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    Considering a move to Las Vegas

    Well I may have an opportunity to move to Las Vegas for work. I'm currently in Los Angeles and am from Detroit originally.

    I've only been to the Strip a couple times, and know thats not all that Vegas is about . . . what's life like there for a young 30s married couple without kids? How is the cost of living? Here in LA, it costs me a body part in rent each month for very modest accommodations.

    I assume the riding is stellar . . . can you ride year round (thinking about summer heat here)?

    I realize this is an open ended, vague question . . .
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    Cost of living isnt cheap anymore but its not LA either. If your going to rent you can get a nice house for about 1200 a month. Riding is awesome with different trail systems spread out all over town not to mention stellar riding in Utah a few hours away(think Brian Head alpine riding for the summer months) In the summer I start riding in the late evenings and ride into the night so invest in a good riding light.
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    It's Vegas, your a couple just coming into your 30's. Vegas will be whatever you make of it... You want quiet, peaceful, family oriented neighborhoods? We have that, think Summerlin, Anthem, Providence, Mountains Edge, etc... . Want partying, gambling and your typical(or not so typical) night of debauchery, were the best place in the world.
    We're cheaper than LA by far for housing and cost of living but Shawn's right it's not cheap like it used to be...
    The riding here has come along way in the last 10 years or so...we have pretty much a lil bit of everything. When it's in the 100's generally most of us ride early or late to avoid the heat, but a 30 min drive puts you in Kyle Cyn at Mt Charleston which will be considerably cooler, again Shawn's right above, a 2-3 hr drive north or east puts you in Southern Utah(St George(check it out for sure), Brianhead, thunder mtn, etc) east is AZ and well there's so much good stuff in AZ I don't know where to start... BOTH places So. Utah and AZ have world class MTBing as well as Las Vegas IMHO.
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    Hey, cool to hear your considering Vegas. I am actually moving there myself next month, just lining up a job right now. I will be living in Summerlin with a couple friends. I'm glad to hear that the trails are pretty awesome. Here in Ohio I hardly call it mountain biking lol. I can't wait! Hopefully there are some nice people to meet and ride with in the Vegas area
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRacer13 View Post
    Hopefully there are some nice people to meet and ride with in the Vegas area
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    Well had the first interview today and it went pretty well . . .

    I'm wavering on the idea of moving there. I don't know anyone there, it's super friggin' hot and there's no water (I've never lived more than 10 miles from a major body of water). But cost of living is a fraction of what it is in LA, the weather isn't THAT different, and I can still ride year-round.

    Are there places to live where you can ride straight to the trails? I have that luxury here in LA, and it adds tremendously to the enjoyment factor I get from biking.
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    Come try the trails and let them speak for themselves. They are the whole reason I moved here and I am still psyched about the move!! Vegas is a pretty fun town too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Well had the first interview today and it went pretty well . . .

    I'm wavering on the idea of moving there. I don't know anyone there, it's super friggin' hot and there's no water (I've never lived more than 10 miles from a major body of water). But cost of living is a fraction of what it is in LA, the weather isn't THAT different, and I can still ride year-round.

    Are there places to live where you can ride straight to the trails? I have that luxury here in LA, and it adds tremendously to the enjoyment factor I get from biking.
    There are at least 3 different areas of town where you could ride straight from your house on to a trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaleon View Post
    There are at least 3 different areas of town where you could ride straight from your house on to a trail.
    Cool! What would those areas be? Summerlin? Green Valley?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Cool! What would those areas be? Summerlin? Green Valley?
    Summerlin, Anthem, Henderson(hendertucky), Southern Highlands, Mountains Edge, etc....
    As far as major bodies of water....
    Lake Mead - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    If I were to move here I'd look at Mountains Edge or anywhere near the south/west corner of vegas. It would be nice to be able to ride right to Cottonwood. In my opinion it's the premier trail system in the valley and as I found out Saturday it keeps magically growing new trails....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelsonccc View Post
    If I were to move here I'd look at Mountains Edge or anywhere near the south/west corner of vegas. It would be nice to be able to ride right to Cottonwood. In my opinion it's the premier trail system in the valley and as I found out Saturday it keeps magically growing new trails....
    Prove it! Pics and locations please......

