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    NM Fat Bikes?

    I've been following this guy's build and it's got me thinking about maybe owning one.


    Any of you NM riders have one? What's your build and what parts would you recommend/not recommend?

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    They make sence if you allready have 4 other bikes

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    I don't own one, but I test rode a Mukluk from The Kickstand earlier this year (just a quick NFH loop). It was a real blast to ride to say the least. I don't think I would want to climb Mt Taylor on it, but for a fun go over everything monster truck-like bike it fit the bill really well.

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    I've got 3, so I'm close.

    I saw the one at Kickstand, but I need a L/XL frame.
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    They look like alot of fun, but I'd rather have a friend buy one. Look like somthing youd ride 6 times a year maybe 10 rides the first year.

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    Well, from the way things are going so far, it's not like you would need a fat bike this winter.
    They do look fun though. I want another better single speed or a fat bike.

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    I see one at work sometimes. Blacksheep fatbike with a truss fork, it is a pretty sweet bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    I see one at work sometimes. Blacksheep fatbike with a truss fork, it is a pretty sweet bike.
    While not a fat bike, my buddy just for a Black Sheep built with a truss fork - he loves it.

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    So its settled. Mtbnate and calhoun will go halfers on a moon lander and let me ride it when ever i want.

    Im glad we had this conversation im in a much better place

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    Mystical Powers

    I got to see this ride at Interbike, it was difficult to walk away, amazing thoughts of impossible descents, (and difficult climbs).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    I see one at work sometimes. Blacksheep fatbike with a truss fork, it is a pretty sweet bike.
    I've seen one at work too, maybe the same one. I think they are about $8k so if I had one I wouldn't park it outside a building. Might keep it in my bedroom instead of the garage too.

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    Maybe, if you've been a bad kid all year, Krampus will bring you something:

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    NM Fatbike

    I've had mine about year.
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    Useful for about any terrain. Ride washes, cattle trails, single track and snow.


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    Lots of terrain in NM for my new moonie. Love it!

    They are big, I went with one frame size smaller than a XC bike and it feels real good.

    Recommend low gears and a bigger disc in the front.

    The tires are bigger around than 29ers, so you are very stable at low speeds and the grip lets you go up extremely steep and loose stuff but pedal effort is increased. I have a 9er rear cassette and the 20-33 rings which puts the pedal effort (total gear ratio) back to a typical 9-speed 26er.

    It goes very fast downhill and the 160mm front disc gets hot so I went up to 185.

    The stock BFLs have tons of grip and roll easy but in serious snow you might want Bud&Lou.
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    Man... I so want one of these..
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    at least I think I do...

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    Nate - I'll be able to comment pretty soon. Took the plunge last month and put a deposit down on a moonlander. I get to pick it up Saturday

    FWIW, here's how I've rationalized the build. I mostly wanted something that would be useful for exploring arroyos and less used trials that are in poor condition. Fat bike traction sounded like a good idea.

    Opted for Bud/Lou tire combo since I figure more traction the better. Not terribly worried about weight or being slow, mostly just want to stay on the bike! Went tubeless since it's the only want to deal with mesquite and the like - especially with this much rubber on the ground.

    On the same note, I wanted the lowest gearing possible for steeper climbs, so switched to the 20/33 front MWOD chain rings and the 29er 9-speed cassette with the 12-36T sprockets. Actually have 38T and 13T sprockets on order, so I'll shift the range a little lower still on the cassette (ditch the 12T and 14T sprockets, add the 38T and 13T instead).

    Other than that, switched out the rotors for 203/185 combo since that's what I'm used to and couldn't see 160mm rotors holding up in the mountains.

    I'll let you know what I think of it in a couple of weeks.

    FYI - There's a guy working for the winter at 2WD on Central who toured down from up north on his fat bike for the season. Haven't spoken to him yet but he could be a good resource. Jeff's been great working with me on my build.

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    first ride on the new moonie at white mesa:






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    Man... I really would like to demo something like that

    What shop did you get it built up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate View Post
    Man... I really would like to demo something like that

    What shop did you get it built up?
    Next time I'm riding up near ABQ (I'm from Socorro) I'll let you know.

    Two Wheel Drive on Central built it for me. Very happy with the whole experience.

    BTW - the bike is everything I expected and more. What I hadn't anticipated is how much fun it is for downhill or to huck around. It's so damn stable that the sucker is fast with a little gravity assist!

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    What was the approx cost of the build (if you dont mind me asking)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate View Post
    What was the approx cost of the build (if you dont mind me asking)?
    Retail / stock is $2450 for a 2013. Out the door this one was about $2800.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robselina View Post
    Retail / stock is $2450 for a 2013. Out the door this one was about $2800.
    That's about what I was thinking..

    I'd have to heavily modify my bike racks, or buy a pickup truck to haul it!



    I'll buy ya a couuple rounds at an ABQ brewery of your choice for demo sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate View Post
    I'd have to heavily modify my bike racks, or buy a pickup truck to haul it!
    What kind of racks?

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    I'll buy ya a couuple rounds at an ABQ brewery of your choice for demo sometime.

    It's a deal

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    I have a Thule T2
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate View Post
    I have a Thule T2
    Looks like people have done it before.



    Maybe remove the hardware that cradles the front wheel and straps the back one in. Bolt on a piece of aluminum channel or PVC to cradle the tires? Check out these links:

    Thule T2 Mods for Fat Tires?
    Fat Rack?

