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    Stage 3 Restrictions (closures) on the Sandia Rd Coming.

    Looks like we're trending towards stage 3 (closures) for June 10. All areas except for the foothills south of the Tram will be closed. Think rain!

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    I was just thinking about asking this. It will be a bummer for the riding but anything to help keep knuckleheads from starting fires is ok by me.

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    So is this just the Sandias or will it include the Cedro- Otero area as well?
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    Cedro-Otero as well

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    Two weekends left. Get it while you can.
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    Kerry, what is your best guess, will the ski area will get to stay open?

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    +1 on the question about the ski area

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    Sorry, closed. Foothills south of the tram only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skerry00 View Post
    Cedro-Otero as well

    Crap! So when are we gonna organize a ride before this gets shut down?
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    Not quite clear on that. You mean 'closed' as in 'closed now' or were you answering the question about the ski area?

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    Doh!

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    Kerry was saying that the Ski area will be closed. Currently the forest in in Stage II no closures (yet.)
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    Damn! Time to do a rain dance
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATXZJ View Post
    Crap! So when are we gonna organize a ride before this gets shut down?
    Tomorrow (Saturday) at 0900hrs, Otero trail head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrebyter View Post
    Tomorrow (Saturday) at 0900hrs, Otero trail head.
    I could do that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrebyter View Post
    Tomorrow (Saturday) at 0900hrs, Otero trail head.
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    I could do that!
    thinking the same thing
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    OR go to the trail day instead, and help build some new trails!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skelldify View Post
    OR go to the trail day instead, and help build some new trails!
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    I have, I do and I will, but not today. Thanks for the suggestion.

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    Any chance this afternoon's rains changed anything?

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    nope.

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    We got a nice shower yesterday evening. Actually got the ground pretty wet. Already today you can't tell it did anything. Hope it was enough for the animals to get a drink. They are hurting pretty bad up here. Heard there was quite a few lightning strikes in the Manzanos. Not what we want from the storms.
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    Looks like the riding options are getting smaller. Foot Hills and Bosque closing down. Time to head north.
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    Foothills south of the Tram and out of the wilderness will still be open after June 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by skerry00 View Post
    Foothills south of the Tram and out of the wilderness will still be open after June 10
    Good to know. The report on the news tonight made it sound like all open space is closing including foot hills. I'll take what I can get.
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    Rode the North Footies this afternoon from Cedar Hill to Elena and around to 302. Didn't see anther rider in the hour and a half on the trail. The misinformation seems to be widespread. Only saw three riders yesterday. To paraphrase Yogi Berra, the trail is so crowded, nobody goes there anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrebyter View Post
    Rode the North Footies this afternoon from Cedar Hill to Elena and around to 302. Didn't see anther rider in the hour and a half on the trail. The misinformation seems to be widespread. Only saw three riders yesterday. To paraphrase Yogi Berra, the trail is so crowded, nobody goes there anymore.

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    Oh yeah, I forgot. The Footies suck! Too freakin' crowded and so groomed you could roller blade them! How's that? Better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrebyter View Post
    Oh yeah, I forgot. The Footies suck! Too freakin' crowded and so groomed you could roller blade them! How's that? Better?
    When I first moved to Abq. the only way I could get some piece of mind was rollerblading cuz that was the only thing I could afford to maintenance.

    What ever happened to that sport?

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    Mine are gathering dust... but you've got me thinking... Bosque trail is still open. You can blade for miles without interruption there... Assume you meant peace of mind ... or were you pissed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrebyter View Post
    Mine are gathering dust... but you've got me thinking... Bosque trail is still open. You can blade for miles without interruption there... Assume you meant peace of mind ... or were you pissed?
    I moved here from Oahu.

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    Oh. You were pissed. Welcome. Let's ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrebyter View Post
    Rode the North Footies this afternoon from Cedar Hill to Elena and around to 302. Didn't see anther rider in the hour and a half on the trail. The misinformation seems to be widespread. ....
    Here's the order: http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_...rdb5423399.pdf

    There are also maps, but those don't make you feel any better.

    And even worse, if you want to just go pedal up some roads to get a good cardio workout, both NM 165 from Placitas to the Peak and NM 536 from mile marker 2 to the peak are both closed.

    Hiked on the Peak this weekend with the family and it's really bad. There is a ton of blowdown just sitting on the forest floor...if they do get a lightning strike or some asshat with a match up there, it's going to be tragic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stabone33 View Post
    Here's the order: http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_...rdb5423399.pdf

    There are also maps, but those don't make you feel any better.

    And even worse, if you want to just go pedal up some roads to get a good cardio workout, both NM 165 from Placitas to the Peak and NM 536 from mile marker 2 to the peak are both closed.

