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    San Andreas 3.0? in SolidWorks

    Someone on a Dutch forum spended some time in SolidWorks on a rainy day.
    I find them very nice, so would like to post them here also. He made the swingarm as being Ti.



    And in carbon look
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    This is what the new bikes should have been. Now this is a Mountain Cycle design. How I wish these were made!

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    If MC makes a comeback, they should hire this guy as their head designer. This looks WAY more interesting and innovative than anything that has come out of MC in years.

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    OMG, that's what I'm talking' about!! That is pure MC. Can you please provide us with a link to that forum?
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    Dirty Pages :: Bekijk onderwerp - Mountain Cycle Virtual

    Here is the link to the topic, but remember, it's a dutch forum, so language is 99% dutch.
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    Other than the swing arm design (and thats just my personal aesthetic preference), I don't mind that frame mock up.

    I can't post any pics, although I have seen the 3D design, but this was posted on another forum in australia.

    The thread was about my new bike, and someone posted a DNA to show the difference between the two. (link for anyone that wants it Mountaincycle San Andreas 2.0).

    the DNA still looks the goods. Interestingly enough, in the aftermath of MC collapsing, I have teamed up with some of the guys involved in the design process of the MC bikes and we are working on a new monocoque design to be made in the antipodes!
    Given the people involved I know some of you probably won't be interested, but I think you would be surprised at whats in the pipeline.

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    ^ I agree, I would make it out of Al and give it some shape to match the front.
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    Although manufacturing that front section would be difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cHoc Nr1 View Post
    Dirty Pages :: Bekijk onderwerp - Mountain Cycle Virtual

    Here is the link to the topic, but remember, it's a dutch forum, so language is 99% dutch.
    Is there anything there that is worth the time for you to translate for us? I tried a free online translator, but it doesn't seem to work very good. Is this guy designing stuff for the new MC owners? Could you give us a summery of what has been said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    Is there anything there that is worth the time for you to translate for us? I tried a free online translator, but it doesn't seem to work very good. Is this guy designing stuff for the new MC owners? Could you give us a summery of what has been said?
    No, he's not designing for the new MC owners, he just made this out of fun. He likes to design stuff out of the blue, and as jou can see from the 2 black and white pictures that he has been "goofing" around with this frame for some time.
    And 2 points that are interesting to place here also, he knows that the hole in the frame behind the headtube is not structuarally safe, and also the swingarm has to be alterd to be structurally safe for use. And it's actually more a DH frame then a AM/Enduro frame.
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    Hi mates,

    I thought I'd post a small comment, since I think I can consider this to also be a little bit 'my' topic..
    It is very nice to hear so many cool reactions to my design.

    It all started with an old shiver SC I sketched some time ago, and I simply added components until I had a bike.
    I've been working on the frame for a few evenings, and I can say it should be fully functional (used existing bearings, dimensions, wall thicknesses and even worked out a correct shock ratio (comes close to a lapierre pendbox).
    It's got about 200mm travel front an rear, so it would rather be a new shockwave. Front triangle can pretty realistically be made out of aluminium plates (kinda like what intense does) with CNC'd welded details (or carbon fibre, for the trendy guys).
    In my opinion, the front end should be more than strong enough - even with that hole in there - but it would take some testing to completely convince even me. As for the rear 'triangle', I wanted it to be a low swingarm, which I reinforced ancillotti-style on the left side. On the right side, this was not possible because the swingarm would slap the chain whilst moving up. I considered modelling an 'upper banana' part on the right side, above the chain, but then decided I liked it this way, so left it like this. Although I'm not saying it'll never be added..
    Chain, calipers, pedals and some more stuff will be added on the next rainy day.

    Anyway, you want more details, I can post them.. You got more questions, feel free to ask them.
    And euhm.. I'm very sorry, but the MC badge is only temporarily.. Put it on there for now because it felt like one.. edit: and because the brand could use it
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    ^ Right on! Thanks, keep posting. Robert Reisinger really likes it. Check it out here. You'll have to ask to join, but I will join you right away.

    http://www.facebook.com/groups/ClubMountainCycle/
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    btw, geometry = mondraker summum M

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    Hey Peter,
    Could you do a rendering of that same frame, in polished aluminum with 140mm of travel front and rear, using a Cane Creek DB air shock, RS Revelation forks and Spinergy Enduro wheels with red spokes, using your components in red??? That would be really cool!
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    erhm.. That's like modelling a new bike. Maybe when this one is finished

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    Quote Originally Posted by hubertje View Post
    erhm.. That's like modelling a new bike. Maybe when this one is finished
    Ok, when your done with this one, pretty please? lol
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    ^ That is sweet! Needs your red post though.
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    Yeah, that should be a worthy successor of the San Andreas.

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    See Mountain CYcle? THATS how its done.

    His design is fluid, modern and functional, all while retaining the roots of what Mountain Cycle is. Its exciting, and the kind of product somebody would want to buy. In other words, he wins.

    The new San An meantime, isn't even worth the discounted change it goes for on eBay.
    Stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropmachine.com View Post
    See Mountain CYcle? THATS how its done.

    His design is fluid, modern and functional, all while retaining the roots of what Mountain Cycle is. Its exciting, and the kind of product somebody would want to buy. In other words, he wins.

    The new San An meantime, isn't even worth the discounted change it goes for on eBay.
    Maybe we'll see something like this come to the market. Although, I doubt it will ever have the Mountain Cycle name, that's a shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    Although manufacturing that front section would be difficult.
    I could see that front triangle made in carbon fairly simply. Take away the cut out behind the head tube and the entire front box section would be fairly easy (but not cheap) to make a mould for, the bearing seats/shock mount being cut after layup. Then the seat mast would be made as a separate piece and bonded or bolted into place at the end.

    Then the swing arm in carbon again, that ti design is proper gorgeous, but I don't know enough about ti, a look not far off that could be made in carbon, complete with a single arm on both sides for the proper trick look.

    I'm off to write this down.

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    I doubt it. Mountain Cycle doesn't seem to have the slightest clue what the market wants, or anything about sensible bike design. I can't see them being smart enough to bring something this well thought out to the market.
    Stuff.

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    There is no Mountain Cycle.
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