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  1. #26
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    I for one will never debadge my bike !

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    Have a Fantom TI 29 - don't understand the desire to debadge. Don't really care if everybody else likes my bike, it is a damn good bike for a reasonable cost.
    Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea.
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    I love my Motobecane FS Elite, even though I bought it used, it's still been a good ride, but I do want to get a longer crankset for it again, 170mm feels a bit short now lol .
    Finally rolling on 29" x 2.0" Schwalbe Big Apples

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    Voiding a warranty because of sticker removal won't stand up legally.
    "Gee Mr Warranty man..they just fell off."


    Quote Originally Posted by rchan View Post
    I for one will never debadge my bike !
    Me either....I cannot guaranty Zebra stripes and other gaudy colors wont show up on any bike I own...but the badges are there and they are too much work to remove...
    Remember when we were kids and our Mom's said we could not play in the mud? I'm making up for it now!!

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    Moto pride!

    Bought my first Moto almost 6 months ago to the day...Don't think I'll ever buy another brand.

    Bought the Fly Team 29 Ti. It is sweet as candied cherries. For me I have found that most real MTBers like the fact that it is different. I adventure race so its a wacked crowd anyway and we all like weird stuff. That's why we adventure race.

    As far as the Moto-haters on here...I think they hate just because they relize how much money they wasted on the bike that they bought!

    Actually ordering the wife one in the next couple of months!

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    - compared my 2012 Fly Ti 29er frame to a Moots Ti 26er, circa 1998, and they were built is incredibly similar fashion........I was really surprised, and so was the Moots owner.......
    29er Ti SS Rigid / 29er SC Tallboy AL

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    anyone here have a motobecane cyclocross bike?

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    Im interested in the fantom cross CX triple.

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    I know these posts I am making are bound to annoy someone, but I am just trying to get enough posts to PM someone or create my own thread....

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    I heard someone say, "If you want a heavy commuter that can take trails, get a fb roadie or a cyclocross". I've been seriously considering a cyclocross bike. The Fantom Cross CX looks mighty appealing. I want a bike that will grow with me.... right now I'm mostly interested in paved trails, but I would like to try out less groomed trails and light mountain biking with the same bike. Also, I like that that particular model is set up for front and rear racks and other accessories.

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    I know nothing of specs and I'm assuming I should attempt a fit at a LBS. But just in case anyone has any advice regarding size, I am 5'8 with a 31 inch inseam.The only thing that really makes me nervous about buying that particular model is that it is more expensive than I had planned on (reviews i have read suggest I will wanna buy a new seat too)... and I have never had a drop down bar (my previous bikes have always been upright flat bar style). Any feedback would be appreciated!

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    I ordered the 2014 550HT and still waiting for it to show up..I went to a trek and specialized dealer and looked around...In all honesty the motobecane from Bikesdirect has much better components or equal components and its was 200 to 250 dollars or more cheaper. You need to spend near $600 at a LBS to get what I got for $349 shipped...But anyway; I can work on my bike so I don't need the support the LBS offers to build it for me or want to pay retail for a bike so I went the internet sales route..i wanted more than I got so I went nuts with it..Can see my build in the motobecane thread...The parts im taking off the stock 550 will be used to upgrade another new build im doing as well..Building a new 2103 Mongoose Xr200 like the one MTBR did a review on..I wont be doing the build on this site though.

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    I just ordered my moto Fantom TeamFS for $1600. I love it and it has all XTR, Carbon cranks and rides perfect. i would buy another one in heart beat. As far as what other people think.. I'm old enough to not care. Just ride.

    I can buy a big named brand but that is how you keep money in the bank... be smart.

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    Like the OP 4 years ago, I still have my MB Grand Touring I bought when I was in College. Steel bike. Still rides great. Last year I got the 9'iron and that has been pretty darned indestructible, so now I've built out a Ti Fly. With a white fork and black Stan's Flows...it's beautiful. My 10th grader is now trying to destroy the 9 iron. Good luck with that.

