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    Ski or MTB?!?! Tough Choices

    Since the MTB community in NM seems to be a good mix of MTBers and Skiers I thought I would throw this out there since I believe Skiing/Snowboarding is as adicting as MTBing so here goes....
    I had to make a choice......

    Wanted to ride my MTB but the new boots and skis have been calling my name all summer.

    Went to Wolf Creek yesterday....Cheap lift tix, PLENTY of snow and tons of untouched powder in the trees and edges. The new boots HURT like hell that morning but they mellowed out after I made a few adjustments. The LINE skis ROCKED of course.

    I thought biking would have at least conditioned my legs a little bit for skiing
    I was doing pretty good till the around 12:00. I started getting really sloppy skiing down areas that normally dont take much effort...end result I hit a mogul WRONG and flew through the air landing in some deep POW... I took 10 minutes to crawl out of the powder before I could ski again....I was LMAO the whole time...what a rush...But the legs couldnt take much more....I figured it was better to hang it up for the day then to push it and end up hurting myself seriously..thus ending the entire year for skiing and biking. There are already enough broken bikers (Knob, Rory, and me,) over the last year I dont need to be the next

    Unfortunately I ended up leaving earlier than I planned due to a big storm rolling in. Glad I did The roads turned to solid ice through Dulce and through the Apache resevation. It started snowing heavy but visibility was still good enough to cruise at 60mph...It ended up dumping 21 inches more yesterday per the WC website.
    Regardless its great to have 2 great sports to spend tons of cash just to crash
    I cant wait for Taos to open up 100% and Pajarito to follow for skiing

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    Taos

    Last weekend I skied Sipapu to warm up my legs but rode 3-Bears/Cabra the following day just before the huge storm came in and blanketed Los Alamos. I XC-skied twice this past week and hiked up Pajarito one night with Ben for a 2-3' powder run in the dark with the our Magicshine's we bought for The Burner (worked great ). Today I just got back from a much-better-than-expected-early-season-day at Taos . They've already got some of the ridge open For me the biking, XC-skiing, and hiking Pajarito put my legs in perfect condition for bumps and steeps at Taos today. Boarding doesn't burn my legs as much as skiing and that's why I skied at Sipapu last weekend for an easy warm-up. I also prefer boarding unless the conditions are boreing .

    By the way (and I hope he doesn't mind me transferring his quote from FB), this is from David Filbey of www.swfreeride.com (now it's a new snow sport website): "Wolf Creek critical flaw... no on site child care. Our 10 mo. old baby is in pagosa. We are stuck in south fork due to avalanche on the pass. @&$%! "


    Here are some pics from today:

    Open Ridge (may want rock skis )!
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    Myself & Ben just before hiking to Tresckow off HighLine Ridge. TJ, my family coerced me into getting this bright-ars jacket so they wouldn't lose me in the clouds. Now you know how to find me in Taos.
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    Ben at bottom of Tresckow:
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    Our last run down.
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    My daughter, Michelle, on Inferno after ripping up Al's with me on our last run of the day. Al's was in much better shape than Inferno. Speakin of major injuries, she had to take three months off from biking after her liver laceration last summer but was all ready for ski season :
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    Speaking of skiing. My little guy has decided to join the dark side. We are looking for a 118cm snowboard and size 4 boots. Anyone have anything in that realm that has been outgrown? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg de taos
    Speaking of skiing. My little guy has decided to join the dark side. We are looking for a 118cm snowboard and size 4 boots. Anyone have anything in that realm that has been outgrown? Thanks.
    Doh, just got rid of an old one about that size at the ski swap. It had been collecting dust for years. Try craigslist.org and EBay.

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    I had a dilemma last night : go board Wolf Creek, or ride my new bike. I made a last minute plan change and rode the bike. I know I missed out on some fine powder, but damn it I love this new bike!

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    Ski SF was great all weekend. It's been drizzling snow non-stop and stayed out of the sun really well with cloud cover only over the top of the mountain. With a keen eye, one can find a lot of soft snow to romp in.
    Just reserved a few days in Silverton for Feb. with a crew of awesome skiers. Wrapping up final details on plans to hit Lake Tahoe and Wyoming this year also. Looking forward to some good stuff this year.

    Let's keep this thread going for some good snow stoke & photos, as well as some good Bando riding pics to remind us what the end of ski season holds for us. Hopefully, soon we'll see a pic of Bruce getting out on his bike again in the cold foothills

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    Fook skiing, I play golf in the winter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Fook skiing, I play golf in the winter


    I knew it!


    Actually I'm still riding and planning for a multi-day unsupported ride this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crux
    I knew it!


    Actually I'm still riding and planning for a multi-day unsupported ride this summer.
    Wherebouts?

