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    any DH near detroit?

    I live in Vail CO right now but am contemplating a move to the detroit area (corktown)..... don't ask.............. but in any case is there any lift served DH that is worth anything within a few hours? Boyne's website is pretty lame so i couldn't get much info from it.

    thanks for any and all responses!


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    Lift Service-
    The nearest lift service is Boyne Highlands up in Petoskey. Blue Mtn in Collingwood Ontario is maybe 6 hrs away too. Marquette Mtn. (In the U.P.) is also around the 6-7 hr mark...Snowshoe Mtn & Wisp are both around 8hrs away. Diablo, Plattekill, Whiteface are all around 12hrs from Detroit.

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    Traverse City (My personal favorite place in state to ride) has a perfect combination of freeride and DH, it's probably 5 hours away. The Mohican Wilderness, in Central Ohio is supposed to be prime DH, another 4-5 hours. Also in Central Ohio is a place called "Horn's Hill", I rode there a few weekends back, it's mainly flowey DH with LOTS of jumps. This is about 4-5hrs from Detroit or an hour from Mohican. Then near Grand Rapids, there is the Cannonsburg Freeride Park. Mainly freeride, some DH. I really expect good things to come from C-Burg in the future as it has only exsisted for less than a year and it's pretty decent right now....Plus there is a pretty dedicated group of trailbuilders out there.

    However, like anywhere else we have our local hidden gems. Mainly freeride stuff, but some DH too. There are a few decent DH runs in the Ann Arbor area, but you need to have "connections" to find them.

    Overall, less than 20% of my riding happens in the area. Be prepared to travel!! On the flip side, we have a VERY GOOD scene of riders, great group of guys.....Carpooling on trips usually happens a few weekends per month.

    PM me if you have any other questions, as far as I know I'm the only FR/DHer that is on these forums that lives in SE MI. I live in Ann Arbor.

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    Forgot to ask....Why move to Detroit? From Vail? You're crazy!!
    I've only been living in this area for a year and it sucks! I may have a job lined up elsewhere, I'll keep my fingers crossed....

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    may move because of a girl , you know how that goes...... what scares me is the really bad economy. I urban assault a lot on my dirtjumper and I'm sure Detroit would be sick for that, fairly empty, very urban etc etc. Would have to give up Keystone DH'ing in the summer and tearing up Beaver Creek and Vail in the winter but oh well.....

    appreciate the feedback, was worried I would move there and have to sell the big bike because of no lift serve, I can deal with driving a bit as long as there is some kind of riding

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJC
    may move because of a girl , you know how that goes...... what scares me is the really bad economy. I urban assault a lot on my dirtjumper and I'm sure Detroit would be sick for that, fairly empty, very urban etc etc. Would have to give up Keystone DH'ing in the summer and tearing up Beaver Creek and Vail in the winter but oh well.....

    appreciate the feedback, was worried I would move there and have to sell the big bike because of no lift serve, I can deal with driving a bit as long as there is some kind of riding

    Brian
    Very cool....Ann Arbor has a huge street scene, as do some of the northern 'burbs. Honestly, if you are riding in Detroit city limits, make sure you have a local show you around first....There are some VERY ROUGH areas, trust me!! I worked for a while over there.

    Anyways hit me up if you end up moving. And keep that big bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJC
    may move because of a girl , you know how that goes...... what scares me is the really bad economy. I urban assault a lot on my dirtjumper and I'm sure Detroit would be sick for that, fairly empty, very urban etc etc. Would have to give up Keystone DH'ing in the summer and tearing up Beaver Creek and Vail in the winter but oh well.....

    appreciate the feedback, was worried I would move there and have to sell the big bike because of no lift serve, I can deal with driving a bit as long as there is some kind of riding

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    she better be one hell of a girl. you'll not find me moving back to michigan now that i live in colorado.

    as far as michigan riding compared to colorado...its totally different. i'm curious what buccilli considers DH in the ann arbor area. I didn't live there, but have friends and family that went to school and/or lived there and I don't recall any serious elevation changes in AA.

