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    Pets Sunday the 18th at 9-9:30ish am? Meet at fatguybikings place.
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    Just a suggestion. This time of year you're better off planning rides for the afternoons. That gives the trails time to dry out from the overnight dew and frost.
    In a few more weeks after we start getting some hard freezes, the morning will be better so you can get out before the trails start to thaw. Same thing applies in late winter.
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    Took your advise trailville, went around 11 today and the trails were bustling with hikers, runners, and bikers. It was also much warmer than this morning.
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    Any idea how many days of freezing temps it will take for the ground to freeze and able to be ridden?
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    It doesn't look like we got enough rain yesterday for the river to overflow it's banks (except maybe a couple of low spots), so I don't think there is a flooding issue.

    It's going to be very cold tonight so I think it should freeze up pretty good by tomorrow. May be some isolated spots where you have thin ice over puddles with mud underneath, but most of the trail should be good to go. Prepare for cold toes.

    It is supposed to be sunny tomorrow though, so there may be some issues with south facing slopes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trailville View Post
    It doesn't look like we got enough rain yesterday for the river to overflow it's banks (except maybe a couple of low spots), so I don't think there is a flooding issue.

    It's going to be very cold tonight so I think it should freeze up pretty good by tomorrow. May be some isolated spots where you have thin ice over puddles with mud underneath, but most of the trail should be good to go. Prepare for cold toes.

    It is supposed to be sunny tomorrow though, so there may be some issues with south facing slopes.
    Nice, I was thinking it might take several days of freezing temperature to make the trails ridable.

    I guess buying a new bike in November is a bad idea. I've been really chomping on the bit to take it out, but have only gotten one real ride so far. Hopefully I'll make it out there sometime over the holidays.
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    Well I could be wrong. I guessed wrong that last time I went out there and ended up only doing about a mile of trails before heading back on the park roads. Since then I've been waiting for a hard freeze like this.

    And I don't mean to dampen your excitement, but I personally wouldn't take a brand new bike out in these conditions. Some forks and shocks don't react well to really cold temps and you hate to screw something up on your first ride. Not to mention the salt you'll get on it if you do any road connectors. If you still have your old bike, you may want to stick with that until spring and then maybe give your new bike a shot at winter next year when it's no longer your shiny new bike.
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    any of you pets locals interested in a new years day ride . havn't riden out there in years sooo lookking for a little guiding and riding . we will be out there tues.morn at 11 am . not sure what lot to park in either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mofxr View Post
    any of you pets locals interested in a new years day ride . havn't riden out there in years sooo lookking for a little guiding and riding . we will be out there tues.morn at 11 am . not sure what lot to park in either.
    Tomorrow, we'll be meeting up at Pets by the large lot between the dog park and the spring water station at 11.
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    surprisingly good conditions today

    After finding glare ice on my sidewalk and driveway this morning, I wasn't sure what I would find on the trails, but trail conditions were surprisingly good.

    Even though there was a layer of icy crusty stuff on almost the entire trail, traction was great. I rode everything I normally ride including playing on some of the steep side trails. However, I just couldn't get myself to 100% trust my traction so I was taking corners really slow and dabbed a foot quite a few times playing on the steep stuff. It was weird because I was absolutely not slipping, but I just did not trust that trail surface .

    Looks like mud is in the future for next week, early AM tomorrow should be good, but the rest of the week and next weekend doesn't look promising based on the current forecast.
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    I was wondering how long it would take to thaw out with the warm weather this week. Thanks for the heads up.
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    Good to know it doesnt retain mushy slush... Pets will be on my winter riding spots fo shizzo
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    Quote Originally Posted by gearhead313 View Post
    Good to know it doesnt retain mushy slush... Pets will be on my winter riding spots fo shizzo
    It retains plenty of slush/snow/ice. We just haven't had any snow this year, the storms have all been missing us. We've had great riding in recent weeks, but now it looks like we will need to wait a week or so for the next freeze.
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    It's almost certainly going to be too muddy tomorrow, soooo???
    I'm just mentioning because I got out to Pets on Tuesday for a great winter ride (it was fantastic that day) and couldn't help but notice the deep ruts from people that rode in the mud last weekend.
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    Is it spring yet?
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    It's going to be a while.
    I was out there yesterday on snowshoes. And I don't wear snowshoes unless the snow is too deep to hike without them (it definitely was). We should see a lot of melting over the next week but there is a lot there to melt and we would need a good hard freeze after that to get any riding in. We got lucky the last couple of years and had some good March riding, I'm kind of doubting we'll see much if any this year. Though I'm sure the geniuses that leave those ruts in the mud will be out there in a few weeks.
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    With great sadness I'm not expecting any dry trail riding until the end of April or May. :-(
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    C'mon sun, dry out those trails!!!
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    It's gonna be a while.

