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    Good job! Thanks Greg de Taos

    My buddies and I wanted to put out a big shout to Greg.

    We hit up some of Taos' finest last weekend. The weather, trails, camping, hospitality were all top notch. South Boundary is, indeed, one AWESOME ride. Tight, twisty singletrack that goes for miles and miles, if you like that sort of thing And ripping through the sage on the Horse Thief trail will get anyone smiling.

    Also, Ray at Gearing Up is one heck of a gentleman. Driving that van up the dirt road to South Boundary doesn't look fun, but he was helpful, enthusiastic and friendly.

    Finally, Arroyo Seco is one funky place.

    Anyone who likes to ride in beautiful spots should put Taos on their list. Thanks again,

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    Greg finally learned his way around what he calls his home town?? or did he finally learn how to read that GPS and down load trail info. touche

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    So how was Salida? Went to change fork seals on Friday night and found the ones Zoke sent were too small. This was after I destroyed the old ones during removal

    Anyway, wasn't to0 confident going the xtra miles on the 55 'specially when I had just installed a new cart and was feeling stickyicky. Next time!

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    I leave town for a couple of weeks and people start talking sh*t. Sorry I missed you Tim, we had to leave town a few days early due to my Dad's poor planning (funny how the kids turn into the responsible ones). Glad you guys had fun, keep coming to Taos, we need all the help we can get and there is some really good riding here.
    Maka, you have been talking to SSweatleaf, and I didnt get all that lost, just a little detour that got us where we were going. ha. Kids are back in school this week, have you ridden in Taos Ski Valley? Frazer to Bull of the Woods to Gold Hill to Long Canyon with options for Lost Lake or Goose Lake?
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg de taos
    have you ridden in Taos Ski Valley? Frazer to Bull of the Woods to Gold Hill to Long Canyon with options for Lost Lake or Goose Lake?
    I talked about hooking up with you for a ride from TSV to Goose Lake and then down to Red River, or actually the other way 'round last summer. Got busy and never did it. I'm starting to think about that ride again. Would you be free in a couple of weeks to show me the route (or at least have some GPS maps that I could use if you're busy).

    Edit: I'm actually thinkng TSV-Goose Lake-Red River-Goose Lake-TSV to avoid the shuttle. I'm guessing 8000' of climbing, but should be a fun day of riding.
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    I am ready for that ride! Sounds like a lot of fun. I would suggest climbing up Frasier first and skirting the wilderness down to Bull of the Woods then up to Goose Lake, down the creek "trail" and back again, I think 8000 is about right but I have some spots up there that I cannot get elevation data for and screws up the entire profile. Kids are back in school on Wednesday so I am free to ride most any day. Let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg de taos
    I am ready for that ride! Sounds like a lot of fun. I would suggest climbing up Frasier first and skirting the wilderness down to Bull of the Woods then up to Goose Lake, down the creek "trail" and back again, I think 8000 is about right but I have some spots up there that I cannot get elevation data for and screws up the entire profile. Kids are back in school on Wednesday so I am free to ride most any day. Let me know.

    If this is an open invite, I'm in. Time and place?

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    It is just plain open, come up anytime and I will ride it, seven minutes from my front door and this is only one of the many trails I have come to love in the TSV area. There is one land owner up there that wants to charge to ride across his land but I have found (cut) a way around him so all is a go. Just get here early! It has rained every day that I have been in town all summer long. We have camping now right next door in the ten buck a night range, if the weather sucks, they have inexpensive rooms as well.
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    Thanks Greg those rides would be great to do with you. and i was just giving you a little love rub since I haven't seen you in a while.

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    I deserved it. I have been riding single speed up here all summer and loving it, I feel like a little kid on the bike again and nothing ever breaks. Seems to make you strong as all get out as well.
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    I'm thinking of heading up next Friday (Aug 22) to do the ride mentioned above. Going to see if Greg and/or others were free that day to do lots-0-climbing.
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    Count me in! Can we carpool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Count me in! Can we carpool?
    Awesome, swing by my house in LA and pick me up.

    Meet in Pojoaque and I can haul the rest of the way. I've got room for a couple more passengers in my jeepster. My hitch carrier has room for only 2 bikes, so we'd need to do a bit of disassembly to get both bikes and passengers in the back if more than you come. Any chance your 4x bike hauler uses a 2" hitch mount?
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    Yeppers! Easy transfer should others wish join in the massacre

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    Anyone else want to ride single speed? I broke the dropout on my new fox RLC and it is off to the factory, not due back for a couple of weeks. ouch.
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    No thanks. The only gear I have is a 36 x 18 on a 26'er.

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    oh come on, where is your sense of adventure? 4000 feet of climbing in the way wrong gear!!
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    I would rather crank my 38.5lb geared at least the DH would be fun.

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    I don't have a singlespeed--I can try to shift less often. Maybe I'll choose 18-36 on the way up and 36-18 on the way down. Sort of a single speed in each direction

    Bummer to hear about the RLC dropout issue.
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    Don't let me forget to give you your wrench.

