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    Charleston Trails

    So I was up in Charleston this weekend doing some hiking and I saw a bunch of trails off the side of the road between the houses and the Harris spring road turnoff. They were on north side of the road and seemed to meander around along the ridgeline.

    Anyone know more about these? Looking at google earth I can see one main trail but they all seem to head back into the mountains. Is there a map of the area? Any official name?
    Thanks for the help.
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    Not sure if these trails are in the same area you're asking about, but there's a pretty long thread here that talks about several Mt. Charleston DH trails.

    It has some vids and maps too IIRC.
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    Judging by the map its definately not the shuttle trails that are mentioned in the post above. I can tell by the map, but it looks like it might be the twighlight trails. If so, there are maps people have put online and you should be able to find something. I believe the loop is around 12 miles. Can you describe the parking area?

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    Yup, looks like Twilight...
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    Thanks. Is it a good trail system? Looks a bit limiting. Any maps floating around of the various trails? Haven't been able to find one yet.

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    I would say it's on par with Cottonwood and 100% XC (or at least the parts that I rode were!). Sorry, no map except for the gps tracking I already posted. Twilight didn't seem too difficult to navigate, although I was fortunate enough to ride with a group that already knew their way around...
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    maybe I will venture out later this week and try to navigate twilight
    I assume the elevation is near what we have in Vegas at that point......
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    elevation is similar to the high parts of cottonwood. Trails are XC...this system has alot of potential if work was put in and more trail was cut. Its a ood ride if you want to pedal. The back section is more exciting if you ask me. Definately worth checking out.

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    thanks for the update
    any other pointers from ones who have ridden this trail
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    Great trail and worth the time to ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. D View Post
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    thanks for the update
    any other pointers from ones who have ridden this trail
    When you get to the "bench" stay right,right as you start down. If you cross a wash at 90* STOP....GO BACK. It will just continue and they keep getting bigger & bigger. If you want to explore there is lot's you can do.
    When are you thinking of going? I haven't been out there in a while.

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    Hey Kelly, here ya go:

    Twilight Pt.2 Las Vegas, NV 1-29-12 - YouTube

    Btw, that's Knoob at the front leading the pack around Twilight...!

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    thanks Donny, knoob and Rodney

    knoob I was thinking of camping in the rv up their this weekend
    so any day fri, sat, or sun would work....
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    Thanks. I'm going to have to go up there one of these weekends and check it out. There looks to be a good loop heading north east up the hill and around the back side of it as well. Here's the loop I'm looking at, I'm thinking of running it counter clockwise. Thoughts?
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    I think that is the traditional twightlight loop. I have only done it clockwise, which I think is more common. However, I have heard that some like riding it counter clockwise.

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    Nelsonccc and Mr. D.....I'm heading out to twilight early tomorrow morning. Iplan on being on my bike by 7 at the latest. Let me know if anyone is up for it

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    I'd love to go but........I told my daughter I would be at her softball tourny at 9am.
    Next time.

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    I will be there at 7am!

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    Tin Can Alley on Charleston is terrific!

    I rode up what I call Tin Can Alley (see map pic) today. It was outstanding. The temperature was great. We left the parking area by 7:15 am. Riding through the forest was a great change from our typical desert fare. I can't believe more people don't ride this trail. I'm not talking about 'downhillers', I mean 'all-mountain/cross country folk. The trail in nicely conceived, especially where it separates distinctly from the 'down hill' stuff. I did this trail before, but failed to ride the upper loop you can see on the map. The blue portion on the top is the great stuff in my opinion and the part I missed last time. It's got great flow, shaded by Ponderosa pines, and offers really great trail 'features' and views. I don't think anybody should be intimidated by the perceived climb... as it ebbs and flows enough, so 2,000 feet pass by with hardly a notice. And of course, the ride back down is hardly painful. More riders will make a great trail even better!
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    Glad you had a good ride....that trail system is my favorite in town. I have seen lots of xc and all mountain guys up there as well.....sometimes climbing up and other times riding the trail with a shuttle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcall8 View Post
    Glad you had a good ride....that trail system is my favorite in town. I have seen lots of xc and all mountain guys up there as well.....sometimes climbing up and other times riding the trail with a shuttle.
    I'm pretty certain absolutely no one has ridden the upper portion this season, as we had to remove quite a bit of downed trees and debris. And there was no evidence of any tire tracks. Plus... It was a perfect day to ride and the only riders we passed were a couple downhillers on the way up. I'm gonna do this more often, maybe I'll eat my words later.

