• 12-01-2012
    bob13bob
    motobecane frame design, cable routing on top = inferior looks, superior design.
    While my moto frame looks less cool than my marin, It's no question which design is better imo. Cable routing on top for the win keeps nice smooth shifting without mud gunking up the cables. I've had to run full length cables on my my marin which costs 60g weight penalty.

    https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S...118_161035.jpg
  • 12-02-2012
    sauprankul
    Better than internal?
  • 12-04-2012
    bob13bob
    Do they make metal internal frames? How do their weights compare to non routed?

    sent from one of my 4 gold leafed iphone4s's