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    Cool-blue Rhythm My Motobecane Fantom 29 PRO - Getting Back Into It All

    Hello folks. This is my first post and I hope one of many here at MTBR.

    I found that I needed to get back into some of my old passions in life and one of them was mountain biking. Ever since I was a wee calf I loved to ride bikes. As the years progressed I have gone through many a style of bike (girl's cruiser, BMX, 10 Speed, Mountain, hybrid, etc..). After riding many a bike over many a terrain I found that nothing beat having the ability to just go anywhere like that of a mountain bike.

    There seems to be few years in my life where I haven't been on a bike until recently, where life has been a large transition. When moving from my home town of Lawrence, Kansas, to the Durango area of Colorado, I found much more outdoor activities at my disposal. There are so many choices that you just have to postpone or give up even getting into an activity here. But decidedly this was the year to get back into Mountain Biking and in a big way, with my first 29er tearing through the terrain of the Southwest over the course of this Spring through Fall of 2008.

    So, what did I get? Well, a Motobecane of course. I bought a Motobecane Fantom 29 PRO in Matte Slate. I am so very eager for it to get here, which judging by the UPS tracker, should be no later than this Friday! Check back for picture, condition, and impressions on the bike.

    I want to thank everyone in advance whom welcome me. I appreciate being a part of this forum among you fine folks.

    Mooooooooo!
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    Welcome back to biking and congratuatlions on your Moto. There have been some times in my life where I haven't had time to bike. I would start to forget how much I loved it, and what a great part of life biking is. When I would get back into it I would feel like kicking myself when I rememebered how much I love it. Its not just physical exercise for me, but it definitely is mental health exercise, I feel so much better all around when I am biking.

    I also love that feeling of anticipation of waiting for a new bike, you just can't wait for it to come!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ljsmith
    Welcome back to biking and congratuatlions on your Moto. There have been some times in my life where I haven't had time to bike. I would start to forget how much I loved it, and what a great part of life biking is. When I would get back into it I would feel like kicking myself when I rememebered how much I love it. Its not just physical exercise for me, but it definitely is mental health exercise, I feel so much better all around when I am biking.

    I also love that feeling of anticipation of waiting for a new bike, you just can't wait for it to come!
    I think you put my sub-context into words precisely.

    I agree. The exhilaration that is associated with biking is not like others. I ski, snowboard, hike, archery, mountainclimb, jeep, pop the occasional brewsky and tube down the rivers, but biking has a high that is all its own. Interestingly enough, I bet I will feel as if I am extending my ski season and vice versa when downhilling or traversing some of the ski hills around here.

    Thanks for the insight and welcome. Congrats on your '08 Moto, as well.
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    My Fantom 29 PRO just came in! UPS delivered it in one piece (thank you). The packaging was adequate, but I could see how UPS could mangle it in some cases.

    The bike is in grade A condition out of the box, but I have yet to put it all together and ride it. Components seem pretty quality, however I will upgrade some stuff in time. I must say that at first glance, it is a very very tight bike. The Tora shock seems to have 80mm travel set up, but I will read the info and see if it is adjustable...

    I am 5' 9.5" (I'm shrinking), 180lbs approx, and with shoes my inseam is about 30.5. The bike size I bought was 15" and I normally ride an 18" when I ride my 26er. Straddling the bike I can see that this will be a very workable size for me. I hope this info helps anyone wanting to know for reference for themselves.

    I will keep you all posted as I get it put together and play with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth Cow
    My Fantom 29 PRO just came in!
    I will keep you all posted as I get it put together and play with it.
    I put on the handlebars, shifters and brakes. I did not put on the remote lockout, yet.

    After airing up the tires I pushed it outside and started to tear up my back yard. I have about 2 acres out back, climbing up a mountain. I selected a gear and tore up that slope. There is so much torque on this puppy it's mad! The stock tires are a bit lacking for this South Western soil. I will have to upgrade soon.

    But man, is this a tight bike. I will get a pro to set it the rest of the way up, but for now I can climb my yard and that's a killer workout.

    Sweet.
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    Bought some upgrades online last night. I look forward to adding them to the bike later this week.

