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    No good smoke alert-David Canyon

    Yesterday the Main fire that is just west of David and Bonito Canyon had a pretty big flare up. You could see the flames on MT Washington from the David Canyon PL moving north and a little east. Yesterday evening the smoke filled David Canyon and ash was even falling at my place. The fire is not expected to move east toward David Canyon. But the smoke could be a problem over the nexy few days if your planning on biking in this area.

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    Update

    Just spoke with the FS. They have had several crews cutting a fire break just west of David Canyon on FS land. That means the trail just across from Turkey Trot Trail that follows along the FS boundry is probably effected. Not telling you that you cant ride there, but probably a good area to stay away from for a bit.

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    I could see the "puffs" of smoke from base on Sunday as the fire went from tree to tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcupach
    I could see the "puffs" of smoke from base on Sunday as the fire went from tree to tree.
    You sure that wasn't Ricky?

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    Or it could have been General Nob leading the Keebler army across the forbiden GOV forest using scorched Earth techniques to prevent the "Evil Doers" from conquering his underground habitat

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    Nah, knob had better things to do...









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    You two look like your hiding from the law

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    or cousins from the deep south

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    Better yet its Nob with his SPECOPS General planning their next strategy to rule the forests of NM...one ST at a time!

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    *snicker*



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    knob dropped the wall sweeeeet

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    Only his second time ever! Butter smooth, too. Look at his face

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    The fire crews are still cutting a fire break between David Canyon and the military boundry. Looks like it will run quite a ways. Poco whatever trail across from Turkey Trot definatly is effected. Curious to see what is left after the fire crews pull out.Im sure the trail will be in need of repair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbike52
    The fire crews are still cutting a fire break between David Canyon and the military boundry. Looks like it will run quite a ways. Poco whatever trail across from Turkey Trot definatly is effected. Curious to see what is left after the fire crews pull out.Im sure the trail will be in need of repair.
    Thanks for the update, keep us posted.

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    Good job! Heres the scoop

    I had to go see for myself. There are still around 100 fire fighters in and around David Canyon As you head down you can here chain saws all up and down the canyon. I kind of expected to see a big swat cleared through the trees. Not so. At the bottom of David Canyon there were crews thining trees. First 1/4 mile of Turkey Trott has lots of cut limbs on the trail. Same on the west ridge, lots of thining. The trails are pretty much uneffected.I know that all the work being done makes us feel more at ease here. My thanks to the Fire Crews out there working hard to keep us safe. Lets go ride!

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    Here's some pretty pictures from the Telegraph

    http://www.mvtelegraph.com/index.php...-flare-up.html
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    Tunnel, Otero,David Canyon are CLOSED at this time. What a turn of events. I couldnt get the FS to give any kind of time frame. All trail heads are posted. Only the area west of 337.

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    This is all very interesting. I wonder how many of the "illegal" trails were affected by the burn and subsequent "thinning". My guess is that most of those trails will need repair and since they are illegal... Sure makes the task of closing trails much easier for FS as they were doing a half assed job as it were.

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    I spoke to a firefighter today that came in my shop. He said it's really not very bad they're just being cautious so the area should open very soon.

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    Lots of rain in the East mountains since last night. Hopefully that will put the fire out.

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    last night's news said that the FS has closed all of the forest south of I-40 and west of 337 (NM14) up to the Isleta Reservation boundaries. Wonder if the rain will make them rethink that.
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    mtbike52 will need to comment but it rained really hard all night in Cedar Crest. Hopefully the trails aren't totally f'd.

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    We got rain most of the night, and so far most of today. I dont think the fire is the issue right now. They dont want people an the area while 160 men are thinning near the boundry. As of today they are still in camp in Tijeras. Cant see how they can keep it closed more than a few days if that. The fire danger posted says MODERATE.

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    Singing in the Rain

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbike52
    We got rain most of the night, and so far most of today. I dont think the fire is the issue right now. They dont want people an the area while 160 men are thinning near the boundry. As of today they are still in camp in Tijeras. Cant see how they can keep it closed more than a few days if that. The fire danger posted says MODERATE.
    Here's the link to the FS Website.

    Updates to this should be posted in the news sidebar on the Sandia District site.

