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    Ore to Shore

    My wife and I are going to do the 28 mile Ore to shore race this August. We have never ridden in Michigan before. What will the trail conditions be like. Is it a technical course? Lots of fire roads? Single track?
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    fast not much Single track, a little rocky, make sure you bring stuff for a flat, its a fun balls out sorta race. Fire roads, two track, very little single track, railroad beds.

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    Thats what I was hoping for. The wife is new to Mtbing and doesn't need 28 miles of single track. Thanks for the info!

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    Winner last year avgd 19.2 mph, definitely a fast race by the numbers. Sounds like lots of big ring riding.
    Anyone ride it on a road/cross bike with fat tires?

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    I saw a few guys with cross bikes, I also saw them trail side fixing flats. I would still qualify this as an MTB race the is enough gnarly stuff in it to almost require fat tires

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    I rode this race, long version, twice a few years back. The last time, I recall the winners, the Eppen's from Iowa, won the race atop a tandem. That tells you how fast the Eppen's are, but also how little tight single track there is there. I also saw a custom Ventana tandem snap at the head-tube junction in a sandy pit.

    Yes, like much of the riding in Michigan, this race has "some" sand. I don't recall seeing a cyclocross bike. I am sure it has/could be done, but you should have very good CX+MTB skills. A "monster cross" bike setup would give you a fighting chance. If it were my first year, I would go with a fat tire ~2.2" wide, hard-tail, 29'er even better. Of course, just a bring-what you-own. The point to point style, mass start & the local volunteers really make this race a blast in my opinion. Stick around for the award ceremony. Take home a case of MI brew.

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    It's a pretty easy race. There's quite a bit of road riding, hard packed double track and the one thing that sucks, sand. There are some REALLY sandy parts, so that would be the only thing I'd urge you to look out for. It's not technical and is pretty sally'ed out imo. If you're in the area and want some real MI trail, stop by Marquette's south trails or go up to Copper Harbor and ride up there. EPIC single track. I'll be doing the hardrock this year, we'll see how that goes. I heard its a bit more technical and grueling, which is ok by me!
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    Been there and done that O2O a few times. Like others have said its 2 track, fire RDs, gravel roads or sandy paths. In fact we won't do it again because it totally lacks single track, which we find is waaaaaaaaaaaaay more fun to ride. And we only ride tandems.

    We're in Houghton and if any of you folks get up this way we'd guide you around our area trails via the fun way to do them. (least our opinion)
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    Coincidentally, I will probably be in town for the first time on other business the weekend of the race, would like to do the 48miler, but really don't want to travel with my bike from the south as it would be a PITA. Plus its SS and I'm thinking I'd want gears for this one to really hammer the flats and downhills. Or gear it up given little climbing? Anyone in the area rent bikes?

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    I think some of the local bike shops do rentals? But I'm not 100%
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    None of the local shops rent mountain bikes it appears after calling around today. Only crusiers... although that would make for an interesting race.

    Anyone willing to rent out a personal steed? I may look at shipping my bike up but hate to have the delay or the expense if not needed. It is unfortunately too big to fit in a standard case.

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    Renting?

    I live right here in "Da U.P. eh!" The Ore to Shore runs within two miles of my home.... I have several mountain bikes and would not mind renting but I'm afraid they might break down....
    Methinks a person is rather reluctant to let someone else use his 500 dollars bike! and there may be a question of liability.... say the front wheel tacos and you break a leg.... who's fault?
    I usually work at the first AID station at the 10 mile mark and there is on average 10 break downs, 5 blood letting injuries, 20 or more dropouts and 80 gallons of H2O and energy drinks consumed.... not to mention lots of oranges!
    We throw more water at the riders then they drink! Their request!