    Sette Ryde ST-850 Suspension Dropper Seatpost $34.98
    Sette Quick Release Rear Fender $12.98
    Sette Quick Release Front Fender $12.98
    Sette Kevlar / Neoprene Chainstay Protector $6.98

    Monday a 661 Pro Bravo Carbon Helmet will get here, along with some stubby bar ends and a suspension air pump.Getting it all in line for many a journey to moab and just the surrounding SW Colorado terrain. Going to XC and Downhill until it's time to ski again next year...

    ...anyone know of some good 29er tires I should look into? I want to generate a quiver over this year for various conditions: sand/loose soil, snow/ice, and perhaps some slicks. Any other suggestions for upgrades or tweaks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth Cow
    The Tora shock seems to have 80mm travel set up, but I will read the info and see if it is adjustable...
    Hmm. that is exactly the question I had after looking at pictures. I even started a thread last week with that question and never got a response. I still like what I hear about the bike, and it is a darn good deal. But when they listed it as a 100mm I thought maybe the bike was actually designed around a 100mm fork, which excited me even more. I am disappointed to find out the opposite. Was it a typo, or just purposely misleading marketing BS?

    The fork is convertible from 80mm to 100mm and vice-versa. You can take it to a shop, but the instructions seem easy and many people have successfully done it at home. Check out the 29er board. Same instructions as the Reba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    Hmm. that is exactly the question I had after looking at pictures. I even started a thread last week with that question and never got a response. I still like what I hear about the bike, and it is a darn good deal. But when they listed it as a 100mm I thought maybe the bike was actually designed around a 100mm fork, which excited me even more. I am disappointed to find out the opposite. Was it a typo, or just purposely misleading marketing BS?

    The fork is convertible from 80mm to 100mm and vice-versa. You can take it to a shop, but the instructions seem easy and many people have successfully done it at home. Check out the 29er board. Same instructions as the Reba.
    Yeah, I can understand your disappointment, however the shock is still quite proper. I guess as far as the webpage being misleading to the public, perhaps... we the people just have to be that more savvy when we read the specs on a component, do a little research and not take it at face value. Oh how the industry keeps us on our toes...

    I hear you on the convertability, I had read a little on it, but forgot to post it here. I have the manual right here and may mess around with the travel this weekend. For now I am ok with 80mm setting. It feels comfortable for me at this level of my ability/practice. If my skills levels increase before my fork wears out, I may max it out.

    I am very happy with this bike. Give me a year and I will be a total component snob, I just haven't reached that level of knowledge, yet.
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    Any pics yet Azimuth?

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    Yeah, show us your proud new steed!

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    I am very interested in pics as well. I will be ordering a motobecane fantom 29 matte black very soon and will be adding fenders as it will be my daily transportion.

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    WOW! I didn't realize I got all these responses...

    My wife has had the camera while away in Colorado Springs for the past weekend. SHe just told me she will clear the camera for me tonight, so I can take pics tomorrow after work and post them.

    Next post should have pics.
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    Any update on the pics? You're killing me here

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    Any update on the pics? You're killing me here
    HAHAHA! Yeah, my wife is uploading her pics in one sec after I post this. Then I will take pics and post them. I should have some up tonight. Give me a couple hours.
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    Cool-blue Rhythm Some Pictures of Geb the Earth God

    Here is my Fantom 29 "Geb".

    The color is called Matte Slate on the Bikesdirect website, but the box says Matte Grey. So, if you see the frame for sale and the color says Matte Grey, it's the same color as this bike.

    The only upgrades I have on the bike at this time are the Sette quick release fenders (awesome) and a kevlar and neoprene chaingaurd. The Sette quickdrop seatpost came in damaged, so I am awaiting a replacement. I haven't got the grips, brakes, fork lockout, and shifters finally set for I wanted to shop around for some grips this weekend in Durango.

    I definately need to get the bike in for a proper setup since I am very new to bike mechanics.

    So there is the beast. It rides well. It is a little heavy, low 30's I believe, and I would love to get it sub 30.