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    Bears Best Trails (BBT) is located near Bears Best Golf Course; This is in Summerlin and I recommend living as close to here as you can afford. I live near Fort Apache Rd and Warm Springs Ave and ride my MTB approx 6 miles from my house to BBT. Also Las Vegas Cyclery is about 2 miles from BBT; this a good place to start BBT rides from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcall8 View Post
    Prove it! Pics and locations please......
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelsonccc View Post
    If I were to move here I'd look at Mountains Edge or anywhere near the south/west corner of vegas. It would be nice to be able to ride right to Cottonwood. In my opinion it's the premier trail system in the valley and as I found out Saturday it keeps magically growing new trails....
    You can easily access cottonwood right from bbt... hint, hint!!!
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    Bears Best Trails (BBT) is located near Bears Best Golf Course; This is in Summerlin and I recommend living as close to here as you can afford. I live near Fort Apache Rd and Warm Springs Ave and ride my MTB approx 6 miles from my house to BBT. Also Las Vegas Cyclery is about 2 miles from BBT; this a good place to start BBT rides from.
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    I saw that junction heading south out of the wash a few months ago. I'll have to check it out. We're headed to charleston tonight. Nothing like pine trees and darkness.

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    I have lived in both places. Born and raised in Vegas and lived in Fullerton for 4 years of school. Vegas is definitely hotter in the summer and colder in the winter. Come here in mid July and imagine that heat for at least 3-4 months. I'm fine with it, but some people can't take it very well. I'll go for a ride after work in the summer when it's still 110 outside and I'm fine as long as I have lots of water. Yes we have Lake Mead close by, but it's not the so. Cal beach. Boat, ski, wakeboard, jet ski, wind surf, it's great, but it's not s. Cal beach. Riding is great here. Definitely year round riding, but you can't compare the number of trails we have here to the number of trails in So. Cal. There are way more riding option in So. Cal. The suggestions above for a place you can ride to the trails are great. I live in Henderson and I can ride to some trails from my house within 10 minutes. Other places are the same. Come here in the summer with your bike and ride the trails and see if it's for you.
    It's an awesome place to live, but it has it's drawbacks like all places. Many people more here and get into the night party scene or gambling and get burned. The city away from the strip is just like any other city, but we still have all of the advantages of the strip being close by.
    I love to visit So. Cal., but I would never live there. I hate planning my life around rush hour. Traffic here is fantastic compared to SC traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaFred View Post
    You can easily access cottonwood right from bbt... hint, hint!!!
    ^^^this is sound advice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKA View Post
    . . . Riding is great here. Definitely year round riding, but you can't compare the number of trails we have here to the number of trails in So. Cal. There are way more riding option in So. Cal. . . .
    Really? That seems counterintuitive . . .
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    Re: Considering a move to Las Vegas

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    Say what?! Details please.
    I'm going to have to go exploring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKA View Post
    ...Definitely year round riding, but you can't compare the number of trails we have here to the number of trails in So. Cal. There are way more riding option in So. Cal.
    Say whaaaaaat?
    I highly doubt you have the same number of miles per sq mile as we do, every trail(except bristlecone) in Vegas is pretty much within a 30-45 min drive from anywhere in the valley.
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    OK. Let me re-phrase that. So. Cal has greater overall numbers of trails, but they are really spread out all over a large area and Vegas has FAR less crowded trails as there is way fewer people here compared to SC. All of the Vegas trails are within a short drive, but the numbers don't lie. Just look at the "Trails" list on this website. 203 trails in the LA area alone and 67 trails for the entire state of Nevada listed.

    Don't get me wrong. Our trails here in So. NV are awesome, but there are more options in So. Cal. You may have to drive an hour or two depending on where you live, but then again, I guess if you include a 2 hour drive radius, we could include all of So. Utah trails too. Hmmmm, maybe we are better than SC for trails.
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    If you have to ask on a forum to weight your decision because you are having seconds thoughts between LA & Las Vegas.
    Las Vegas is not for you.
    This is a gambling town so double down put all your chips on red and let it roll.
    I mean after all where else do you hear people telling you I need some money lets go to the casino?
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    What, not everyone wins at gambling!

    Vegas is a good town for concerts; I sure LA is about the same too....
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    Considering a move to Las Vegas

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    What, not everyone wins at gambling!

    Vegas is a good town for concerts; I sure LA is about the same too....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKA View Post
    OK. Let me re-phrase that. So. Cal has greater overall numbers of trails, but they are really spread out all over a large area and Vegas has FAR less crowded trails as there is way fewer people here compared to SC. All of the Vegas trails are within a short drive, but the numbers don't lie. Just look at the "Trails" list on this website. 203 trails in the LA area alone and 67 trails for the entire state of Nevada listed.

