glad your ok.

    On moto's I lost a friend to a cable across a trail in Farmington years ago, and personally carry the scar of 25+ stitches across the neck from a barbed wire fence.

    It is not a joking matter please talk to the authorities, they may not be abke to do much, but certainly will not do anything if they are not made aware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skerry00 View Post
    You'd be surprised....
    Just emailed you with details. Do not know exactly what the land there is classified as. Do not think it matters much as next time if the individual continues it may end up on USFS, Open Space or City land. The unfortunate individual that finds it might not be as lucky. Hopefully we will have an incident free ride season.

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    Thanks for the info. The location is important for our reporting to law enforcement but both agencies have been notified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skerry00 View Post
    Thanks for the info. The location is important for our reporting to law enforcement but both agencies have been notified.
    I would assume that USFS Land being Federal such crimes are Felonies. On AOS land it becomes County/State Jurisdiction and doesn't probably carry the same type of weight as for penalties.

    I know in the foothills I've seen huge rocks placed in the trails and things like tacks but never anything like booby-trapping that would cause bodily harm. Uncool no doubt!

    And it also re-inforces what FooMTB has been saying for years. Greet every hiker and runner with the utmost in courtesy. Use a bell, and remember the rights of way. Kill 'em with kindness and maybe they won't try and kill us with a booby-trap!
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    I must echo that. I'm hyper-courteous on the trails, figuring the same hiker I encounter has probably been blown off the trail by a bike more than once. If there's a dog, I always stop and talk... to the owner, that is... OK, both. Point is, I really don't want to pay for others' rudeness by losing the trails or worse, getting clothes-lined and never get up. Let's build a better rep.
    As for the new rocks appearing in the North Footies, I like it. Might be someone's idea of vandalism, but it's making the trail more interesting.

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    the rocks goat is referring to were placed to inflict harm to bike riders, typically in blind spots where bikes would be carrying a lot of speed. I saw an open space police officer removing some of the large rocks along the trail parallel to Simms Park Rd. He said they've been placed in other locations too and they think this sabotage is being done during dark hours. keep your eyes peeled for suspicious activity out there and let's catch these bas#$@!s
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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky dick View Post
    the rocks goat is referring to were placed to inflict harm to bike riders, typically in blind spots where bikes would be carrying a lot of speed. I saw an open space police officer removing some of the large rocks along the trail parallel to Simms Park Rd. He said they've been placed in other locations too and they think this sabotage is being done during dark hours. keep your eyes peeled for suspicious activity out there and let's catch these bas#$@!s
    Wonder if this might be the same individual??? Hate to see such things happening on the trails.

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    Indeed, most of the new rubble I've seen has been around corners. I'm inclined to think it is one person, not a general anti-mtb uprising.

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    "typically in blind spots where bikes would be carrying a lot of speed."

    Not sure your survival instinct don't need a bit of tweaking. Why would you ride faster than you can see to stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrebyter View Post
    ". Why would you ride faster than you can see to stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrebyter View Post
    "typically in blind spots where bikes would be carrying a lot of speed."

    Not sure your survival instinct don't need a bit of tweaking. Why would you ride faster than you can see to stop?
    Seeing a 5 to 6' tall person is not the same as seeing a 1 foot rock on the trail.
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    It is the same as a 1 foot high rock in the road. Do you ride your motorcycle on mountain roads faster than you can avoid a rock-slide around a curve you can't see? Just asking, because I encounter plenty of people who do. I just can't figure out what their contingency plan is. Crash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrebyter View Post
    It is the same as a 1 foot high rock in the road. Do you ride your motorcycle on mountain roads faster than you can avoid a rock-slide around a curve you can't see? Just asking, because I encounter plenty of people who do. I just can't figure out what their contingency plan is. Crash?
    IF there is a rock slide in the mountains across the road on a blind corner, you will crash...... If not by by hitting the rocks, then by the person behind you, or by going over the cliff.