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    I'm probably driving up from southwestern WI to do this. I'll be riding a Redline 29er, a 1 x 9, a 34 up front with an 11-34 in the back. I hope that's sufficient... may switch to a 36 tooth up front. Anyone see an elevation profile with grade on it anywhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOky View Post
    I'm probably driving up from southwestern WI to do this. I'll be riding a Redline 29er, a 1 x 9, a 34 up front with an 11-34 in the back. I hope that's sufficient... may switch to a 36 tooth up front. Anyone see an elevation profile with grade on it anywhere?
    idk what kinda shape you're in, but you'll probably be fine. I run the same setup on my 29 and have never had issues. Hell, I've raced the whole thing on a single speed and it wasn't hard for me at least. There are a few good climbs, but they are mostly on paved roads on Co.Rd. 510. There is one tough hill, kirby's hill which is loose dirt and woodchips right near the end that can be tough, but its rideable provided no one steals or blocks your line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOky View Post
    I'm probably driving up from southwestern WI to do this. I'll be riding a Redline 29er, a 1 x 9, a 34 up front with an 11-34 in the back. I hope that's sufficient... may switch to a 36 tooth up front. Anyone see an elevation profile with grade on it anywhere?
    www.oretoshore.com That will give you access to a down loadable file that has the elevations.... Drops are in the thousand foot range over several miles! I'd upload here but way too big!

    poikaa I'll be at the first aid station, 10.1 miles in....
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    The Soft Rock sounds like a good race for the gf to get her feet wet in also. Thanks for the link, I didn't look closely enough at the pdf file for the course before to see those extra pages. It looks like there is not a lot of big climbing, just rollers. Looks like fun!

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    Anyone want to throw out a few tire recommendations for a FS 29er ?? I've never been but I'm considering the drive from Minneapolis to give it a shot....

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    Any fast rolling tire will do, I will be running Conti race kings front and back, no grip really needed just speed. SB8s woulfd work too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jreinan01 View Post
    Anyone want to throw out a few tire recommendations for a FS 29er ?? I've never been but I'm considering the drive from Minneapolis to give it a shot....
    as said, something with low rolling resistance. I think I'll either be on Geax Segaurros or Maxxis Crossmark's.

    If I take my 26er I'll run my Larsen TT's. Small block 8's wouldn't be a bad choice either. Only difficult issue is gonna be the sand, so I'd run them at a bit lower pressure imo, least I'm going to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jreinan01 View Post
    Anyone want to throw out a few tire recommendations for a FS 29er ?? I've never been but I'm considering the drive from Minneapolis to give it a shot....
    The surfaces on the Ore to Shore is mixed, sand to gravel and even some paved surface. Most of the two track roads are sandy gravel with a few ex rail road grades thrown in. I do not think there is any single track as most of the trails used also double as groomed snowmobile trails in Winter. Not many branches in the face on this race!
    So your choice will be up to you but I would keep in mind of the sand and rocky power line trails....

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    I was considering using Stan's Crow or Raven...any thoughts??

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    More details for the Ore to Shore

    just got off the phone with one of the people from the Ore to Shore....

    I asked about single track and there is a short 100 yard portion of connecting track near the end, so the hard rock and soft rock will transverse this. I also asked about the sand and he said there is lots of it and recommended a wider tire for these portions of the race, no exact brand or style.
    Yes there are areas of private land ownership and these are closed for other than the race. Kind of cuts the route of the hard rock in half! I am not riding this year but hope to do so next year, not to win but just for the ride!
    Not to distract from the Ore to Shore, I was surprised to see several races in the U.P. of Michigan for August and September and September is a mighty fine month to be in "Da U.P. of Michigan" !

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    Any suggestions for some Sunday morning single track? I've seen the maps and read a bit about the Marquette South trails - can anyone give us a brief description of the loops? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcpedaler View Post
    Any suggestions for some Sunday morning single track? I've seen the maps and read a bit about the Marquette South trails - can anyone give us a brief description of the loops? Thanks!
    They are all awesome!

    My personal favorite is the Pioneer loop. There is an initial climb up bensons grade, then some tight twisty single track, followed by a FAST fun flowing decent. The decent on Pioneer is my drug, and my favorite trail, maybe ever. Of course it may be because I know it so well.