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    What the ##ll , We need some bike porn on this thread. Be tough, ride all winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Wherebouts?
    North of Ouray to Durango.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crux
    North of Ouray to Durango.
    I'd like to do something like that but maybe from Cumbres up to Del Norte.

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    I think a bikepacking would be awesome. Are you planning a solo adventure Andy?


    http://www.bikepacking.net/

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    Great Family pictures....You get the best of both worlds Biking and Skiing/boarding

    Im heading to Kansas City this weekend so I wont be skiing...but you can bet your last donut I will be over the Holiday break!

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    Damn Skippy
    Keep the stoke going...maybe we can turn a few Bandos into mor than just MTB riders

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    I want to ride the Durango to Silverton to Ouray this next summer...ya I bought a road bike...ya I wear tight spandex bibs with no shirt...ya I pour oil on my manly chest...
    ya ya ya....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcupach
    Great Family pictures....You get the best of both worlds Biking and Skiing/boarding

    Im heading to Kansas City this weekend so I wont be skiing...but you can bet your last donut I will be over the Holiday break!
    Thanks, Pajarito opens Friday . The Mother chair will be really good for the weekend but I'm not sure how long it will last until the next storm. I'll try not to cut up all the powder .

    By the way, David F. did get stuck in South Fork Sunday night with his 10mo. baby in Pagosa. Both routes back to Pagosa were closed but luckily the childcare was able to take care of his baby overnight. What a nightmare !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun
    I think a bikepacking would be awesome. Are you planning a solo adventure Andy?


    http://www.bikepacking.net/
    Might be solo or a few out riding, Don't know yet. Already have most the camping gear from backpacking so should be an easy conversion. Good site by the way.

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    Here's your chance... do it in a day!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaGoat
    Here's your chance... do it in a day!!!

    http://coloradoes.wordpress.com/swes...els-loop-bfsl/

    Planning to climb & ski the Snake Couloir up Mt Sneffels this spring. It's like a 6800 ft ascent from Yankee Boy Basin, below, then ski down. It's STEEP & BEAUTIFUL.
    That race sounds bada$$. I've ridden Deep Creek at Telluride. It's a pretty cool trail.

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    12/18/09 Dawn Patrol

    Hit up a dawn patrol at Ski Santa Fe this morning before work with my homie, Brooklyn (the white dog).
    It was actually a beautiful, colorful morning with some great windblown powder deposits where I skied. Skinned up Gayway to the top then hit right side of Roadrunner into First Tracks then over to Fall Line. All great soft wind-blown powdery snow up high.


    Santa Fe city lights


    Brooklyn making sure the snow cat knows he’s the king of this hill.






    Snow was really dry and fluffy.


    Gorgeous morning sky. This photo does not do it justice.


    Good windblown powder in the trees through First Tracks




    Brooklyn is hauling a$$ back toward Roadrunner to Fall Line. It’s like he knows where I want to go…


    More great powder


    I’m still waiting for another storm, darnitt!!! Can't beat having a dawn like this before work, though.

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    Cool dog TJ. Maybe next Wednesday for snow, give me one day before my pass is blacked out.

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    Nice TJ, you should have hit Pajarito this morning for opening day. All the good stuff was open with powder. Now it's all skiied up and waiting for the next storm like you.

    Greg, since we got the family pass at Taos we have no blackout dates but is it worth going during Holiday week or will it be packed?

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    Neal, it is busy in the base area with people skiing in blue jeans and cowboy hats but I find that all the locals stay away (or are blacked out) and the good stuff is wide open, Most people that ski a week or two every year don't hit the ridge of anything with a black diamond on it. Watch out on the return trail though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg de taos
    Neal, it is busy in the base area with people skiing in blue jeans and cowboy hats but I find that all the locals stay away (or are blacked out) and the good stuff is wide open, Most people that ski a week or two every year don't hit the ridge of anything with a black diamond on it. Watch out on the return trail though.
    Hmmmm, bluejeans at the coldest time of year, hat might be interesting to see . If we get some pow over the holiday it sounds like I might have the ridge all to myself . Thanks for the info and we'll all pray for more snow.