    Unfortunately someone will probably ride out there this weekend and make a real mess of the trails. Probably a pair of riders because stupid likes company.

    My guess is there is still some snow and ice on the north-facing slopes, some of the south-facing slopes may be starting to firm up, and everything else is muck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trailville View Post
    It's gonna be a while.

    Unfortunately someone will probably ride out there this weekend and make a real mess of the trails. Probably a pair of riders because stupid likes company.
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    With the warmer weather this weekend I sent out a reminder yesterday on https://www.facebook.com/krmountainbikers yesterday.
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    Did a road/paved path ride on my touring bike this morning and passed through Pets.
    And look what I saw when the paved trail passed by the access points to the singletrack.
    Petrifying Springs Kenosha Official 2011 Trail Report Thread-tracks.jpg
    As Forest Gump says "stupid is as stupid does".


    And to get an idea how long it will be before things dry out, here's a pic of a north-facing area of the woods. There's still a lot of melting to go before the drying starts. This is about the worst late-March conditions I remember (not that I expect to be riding in late march, but there's rarely this much snow and ice still on the trails). Even if the weather cooperates, we've got weeks before things dry out. Throw in some April rain and it could be a very long time.
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    Yeah, I did the paved path and road yesterday. Even then I came home with mud on my bike. The paved trails still had tons of ice/mud/water on them. The place is an absolute mess. I also saw some fresh tire marks on the downhill exit near the NW most playground. Also around the gates near the sledding hill.
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    We need some 70+ days with full sun, to even make a dent in that snow base.
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    Just in case the sunny weather this week has someone considering riding this weekend, the trails still need a lot more time to dry out.
    And given the rain in the forecast next week, April riding this year may not happen.
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    All the snow gone yet? Jones real bad for some closer riding. Any word on Kettle, also?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosted Flakes View Post
    All the snow gone yet? Jones real bad for some closer riding. Any word on Kettle, also?
    Except for some small isolated spots, the snow should be pretty much gone (probably completely gone after this morning's rain).

    All the rain in the forecast this week ain't exactly going to dry out the trails, but it should at least help to thaw the ground below the surface so once we get a stretch of warm dry weather things should be able to dry out.

    For the Kettles, you can just check their hotline (I wouldn't bother checking it now though). They know riders are eager to ride so when things start drying out this time of year they will sometimes give a notice a day or so before they actually open the trails.

    In most cases, if the Kettles are closed, you can usually assume Pets is not ready to be ridden. There are sometimes exceptions, but the Kettles dry out quicker than Pets.

    Pets conditions are similar to the river trails in Milwaukee so you can use their status (see link Below) to help determine conditions at Pets.
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    The Kettles are at least a few weeks away from opening. As of last weekend there was still a good couple of inches of snow and ice on some sections. The other sections were either mud pits or had heavy frost in the ground. Although some jack a$$es have already been trying to ride them.

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    Anybody want to go ride today? Don't forget your water wings!




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    Are those pics from yesterday or today?

    The water should be dropping quite a bit today. The Pike river drains out quicker than some of the inland rivers like the DesPlaines River and Fox which haven't even crested yet.

    Should be a lot of mud tomorrow, and I would bet some fresh tire tracks in it by the end of the weekend.
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    Yeah, they are from yesterday around 3pm.
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    That's what I figured.
    Most of that major flooding should be gone now, but there will be a lot trapped in low spots, and with the ground that saturated it's going to take a while to dry out.

    I don't want to get anyone too excited, but the extended forecast is finally looking a little more promising.