    Thanks for looking!
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    looks great! I like the fenders. I am currently trying to decide between the red fantom 29 or the slate fantom pro 29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cronic
    looks great! I like the fenders. I am currently trying to decide between the red fantom 29 or the slate fantom pro 29.
    If you don't mind the stock components on the red bike, or don't mind paying for upgrades, the red bike looks tight. I really like that color, too. I want to do a build this year and I asked Bike Island if they had the Fantom 29 frame in red (since they have the black and grey frame there), but alas they don't. However they are getting new frames (colors) in a couple of months.

    I decided to get the Pro model because I would have hydrolic brakes and the remote lockout on the fork.
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    Thanks for the pics! Looks good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth Cow
    If you don't mind the stock components on the red bike, or don't mind paying for upgrades, the red bike looks tight. I really like that color, too. I want to do a build this year and I asked Bike Island if they had the Fantom 29 frame in red (since they have the black and grey frame there), but alas they don't. However they are getting new frames (colors) in a couple of months.

    I decided to get the Pro model because I would have hydrolic brakes and the remote lockout on the fork.

    Well since they sold out of the 19" fantom in both red and black, I had to order the fantom 29pro. Hopefully it will be here soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cronic
    Well since they sold out of the 19" fantom in both red and black, I had to order the fantom 29pro. Hopefully it will be here soon.
    Sweetness! Congrats! What color: Matte Brey or Silver?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth Cow
    Sweetness! Congrats! What color: Matte Brey or Silver?

    The matte grey or slate. I really like the dark matte finish.

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    Bike looks good, them fenders are nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth Cow
    My Fantom 29 PRO just came in! UPS delivered it in one piece (thank you). The packaging was adequate, but I could see how UPS could mangle it in some cases.

    The bike is in grade A condition out of the box, but I have yet to put it all together and ride it. Components seem pretty quality, however I will upgrade some stuff in time. I must say that at first glance, it is a very very tight bike. The Tora shock seems to have 80mm travel set up, but I will read the info and see if it is adjustable...

    I am 5' 9.5" (I'm shrinking), 180lbs approx, and with shoes my inseam is about 30.5. The bike size I bought was 15" and I normally ride an 18" when I ride my 26er. Straddling the bike I can see that this will be a very workable size for me. I hope this info helps anyone wanting to know for reference for themselves.

    I will keep you all posted as I get it put together and play with it.

    Peace and Noise!
    Another person who pretends to be all American. But yet you buy everything from overseas. The only American company you delt with in this transaction is UPS. And yet you seem to want to throw in a knock about them. I thought the eyes on that thar cow looked sort of slanted , comrade

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    Quote Originally Posted by tydydownthehighway
    Another person who pretends to be all American. But yet you buy everything from overseas. The only American company you delt with in this transaction is UPS. And yet you seem to want to throw in a knock about them. I thought the eyes on that thar cow looked sort of slanted , comrade
    ???

    WTF mate?

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    ???

    WTF mate?

    Don't feed the trolls.





    Grats on the new ride Azimuth.

    Been thinking about getting a set of those fenders myself.

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    My first post here. I just had to see the pics on this thread as I was thinking/dreaming of a Fantom 29pro. So I registered, looked at the pics and ordered a 29pro from bikesdirect tonight. Sweet bike Azimuth Cow, obviously you sold me. Now I have to wait for it to get here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanlaw0
    My first post here. I just had to see the pics on this thread as I was thinking/dreaming of a Fantom 29pro. So I registered, looked at the pics and ordered a 29pro from bikesdirect tonight. Sweet bike Azimuth Cow, obviously you sold me. Now I have to wait for it to get here.
    You hear that Bike's Direct? I SOLD the bike. Where's the comission?

    It's a really cool ride, ryan. It is definately a different ride for me for I find I can have my back tire spin out a bit when I am standing and pedaling. When I sit back and pedal, no problems.

    This will not be my last bike by far, so I think I will build a Ti Fly for next season. Oh yeah, I read around here that the Ti 29ers are coming out in November. The weight difference could make for an even better ride, right?