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    The Zuni Mts have some good snow, although the skiing is XC for the most part. Went from biking to skiing in 2 days this year, looking forward to a good snow winter up here!
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    Brazos Backcountry

    Up on top of the Brazos... definitely want to ride around up here next summer...
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    Santa

    We had the goods at Pajarito today . Somehow they screwed up the initial ski report saying they only had 4" but they really got over 7" and it snowed all day long . My daughter decided to play Santa :

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    Quote Originally Posted by nealpederson
    We had the goods at Pajarito today . Somehow they screwed up the initial ski report saying they only had 4" but they really got over 7" and it snowed all day long . My daughter decided to play Santa :

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    Nice Neal. I hit up Ski Santa Fe today. We did a ton of hiking to get the real good stuff. Best day of the year, for sure... well... at least fro skiing.
    On the down side, I totaled my Jeep & some rich guy's brand new BMW on the way home and don't have a car anymore.
    At least I can borrow my gallery's truck for the time being. Also, I'm lucky that it is a 4x4 so I can drive through storms to get to the snow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by delnorte
    Nice Neal. I hit up Ski Santa Fe today. We did a ton of hiking to get the real good stuff. Best day of the year, for sure... well... at least fro skiing.
    On the down side, I totaled my Jeep & some rich guy's brand new BMW on the way home and don't have a car anymore.
    At least I can borrow my gallery's truck for the time being. Also, I'm lucky that it is a 4x4 so I can drive through storms to get to the snow!

    I hope everyone was OK, Teeg! Bummer 'bout your jeep. Any idea what the BB is on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by delnorte
    Nice Neal. I hit up Ski Santa Fe today. We did a ton of hiking to get the real good stuff. Best day of the year, for sure... well... at least fro skiing.
    On the down side, I totaled my Jeep & some rich guy's brand new BMW on the way home and don't have a car anymore.
    At least I can borrow my gallery's truck for the time being. Also, I'm lucky that it is a 4x4 so I can drive through storms to get to the snow!
    Ouch, sorry about your Jeep! My son's friend was coming back from Pajarito last night behind Ben in his truck and a snowplow hit him head on. Fortunately it wasn't at high speed but the front of the Isuzu got smashed up pretty good and they broke the plow. Dom was in the passenger seat with him but no one got hurt. We suspect the snowplow driver "!should not have been driving!" but we don't know what the police did after we left the scene.

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    damm teeg. I hope you're okay man.

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    Sorry to hear that.
    I hope you are GTG and get a new ride soon enough that it doesnt effect MTB and skiing

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    Oooch!! sorry to hear TJ I hope youre ok man.
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    Thanks for the well wishes, fellas. I wasn't affected physically at all & neither was anyone else. Sad to see my car go, but I'm actually excited to get something new. Plus it will be nice to have my gallery's 4x4 to use until I find what I want. It will be able to get me to all of the skiing I want to do.
    Glad to hear Dom & his buddy are OK. Especially on that road & the situation they faced.
    Anyway, Happy Holidays to all & be stoked about our white Xmas!

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    Is Pajarito powder all skied out?
    Is the base worth going for the day or can you see the dirt/rocks?

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    If I can get rid of this cold Im heading to Wolf Creek Sunday

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcupach
    Is Pajarito powder all skied out?
    Is the base worth going for the day or can you see the dirt/rocks?
    Yeah, with the exception of some side-of-run pow it's pretty much all skied out and now it's mostly groomers and bump runs. The base is holding up well but there are areas with dirt and rocks showing. I used my rock board today just so I didn't have to worry about it. Man, it was cold today ! My truck said 9 degrees when I got there and when I left this afternoon. A ski patroller I know said Taos was even colder yesterday.

    I want to ride my new bike Sunday but I don't feel like driving to ABQ and Nambe area looked like it still has snow from the Pajarito view. Maybe it's shallow enough down there to ride on though.

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    Today was not as cold, but it was chilly. Got up to 13. Yesterday it was cold. 4 air temp at 3:00 with the wind blowing at 40 - 50. I heard the wind chill was almost -40. Felt like it. Had the place to myself though with some nice wind blown powder. Today it was crowded and pretty much all skied up. I am blacked out all week and the back country isn't really very safe right now, that October snow is junk with everything sitting on top of it. Might be a tough year out of bounds.

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    Today XC'ing at Ellis in the Sandias (cool and perfect)!!!
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    The backcountry is getting good...

    My buddy Pedro & I have been waiting way too long to get into the high backcountry and ski some deep, dry powder. We figured after this week’s storm, things were worth checking out, so off we went, hiking, climbing, skinning, rock-hopping, scrambling and post-holing. Our efforts were rewarded with over 2 feet of fresh, untouched powder…

    Beautiful, sunny day. Pedro was scrambling right away.


















    The Unknown Renegades representin’. One for the Bandoleros at 12,000 ft.














    The goods... THIS is what we came for


    Pedro rippin’ in the powder, Unknown Renegade style.