    Hiked on the Peak this weekend with the family and it's really bad. There is a ton of blowdown just sitting on the forest floor...if they do get a lightning strike or some asshat with a match up there, it's going to be tragic.
    We were talking about that this weekend. (Preventing fires for too long)
    Its only a matter of time. Then hopefully it can grow back and we will start letting it burn. Its not a matter of if its a matter of when.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    We were talking about that this weekend. (Preventing fires for too long)
    Its only a matter of time. Then hopefully it can grow back and we will start letting it burn. Its not a matter of if its a matter of when.
    I agree. Would rather it be lightning than carelessness or outright felony arson, though...and after a couple good normal winters and summer monsoons so at least something can survive. Maybe that's enviro-brainwashing talking, because it doesn't make any difference in terms of the end result, and over the long term it may be good for the forest.

    Went through Summit County a couple weeks ago and I'm glad to see all the beetle kill being cut. That whole county will be one enormous aspen grove in 75 years...my great-grandkids will love it...maybe their grandkids will say the same about the Sandias.

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    It may be pased the point where we can do anything about it. If it burns the whole top the mountain will be gone. Then of it get git by a good monson all the top soil will be gone.... would be cool just barren rocls up there... like a giant white mesa. Sad to think how inevitable it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    It may be pased the point where we can do anything about it. If it burns the whole top the mountain will be gone. Then of it get git by a good monson all the top soil will be gone.... would be cool just barren rocls up there... like a giant white mesa. Sad to think how inevitable it is
    After the Cochiti fire and following rain I heard about Dixion's orchard on the news then saw it in person. I'd hate to see the Sandia's burn as it would be tragic for Albuquerque. Would be great if there was a means of removing the dead and down fuel. Crossing my fingers for significant rain here in the near future.

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    I think the trick is to get it to the point where it can burn without killing the big trees. Who knows i dont understand the fire cycle , but i think everyone knows (now) that its a very imporant part of the forrest. ...... whats my point? Oh yea its that unless the entire top of the sandias gets thined out and all the deadfal and dry old brush gets cleaned off the ground the next fire that happens there will burn so hot so fast the whole top of the mountain will be gone.

    Its only getting hotter and dryer.

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    The whole mountain will burn like the mountain back of Flagstaff burned years ago. It will be renamed Sandia Baldy. I favor selective logging and mastication, the former snarled in the wilderness crap and the latter in the same boat with the additional problem of decreasing federal funding. I'll sue the Sierra Club when my water shed is ruined...

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    It's about time! We are getting pounded with rain here in the East Mtns right now. Its been so long since we had rain, forgot what its like. Bet we have got nearly 1/2 in. Good start. Keep it coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbike52 View Post
    It's about time! We are getting pounded with rain here in the East Mtns right now. Its been so long since we had rain, forgot what its like. Bet we have got nearly 1/2 in. Good start. Keep it coming.
    Awesome! Thanks for the update! Was hoping you guys got soaked good! Hopefully this will keep up all week and they will open the trails by the end of the week. I know, wishful thinking, right? Can't help but hope though!

    Keep us updated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElektricEye View Post
    Awesome! Thanks for the update! Was hoping you guys got soaked good! Hopefully this will keep up all week and they will open the trails by the end of the week. I know, wishful thinking, right? Can't help but hope though!

    Keep us updated!
    You wanted more rain. We got it over night. From the looks of things there was quite a bit more than the other day.The lightning and thunder was crazy. Doubt that there is any chance the forest will open before the 4th weekend is over. If the rain keeps up, it won't be long.
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    1.24 inches just after midnight up near Tinkertown. Always good to have heavy rain with lightning. I even saw mud!

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    Re: Stage 3 Restrictions (closures) on the Sandia Rd Coming.

    I see more rain forecasted for today and tomorrow ! Hopefully closures get lifted soon. Not getting my hopes up yet but damn I'm sick of the foothills...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bg2lk15 View Post
    1.24 inches just after midnight up near Tinkertown. Always good to have heavy rain with lightning. I even saw mud!
    I knew it was a bunch of rain. We got at least that much last night over here. Bet Otero had water flowing. Damn, I miss Otero!
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    Re: Stage 3 Restrictions (closures) on the Sandia Rd Coming.

    I'm guessing you guys got more rain? The lightning last night was better than the fireworks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighSpeedChase View Post
    I'm guessing you guys got more rain? The lightning last night was better than the fireworks!

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    That was quite a show up here last night. Shook the house a few times. And yes its nice and wet again this morn. We have gotten some good rain several days in a row now. Hasn't dried out since Mon-Tues. Lets hope the FS opens things back up by the first of the week. As wet as it is, there's no reason not to. Kills my to drive by Otero to go ride in the Foot Hills.
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    Kerry, can you comment one way or another?

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    They're still mulling it over. We've gotten a lot on the south side but the north end has missed much of that moisture. I'll pass it along as soon as I hear something for sure (who knows you may hear before me...).

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