    Don't get me wrong. Our trails here in So. NV are awesome, but there are more options in So. Cal. You may have to drive an hour or two depending on where you live, but then again, I guess if you include a 2 hour drive radius, we could include all of So. Utah trails too. Hmmmm, maybe we are better than SC for trails.
    I like it here. I'll stay.
    Thx for the rephrase! yeah if your inc. drive time... don't forget that inc..... coyote springs, kingman, st george, hurricane and you can start to see the big picture... we have EVERY type of riding available to us.
    Curious, what list are you pulling those trail numbers from???
    Sounds awfully short for trails in NV (per state), could be good ammo for snmba to take to their next blm encounter!!! + I'd like to see if its complete for us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaFred View Post
    Thx for the rephrase! yeah if your inc. drive time... don't forget that inc..... coyote springs, kingman, st george, hurricane and you can start to see the big picture... we have EVERY type of riding available to us.
    Curious, what list are you pulling those trail numbers from???
    Sounds awfully short for trails in NV (per state), could be good ammo for snmba to take to their next blm encounter!!! + I'd like to see if its complete for us!

    The trail numbers come from this good ole website right here. Go to the top "Trails" and search Nevada. I'm sure that there are a lot of unofficial trails not listed and even the official list is out of date too.

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    Well, looks like I'm coming out in a couple weeks for an in-person. Can't bring my bike (flying me out) but I might be able to arrange time to ride a rental.

    What kind of bikes do folks ride out there? I currently have a SC BlurLT, and will be upgrading to either a Bronson or Solo . . . depends on where I end up I suppose!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bone Saw View Post
    The trail numbers come from this good ole website right here. Go to the top "Trails" and search Nevada. I'm sure that there are a lot of unofficial trails not listed and even the official list is out of date too.
    That's exactly where I saw them. We do need to update our trail list on this forum, but that's also a great idea to use the list as ammo with the BLM to get us more trails.

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    Considering a move to Las Vegas

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    that's also a great idea to use the list as ammo with the blm to get us more trails.
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    I recommend you stay at the Element hotel, its a great place to stay and right next door to Las Vegas Cyclery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaleon View Post
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    007 do yourself a favor and go ride "The Cowboy Trails" if you get a chance.
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    I recommend you stay at the Element hotel, its a great place to stay and right next door to Las Vegas Cyclery.
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    I'm coming out the week of the 28th and the company is putting me up on the Strip. I won't be able to bike this trip, as all the free time we have will be spent touring with realtors. I may try to check out Las Vegas Cyclery though . . . sounds like their a legit shop.
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    Just moved here for work in January from Utah (talk about a change in cultural diversity). So far, love it! My riding has been primarily Park City, Moab, and SW Utah for the last decade or so...I wasn't sure what to expect out of the trails around LV but have been having a blast on everything here. Bootleg Canyon is of course amazing, and I've been stoked about the Mt. Charleston area...tons of potential up there. We snagged a place in the NW corner of the Vegas valley and thought the housing prices were very reasonable, especially compare to anything in Cali. Have been happy with this location because it's pretty laid back, quiet, and it's close proximity to Charleston.

    Did have 2 kids in tow, so have likely had a different settling in experience than you will...I think this would be a really fun town for a couple moving here without kids...maybe too much fun, I guess that's the catch. Feel free to pm me for more info or to ride sometime.

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    Just got back from the on-site interview and subtle signs suggest that an offer is forthcoming, so this may come to reality.

    Wife and I spent the day with a realtor in the Summerlin area, and we drove around the Green Valley area ourselves. I gotta say, the "master planned" communities are a STARK contrast from anything I've ever seen. We'd be renting first but would ultimately buy something rather quickly.

    What are the communities that we should be looking at? Would be working smack in the center of town near the 15/93 interchange.
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    I say decide where you think you'll be riding more, if it's Bear Best & Blue Diamond then you'll want to be in Summerlin or just south of Summerlin, if it's Bootleg then Green Valley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade-Runner View Post
    I say decide where you think you'll be riding more, if it's Bear Best & Blue Diamond then you'll want to be in Summerlin or just south of Summerlin, if it's Bootleg then Green Valley.
    I haven't got a clue where I'd be riding more, and likely will not have a chance to ride both before a decision has to be made. Looking at some of the trail maps, it seems like there's more trail over in the Summerlin area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I haven't got a clue where I'd be riding more, and likely will not have a chance to ride both before a decision has to be made. Looking at some of the trail maps, it seems like there's more trail over in the Summerlin area.
    You wont regret living on the west side. Summerlin is a great choice for a better selection of different riding types. I live in Mountains Edge in the SW and thats also an excellent choice.
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    So can someone tell me what the GOOD things about living in Vegas are? I have been doing a lot of research online and the things that people say make it sound like it is the worst place in this country to live!