    The Blue loop, or Marquette Mountain loop is a blast as well. It's got some steep climbs, a lot of technical root/rock gardens. This trail has it all.

    The Carp river trail is initially a climb that kicks you out near the top of the Ski hill. There are a lot of the Freeride / DH trails all over the mountain you can take down that are a lot of fun. I'm a fan of Fiddlers creek or Bad Medicine. Once you go down there, you can take the aptly named "Gorgeous" trail. It takes you along the rim (literally, only inches to spare sometimes) of the carp river canyon/gorge. Beautiful views.

    The Green/Morgan creek loop is a nice romp through the deep woods. I would personally say this trail is a lot more fun in reverse than it is with its supposed intended direction. Not too technical, and it flows pretty well in some spots.

    There are lots of other off shoots and fun side trails like the golf course trail, or the harlow farms connector. Find a local if you can, they know all the best ways to go, but if you can't the loops are all well marked, and I'm sure you'll have a good time.
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    Thanks for the info, sounds like lots of fun - looking forward to the trip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcpedaler View Post
    Thanks for the info, sounds like lots of fun - looking forward to the trip!
    you might have more fun on your sunday ride than during the race, lol
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    I'm sure both will be fun in their own way.

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    Places to Watch

    My wife and kids are coming and were wondering where might be some spots to watch. i've only did this race once so I don't remember much. I thought we go thru Ishpeming someplace and also a long stretch of road over a bridge. i've looked at the maps on the website but I'm having a hard time figuring out where things are. any help would be appreciated

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    near the final aid station on forestville road is a good spot to watch
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    Quote Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    My wife and kids are coming and were wondering where might be some spots to watch. i've only did this race once so I don't remember much. I thought we go thru Ishpeming someplace and also a long stretch of road over a bridge. i've looked at the maps on the website but I'm having a hard time figuring out where things are. any help would be appreciated
    I was wondering the same thing, makes it a little more tolerable for the significant others if they can see you a few times along the way....

    Anymore advice as to "spectating" this race??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jreinan01 View Post
    I was wondering the same thing, makes it a little more tolerable for the significant others if they can see you a few times along the way....

    Anymore advice as to "spectating" this race??
    Help is always needed at the aid stations and there is a new on at the first crossing of the carp river, also my new posting as it was #1 aid station.... about one mile before it. I'm not even sure of where it is so I have to scout it out a day or two before....
    Maybe on my cheap 29er from Wally World!

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    The Weather Channel keeps showing showers for Saturday darnit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOky View Post
    The Weather Channel keeps showing showers for Saturday darnit!

    It keeps the dust down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nOOky View Post
    The Weather Channel keeps showing showers for Saturday darnit!
    Yeah, looks like its going to rain tomorrow. I wouldn't mind it that much, with the soil being mostly sandy it can make it a little easier to ride if saturated. At least it's not suppose to be 90F, I'l take upper 60s and raining over that any day.

    Quote Originally Posted by nOOky View Post
    I'm probably driving up from southwestern WI to do this. I'll be riding a Redline 29er, a 1 x 9, a 34 up front with an 11-34 in the back. I hope that's sufficient... may switch to a 36 tooth up front. Anyone see an elevation profile with grade on it anywhere?
    I have a 34 and 11-36 1x10. I made the last minute decision yesterday to run a 38t up front for a little better high end. The difference wasn't that noticeable but it will give me an extra mph before I spin out and I didn't really miss the low end. All the steep climbs look like they are less than 100ft vertical so it shouldn't be bad.

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    Ore to Shore

    As I write this the Ore to Shore is still going strong.... my position is done but I shot a small vid of my spot.... No incidents on my watch!

    Ore to Shore 2011 - YouTube

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    Didnt do as well as I wanted to, but it wasn't my fault. I was the 2nd flat in the hard rock race, somehow my tire caught a nail at mile 1, lol. That kinda screwed me for the rest of the race. I caught back up with the pack, but then my chain guide somehow bent and the chain kept jumping off a few times. Somehow I lost my bib/time chip too? Must have got ripped off somewhere. all this stuff Killed my time between that and fighting the traffic at the back of the pack. I still managed a 3 hour 34 min. time for the hardrock even with the failures, so I guess not too bad.

