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    Hey Slayer! I'm the guy who loaned you the allen wrench Monday.
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    Tonight after the rain.

    And Saturday, Sunday & Monday.

    Yup.

    BTW the trail held up to the rain pretty well. There were some low spots that had standing water, but 95% of the tread actually looked dry. But it certainly downpoured earlier - hail & wind - very impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13
    Hey Slayer! I'm the guy who loaned you the allen wrench Monday.
    Thanks again Jeff! Being able to use my front brake made my ride more enjoyable and you were right, the other side of cable was nice.

    I hope to see you out there again.

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    Some WB video from this last weekend, on the gorge side trails:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM2_JmDki1k

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampboy62
    Some WB video from this last weekend, on the gorge side trails:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM2_JmDki1k

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    Seems like not many people riding up in NE Ohio with the snow. I've been to Quail Hollow, Beaver Creek and West Branch and only seen one other set of tire tracks (at Quail Hollow). West Branch is my home trail, so I've been there several times, though the riding is much better at Beaver Creek right now.

    Anyway, I went out to West Branch this morning and rode on the gorge side trails for a while. Here's a bit of video from the ride:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfjO3yDkKy8

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampboy62
    Seems like not many people riding up in NE Ohio with the snow. I've been to Quail Hollow, Beaver Creek and West Branch and only seen one other set of tire tracks (at Quail Hollow). West Branch is my home trail, so I've been there several times, though the riding is much better at Beaver Creek right now.

    Anyway, I went out to West Branch this morning and rode on the gorge side trails for a while. Here's a bit of video from the ride:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfjO3yDkKy8

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    WB closed today (March 1st) till the 3rd Sat. in May (if dry).

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    Spring closer because they say it's too muddy all spring. Even though the top half is more rock than dirt! I wish they would just close the one half of it but... Oh well. I usually hike the trail and clear sticks and trees before it opens. At one time I fixed ALL the ruts on the trail and a few asswipes rode thru the next day and messed it all back up again. I did'nt bother doing that the following spring for obvious reasons!

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    Sounds a little heavy handed to me. I'm getting ready to move up to that area and am a little concerned. It sounds like the land managers in the area either hate mountain bikes (cleveland metroparks), ignore mtbs (CVNP), or don't quite know how to manage mountain bikes (WBSP).
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    All I know is that I hate waiting for three months every spring to ride there. But it does give us time to do repairs and stuff. It's mainly volunteers who do all the work. We are'nt supposed to ride when it's too muddy either. Kinda takes the mountain out of biking if you ask me. You will love the trail if you ride it though. They're adding 6 more miles to it this year too! It'll be 16 to 24 miles depending on how you ride it. We all have to go to other trails around here till it opens, but non are as cool as WBSP.

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    There are lots of great trails other then west branch around here. West branch just tends to stay wet longer then the other trails. Go to Vultures Knob or Mohican instead. Vultures Knob is a more diverse trail anyway.

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    I agree. But for me WB is right up the road from me and it's able for me to nail it every day when my body can take it. By the time I drive to the knob I have already rode WB and I'm back home drinkin a beer. It does stay wet in the spring except for the rock gardens. If people would stay on the armour instead of being lazy and riding around it all the time then it would'nt get so messed up either. I'll take WB over the Knob any day of the week. The Knob's XC trail was only 6 miles the last time I rode there and I like a liitle longer of a ride most of the time. I do like the trail alot though, but it's just not close to me like WB is.

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    You can never argue with trails being close. The closest trail to me is 40 minutes, so I dont get that luxury. It sucks that they closed the killbuck section, that added about 4-5 miles to the trail. They have made a lot of changes to the knob over the last year or two though, its worth making a trip to if you havent in a while.

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    Yeah, they seem to change it every year! I did't get out there last year but I plan on hittin' it in a couple weeks or so. I did Medina and Quail Hollow last year in the spring. I could have rode the vintage ridged frame there with no problem. I have to do 4 laps at Quail to get a good ride in and it gets a little boring sometimes.

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    There was a big difference between 09' and 10' at the knob. Not much longer but a much more fun ride. Medina Regan park is very flat and boring, I try not to ride there I have never been to Quail hollow before, But if you day you have to do 4 laps, then it sound like Erie Canal(where I do 5-7 laps when I ride there)

    All this talk makes me want to ride outside pretty badly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thumpduster
    Sounds a little heavy handed to me. I'm getting ready to move up to that area and am a little concerned. It sounds like the land managers in the area either hate mountain bikes (cleveland metroparks), ignore mtbs (CVNP), or don't quite know how to manage mountain bikes (WBSP).
    If you're really into riding it's something you should consider - but it does seem like prospects are generally looking up.