    Congrats ryan!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT_DICE
    Bike looks good, them fenders are nice.
    And the fenders are darn easy to take off when not needed, too. Thanks for the compliment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tydydownthehighway
    Another person who pretends to be all American. But yet you buy everything from overseas. The only American company you delt with in this transaction is UPS. And yet you seem to want to throw in a knock about them. I thought the eyes on that thar cow looked sort of slanted , comrade
    He He He! Now that's funny stuff. You cannot even begin to legitimize that broad of a statement about me. Nice kneejerk reaction. If I'm squinting it's because the sun is so intense at 8000 ft elevation on a clear day.

    UPS is great and delivered the package fast and all friendly. My knock was about the packaging, not UPS. The packaging was adequate, but I could see how UPS could... blah blah. I cannot help if you misread things.

    I also delt with Bike's Direct, which is in Tejas. Is that not American enough for your liking? He He!

    If you could give me the number to your dealer I would love to get my hands on some of what you're smoking. how left field can ya be, mate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by portage29er

    Don't feed the trolls.





    Grats on the new ride Azimuth.

    Been thinking about getting a set of those fenders myself.
    Ahh too late! I fed the Troll. But really, how rediculous can someone be? Obviously pretty rediculous. He created a nice little piece of fiction there.

    Anyways, the fenders are pretty cool. They are simple and effective and hand carved by the very Gods of cycling themselves (have to make them legit, ya know).
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    Took mine out for my second decent trail ride yesterday. I'm still amazed how it rolls over everything and climbs like a goat compared to my 26er

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaBass_
    Took mine out for my second decent trail ride yesterday. I'm still amazed how it rolls over everything and climbs like a goat compared to my 26er
    Kick ass! I have yet to do it a serious XC on it. I should have brought it out to the 10k my wife ran today, but i hard falsely heard bikes weren't allowed on the trail at this time. DOH!

    Great report!
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    It's one of my favorite bikes. I got the black frame from bikeisland. Plan on getting another.(1 hardtail, 1 rigid. Much success to you.

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    Loving the fenders. I'll have to get some as I use mine for commuting too, and it will be nice for those damp spring mornings. Great bike. I'll graduate to one eventually.

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    Hi guys, this is my first post here. I have been looking at Fantom PRO for months now and doing a lot of reading.... After visiting some local shops and thanks to this forum I'll be ordering PRO this thursday. I think I'll go with silver...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robson13
    Hi guys, this is my first post here. I have been looking at Fantom PRO for months now and doing a lot of reading.... After visiting some local shops and thanks to this forum I'll be ordering PRO this thursday. I think I'll go with silver...

    Sweetness! Have fun with your new bike. Tell us how you like it when you get it.
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    I just joined the forums because of you!

    I am looking at the Fantom 29 (not pro) and am not sure what size to get. I'm worried the 15" might even be too big for me.

    You are almost the identical height and inseam as me. I am 5' 9.5" and have an inseam of 30.5". But, I am a bit heavier.

    Anyway, is the 15" a great fit for you? Do you feel the 29er is a good bike for your size? Does it seem to big? I have an aging GIANT IGUANA 26er that I am about to replace and was wondering if you'd recommend the 15" 29er to similarly sized guy.

    Also, how is the bike on the pavement? Is it comfortable?

    Thanks!!!

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    Try to Email bikesdirect.com about your sizing.I ordered a 19" Fantom29 frame from bikeisland.com & I have a 32" inseam.The frame is a little too tall depending on the tire I use ( mostty WTB exi wolfs), but it's OK. A 17" would have been more relaxed.I'm going to order a 17" and use it off road and use the 19" as a street rig with some 700c x 45mm tires (lower tire height).Clik on the "sizing tips" info and the "geometry specs" info @ bikes direct.They say to use a size lower than your usual 26" size for a 29er.I believe that to be true.( I take a 19" or 18" 26er) A 17" would give me the correct standover height.The top tube is a little shorter though.A 15" may work well for you.The Fantom29 is a great deal.Just make sure the box is factory sealed before you accept it.(As with any other piece of equipment).Good luck! ---zarr (re:blkdog7)

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    Hey there blkdog7. Thanks for joining. Here is my opinion about the bike geometry and sizing for a 30" inseam:

    I you are used to an 18" approx frame size in a regular mtb, then a 15" is a doable and comfortable transition within the 29er world. It is a different ride and on some loose surfaces I have found I need to sit back on the seat to get significant traction. I think it kinda looks and rides like an oversized bmx (which I rather find cool).