    I may go back to softrock on my SS next year, lol
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    Has anyone seen any galleries posted from photographers? I'm not finding any through a Google search yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious View Post
    Has anyone seen any galleries posted from photographers? I'm not finding any through a Google search yet.
    Being a radio operator at the Ore to Shore does not give me a whole lot of time for pics and video! But here is a link of 2011 JPEGs....

    Ore to Shore 2011 - Images | Unleashed Imagery


    Not my work!

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    It was a fun race. Lotta dust at the start, some waiting on the hills and certain parts for the group. I wasn't in it to win it, I just wanted to have fun and see what it was all about. I set a goal of somewhere between 3 and 4 hours, and finished in 3:10. I'll probably look for a sub 3 hour next year, and bring a different bike. My hardtail 29er with 9 gears wasn't set up the best for the course, but no excuses next year. My back was aching towards the end, I'm a wuss and I need full suspension! I did break my sunglasses, I had them stuck in my shirt and they fell out and got ran over. The guy who ran them over stopped and helped me try to fix them, I was like just go dude lol I got it no biggie.
    The gf did the soft rock, and she did it in like 2:25 so she was happy enough with that, but she's not a racer type. It was her first race, but I think she'll do it again.

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    How do they transport your bikes back to the start area?

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    They transport you via bus back to the start area, they have a staging area for bicycles in a corral when you finish the race if you want.

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    Congrats nOOky! I like your Garmin setup! This faty ol' man may do this next year!

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    Good, Nate Guerra didn't win haha. I'm not sure where my old teacher Mike Naughton went? I saw him pre-registered for the hard rock, but he must not have showed up because he's not in the results... esundell, I was searching in the soft rock for you, but I see you did the hard rock, nice.

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    my buddy and I are signed up for the 2012 O2S .... first race for both of us. Doing the softrock .... any advise for the best place to be for the start?

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    At the start line.

    Sorry, couldnt help it. What do you mean exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by burbskate View Post
    my buddy and I are signed up for the 2012 O2S .... first race for both of us. Doing the softrock .... any advise for the best place to be for the start?
    As close to the prefered start riders as possible. Seriously, traffic is the biggest challenge with this race, not the terrain.
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    Anyone have 29er SS gearing advice fro someone that's never ridden the course? In NC I run 32x20 for everything or 32x18 if I'm feeling great on anything up to 100 mile rides. 32x20 would certainly be too spinny and pretty much anything will be too stout for the few steepest powerline climbs (does anyone NOT walk them)? Will be in town that weekend so may bring the bike with and race the Hard Rock. May also just set it up 1x9 and be done with it.

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    Looking around, seems like the leaders run in the proximity of 36:16, 38:16 or so. Steepest I've read about was 44:17 for a win a few years ago. Doesn't seem altogether human to me.

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    Yup, it's a big mass start. If you're not early to the line, you'll wind up near the back of the pack and will have plenty of time to kiss loved ones goodbye, rearrange the camelback, and maybe scan a newspaper between the time the race starts and you actually start moving. Maybe not quite that bad, but it feels like it. And then you get to try to pass everyone you can before the course gets tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbeardsl View Post
    Anyone have 29er SS gearing advice fro someone that's never ridden the course? In NC I run 32x20 for everything or 32x18 if I'm feeling great on anything up to 100 mile rides. 32x20 would certainly be too spinny and pretty much anything will be too stout for the few steepest powerline climbs (does anyone NOT walk them)? Will be in town that weekend so may bring the bike with and race the Hard Rock. May also just set it up 1x9 and be done with it.
    I'd drop it from 32-20 certainly. Great trail gear, but not a good race gear. If I do it SS this year on my KM, I was thinking about 32-17.
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