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    Fly Ti. and BD service.

    Got my Fly Ti pro. Great bike, really responsive and climbs great. The spec is fantastic. The Richey seatpost is a weak spot, Hard to get the seat to stay in place, works loose easy. Put a nevegal tire on the front and after a few rides it became clear I need a bigger cog in the rear so put on a xt cassette with a 34.
    Did have a problem with the rear wheel, Hub locked up on first ride.
    BD sent me a label to ship it back and fixed it within a week and returned it quickly.
    Did not cost me a thing, I was very pleased with BD customer service and would
    buy from them again.
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    Thats great to hear about the service! I offend wondered what I would do if I had to send my Ti back. I need to change out my rear gear too. XT or XRT? I also put on some tubeless tires on to smooth the ride out. Good luck.

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    Why do you guys need to change out the cassette?

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    its more of a road cassette. (small)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bends But Doesn't Break
    Why do you guys need to change out the cassette?
    They need one extra gear to clear hills. Which makes me wonder if they got the right bike.

    I m not going to discuss it again though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bends But Doesn't Break
    Why do you guys need to change out the cassette?
    Because some people actually ride mountain bikes...up mountains

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72
    Because some people actually ride mountain bikes...up mountains
    Actually those who do, do not wuss out in the very last gear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    Actually those who do, do not wuss out in the very last gear.

    I see...so now your calling Lance Armstrong and Dave Weins both wusses?...because they both used 11-34 cassettes when they both rode the Leadville 100 in under 7 hours

    Your such a clueless chode

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72
    I see...so now your calling Lance Armstrong and Dave Weins both wusses?...because they both used 11-34 cassettes when they both rode the Leadville 100 in under 7 hours

    Your such a clueless chode
    No, I am calling you a clueless wuss.

    Lance is strong enough to carry around whatever he wants and his sponsor provides. I doubt he ever switched down from middle, much less engaged 22-34. When a pro racer goes in a middle ring, broader cassette is useful; for us, mortals, better gear selection is more important.
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    thats a great post Curmy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBguru71
    thats a great post Curmy
    ?? Huh...??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    Actually those who do, do not wuss out in the very last gear.

    That may be the most ignorant thing I've ever read on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splangy
    That may be the most ignorant thing I've ever read on this forum.
    You do not read it much then. Go for example here: Talk me into a lightweight 11-34 cassette... possible to drop 40-45g?, and tell that guy he is an idiot, since you are on a mission to insult people. This guy Talk me into a lightweight 11-34 cassette... possible to drop 40-45g? too.

    If you disagree, say so. The fact that I have a different opinion, which is actually shared by a whole lot of people, including then your does not make me ignorant.

    People had been riding 28t cassettes on heavy bikes for years. Not a problem. Race bike sold by, say Trek, with 29t front ring in a double, have higher gearing the 22/27 on Fly. If you do not know that, that make you ignorant - and arrogant.

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    You assumed that the person using the full range of his gears (22/34) is a "wuss". That was an ignorant statement to make.

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    He's not only ignorant, but a complete Tool

    Curmy your a five star flaming idiot and I hope I meet you someday so I can say it to your face when you puss out calling me a wuss to mine

    BTW-there is a section on the Leadville 100 called the Powerline that practically everyone walks its so steep. Even Dave Weins had walked it every year. But both he and Lance rode it this year and I can guarantee they were both in there 22/34 combo...still think they are wusses for riding in that combo? There is a video online, look it up if you have the balls to admit how wrong you really are

    Peace out CHODE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72
    ... ignorant ...complete Tool

    ... five star flaming idiot and I hope I meet you someday so I can say it to your face when you puss out calling me a wuss to mine


    You are more then welcome to meet me if you drop by SF Bay Area. Drop me a line.

    No, I am not wrong. Thousand of riders running 2x9 setups, and everybody who had been running 28 cassettes are not wrong either. All you pathetic hysterics do not mask that you could not comprehend what I was explaining to you - optimal gearing depends on the bike, tires and the trail.