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    true dat on not selling the big bike, I just bought a new one mid summer. I was looking into it some more and searched youtube for dh'ing at Boyne and found a decent helmet cam vid of a run there, short, but looks kinds cool. Still debating mainly because of the economy, have a very good job here and would hate to take a step back. Was in detroit a few weeks ago and was hanging at some sports bar " cheli's" that over looks Comerica Park and I was just checking it out/thinking about the urban assault potential of that city

    here's a few pics from this past summer at keystone/vail

    Thanks again for the feedback, was even surfing Mt bohemia's website as i read about it in a few ski mags...275 inches a year??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryguy79
    she better be one hell of a girl. you'll not find me moving back to michigan now that i live in colorado.

    as far as michigan riding compared to colorado...its totally different. i'm curious what buccilli considers DH in the ann arbor area. I didn't live there, but have friends and family that went to school and/or lived there and I don't recall any serious elevation changes in AA.

    Think the "mini-gorge" created by the Huron River
    Basically there is one main DH run, noting too tech....Rocky, rooty, a drop, and a few kickers...Probably 30 seconds...Off the main run are numerous shorter runs, these are short and STEEP, rocky, rooty, you commit or else type of runs..

    I've ridden all over the East coast and the U.P. and these A2 trails are no joke, especially considering their location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJC
    true dat on not selling the big bike, I just bought a new one mid summer. I was looking into it some more and searched youtube for dh'ing at Boyne and found a decent helmet cam vid of a run there, short, but looks kinds cool. Still debating mainly because of the economy, have a very good job here and would hate to take a step back. Was in detroit a few weeks ago and was hanging at some sports bar " cheli's" that over looks Comerica Park and I was just checking it out/thinking about the urban assault potential of that city

    here's a few pics from this past summer at keystone/vail

    Thanks again for the feedback, was even surfing Mt bohemia's website as i read about it in a few ski mags...275 inches a year??
    The economy indeed sucks, if possible stay away from the auto industry. Regardless of what people says, there is lot work to be found, just need the motivation to find it.

    Mt. Bohemia is the closest in the midwest to Colorado. It's by no means near the level of Colorado resorts (I've snowboarded at Brek, Keystone, Copper, and Vail), but Bohemia far passes any other midwest resort....But yeah, that 275inches per year is probably accurate, I know the Keweenaw Peninsula hold some kind of snow records.

    Good luck.

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    Moving to Michigan for a girl? Are there no girls in Colorado? I have no idea how old you are, but let me tell you one thing that I have learned in my 40 years... Women are like a City Bus, if you miss one, just wait, another one will be along shortly.

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    I moved from Denver to Detroit a couple months ago. I'm moving the end of November, out of this state. The riding here isn't bad, but when you compare it to Colorado, Michiagn really sucks. Its gloomy, cold and damp in the winter so the idea of riding in the off season doesn't sound appealing, and the summer can be great unless its humid. There's no real epic rides and if you're coming here for DH? forget it. Boyne is a joke compared to Vail, Winterpark and Keystone. Its a joke even to Apex or Green Mountain. Urban riding in Detroit would be alright, a little depressing but alright. As far as the economy the state is hurting, no money coming in and lots of money going out. I wish you luck.

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    all valid points, as I said, I'm considering it, nothing is definate......but to make matters worse i rode Porcupine rim in Moab yesterday ( 3 hours away), it'll be very hard to leave stuff like this behind
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    Moab is a weekend get away. A weekend get away here is still flat and thick with trees. Great pictures, one of my favorite trails.

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    You would leave that to come to Detroit for a girl? I would leave my wife of 21 years to have that in my backyard.

    Unfortunately, my mom says I can't go.

    Let the market decide!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJC
    all valid points, as I said, I'm considering it, nothing is definate......but to make matters worse i rode Porcupine rim in Moab yesterday ( 3 hours away), it'll be very hard to leave stuff like this behind
    Let me asure you that you had more fun in one day on Porcupine than you would have from a years worth of "married sex"

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    Quote Originally Posted by buccilli15
    Think the "mini-gorge" created by the Huron River
    Basically there is one main DH run, noting too tech....Rocky, rooty, a drop, and a few kickers...Probably 30 seconds...Off the main run are numerous shorter runs, these are short and STEEP, rocky, rooty, you commit or else type of runs..

