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    26 and 6 Spy Shot.

    This is the first full shot of the rigid "urban" version of the 26 and 6.
    It will be available as a hardtail, with a Zoke Corsa and Kenda Knobs.
    There is lots of carbon there... (Homer Simpson Drool Sounds)



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    Is that suitable for XC riding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn
    Is that suitable for XC riding?
    Yes, it's going to be available as a XC hardtail with Kenda Small Block 8s and a Marzocchi Corsa Fork.
    The rigid version is aimed more at urban riding I think, although you could do XC on smoother trails, with the right tires.
    It's not a trail or all mountain bike. It's definitely a lightweight hot rod.
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    It's wicked fast and defiantly an XC pro bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRA009
    It's wicked fast and defiantly an XC pro bike.
    That would be, "a" instead of "an". Dang, I just bought a new carbon xc frame. Any idea on price?
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    Does that thing have replaceable dropouts?
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    It looks like some of those Asian carbon HT frames you can buy on E-bay, but with Al dropouts.
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    I'm not sure, but those dropouts look removable.
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    not removable

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    Pricing?
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    Shawn, pricing is online as of today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn
    It looks like some of those Asian carbon HT frames you can buy on E-bay, but with Al dropouts.
    Mmmmm. And I'd:

    1: Naturally fully agree to put one of those into production.

    2: Offer a full 2 year warranty on it.

    I also love the mention of 'Asian' and cheap, as if only rubbish comes out of Asia rather than 95% of ALL bike stuff.

    I'll file this under "the **** I read on the internet..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by G..
    Mmmmm. And I'd:

    1: Naturally fully agree to put one of those into production.

    2: Offer a full 2 year warranty on it.

    I also love the mention of 'Asian' and cheap, as if only rubbish comes out of Asia rather than 95% of ALL bike stuff.

    I'll file this under "the **** I read on the internet..."
    I didn't say, "cheap". In fact I have one and love it. I would have considered buying the 26 had a known a month in advance that it was coming out. Oh, and if it was a frame only.
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    Sorry, my mistake (insert something about what people usually say in the internet becoming like 'autofill').

    Aye, we are not doing frame only any more as an option as it, understandably, puts off too many people. We are going to offer 'Race Chassis' but that's the closest we'll get. As for why we didn't do an RC on this bike, we only brought a very small amount (I mean very small), so decided to go the complete route.
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    I hope you eventually offer the frame only option on all your models. I think most of us, who spend that much on a bike, want to pick our own parts. One mistake MC made a long time ago was offering frames with cheap (in this case) Asian shocks. I paid a premium, at the time, for a San Andreas frame, only to have to shell out another $400 for a good shock. America is all about choices. The more choices and options you can offer, the more you'll sell.
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    It's a tough deal to beat really. I've seen carbon frames go for the same price with no components at all.
    Also; most frames, high end or not, are made in Asia, including the boutique brands.
    I found it odd, that a friend of mine had made a comment about the 26 and 6 to that effect, in a negative connotation, and yet his Specialized bikes are all made overseas.
    There are a lot of bikes with lesser components showing up in the market, within the same price point.
    Things like crappy X Fusion Shocks, and mechanical discs, on bikes that are $2500 and up.
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    Well, that was the mistake MC made... cheap.

    I don't do cheap. Ever. I'll rationalise some parts, eg. SLX cluster and chain because the diff between XT and SLX on these parts is not enough to warrant the price difference, but I am making sure MC specs only 'best in class', hence why we have a single build option on all our bikes, as you'll soon see. Simply put, I don't 'do' price points on a single platform, I don't see the point as what you put on a frame reflects on the whole bike, hence the brand - crap parts are seen to make a crap bike and we are in the biz of bikes.

    In regards to frame only's, maybe one day but not for the next few seasons at least. Frame only's are just not viable when you are working with dealers etc.
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    Eric and all... if you have not, read this
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    Quote Originally Posted by G..
    Eric and all... if you have not, read this
    I don't envy anyone who has to work with suppliers outside the US. It seems Like it would be so easy to get effed, with no recourse.
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    Actually, if you're on the game and your suppliers are good and in TW, it's not that bad. Not easy but not bad. Dealing with manufacturers anywhere (except Germany maybe) is a PIA as par of the course.

    I would NEVER, EVER, EVER, deal with any company in China. In general, you will be bent over a barrel if you look the other way for just one second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G..
    I would NEVER, EVER, EVER, deal with any company in China. In general, you will be bent over a barrel if you look the other way for just one second.
    Thanks, That's a good piece of info to know.
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    Here's a question.
    Is that crank outside bearing, or ISIS?
    The reason I ask, is because the specs say ISIS, but in one of the photos, it looks like it might be an outside bearing system.


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    Tell John I told him to give you a free sticker!

    It seems for some odd reason I had a total retro brain melt down. Yes, they are outboard bearings. ISIS! Sheesh.... I must have regressed to the bad old days!
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    Quote Originally Posted by G..
    Tell John I told him to give you a free sticker!

    It seems for some odd reason I had a total retro brain melt down. Yes, they are outboard bearings. ISIS! Sheesh.... I must have regressed to the bad old days!
    I'm glad to hear that. I really don't like ISIS at all, and neither do a lot of others!
    You must have thought my PM was strange, until I explained myself!

    Later, Eric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericmopar
    I'm glad to hear that. I really don't like ISIS at all, and neither do a lot of others!
    You must have thought my PM was strange, until I explained myself!

    Later, Eric.
    I keep hearing how bad ISIS is. Iv'e used them since they came out with no problems. I do live in a dry climate though and my bikes never get wet. Maybe that's why.
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