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    Double post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash Test Dumby View Post
    but they claim to be really proud of their Walgooses. And yet, almost everyone of them peels the stickers off. Hmmmmm, kinda makes me wonder.
    I was peeling the labels off of my junk GS29 that I just built, and I heard a loud and distinct voice saying "You will no longer be called Capt Brian Webb".

    I am so beside myself happy with this bike I am thinking about getting a cheap FS frame and turning my Specialized Sirrus Sport into a mountain bike. Cheap FS frames are hard to find-$3000 frames are easy to come by.
    I'd rather push my 29er than ride a road bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idea man View Post
    My 10th grader is now trying to destroy the 9 iron. Good luck with that.
    Quick update.....the TiFly was so good and so fast that the 10th grader bought it from me and with the proceeds from the sale I bought another frame just like it and built that one out.
    He is now my 11th grader and is racing the Ti. I asked if he wants to go to something FS and carbon and he declined. As my friend Harry Callahan once said, "A man's gotta know his limitations". Titanium from "is the endgame."

    Idea boy appreciates the bulletproofness of the TiFly. It looks corny but now we have matching bikes. Of course mine has the bigger rims, tires and seat, but I am a man of a certain age (and weight), I need more robust stuff. :-) We are on XT/XTR/StansEX bikes for maybe half of what it would cost for a Moots or other named brand. So far, no drama.

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    I don't ride a Motobecane but know a guy who just bought one as his second bike -- step up from a 2006 vintage HT.

    The only people who should be debadging their bikes are the guys riding Giants that are nearly the identical frame as a Motobecane, have significantly worse components, and cost $700 more. Motobecane makes some really nice bikes with good component packages. I recommend them to anyone who's looking for their first "real" bike.
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    I just got my Moto used, but man o' man, what an amazing bike!

    Titanium is too pretty to cover up with stickers. That's my preference, so I removed the stickers. I also debaged my Litespeed and ny Raleigh titanium bikes.

    Nothing quite like that dullish grey metallic look. Unless it's highly polished, there's no mistaking it for some other kind of metal.

    Rock on, fellow Moto gear-heads...

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    Take a look at Motobecane's warranty policy before you debadge. I asked them about it. Here's the dialog.

    I am seriously considering purchasing a Ti Fantom 29er. If I remove the decals from the frame would it still qualify for the 100 year warranty? Donít worry, I just like the look of a bare titanium frame and I have always run my titanium frames that way.

    Respectfully,

    (bigmatt)

    Matt,

    Thank you for your inquiry. We do not recommend removing decals due to the fact that it will void the warranty on the bicycle.


    Have a great day and thanks for shopping at Bikes Direct,

    The Bikes Direct Sales Team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmatt125 View Post
    Take a look at Motobecane's warranty policy before you debadge. I asked them about it. Here's the dialog.

    I am seriously considering purchasing a Ti Fantom 29er. If I remove the decals from the frame would it still qualify for the 100 year warranty? Donít worry, I just like the look of a bare titanium frame and I have always run my titanium frames that way.

    Respectfully,

    (bigmatt)

    Matt,

    Thank you for your inquiry. We do not recommend removing decals due to the fact that it will void the warranty on the bicycle.


    Have a great day and thanks for shopping at Bikes Direct,

    The Bikes Direct Sales Team


    How to void a Moto warranty (a how to guide):

    Step 1 - Buy a used bike with no tangible proof on how it was ridden / treated by previous owner

    Step 2 - Put a 130mm fork on a frame built for 100mm

    Step 3 - Remove one or more stickers from the frame

    To be fair though, there was someone from the Giant forum who saw it fit to strip the paint off his heat treated aluminum Reign and powder coated it a really nice copper color. But I remember the frame snapping a short while later.

    Ultimately, it came down to the fact that the owner was free to do what he wanted with his bike.

    I might have been mistaken, but I believe Giant later offered Reigns in a similar copper color. It was a really nice color.

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