    Or maybe you can comprehend, but enjoy being hysterical on the internet.

    If you can not argue without obscenities, do not argue. You not only look like an idiot, you also can not make a coherent argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy


    You are more then welcome to meet me if you drop by SF Bay Area. Drop me a line.

    No, I am not wrong. Thousand of riders running 2x9 setups, and everybody who had been running 28 cassettes are not wrong either. All you pathetic hysterics do not mask that you could not comprehend what I was explaining to you - optimal gearing depends on the bike, tires and the trail.

    Or maybe you can comprehend, but enjoy being hysterical on the internet.

    If you can not argue without obscenities, do not argue. You not only look like an idiot, you also can not make a coherent argument.
    I actually run a 2x9 on one of my race bikes. I completely understand what you are saying. That still makes you an ignoramous for calling people a "wuss" for using a 22/34 gear combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    ...you could not comprehend what I was explaining to you - optimal gearing depends on the bike, tires and the trail.
    Funny, because you never said that before. Your original statement that "They need one extra gear to clear hills. Which makes me wonder if they got the right bike." has no qualifiers; its just an insult. OK maybe there is one qualifier about the type of bike, but that would still be arrogant because no one is required to enter races and act tough just because they bought a light bike that others use for racing. They are allowed to buy a bike for whatever purpose they want (who wouldn't want a great deal on a nice light bike for xc trail riding) and make modifications as they see fit to fulfill that purpose.

    Actually, I'm not really sure what you are trying to argue. We understand that many people are happy with higher gear ranges. Great for them! No on here ever insulted you or the other people that use higher gearing and smaller cassettes, on the contrary we respect their will and their strength.

    But we are not necessarily those people and we will set up our bikes in whatever way we enjoy riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splangy
    I actually run a 2x9 on one of my race bikes. I completely understand what you are saying. That still makes you an ignoramous for calling people a "wuss" for using a 22/34 gear combo.
    No it does not, when it is taken in the context of our previous "argument" with this obscenities spewing "former wrench". I am not blaming you for not reading that drivel in advance. Sorry for not being more clear.

    P.S. If you want truly ridiculous - read the post above mine claiming that one got to change 12-27 cassette on Fly to be able to ride "up mountains". Which not only flies in the face of experience of every single speeder, 2x9 racer, weight weenie and everybody who started riding when 28t cassettes had been common, but also got the author of that nonsense so riled up that he can not stop shaking and spewing obscenities. Yes, it was that bad.
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    I see, I guess its better to start sending me private messages asking me to come down to the bay area to meet face to face, like I'd ever spend a penny to see your sorry face....Like I said, if I run into you on a trail I'll be happy too tell you to your face...or your can spend your pennies and come on up!

    And you still didn't bother to look at the multitude of videos showing Dave and Lance in a 22/34 combo riding in the Leadville 100...so instead you try and flip the argument, LAME

    -You spout off about being a PHD and a Rocket Scientist...but then criticize me about mentioning my experience. Then you call me uneducated...Then you criticize my education as if its somehow inferior to yours. And all of this means NOTHING when it comes to bikes.

    -You get super pissy about people questioning your opinion, but jump all over others (not just me) who don't agree with you

    -You do the same crap in other forums too, like this one Comments? with at least three people calling you out

    -Now your spouting off about obscenities...oh my, Chode, Jerk, Idiot...wow, how do you ever survive these awful obscenities...last time I checked, unless you get creative with your spelling...obscenities are censored on MTBR (but not in private messages, that was an obscenity that I called you since you've sunk that low to private message me!)

    -LOOK AT YOUR POSTS TOWARDS ME...LOOKS LIKE THE POT CALLING THE TEA KETTLE BLACK!

    I'm done with your sorry arse, come on up if you want a face to face, otherwise piss off loser

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72
    I see, I guess its better to start sending me private messages asking me to come down to the bay area to meet face to face, like I'd ever spend a penny to see your sorry face....Like I said, if I run into you on a trail I'll be happy too tell you to your face...or your can spend your pennies and come on up!