    The thing at WB is like Andy says - the gorge side is generally not as affected by the spring rains and is often good enough to ride. But the dirt on the lake side is just soft and loose in the rain - it doesn't handle lots of water well at all (the reason for the extensive East Davis re-route two years ago). And regardless of the closure it seems like there's always some halfwit that breaks the rules and ruts up the trails. I can hardly imagine how bad it would be if the trails weren't closed during that time. But maybe - keep open only the gorge side trails? Put up some new signs - this trail closed -this one open - and hope that people have enough sense to keep off the gorgeside when it's REALLY too wet?? I'd hate to be the one to make that call.

    Just need to get together a group and head west to some of the hardier trails in PA on the weekends. Moraine or Kennerdell. Maybe Two Mile Run. It's only like an hour and a quarter each way. I could conceivably show some fellow Buckeyes around over there if you don't mind riding with a slow old guy.

    BTW the new trail being built at WB appears to drain astoundingly well - like it's sand or something. Maybe it could be something that could be open all year.

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    Hey Steve, I was just going to Email you for an address that I can enter in my GPS for Moraine. Do you have one that will put me in the area? It's gonna be 50 degrees this week and I got to ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mullen119
    There was a big difference between 09' and 10' at the knob. Not much longer but a much more fun ride. Medina Regan park is very flat and boring, I try not to ride there I have never been to Quail hollow before, But if you day you have to do 4 laps, then it sound like Erie Canal(where I do 5-7 laps when I ride there)

    All this talk makes me want to ride outside pretty badly!
    I'm with you there. Since it will be in the mid 50's this week, I'm taking off the snow chains and hitting the Knob or Moraine for sure. It will be nice not to get frostbite when I ride for a change!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bataivah
    Hey Steve, I was just going to Email you for an address that I can enter in my GPS for Moraine. Do you have one that will put me in the area? It's gonna be 50 degrees this week and I got to ride!
    If not, that's fine. I'll browse around and find something close (hopefully) that I can use to get me in the general area at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mullen119
    Medina Regan park is very flat and boring
    Really?
    There are two sections to the park area, the Huffman park area, and yes, that is fast 'n flowy, and not real technical, but the older, original Reagan park section has some elevation, and technical sections, even some jumps, that I feel are as good as the Vulture's Knob XC trail (I've ridden everything at Vulture's for years, and miss the Killbuck section.)
    If you park at the Huffman soccer field, are you crossing the street to the Reagan area?

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    Yeah, the Reagan park trail across the street is the only good one of them all IMO. The first time I went there I could'nt find it. It's is a good trail for a ridged fork bike though. If I lived in the Medina area I would ride it regular for a workout but driving an hour or more to get there, I would rather do the Knob or Mohican. The trails on the parking lot side are good for getting the kids into off road riding. I did have fun ripping through the small rolling hills when I was there. I tend to like trails that are out in the middle of the woods and far away from towns and people though. Living right up the road from West Branch, I don't have a need to go too many other places all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bataivah
    I tend to like trails that are out in the middle of the woods and far away from towns and people though.
    Have you been to Mohicah Wilderness? (not the State Park) I bet you'd like it.
    It's one of the few places in the area that feels remote, and "out-there" to me.
    A great "tech-riding" trail, too.

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    Yeah, I cross over to the Reagan side. I have been riding there since before the Huffman park side was around( I am glad they added it) The Reagan side is definitely more fun to ride then the Huffman side, but it still leave me wanting more. I liked Reagan side more when it was longer, back when part of it was on private property and you went down the steep hill by the football field. I thought the bulls eye on the tree was funny.

    I think part of the reason I like the Knob, more then Reagan is because the type of rider I am. I ride a 6'' full suspension bike with flats and jump everything I find, fly down hills(go DHing a few times a year), and climb like im 80 If they added some man made stuff (teeter totters, skinnies and what not), I would probably like it more. Even so, I still ride at reagan 10-15 times a year, so its not as boring to me as a made it sound in my other post.

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    Wow! A 6" FS at Reagan is alot of bike for that trail. After I rode it I wished I took my Full ridged with me so I could of blew the dust off of it (Like I posted earlier). I did'nt need any suspension at all and it felt like it might of been more fun on the old vintage ride. It's not bad to have it there for people who live close to take a quik blast whenever they want. Plus alot of riders like that type of trail too.

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    a 6" bike is to much bike for most the trails around here, but I only have one bike and use it at 7 springs and snow shoe, so I wanted something that was a jack of all trades type bike.

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    No doubt! All Mountain is ALL MOUNTAIN. Is 6" good enough for DH or do you have to slow down a hair. I have 0" in the rear and 4" in the front so DH riding is'nt happening for me. Also 6" rotors. I can't see spending $50-$100 to rent a bike for a day! So I'm stuck with the XC/Trail riding for now. It would be great to have one for every occasion!

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    6" is plenty for 7 springs. I took a hard tail dj bike there the first time I went there. it would be nice to have more at snow shoe, but its decent with only 6"

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    I was'nt sure how compatable an all mountain was with DHing. If I had larger rotors I would give it a try on my hard tail XC.