    WIth the stock tires it is fine on pavement. It isn't like riding slicks, but it isn't riding an overly knobby tire, a good in between. I ride it on asphalt, but mainly packed earth roads, and then your various trails. I am taking the bikle to Moab next week for an extended trip and will have a better take on how it fares in that terrain.

    Honestly, I personally think you cannot do wrong with going with a 15" frame. And I personally do not recommend trying to contact Bike's Direct about sizing. I did twice and got a half formulated, cut and paste message that meant nothing relevant to my specific questions and some BS from an anonymous answerer that was trying to upsell me to the more expensive 26" hardtails. BOOO! F- on customer service. Very evasive and shifty (if not shitty ) sell tactics.

    But that aside, kick ass bike. Heavy bike ( I am curious about the Ti 29ers coming out at the end of 08), but really good bike. I do not think you would be disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth Cow
    Hey there blkdog7. Thanks for joining. Here is my opinion about the bike geometry and sizing for a 30" inseam:

    I you are used to an 18" approx frame size in a regular mtb, then a 15" is a doable and comfortable transition within the 29er world. It is a different ride and on some loose surfaces I have found I need to sit back on the seat to get significant traction. I think it kinda looks and rides like an oversized bmx (which I rather find cool).

    WIth the stock tires it is fine on pavement. It isn't like riding slicks, but it isn't riding an overly knobby tire, a good in between. I ride it on asphalt, but mainly packed earth roads, and then your various trails. I am taking the bikle to Moab next week for an extended trip and will have a better take on how it fares in that terrain.

    Honestly, I personally think you cannot do wrong with going with a 15" frame. And I personally do not recommend trying to contact Bike's Direct about sizing. I did twice and got a half formulated, cut and paste message that meant nothing relevant to my specific questions and some BS from an anonymous answerer that was trying to upsell me to the more expensive 26" hardtails. BOOO! F- on customer service. Very evasive and shifty (if not shitty ) sell tactics.

    But that aside, kick ass bike. Heavy bike ( I am curious about the Ti 29ers coming out at the end of 08), but really good bike. I do not think you would be disappointed.
    Thanks for the reply. I am now thinking if I order from them I will go Pro. I am also considering a Specialized Comp and a few others. The more I research this the more confused I am getting. Too many choices. I do keep coming back to this bike for the price and the parts. Everyone says it is so heavy. I am not sure this will matter to me since my Giant Iguana is REALLY heavy. So, I am used to the heavy bikes.

    I am just worried that I am too short for a 29er. Or, I am worried that I am being silly for even considering a 29er since I am not very hardcore and will just ride simple trails and might get brave and really go off road.

    I am happy to hear the 15" fits you well. We are pretty much identical in height and inseam.

    I have a lot to think about. I am going to stop at some LBS this weekend and see what I can find.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blkdog7
    Thanks for the reply. I am now thinking if I order from them I will go Pro. I am also considering a Specialized Comp and a few others. The more I research this the more confused I am getting. Too many choices. I do keep coming back to this bike for the price and the parts. Everyone says it is so heavy. I am not sure this will matter to me since my Giant Iguana is REALLY heavy. So, I am used to the heavy bikes.

    I am just worried that I am too short for a 29er. Or, I am worried that I am being silly for even considering a 29er since I am not very hardcore and will just ride simple trails and might get brave and really go off road.

    I am happy to hear the 15" fits you well. We are pretty much identical in height and inseam.

    I have a lot to think about. I am going to stop at some LBS this weekend and see what I can find.

    Thanks!
    I do not think you can go wrong with this bike for what you want to ride, and may eventually graduate to riding. It is fun and comfy. I really do not notice the weight until I lift the bike. What am I going to do more of, lift the bike or ride it? (psssst... ride it)

    The Specialized comp is a totally nice bike in itself. I have ridden it and many other Specialized. In fact, I would probably even buy a Specialized over a Motobecane if I had twice the cash. The components on this bike are slick for the cash.