    I've ridden all over the East coast and the U.P. and these A2 trails are no joke, especially considering their location.
    I'm not saying they're a joke. Just so short its hard to consider them real DH considering that the OP is moving from Colorado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJC

    Thanks again for the feedback, was even surfing Mt bohemia's website as i read about it in a few ski mags...275 inches a year??
    Oh dude, I LOVE Bohemia. I've skied a lot out west, A-Basin, Vail, Breck, Beaver Creek, Copper, Jackson, Grand Targhee off the top of my head and I still love Bohemia. Haven't been there in a few years but its big time fun and the most vert you'll find just about anywhere in the midwest. I used to live in Houghton, 45 min south of bohemia. Skipped a lot of classes on powder days...they get a lot.

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    No way!!!

    I'm Detroit transplant to Boulder. I'll never go back unless I get a job that would let me retire within 5-10 years of working (I'm 30) and I'd still have to think hard about it.

    Is the chick some kind of uber millionaire?

    In october the sun goes away and doesn't come back until late march, what I call the "Bar Season", then it gets so humid and buggy ou can barely go outside.

    I do miss the forested trails, but go to BC if thats what you are looking for.

    I repeat - don't do it!

    (Did you do Hazzard Down? We did the Whole Enchilada 2 weeks ago. Snowing at the top and 80 at the bottom)
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    We did do Hazzard down, porc rim rules. Everyone, thanks for all opinions, I am definately aware of what I may be getting myself into. Scary that most everyone I have spoken to has dissed MI, even lifelong residents ( those who would normally champion their hometowns). Still very undecided but hesitant mainly due to the poor economy.

    thanks again

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    Lived almost 4 years out west (Aspen most of the time) and moved back to the D about 5 years ago (for a job, not a girl) and it was tough, but it is not that bad here. There is some great riding all over Michigan even though the DH may be limited. During the summer Boyne Mtn also opens up a chair for DH runs even though their website is mute on the subject. Northern MI is unbelievable during the summer if you like the water. Trading the Mtns for water is not that bad in the summer months, but hurts in the winter. If you are moving back to the metro Detroit area Royal Oak is the place to be.

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    To make matters worse, my folks just came to visit last week (from MI to LV) and said that the State had "shut down"...no money.

    I love the riding in MI, but it does not really compare to the West, in general. The scene is great and there are almost as many enthusiastic riders in MI as there are in CO, but CO has a "biker" mindset so that there are things like bike lanes on nearly every street, no less than three bike shops in every town, etc. You won't find that in MI. The infrastructure is older and hey, it's MO-town. If I had to move back home, I'd move to Ann Arbor or not at all. Even the one thing that made winter bearable-frozen lakes for ice hockey-has disappeared; global warming and all. I do miss the lakes, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    To make matters worse, my folks just came to visit last week (from MI to LV) and said that the State had "shut down"...no money.
    Not quite from what i've read and heard. Some governmental services stopped very shortly, a matter of hours i believe, while the house and governor worked out the budget after it was due. My family still lives there and I've heard nothing since and this happened was several weeks ago.

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    Stay in Colorado, I was origianally from Detroit and don't go. Make the girl come out there she will like it better anyhow. If your all about downhilling and skiing in the winter than dont go. Take up hockey and boating if your going to be in michigan, the skiing sucks sucks sucks compared to out west, there is nothing challenging, Boyne highland or mountain has a freeride park that seems to take all of 30 seconds. Re-evaluate the priorities.

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    I lived in Dearborn for almost 6 years; moved back to Kansas 2 years ago. I miss the great trail systems in SE MI (Island Lake, Pontiac, Pickney, Brighton, etc..). Not much DH to speak of but lots of good XC riding. Definitely be ready to do some driving to get to the trailheads. Check out MMBA.org. Good website. Best of luck on your decision. Now could be a good time to buy a house there if you are planning to spend some time there; I still own a house there (it sat empty for a year trying to sell it). If you go...learn to love gray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Dub
    , the skiing sucks sucks sucks compared to out west, there is nothing challenging,
    I thought mt bohemia had some pretty good skiing, but its been 5 years since i skied there.