    And you still didn't bother to look at the multitude of videos showing Dave and Lance in a 22/34 combo riding in the Leadville 100...so instead you try and flip the argument, LAME

    -You spout off about being a PHD and a Rocket Scientist...but then criticize me about mentioning my experience. Then you call me uneducated...Then you criticize my education as if its somehow inferior to yours. And all of this means NOTHING when it comes to bikes.

    -You get super pissy about people questioning your opinion, but jump all over others (not just me) who don't agree with you

    -You do the same crap in other forums too, like this one Comments? with at least three people calling you out

    -Now your spouting off about obscenities...oh my, Chode, Jerk, Idiot...wow, how do you ever survive these awful obscenities...last time I checked, unless you get creative with your spelling...obscenities are censored on MTBR (but not in private messages, that was an obscenity that I called you since you've sunk that low to private message me!)

    -LOOK AT YOUR POSTS TOWARDS ME...LOOKS LIKE THE POT CALLING THE TEA KETTLE BLACK!

    I'm done with your sorry arse, come on up if you want a face to face, otherwise piss off loser


    Q.E.D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    Funny, because you never said that before.
    I did, in another thread in this forum. I had made an observation that there is nothing wrong that buying a race hardtail set up with a 12-27 . It is not without precedent, and it is a reasonable conclusion that a light bike with very skinny tires and high gearing is build for a purpose. There is one with 2.3 tires and 32t cassette on the same frame being sold right next to it by bikesdirect. So my observation about getting the right bike is not insulting.

    Then that person, his rumbling vitriolic post you can see below, got really upset with something. Quite amusing to watch.

    I also do not understand what is here to argue.

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    This is good stuff! Thanks for the entertainment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    I did, in another thread in this forum.
    I'm sorry for not researching your entire post history before I tried to respond

    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    I had made an observation that there is nothing wrong that buying a race hardtail set up with a 12-27.
    I agree. And I also agree that a huge cassette isn't necessary to get up most hills (my only bike is a singlespeed for crying out loud). But not everyone is a xc racer or training to be one, and not everyone wants to mash their pedals up every climb.

    Quote Originally Posted by Curmy
    It is not without precedent, and it is a reasonable conclusion that a light bike with very skinny tires and high gearing is build for a purpose. There is one with 2.3 tires and 32t cassette on the same frame being sold right next to it by bikesdirect. So my observation about getting the right bike is not insulting.
    You mean the one with a lower grade derailleurs, shifters, cranks, brakes, etc? So they should compromise all those other upgrades they wanted just because the tires and cassette were meant for racing?

    Every other part on the Ti Team is fully capable for trail riding. If the OP wanted a light Ti trail bike with XTR components then this is the closest thing BD sells and the OP bought the right bike for himself

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    I'm sorry for not researching your entire post history before I tried to respond
    Your apology is accepted.

    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    I agree. And I also agree that a huge cassette isn't necessary to get up most hills (my only bike is a singlespeed for crying out loud). But not everyone is a xc racer or training to be one, and not everyone wants to mash their pedals up every climb.
    With 12 to 27 you are missing out 1 gear compared with a 12 to 32. Seems like a far cry from mashing, given the bike's weight. I think I even did some calculation that it requires the exact same force to maintain uphill speed in 22-27 on a 20lb bike, then with a 12-32 on a 35lb 29r for a 150lb rider.

    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    You mean the one with a lower grade derailleurs, shifters, cranks, brakes, etc? So they should compromise all those other upgrades they wanted just because the tires and cassette were meant for racing?
    No, they should not, if they feel like it. I have swapped out cranks for 172.5 ones, changed rear disk to 140 G3, changed seatpost, saddle, gear cables and housing, headset, water cage bolts, rim tape, seatpost clamp...

    My out of context post here was mostly in response to the odd statement that one need to swap out a cassette to get "up mountains" - below the rhetorical question by Bends.

    I am glad we at least could provide some entertainment. That's what why internet was invented - flame and porn.

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