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    What kind of bike do you have? 7 springs is pretty tame for DH riding. I see people on XC bikes there when I am go. ( Although I think they have a XC trail somewhere, But these guys are riding the DH trails) My wife goes with her 4'' XC bike with 160mm rotors. The first time I went I had 160mm rotors on BB7 brakes and it did the job.

    Random video I found, it shows what its like pretty well(although they took the hard expert trail at the very end):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMo7_DsEELw

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    I have a Giant XTC 26" with 4" Dart 3's on it. I may step up the front forks to a Marzocchi Drop Off 6". That's why I was thinking the brakes were too wimpy for DH. I've backpacked across 7 springs resort before but I never acually rode a bike there.

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    I can see not wanting to go there with a dart 3. I wouldn't get a 150mm fork for your bike though. it will through the geometry off and put a lot of extra stress on the head tube. 130 would be the most I would put on a bike that came with 100mm fork. A 32mm stanchion fork with 120-130 mm travel should be plenty for most riding conditions.

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    I had a feeling that a 6" fork may be too much for a bike with 4" stock fork. The deal is so good for $180 for a $475 fork! I might get it for a future All Mountain build If I can swing the cash. I hate to miss out on the deal!

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    Hard to pass up a deal like that!

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    Yea, but since their too tall I'm thinking Marzocchi 33's with the same travel (100mm)
    for $150. Retail $375 I think!

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    You just missed out on some great deals on some of Manitou's forks. A few places were selling 2010 Manitou Matches and Drakes(now called the Minute expert) for under 200 bucks. They have one of the best dampers out right now (Absolute +). Its kinda a cross between Rock Shox Black Box Motion Control and Mission Control in design. Its the best performing damper in forks under 450$(msrp) right now.

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    Who was selling those? Online?

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    They were online. I think it was at ediscountbike.com fall is the best time to buy. prices are high in the spring since the new stuff just came out and everyone is getting there bikes ready for spring.

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    In case yinz missed it, the trails at West Branch are finally open as of Monday. That means the new trail on the east end off of Porter Road is open to ride. Hit it up on Monday evening - this is one FANTASTIC trail, much different than the other rocky trails at WB. Look for the trailhead off of Porter Road on the right.

    I have a map with the new trail in my FB map gallery (it's the first one):

    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...5&l=ad33eddc7b

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    I just went to West Branch today with my buddy. We did the whole lake side trail, and then went straight to the new quarry trail off of Porter Road. It was a blast, but there were 5 or 6 downed trees on the trail... One of which was MASSIVE! It was definitely a lot of fun though. Tons of rocks!

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    The new quarry trail is awesome! very well put together and planned out..... i really enjoyed that it incorporates not only as many rocks as possible, but in every size shape and form. you really never know what you'll be hit with next! That being said though, it is very rideable and no significant climbs, yet somehow you wind up at the top of hill and majority of the trail seems to be pointing down. Absolutely gorgeous too, once you get onto the trail it seems almost as if it weren't located at west branch at all. With this new addition west branch has become what i feel is easily one of the best trail systems the state has to offer. cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by XCkiller View Post
    The new quarry trail is awesome! very well put together and planned out..... i really enjoyed that it incorporates not only as many rocks as possible, but in every size shape and form. you really never know what you'll be hit with next! That being said though, it is very rideable and no significant climbs, yet somehow you wind up at the top of hill and majority of the trail seems to be pointing down. Absolutely gorgeous too, once you get onto the trail it seems almost as if it weren't located at west branch at all. With this new addition west branch has become what i feel is easily one of the best trail systems the state has to offer. cheers!
    I'd have to agree with your opinion. With the new trail, and the existing rocky sections south of Cable Line Rd, West Branch is as good as any of the western PA trails that I've ridden. You've got to hand it to CAMBA for having the vision to carry out something like this, and also for being able to raise the volunteers to get 2.5 miles of new trail built in just a couple of months. The first trail work day I was at for the new trail had at least 35 people working. Amazing.

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    did my first blast of west branch yesterday. meet alot of really cool and nice people. cant wait to go back.

    lil bit tricky on a DH bike but its all good
    i used to be a hot tar roofer, ya i remember that......day.

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    I love this trail. Plus it's only about 1/2 hr from home.
    If anyone needs/wants a riding buddy here or in this area (I'm in Youngstown) send me a PM.

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    How many miles is the Lakeside trails? It is a beautiful place. I'm a beginner who is out of shape but did what I thought was most of it. The cool curved bridges and how it flows make it a xc dream.
    I like to ride my bike.

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    If you start at the mtb lot and ride in on the beginning of Two Mile (the F loop), and ride all the singletrack through E & D, coming out on Cable Line at D1, and then ride Cable Line back to the parking lot it's about 5.75 miles.

    Those lakeside trails are great for learning. Lots of flowy sections, lots of roots to build skills, a dozen bridges and a couple of minor features to build confidence. And when you've had enough laps on the lakeside so that you're curious just what the "more difficult" trails are like - well, there's plenty of that as well.

    And it just gets better every year, thanks to CAMBA.

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