    Regardless, if your trying to say that seeing a person is the same as seeing a rock then keep on believing that. I have hit a few of these rock that have been moved, a few snakes, and even a couple unleashed dogs, but never a person. I know where the blind corners are and always look ahead to check for hikers and bikers before I get there. I will see the people (or any other tall object), but not the rocks and snakes and little dogs smaller than the height of the weeds or blocked by a roller.
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    Everyone chooses their own level of risk in this mountain biking endeavor. I'll ride the exposed bits of Moab, but not with my eyes closed.
    I've ridden enough of Colorado on my motorcycles and encountered plenty of rock-slides around corners and no, I didn't crash. If your sight distance is shorter than your breaking distance, you are not thinking clearly. Same goes in the Foothills. I meet riders at blind corners all the time, and I stop. Some run into me. Was that you?

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    Lets just end this dayum nonsense now. 6bobby9 is right. Not worth arguing anymore..... Back to the real topic of the sabotaged trail.

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    Yes. I went on too long. Sorry. On topic, damn the saboteurs. Glad no one was seriously hurt.

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    rode NFH today and took the dirt trail that parallels to the south side of simms park road. along the way and throughout 365 i kept thinking "CLOTHESLINE" ...ha ha.

    i would bet that kids/teens are responsible for this.
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    ^^^It's considered funny to clothesline someone in cartoons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsieb View Post
    ^^^It's considered funny to clothesline someone in cartoons.

    i remember those....i think

    it seems to come down to two types. kids who are too stupid to comprehend the impact of what they are doing, or somebody who is mentally ill.

    Being uber-nice on the trails would make no difference to the latter. this is the same type of person that would poison their neighbors dog for pissing on their lawn. we went through some of this on public lands in utah. crazy stuff.

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    Normally it's adult children, per past precedence. Middle age grumpy men whom only want the trail for themselves. Riders Bob (no, not me) & and a guy named Tim, have been victims of such attacks know first hand. This was even in news several years ago.
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    Jebus this shit is really happening up here? I was just riding the north foot hills area on Saturday morning and randomly thought how much it would suck if somebody strung a line across one of the trails. OP, I'm glad you were not hurt worse, that really sucks. What the **** is wrong with people. Ugh. That said, there are a ton of mountain bikers up there who are riding like *******s lately and it's pissing me off. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the guy puffing UPHILL has the right-of-way. Tell that to the people who keep blowing me off the trails when I'm trying to climb up steep sections and they come flying down. This kind of shit has to stop, especially if you are doing this to pedestrians. It's going to piss a lot of people off, and then this dangerous passive aggressive homicidal shit starts.

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    Just keep doing the right thing VFX. I personally yield to everyone and tell them and how many people are behind me that I know of. I am in no hurry. Just want to have a good time.
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    I agree with bobby except that I am in a hurry and going fast is fun as sh!t. But slow the heck down and be nice, tell them how many more, shout up to your buddies still coming down "hiker!" or whatever. It only takes a handful of jerks to ruin it for hundreds of other riders if the wrong interaction happens to the wrong person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VFXterra View Post
    That said, there are a ton of mountain bikers up there who are riding like *******s lately and it's pissing me off. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the guy puffing UPHILL has the right-of-way.
    In years past I think the biking etiquette was MUCH better. Seems as though there is a 50/50 shot at getting to finish a climb now if there is a person coming down. Most of the riders that yield are super courteous, the ones that dont are douche bags.

    I'd just stand your ground and keep chugging uphill. If you are capable of keeping your cool while imparting some knowledge, perhaps (calmly) alert them to the general rule that uphill riders have right of way.


    PS: I do try my hardest to take into account what would be easiest for both riders...if I see someone coming down 50ft or more ahead I find a good spot to pull over and let them continue having fun instead of stopping for my ass to get up. But, it'd be nice to see the downhill riders demonstrate the same level of courtesy which is happening less and less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borracho View Post
    To the dude in tijeras from this past sunday on the Candondale single sided fork, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME FINISH MY CLIMB!

    You're Welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6bobby9 View Post
    You're Welcome.
    ....It wasnt a c'dale though was it

    Sorry. Either way, thanks.

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    It prob wasnt me. My lefty is on a Scott Genius. The only Cdale I have at the moment is a 1FG Singlespeed headshock. I do stop for everyone though when given the chance.
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    I guess this is happening on other places too...
    Psychiatrist pleads guilty to sabotaging trails

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    Dr. Douchebag got 30 days? Wonder if he gets to keep his license to practice medicine.

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