    Is there anything GOOD about living in Sin City?!
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    The riding, the weather, great hiking, Mount Charleston, Great places to eat at any hour of the day....I could go on all day but I have to chase my boys around now.
    "Im just going to explore a little bit..."

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    Good things: the weather- it gets hot, but I still ride year round
    the trails - awesome variety of trails, cottonwood, bears best, bootleg...
    the mountains - 8,000 ft elevation and higher is only 45 minutes away
    the lake - Lake Mead 45 minutes away for skiing, wakeboarding, etc.
    close to So. Cal for quick trips to the beach or a ballgame
    close to So. Utah for more riding options, Zion, etc.

    The bad: Hmmmmm. Can't think of much for me. Yeah, it's not green and pretty, but rain don't mess up my ride much either. Some don't like the gambling atmosphere. I just avoid it.
    It is what you make of it. It's not for everyone, but neither is Hawaii although I like to visit there too. Look for the positive things and you'll find them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKA View Post
    Good things: the weather- it gets hot, but I still ride year round
    the trails - awesome variety of trails, cottonwood, bears best, bootleg...
    the mountains - 8,000 ft elevation and higher is only 45 minutes away
    the lake - Lake Mead 45 minutes away for skiing, wakeboarding, etc.
    close to So. Cal for quick trips to the beach or a ballgame
    close to So. Utah for more riding options, Zion, etc.

    The bad: Hmmmmm. Can't think of much for me. Yeah, it's not green and pretty, but rain don't mess up my ride much either. Some don't like the gambling atmosphere. I just avoid it.
    It is what you make of it. It's not for everyone, but neither is Hawaii although I like to visit there too. Look for the positive things and you'll find them.
    I really appreciate that part. Thanks for that. I think you're right that there are plenty of good things, along with the bad . . . which is true for ANY city. Its all in where you look . . .
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    I hope you get the job, especially if it means more money. You'll like Vegas. I've lived a bunch of places...Europe, southeast US, Northwest US, but mostly southwest US, and Vegas is great. The other places were too all in their own way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKA View Post
    I hope you get the job, especially if it means more money. You'll like Vegas. I've lived a bunch of places...Europe, southeast US, Northwest US, but mostly southwest US, and Vegas is great. The other places were too all in their own way.
    Its substantially more money than I make now . . . I should know more definitively within the next couple weeks, but things are looking very, very promising.

    I'm getting excited . . . I'm not sure my current bike will be well suited for the terrain out there though. I guess I'll just have to get a new one! You know . . . so that I'm safe out there. Wouldn't want to be running inadequate equipment now . . .
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    It's not that your bike would be totally inadequate, it's just that the riding here is so different than So Cal riding that I'm sure it would be cost prohibitive to try to modify your current ride to the So. NV riding conditions. It would be way more cost effective to purchase something that is more suited to NV riding. Just think how much it would cost you in time away from work if you were hurt because of an improper bike set up. Safety first you know.

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    Other than wanting a new bike....why wouldn't your Santa Cruz work???
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaFred View Post
    Other than wanting a new bike....why wouldn't your Santa Cruz work???
    It would work quite well I'm sure actually!

    I really like my Blur . . . its pretty dialed and has all the parts I'd want. The major drawback is weight. The frame alone is almost 7lbs and I don't have a light build by any means. It's a pretty solid build for an aggressive trail bike, but it makes a lot of compromises . . . its not a great AM bike (too steep, flimsy fork) and its not a great XC bike (too slack, too heavy, small wheels). I've made it work here in SoCal because my financial situation dictated 1 bike. Thats likely going to change.

    Based on what I've gathered about LV riding, I'll be looking for a 6" travel, carbon 650b (SC Bronson) as my AM rig and a XC rig . . . maybe a HT, or short-travel XC (SC Tallboy2?) for cruising some of the desert singletrack.
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    Well . . . got the offer today, and its a good one! Looking like I'll be heading out again for a house hunting trip in the next few weeks, at which point I'd likely bring my bike (or at least set up a day to rent/ride). I'll post up when that gets scheduled and hopefully someone will be around to show me some trail. We're focusing our search in the Summerlin area, so I'd be interested to see the westside trails.
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