    And the area's still closed.

    http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/cibola/news/...e_081409.shtml
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    Quote Originally Posted by notaknob
    Here's some pretty pictures from the Telegraph

    http://www.mvtelegraph.com/index.php...-flare-up.html
    They dont look too pretty. But the ranger station said it is just smoldering now.
    thanks for the info Knob.

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    I wonder if they fixed that missing piece of decking going up the stairs? Maybe some curtains and a kegerator in the look out too?

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    Still Closed totay. Must be doing a lot of work in there. Makes me feel a little safer here. Wish they would get done and open it back up soon.

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    Another day and the Otero-David Canyon still closed for our safety? Crews are down to chipping the brush they cut. So what is the safety issue. Miles of trails and the crews are only working around David Canyon. I guess I might ride into a chipper. Hope they get done by the weekend.

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    I'm wondering if they are utilizing the manpower to close trails?

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    Anything is possible. Lol besided the FS will probably be watching that area for the next few weeks anyway

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    The Whisper Chipper

    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    I'm wondering if they are utilizing the manpower to close trails?
    Based upon this update,

    A masticator (chipper) completed line on the north end of Forest Road (FR) 106. Line is complete from FR 106 to Otero Canyon. Mastication (chipping) and disposal of slash will continue for 7 miles.
    I'm going to hazard a guess that portions of Un Poco Loco and a lot of Pirito Bonito have had portions masticated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notaknob
    I'm going to hazard a guess that portions of Un Poco Loco and a lot of Pirito Bonito have had portions emasculated.
    Fixed it for you.


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    The Man Who Sold the World

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    Fixed it for you.

    You want your growler back?
    Full please. With beer. Not PBR. I might have Friday free for a ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notaknob
    I might have Friday free for a ride.
    You better get that approved from Byran first

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    notaknob 'thinks' he's a double agent who gets paid in beer, when he's actually a just a patsy.

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    REM this weekend, again?

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    You?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notaknob
    Full please. With beer. Not PBR. I might have Friday free for a ride.

    Not PBR... no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supramk388
    You better get that approved from Byran first
    Sounds like a lot of paperwork.

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    You better cut it out Andy, some of us may actually start to think that you have a personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    You?
    Not sure what I am doing but it has to be big bike friendly. I not strong enough to climb RR on my DH bike so it would have to be REM shuttles only for me. I got a few races coming up so I may just team up with the DH boys for shuttles, not sure yet.

    Nice job on graveyard drop We you showing off with flats and clip in shoes again

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyN
    Sounds like a lot of paperwork.
    I hear it can be

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    As tears go by

    Quote Originally Posted by supramk388
    :nono: You better get that approved from Byran first :p
    You've just bumped past the 1k MTBR posting level. You get a frees internets.



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    Quote Originally Posted by supramk388
    Nice job on graveyard drop We you showing off with flats and clip in shoes again


    Negative, I won't be doing that again for a while. Finally nailed it without bottoming. The landing needs some work. I may head out there after the next rain.

    I was calling to see if you wanted to hit shuttles. Is your phone off or are you screening me again?

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    Triple H

    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    notaknob 'thinks' he's a double agent who gets paid in beer, when he's actually a just a patsy.
    Now what is the message there? The message is that there are known "knowns." There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know. So when we do the best we can and we pull all this information together, and we then say well that's basically what we see as the situation, that is really only the known knowns and the known unknowns. And each year, we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notaknob
    And each year, we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns.
    Well we all know that you know too much. How is that even possible?

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    Another Theory Shot To Shat

    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Well we all know that you know too much. How is that even possible?:confused:
    Sorry about that. It was like shooting fish in a barrel.



    Take short breaths, maybe breath in a paper bag. The dizziness should subside shortly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    You better cut it out Andy, some of us may actually start to think that you have a personality.

    Don't get jealous, I just stopped in to chat for a bit.

    It'll be back to the mtbkr123 show in no time... week, after week, after week of re-runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyN
    Don't get jealous, I just stopped in to chat for a bit.

    It'll be back to the mtbkr123 show in no time... week, after week, after week of re-runs.
    Hopefully you will bring some better/original material, then

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    Hope it's cleared and open soon..
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    I sent Karen Takai of the FS an e-mail to see if I could get an idea when we can get back in. Her response was( As soon as the enmates and equipment are done chipping the brush that was cut.) No time frame was given. Got the feeling it will be closed all weekend.

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