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    Sweet ride, Rob.
    I don't need one, but man, I want one. That bag in the middle is ultra-cool. Imagine what you could pack in there.
    The Dude abides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpinata View Post
    Sweet ride, Rob.
    I don't need one, but man, I want one. That bag in the middle is ultra-cool. Imagine what you could pack in there.
    Could carry enough beer & tequila to get a certain local mtb group thru a whole day of riding, almost.


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    Quote Originally Posted by robselina View Post
    first ride on the new moonie at white mesa:





    Nice air pic..


    You should check out how "flickable" these bikes can be:
    Fat Bike Air and Action Shots on Tech Terrain
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpinata View Post
    That bag in the middle is ultra-cool. Imagine what you could pack in there.
    It has a nice little internal divider, and the back cavity seems to fit three 1-pint cans nice and secure

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate View Post
    Nice air pic..

    You should check out how "flickable" these bikes can be:
    Fat Bike Air and Action Shots on Tech Terrain
    Thanks, that's one of my favorite threads on MTBR right now

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    I've been doing some research & looking at my options and came across this bike from a shop that I've done business with in the past (bought a couple of Titus Exogrid 29rs from Ben). I'm looking for a geared Moonlander but thought I'd drop a pic and link here just in case someone might be interested in it:

    Milltown Cycles: Drop bar SS MTB Pugsley.

    $1950
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    I've been debating too: Fatty or studded tires. Love the colors and the steel but the drop bars gotta go.

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    Amazing, truly all-terrain. I see there is even a Bando option...
    Surly Pugsley....(9min edit) - YouTube

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    Got to sample a Surly Necromancer at TwoWheel Dr this morning. It was one size too small for me, but I was able to get the feel of the fatties.

    I drank the kool-aid and I'm hooked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate View Post
    I drank the kool-aid and I'm hooked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bg2lk15 View Post
    Amazing, truly all-terrain.
    Exactly.

    It's easy to think of them as niche bikes, but they really are very versatile.

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    Came across these fatties down in southern NM:

    official global fatbike day picture & aftermath thread
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    I have a pugsley surly, have had it since September. It has made me a much stronger and happier rider!
    And it's only been in the snow twice.

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    Havin a blast out here just outside of Gallup. We have a two mile loop out the back door on a ridge and it is fun as all get out to be the first one out on some freshies. Blasting through the drifts brings a smile from ear to ear.

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    I can't wait to join the fat bikes culture.. I've located a Moonlander in my size and adding a Bud/Lou tire combo and bigger rotors. I'll be keeping the stock Big Fat Larrys as backups tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stopbreakindown View Post
    Havin a blast out here just outside of Gallup. We have a two mile loop out the back door on a ridge and it is fun as all get out to be the first one out on some freshies. Blasting through the drifts brings a smile from ear to ear.
    Thanks for the response.. any pix?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate View Post
    Any of you NM riders have a fatbike? What's your build and what parts would you recommend/not recommend?
    Let's see - here in Las Cruces, I've got 2 fatbikes;

    A Fatback, 3x9 gears, 100mm width rims, a Lefty, and SkinnyLarry rear/BigFatLarry front tires.


    And a Moonlander, S3X 3spd fixed hub, MWOD crankset/rings, 100mm rims, BFL front, Lou rear (not in pic)


    I spec'ed my Fatback out for maximum flotation - something to cruise arroyos with was the plan. That got me 100mm rims back before you could get bigger than 3.7 tires, but it helped anyways. My riding buddy got a Pugsley (complete), and I could out ride him in the soft stuff when the only difference was 100 vs 65mm rims. Then I got my hands on BigFat Larry! This tire will fit the back of the Fatback on the 100mm rim - but you're gonna kiss your first three cogs of the cassette goodbye with a standard crank in granny gear.

    Then I built the Moonlander - then my buddy bought a Moonlander (complete). It is sooooooo nice to have the fattest tires on the fattest rims. I still cruise the arroyos on the Fatback when I'm exploring, or just want more gears - but the Moonie is easier to ride except for the lack of super low gears.

    I recently picked up a Lou (4.8" knobby!) for the Moonie, and I have to say it is a better tire than the BFL. Climbing hills while standing is now noticeably easier, and even arroyo cruise is a bit easier - I must have been slipping the tire more than I thought.

    So - you already got the bug. You rode a fatbike and loved it. My experience says get the fattest rims and tires you can. Right now, that's a Moonlander. BFL's are good, but Lou is better - gonna try a Bud front when I can. Also going to put either a Nate or a Lou on the Fatback. That may require offset double crankset rather than a triple.

    I can go into more detail if you're planning on building up a frameset, but that's the basics.
    This isn't a "you're doing it wrong" topic.

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    Oh yeah. Me and the Fatback in our natural environment:
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    This isn't a "you're doing it wrong" topic.

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    I've got a line on a brand new complete Moonlander with a couple mods.

    Can't wait to get it here!

    Thanks for jumping in this thread with your info & pix. Awesome rigs ya got.
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    Question:
    Are you guys running your tires tubless with Stans/etc?
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    Yep, split tube method on the large marge rims. Just set up a friends clownshoes tubeless yesterday. Remove tire/toob >
    lay down gorilla tape (took three wraps, outside, outside, middle) >
    punch hole for stem >
    replace toob and tire>
    air up to 30psi and let sit so the adhesive adheres to the rim strip/rim >
    remove toob >
    install presta core >
    add 5-6 scoops of stan's >
    wrap a cinch strap all the way around the center of the tire and tighten >
    air up with a compressor to seat the bead @ 25psi >
    let sit over night >
    drop pressure >
    ride.

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