    FYI, Here is a graph of the water levels. You can check waterlevels at
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    My wife was running at pets today and told me she saw some guys riding on the trails. I'm pretty sure they aren't dry enough yet, but the weather towards the end of the week does look promising. **fingers crossed**
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    We'll all be able to see signs of their awesomeness when we get out after the trails dry ( soon I think). The high ground was probably getting nice but there's no way the low ground is not muddy.

    There's probably going to still be some mud by the weekend, but I'm figuring everyone will be out riding by then so you may as well get out there. Would be better if people waited until the afternoons though. Next week looks really good.

    If the forecast holds true, I would think the Kettles will be open this weekend as well.
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    I would guess that things are still pretty soft now, but tomorrow is going to be warm AND sunny AND windy AND low dew points AND since there are no leaves on the trees should result in some nice drying happening.

    There will still be isolated muddy spots this weekend and I would encourage riders to opt for hike-a-bike on these sections (assuming you can't hop it). I know you'll see other tracks already there, but the more people that ride through this stuff, the deeper the ruts that hold the water that keep these spots perpetually muddy.

    And afternoon rides should be better than morning rides.
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    I have yet to ride this trail. really want to make it out there this year.

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    Went out yesterday, trails are a little rough from the flooding, but definitely rid-able. There were a few muddy spots with deep ruts that have been ridden though quite a bit. The one surprise was how much sand was on the trails, that was a little tough to ride through.

    BTW, it looks like someone dragged the "Water Shed" bridge about ½ mile back into place.
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    Ride baby ride! Was there this morning and its in great shape, very tiny pockets of mud here or there, it is ready.
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    Riders Needed at Beulah Park!!!
    Anyone that likes riding Pets is going to like Beulah. Similar terrain and only 15 miles to the South.
    There have been some new trails put in and they seriously need to get ridden. More info at this post in the IL forum.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/midwest-il-oh...br-850603.html
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    I was out there Memorial day - not too bad. There were some pockets of mud but I walked around them.
    Anybody know what kind if condition they are today?

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    Too wet today. We had some good rain last night and things were already pretty damp before that.
    Monday afternoon or Tuesday should be better with some lower dew points coming.
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    Trails at Pets are in great shape right now, as are the trails in Beulah Park.
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    Mixed bag today out at Pets. Most areas were very nice, but there were some isolated muddy areas that were really muddy (a lot wetter than I expected given the dry air we've had recently). The bad areas were all on the UW Parkside property (all the trails in Pets were much better). I didn't even attempt to ride most of the low floodplain areas on the UWP land. Also getting some overgrown areas (normal for this time of year).

    Beulah park has been drying out slightly faster than Pets, so that may be a better option tomorrow. There's also a scheduled workday for Beulah on Sunday afternoon if anyone is interested.
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    I was out there recently too. I noticed on the UWP side it has some washed out areas and overgrown. I was wondering what is going on out there because the bridge below shed is gone and in park area they have done some trimming of trees and weeds.

    Been riding Beulah quite a bit now. It's closer anyway.

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    I was out at Pets last sunday. It wasnt bad at all.. i like the tackyness it gets. I only got off once at a puddle that I couldnt get around. The top side loop shredded nicely, not getting overgrown like the east end.
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    Ground Wasp Warning!

    May be just a fluke, but I was stung twice this week at Pets so I figured I'd warn in case anyone is allergic. The first time for sure was a ground wasp , I was on foot and saw the swarming nest after I was stung. Today I was riding and was stung in the hand, I briefly saw it before I smacked the back of my hand against my bars to get if off and think it may have also been a ground wasp.

    Ground wasps are small (a little smaller than a honey bee I think) but are very aggressive at protecting their nests (not my first experience with them).

    If you are allergic to wasp stings, you may want to skip Pets for a while.

    Otherwise, real nice riding conditions.
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    Who is maintaining these trails? I would really like to volunteer my time in helping with the maintainence. The most northwest section really has developed into a nice down hill single-track.

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    Went out and rode 8/25. Trails were very good shape. A little overgrown in some spots -which is expected.

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    Friday's rain pretty much missed Pets so very good riding conditions this weekend.
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