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    Mountain Cycle is not in any 09 buyer's guides.

    So far, I haven't seen MC mentioned in a single 09 buyers guide.
    What gives?

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    The closest thing I have seen is photo of Jim D. on a Rumble taking part in a race @ Ray's. I believe it was in the last issue of MBA.
    It sucks there has been no love for MC lately in the mags....

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    Trad mags work on a 'love for money' system folks. No advertise, no love. Sad but true and it's only the enlightened mags that don't work that way...
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    Why?
    Because they don't have 20 neet looking bearings - Pivots to wear out in 6 months!!! "DUH"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrumble69
    Why?
    Because they don't have 20 neet looking bearings - Pivots to wear out in 6 months!!! "DUH"
    Yeah, that's why Commencal and Cannondale both came out with single pivot bikes with bell cranks. The Moto and Metas look more impressive with those bell cranks and links.
    I bought a 09 buyer's guide that is put out by Decline magazine, and I can't believe the over complicated crap that they are starting to come out with.
    The new thing seems to be, links connecting links.
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    Eric can you explain "bell cranks" fro me - not heard that terminology before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekiltedskier
    Eric can you explain "bell cranks" fro me - not heard that terminology before.

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    Some of the Commencal bikes use a single pivot design, but they use a connecting link to a bell crank, which allows the shock to be mounted vertically against the seat tube.
    A bell crank is a triangle shaped way of transferring the direction of force.
    Instead of two bearings they must have at least 8, based on the number of pivot points I can see.

    http://www.flying-pig.co.uk/mechanis...bellcrank.html


    http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Commencal-Me...-MTB_19802.htm

    This is Cannondale's take on it.
    http://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/ima...20moto%202.jpg
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    Thanks Eric, that's kind of what I thought ie a type of single pivot with linkage driven shock.

    I still love the original San Andreas construction with the swingarm pivot being a Delrin sleeve through the main frame with a grease injection port. Much better than sealed bearings! I wonder if someone else used that system and a marketing department got behind it if it would become the "Next Big Thing"?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thekiltedskier
    Thanks Eric, that's kind of what I thought ie a type of single pivot with linkage driven shock.

    I still love the original San Andreas construction with the swingarm pivot being a Delrin sleeve through the main frame with a grease injection port. Much better than sealed bearings! I wonder if someone else used that system and a marketing department got behind it if it would become the "Next Big Thing"?!
    Marketing hype has most persons convinced that bearings are better.
    I used to own a 2000 Stumpjumper FSR XC that had bushings with a kind of fibrous crush washer that kept out the dirt. I took it apart twice a year and greased them. It only had cartridge bearings on the main pivot. I liked that system.
    My 03 Stumpjumper FSR XC had full ball bearings, and needed periodic tightening of the cartridge bearings, but never broke.
    My 04 Jamis Dakar was a total POS that broke the bearings every two to three months. (also broke two swingarms).
    My 06 San An has been fine for 3 years of desert riding. No bearings replaced or even needing an adjustment. I just clean around them once in awhile.
    Turner uses greaseable bushings.
    I like both systems, when properly executed.
    "I thought of that while riding my bike."
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    Perhaps the magazines emailed them, and they didn't respond. God knows, I can't get them to respond to any emails that I've sent so far.
    Stuff.

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    I didn't get any e-mails... Maybe nobody likes me
    What did you need Dropmachine ?

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