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    While we're reminding you about things, remember that the ride is a week from tomorrow....not tomorrow. I seem to recall some confusion about rides before.
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    Wow, that is a very kind offer, keeping it it the right gear and all. It would be more fun if you did the opposite.

    I am pretty bummed about the RLC. I have seriously broken three bikes this summer. Road bike somebody tried to steal a couple of weeks ago, I sprinted after them and grabbed it out of the back of their pick up.(I was hitching home from a flat in the rain) It hit the side rail of the truck and bent the frame right in half. I should have just let them have it, then someone could have rode it. UG.
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    Sounds fun. I've been looking for a chance to get up to Taos for a ride this summer and next Friday might fit the bill. Need to clear some work stuff first but I'll try to be there.
    Not sure I'll roll with the singlespeed though. Sorry Greg.
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    Ok so nobody wants to ride single up and over the mountain. I have to ask, would you guys ride a bike with a broken drop out, just half of it is missing (back half) and the wheel seems to stay on just fine thanks to those "lawyer tab" things. I know I am grasping at straws, tell me I am stupid and to just spend the 400 bucks, but I miss my bike.
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    Hmmm, guess I'll bring the ss after all. I'm willing suffer in order to assure your safety. It'll be better than hauling your busted carcass off the mountain. You can thank me later.

    Honestly, I have no idea what the route you've described has in store.
    Don't tell me!! I want it to be a surprise.
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    Your shop won't give you a loaner?

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    Thanks guys, no worries, I have done most of this ride before with the single, just lamenting broken sh*t. Has been a rough summer that way. Unless you can run close to one to one I wouldn't recommend it. I am trying to find a loaner, just a little leery after breaking one. Maybe I should stop jumping off of things!!
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    I'm not in a particular hurry to blast through this ride. So I don't see why you can't bring the SS and we all have a nice leisurely ride on some beautiful trails. Gives me a chance to take lots of photos.

    Now, every time I've ridden with a SS rider around here, I have the opposite problem. I can't keep up with the SOBs on a climb. So...you just might have to wait on me. Descending is another story...but I'll just grab more brake.

    I wouldn't sweat the bike. As long as you have something on two wheels and can show us the goods, then it's going to be a great day.
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    This may hurt a bit

    Just an initial plan. yes that would be over 8000 feet of climbing but also over 8 grand of descent!! with all of the rain we got the past few days, goose lake "trail" will be one huge mess. thoughts? suggestions? looks like fun to me.
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    Higher elevations today saw some snow. Should see some more snow Sunday and Sunday night.

    I saw about an inch above 10k feet.

    Global warming my a$$!

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    hmmm...what do you guys think? We still on? 8,000' will be a first for me! My legs hurt already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg de taos
    Just an initial plan. yes that would be over 8000 feet of climbing but also over 8 grand of descent!! with all of the rain we got the past few days, goose lake "trail" will be one huge mess. thoughts? suggestions? looks like fun to me.
    Thoughts--looks like a great ride. I get to see a lot of trails in that area in one day and looked like we could cut out some parts if stroms rolled in.

    Have you ridden this route before? Based on earlier comments, I'm wondering how much over 24 miles we're going to ride (wrong turns, etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    hmmm...what do you guys think? We still on? 8,000' will be a first for me! My legs hurt already.
    Hoo yea....I'm still planning on going. I've never done 8000, but I did 7000 early in the seasonl. As long as I take it easy on the climbs and don't try to set any speed records, I'll be fine. You're in as good a shape as I am so I think you can handle it.

    Weather will probably decide if we get to do the full ride, though. The summer sun gods will need to take a good liking to us to get through the full ride without storms.
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    We will have to start early for sure but we must make it to the long canyon descent, it is one of my favorites. I have gone from TSV to the top of Frasier down to Bull of the Woods up to Gold Hill and down Long Canyon in one ride, I have done the up and over to the red river side and around Lost Lake as one ride, The only part that I dont ride very often is the East Fork area but it is very straight forward and if it wasn't pouring right now I would be on my way up. I will find time to go ride that section this week to make sure we are cool.

    We could cut out the Frasier climb but then to get up to Bull of the woods is two miles of hike a bike.

    We will see some of the most amazing terrain I have ever seen. It beats anything I have ever seen in the Rockies (I know, tall order) or Europe for that matter and be deeper into the woods than one normally goes.

    All of the Frasier and Gold Hill climbs are totally doable as I have riding them on the single running 32-18 all year, they will give you a little kick in the a@@! There is a bit of hike a bike on the Lost Loop Leg but I would feel remiss if we went all the way over the mountain and I didn't do my favorite alpine loop. There is still copious snow on the down side of the East Fork, but all I have had time to do was look at it from high above on Bull of the Woods Mountain. There was snow on Frasier just three weeks ago and as I look it is probably dumping up there now.
    Should be one hell of a challenge.
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    Am I crazy?