    It was a good day…

    Made some snowshoe friends on the way out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delnorte
    My buddy Pedro & I have been waiting way too long to get into the high backcountry and ski some deep, dry powder. We figured after this week’s storm, things were worth checking out, so off we went, hiking, climbing, skinning, rock-hopping, scrambling and post-holing. Our efforts were rewarded with over 2 feet of fresh, untouched powder…

    It was a good day…
    Sweet photos there delnorte, I love the trees shot.... nicely spaced!! Hmmmmmmmmmm Can't wait until the next storm!
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    Looks like fun TJ. Check your PM's now and then. How were conditions on the open faces? Has been a bit scetchy up here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg de taos
    Looks like fun TJ. Check your PM's now and then. How were conditions on the open faces? Has been a bit scetchy up here.
    Greg, there are no open areas in this tour. It's all100% tree skiing.

    Sorry I didn't get your pm. Sunday would have been awesome w/ you there. The salad dressing bottle would have been a welcome addition.
    If you need to hit some backcountry w/ less avy danger, let me know, and come down here.
    As far as the Telluride possibility goes, give me a call. I'd be down for the for sure. Let's go over some ideas...

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    Damn, Teeg you look totally in your element. Makes me want to put on a pair of skis , but, the first/last time I did was on a double black in Taos. After spending an hour in a drift, I was ready to plop myself down on a bar stool for the rest of the day

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    That is some great pictures TJ
    Nothing like making friends

    As usual I forgot my camera
    I went to Wolf Creek yesterday with my daughter. The roads where great via 550 then through the Apache reservation Dulce & Lumberton all the way to WC.

    WARNING: Police patrol WC pass from Pagosa bigtime...3 cars waiting for anyone speeding...I got nabbed last year it cost me $150

    WC STATUS:
    Beautiful bluebird day...a bit on the cold side 10 in the shade 20 in the sun...and there was ZERO wind so it was perfect. The slopes where Groomed/PP/Windblown.
    I was able to find a few inches of powder stashs in the trees but most of the good stuff was skied out. The slope didnt have that many people...they only filled 2 parking lots.

    Im still breaking in my new boots...the first 2 runs hurt like hell...after a quick adjustment in the lodge I was ready to ski again. The Technica Magmas are stiff at 115 flex rating but they dont go high enough up my leg to support my entire effort. Regardless they are better than my old Solomns @ 85 flex!! Im still figuring out how to ski my Line Prophet 90...they are FAST...but they dont stop as well as conventional parabolics....It has to be the twin tips...(and my lack of skill) but Im working on it...Mogul work was better today also...I just needed to get more aggresive and commit to the fall line and start planting the poles and hopping into the turn.

    As with all things fun it will involve a bit of pain and excitement!
    I wrecked pretty hard in the trees off the main trails (no I wasnt poaching)...My tips hit a tree and I spun around landing on my back and started to tumble...I heard the bones in my my neck go "Snap-Crakle-Pop" just like at the chiroprator...I was scared I didnt move for a few seconds and then I said "GET UP NOW!" Luckily I only popped a few joints in my bones...At least I didnt have a yard sale...of course my skis and legs where a twisted mess stuck in the waist deep snow and I couldnt stand up without taking off the skis I finally made it out of there huffing and puffing...Ready to go again...of course Hannah was waiting at the bottom and she laughed at my dumb a$$.
    Hannah seemed to have a great time. She started gaining back her confidance and speeding up and dodging trees...We got seperated and I had to wait on her at the Treasure lift...when she finally showed up she was exhausted...she managed to find a powder stash in a DITCH and she didnt have enough speed to get through it....needless to say she had to swim...lol
    Another GREAT DAY SKIING IN THE ROCKY's!!!
    Im hoping to go Pajarito Friday then do an overnight 2-day trip to WC or Purg with my neighbor...Of course if Taos gets hammerd Im heading there...There is a storm moving in so Im praying for POWDER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn. Biker123
    Damn, Teeg you look totally in your element. Makes me want to put on a pair of skis , but, the first/last time I did was on a double black in Taos. After spending an hour in a drift, I was ready to plop myself down on a bar stool for the rest of the day
    The guy in all those pics is my buddy, Pedro. The pics were from my camera, so no pics of me.
    But yes, that's my element for sure, and my winter will be much happier as the backcountry downhill terrain becomes more accessible. Especially the big lines. But the avy danger will probably keep the biggest best lines in NM out of consideration this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delnorte
    The guy in all those pics is my buddy, Pedro. The pics were from my camera, so no pics of me.
    But yes, that's my element for sure, and my winter will be much happier as the backcountry downhill terrain becomes more accessible. Especially the big lines. But the avy danger will probably keep the biggest best lines in NM out of consideration this year.
    I know it wasn't you, but your photographs are telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delnorte
    But yes, that's my element for sure, and my winter will be much happier as the backcountry downhill terrain becomes more accessible. Especially the big lines. But the avy danger will probably keep the biggest best lines in NM out of consideration this year.
    Did someone say biggest best lines?
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    Quote Originally Posted by notaknob
    Did someone say biggest best lines?
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