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    bluejudad, how far up kyle caynon do you drive to get to the trail?
    Is their a trailhead sign or parking area?

    thanks
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    There is a "Tree" on the right side of the road just before the metro sub station, which is just before the crossover to Lee Canyon.
    It's a small dirt lot. There should be cars there.

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    Friday i decided to drive up to the "mountain".
    I rode bristlecone from the dirtroad and the trip down by the ski lodge was fun.
    Got a crazy thought in my head turned around and rode back
    to the dirtroad boy the climbing was fun.
    Stayed overnight at MCwilliams campground nice mtn air and overslept.

    ON Saturday I found the twilight zone trailhead.

    Made some new friends as they were finishing their ride
    and ran into an old friend, who said why didn't you wait
    until it was a little hotter to ride.

    I enjoyed the twilight trail stoped and took several pics:




    I like this one because as you crest the hill all you could see was juniper trees



    to remind me of my daughter's favorite show


    sweet single track



    amazing cactus growth


    found the "bench"


    my tripod stand for the previous pic


    the end of a good ride
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    @blujudad

    It's been awhile since i've done any riding in that area. When you leave from the TREE, is it fairly easy to follow your given route? Any pointers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by knoob View Post
    There is a "Tree" on the right side of the road just before the metro sub station, which is just before the crossover to Lee Canyon.
    It's a small dirt lot. There should be cars there.

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    Knoob is accurate. I know it sounds weird to look for the "tree".... it's actually two trees and they are the only ones in that area and really stick out. There are no signs, but, when you see the trees there is a dirt path off to the right that opens up to a dirt parking area. If I recall, from the lot you have to ride down a dirt road briefly and then up to the trail. It should be easy to find. The trail is very easy to navigate until about the 3 or 4 mile mark. The "downhill" crowd has there own 'paths' that frankly don't have the same appeal. They tend to be gravely, eroded, straighter and without the same charm. The key is to stay on the cross country trail which, when there is a 'fork' is on the right. Notice on my map the dark blue section. You can see it has many zigs and turns as opposed to the more redish line to the left. That was the way I went the first time and it is predominantly used by the downhillers. So from the 3 mile mark to the 4 mile mark you have to be careful to stay on the cross country trail. Then, after the 4 mile mark and approaching the road you can see how we veered to the right dramatically to start that loop you see. That is a very underused part of the trail and it is awesome. That area admittedly gets tricky to navigate, again, because it appears to be underutilized... and its a shame. I'm gonna ask my friend to weigh in on specifics on that area. He was my "tour guide", if you will.

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    Couple of things to note for the Middle Kyle Trails / Tin Can Alley.
    The actual road to the Trail Head / Tree... is Forrest Service Road # is 530A. However, the sign may be knocked down.
    From the tree, take the road "down: across the dry creek bed and up the other side.
    At this point the road "T's"
    Take the LEFT road and the single track is ~15 yards on your right.
    Follow the single track from there to the top.
    I hope this helps.

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    One last thing; if you drive past the NDOT garage / parking area or the Police Station, you have past the Trail Head.

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    Today, I went to Mt. Charleston for my first time. ****in' AWESOME is all I can say!!! I'll try to post some videos as soon as I can... BIG PROPS to Dub_Niner and Hk_Wrex for showing me the way..!

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    I'll be the first to admit I'm not much of a DH'er and I didn't break any land speed records, but damn is Mt. Charleston FUN!!!!

    Mountain Biking - Mt. Charleston 6/03/12 - YouTube

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    nice!

    cool video,great soundtrack!
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    Quote Originally Posted by E ! View Post
    cool video,great soundtrack!
    Thanks, E! But, I have to give credit where credit is due. I hijacked the track from here:



    ⬆⬆⬆Now that's an AWESOME video!!!

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    FYI - If anyone is interested I will be heading up the mountain tomorrow to do some trail maintenance. I plan on being at the Robber's Roost parking lot around 1:30.

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    Love the Twilight Trails.

    You in Oklahoma City? If yes, come ride with us.

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