    Good luck in your future purchase of whatever and please tell us what you get when you get it!
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    Well, I bailed on the idea of getting a Motebacane and a 29er. The guy at the LBS really talked me out of a 29er.

    So.. I picked up a Cannondale F3 today for $950.00. It's a pretty sweet bike. I like it so far. Oh, well...


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    Nice Cannondale, mail-order bikes aren't for everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by blkdog7
    Well, I bailed on the idea of getting a Motebacane and a 29er. The guy at the LBS really talked me out of a 29er.

    So.. I picked up a Cannondale F3 today for $950.00. It's a pretty sweet bike. I like it so far. Oh, well...

    That is a sweet bike, man! Great pick!
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    I took Geb, my bike, out to Moab this past Father's Day weekend and it was a great experience all around. The bike worked wonderfully. I absolutely loved how it tore through slickrock at Bar M Loop on the Bar A slickrock portion. The Tora shock worked very well in both the locked and unlocked position. It climbed Klondike Bluffs without it being cumbersome at all.

    It also did very well in pedaling through loose sand, compared to a Felt Virtue we had on hand. The 29er wheels have such drive it loves to plow through anything.

    On the level Earth it just gripped and threw me down the path with ease.

    What can I say other than this is one of the best bikes I have ever played in the dirt with. AAA+!
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    Does anyone have a picture of the Fantom 29 in Matte Red?

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    what?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by blkdog7
    Well, I bailed on the idea of getting a Motebacane and a 29er. The guy at the LBS really talked me out of a 29er.

    So.. I picked up a Cannondale F3 today for $950.00. It's a pretty sweet bike. I like it so far. Oh, well...

    Oh man! This really pisses me off. Another lbs giving out crappy advice about 29er. Gee, what are the odds?

    THe thing is, many LBSs either dont' stock or don't udnerstand 29ers so they just tell people to get the tried and true 26ers. I mean, nobody every lost their jobs over choosing what has been chosen for the last 20 years.

    at 5'9" you are not too short for a 29er. I have a frined who is 5'2" and rides a 29er. She loves it. She says its the only way she can keep up wtih her BF on the downhills, because the roll is that much better. Don't tell me you are too small for a 29er.

    If you are 5'9" with a 30" pant inseam, I would have steered you towards the 17" Motobecane. I have the 19" and its perfect for me, and I'm 5'10" with a 32" pant inseam.

    Well, no worries. The C'dale is a nice bike. I'm sure you will be happy with it.

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    My Fantom Pro 29 arrives next Tuesday and I can't wait! How is the set up? Is there anything really technical that needs to be done or could I do it myself? I don't know much about bikes, but I would like to learn. Also, do LBS care about setting up a bike bought online? Thanks in advance for the info, I can't wait to get out and ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meeksterisu
    My Fantom Pro 29 arrives next Tuesday and I can't wait! How is the set up? Is there anything really technical that needs to be done or could I do it myself? I don't know much about bikes, but I would like to learn. Also, do LBS care about setting up a bike bought online? Thanks in advance for the info, I can't wait to get out and ride.
    If it anything like how I got my Fly Ti, you will be well served by talking to somebody who has at least some experience setting up disk brakes.

    I had to attach the front caliper, front rotor, tune it, tune rear derailleur - even as it was set up fairly nicely to start with, set up fork for my weight (not done yet, experimenting with SiD), check all bolts, fittings, replace crankset with a different one.. It is rather simple, ad it will pay off to learn how to do that. Just follow the instructions. Tons of good instrction on this very site. (For example: Suspension Set-up Basics for the Beginner)

    Still took less time then driving to and from a store.

    If LBS gives you attitude, while you are paying them money for service - pick another LBS. Attitude and lack of broad knowledge is why I do not set my feet in stores anymore. With an exception of one guy whom I trust, and who rebuilds my forks and does other messy jobs.

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    I put my Fantom together for my initial rides and it worked well (meaning the remaining build on the bike was minimal). Once I took it into an LBS for a tune up it worked exceptionally. I too worried that an LBS would care about finishing a build or doing a full tune up on a bike bought online, but repairs and tweaks are their bread and butter in between bike sales. No attitude other than a postive one was experienced here.
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