    Greg,

    Am I nutty to want to bring the ss on this ride? I've been riding it pretty much exclusivley all summer and am in decent shape (relative, I know) but that elevation profile you posted looks pretty hairy. Especially that first 3 miles I've ridden the Taos standards (S. Boundary, Devisadero, Capulin etc) but I'm not familiar with the route you've outlined. Sorry to have to ask but since these are your home trails I thought you might have some insight.

    Looking forward to it regardless
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    Depends on what kind of shape you are in and of course what gear you can run. You are right, the trip up Frasier is brutal and you will have to walk some of the named climbs. The hardest part is that it goes up so quickly with no where to rest. I for one love that ride and normally do it with 32-20 but for Friday I think I may put on the 24 just to make sure I have some legs for the climb back up from the Red River side.

    As usual with ss, the climbs are mentally tough but it is the descents that end up killing me. I will be running full rigid and hopefully hauling ass. We will be just opposite TSV with some equally steep terrain.

    Living up here I climb a ton, but if I had my geared bike running I would probably go with it, unless you are a glutton for punishment.

    I can't friggin' wait!!! Rained all day today.
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    Logistics...

    Is everyone driving there and back same day...and I am assuming we could pitch a tent at Greggs should we be incapable of driving!

    What time/place?

    Carpooling from Pojoaque....meeting there at 5:30am 'ish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Is everyone driving there and back same day...and I am assuming we could pitch a tent at Greggs should we be incapable of driving!

    What time/place?

    Carpooling from Pojoaque....meeting there at 5:30am 'ish?

    I was thinking we meet at that outdoor shopping area...the place that has the hardware store, grocery, etc. Check Google maps for 35.883435, -106.012616. It's just past the Kokoman liquor store but before you get to the LA exit/Cities of Gold Casino. Casino is a little easier to spot but I don't know if they tow your vehicle if you're not playing. I can be there by 5:30 if you can get from Abq by then.

    I plan to come back Friday. I need to be camping in the hospital wing if I'm not back to keep the wife from removing sensitive body parts.
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    Mister Bobbet....

    If there is anyone from Burque that is interested now would be the time to speak. Preferably someone that doesn't mind spending the night in Taos if need be...shoot, just having a co-pilot would be nice.

    I can be at the strip mall 5:30am no probs. I started my drive to Moab last year at 12:30am and made it just in time for Porc shutlle at 8am sharp.

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    Room for me?

    Can I glom onto this carpool from Pojoaque? I'm good for gas $ and a post-ride refreshments. (NOT Tecate!)

    I'm with Rotmilky on the whole staying the night deal. I need to keep the peace at the homefront. Back friday evening.
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    ok, i'm in. i'm in burque. i can chip in gas/beer/food money and leave super early if that is what we need to do. would 32x22 on a 29er be an ok gear? that is the smallest gear i have.

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    Sounds good. Would still be better is someone from Burque were going as well, anyone?

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    Perfect! Do you have a vehicle or will we be taking my gas guzzler to the meet and greet?

    What part of town?

    Edit: In case you are not familiar with the meeting place, we need to be on the road by 4:45 at the absolute latest..meaning I need to be at your place of vice versa by 4:30.

    Sounds like we will be taking the green machine as it is capable of hauling 4 bikes/dudes?

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    my car is ok, but it is super slow, 86 suby wagon. i would chip in cash for your truck if you are ok with driving. i don't have AC and a top speed of 65 in my suby but it should make it if you don't want to drive. i'm staying in nob hill/ridgecrest area. i can meet anywhere and anytime.

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    Ok...meet you at the Bernallilo park and ride?

    Exit 242 on I 25 towards Santa Fe at 4:45.

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    Looks like we've got our 4 people but If there's any other SF peeps that are interested I could set up a second carpool. I can haul 3 bikes/riders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdaddy
    Can I glom onto this carpool from Pojoaque? I'm good for gas $ and a post-ride refreshments. (NOT Tecate!)

    I'm with Rotmilky on the whole staying the night deal. I need to keep the peace at the homefront. Back friday evening.
    Yea, you're welcome to hop in with me. I had assumed I'd haul up 3 peeps and myself. Don't worry about the gas. Some beer and company are all I need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtimms
    ok, i'm in. i'm in burque. i can chip in gas/beer/food money and leave super early if that is what we need to do. would 32x22 on a 29er be an ok gear? that is the smallest gear i have.
    My granny ring is 18t (Mountain tamer) with a 34 cog on the rear for my 29er. Honestly, I rarely use that combination unless my legs are blasted. After 8000' of climbing, yea, I'll be using that combination. I think I could do the 32x22 combo as well if I had to--especially in light of the two SS riders who who are riding much taller gears than that.

    Edit: Just now realized from the other post that you're riding SS. No idea what it takes to get through a ride on one of those. I'd say you need to be a brick shy of a full load to do that, but seeing that 3 of the 5 going on this ride are going SS, maybe I must be crazy for riding a geary.
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    Can you haul all four w/at least one TA?

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    Breakfast burritos

    I plan on stopping in Taos to get breakfast burritos...one for my breakfast and one for my lunch. Anyone one know where to get a good fat breakfast burrito chalk full of meat and grease (Greg, help a poor hungry boy out here).
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