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    Cool-blue Rhythm Warning, Sarcasm Ahead.

    Lets see. It has a DW rear end.
    It has monocoque frame elements. (They call it hydroformed)
    It has a very familiar upper shock mount.

    But... It says Chumba...





    I love how one of the people called Chumba on their claims that the FSR suspension, was the greatest one ever created, then switches to DW.
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    That's not a DW licensed bike. Companies that use(d) the DW design are Pivot, Ibis, Turner, Independent Fabrication, and Iron Horse (now long and gone).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddraewwg
    That's not a DW licensed bike. Companies that use(d) the DW design are Pivot, Ibis, Turner, Independent Fabrication, and Iron Horse (now long and gone).
    Someone in the Chumba forum says it's a DW rear and no one has denied it.
    And, that's besides the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericmopar
    Someone in the Chumba forum says it's a DW rear and no one has denied it.
    And, that's besides the point.
    So DW hasn't said, "No, it's not" so therefore it must be? Um. Ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddraewwg
    So DW hasn't said, "No, it's not" so therefore it must be? Um. Ok.
    Their own factory reps don't seem to have denied it.
    And, again, that is besides the point.
    They like so many other manufacturers, are saying their current suspension design (then Horst Link) was top notch, then a few months later, they change it to something else.
    And actually, the Horst Link is one of the better designs.
    That's why it's been around for so long, like a good single pivot.


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    It was somewhere in the Chumba forum that I saw the DW claim, although not from a factory rep.
    The upper shock mount, looks a lot like a 03 - 06 San Andreas'.
    I've been harped on by local dealers, about my MC products having "outdated" monocoque parts, and yet that's all hydro-formed parts are, which are common on many bikes. They hydro-form with hydraulic pressure, instead of traditional stamps and dies. It still results in a monocoque (single skin) shaped structure.
    I've also heard crap from the KHS booths about MC and yet they still make single pivots.
    They also make bikes in which the pivot points don't line up too well, causing premature wear on bearings. I know this from working on a rental fleet of KHS bikes. LOL.
    I also came from four bar, including Horst Links and don't see any reason to go back.
    I'm just sick of hearing BS about MC, especially from the local Specialized dealer.
    Especially when they use things, that were innovated for MTB use by MC in the first place.
    Like: Monocoque parts, Disc brakes (pro stop), inverted forks (suspenders) long before anyone else even thought to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericmopar
    Lets see. It has a DW rear end.
    It has monocoque frame elements. (They call it hydroformed)

    Well, that TT is hydroformed. Monocoque would yield a weld line on the top and bottom of the tube and even if it was a smooth weld, it prolly would be noticeable. Considering the size of the tube, it would not be worth the while to mono form it and it looks like a number of tubes I have seen available from suppliers. The DT may or may not be hydroformed.
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    OK... I was pissy when I wrote that.

    Turnabout's fair play. Where is a pic of the new carbon wonder G.. ?
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