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    I've lived in Michigan most of my life and have been planning my escape for a while; the only thing michigan is good for in the more "exciting" realm of sports is kiteboarding--last year I posted 100+ days on the water starting January 12th to December 16th (if you don't mind cold water). I know people who probably have close to 200 days on the water. That being said, we have some pretty solid groups of mt. bikers that really take care of the trails (all XC), but nothing in the realm of what you're used to in Colorado. As far as urban riding goes, Detroit has some really rough areas, I doubt you'll be doing much riding there. The skiing/snowboarding SUCKS!!! unless you go to Marquette (12+ hours from detroit)--I don't even bother trying to pretend it is fun anymore. What sort of work do you do? I would really think twice about leaving CO, the michigan economy never ceases to amaze me with it's ability to get worse, the state is horribly run; there was almost a state shutdown including all of the state parks (and therefore most of the mt. biking places & kiteboarding spots) a few months ago. I go out west twice a year (usually to CO) for climbing/mountaineering/skiing/snowboarding and hopefully will move that way one day. If you have any specific questions about moving to Mi, or if you have already decided and want to know the best way to get into kiteboarding (it's really the only way you're going to be happy), shoot me a PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jstanto5
    If you go...learn to love gray.

    How true that statement is. Exact same color scheme for winter in NE Ohio.
    People wait for me on the way up. I wait for them on the way down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceaxe
    The skiing/snowboarding SUCKS!!! unless you go to Marquette (12+ hours from detroit)
    Marquette is not 12 hours from Detroit unless there's a snowstorm and/or you get stuck with all the idiot weekend warrior snowmobiler traffic. I've done Flint to Marquette in 6 hours in the summer, Flint to Houghton, 100 miles past marquette, in under 8 hours. Flint to downtown Detroit is around an hour and a half. I went to MTU and my grandparents had a cottage in the Keweenaw so I know the drive very well.

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    when you get to Michigan, look us up on www.highgearracing.com Post up on the message board. We are a semi-pro DH team based out of Michigan. We travel 1-2 times a month to real DH destinations. There is very good driving within 9 hours at close to 10 different places.

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    I may get the best of all worlds. As of a couple of days ago, my girls' job is going to transfer her to Denver, ( hell, she's even gonna get a pay raise) I'll be moving there in April from Vail ( 1.5 hrs away). Thanks for all feedback, ( I even showed her this thread) If anyone is coming out to CO this winter or next summer, drop me a PM, I'd be more than happy to be your tour guide at Vail or Beaver Creek for skiing/snowboarding or DH'ing at Keystone

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    Congrats to your SO, and Good Luck to you both.
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    my friend's helmet cam vid's from keystone this summer

    http://www.specializedriders.com/blog/114/post/list

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    Quote Originally Posted by utabintarbo
    You would leave that to come to Detroit for a girl? I would leave my wife of 21 years to have that in my backyard.

    Unfortunately, my mom says I can't go.

    I would pay to see you ride some of that

    s previously said there is not much in the great downhill around here but there is some fun stuff.

    Ask over on MMBA.org.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryguy79
    she better be one hell of a girl. you'll not find me moving back to michigan now that i live in colorado.

    as far as michigan riding compared to colorado...its totally different. i'm curious what buccilli considers DH in the ann arbor area. I didn't live there, but have friends and family that went to school and/or lived there and I don't recall any serious elevation changes in AA.

    Petoskey and Traverse City are @ 325 miles North of Ann Arbor. Western U.P. has tons of great trails amd elevations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detroitman2679
    Petoskey and Traverse City are @ 325 miles North of Ann Arbor. Western U.P. has tons of great trails amd elevations.
    You can't be serious. Thats not in the AA area...I know where those are, spent the first 24 years of my life in Michigan, and 5 of them were up in Houghton. I'm no stranger to what is available in Michigan.

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    I've only driven to Marquette/Houghton in the winter, used to make the trip 2-3 times a year for Snowboarding Skiing. Unfortunately, poor road condtitions and more notabley the absurd snowmobiler traffic are a reliable reality. The only other times I've driven up there have been on long distance ambulance transports during which I am resticted to going well below the speed limit. Regardless, 6 hours is still a long drive when you're used to having some the best in bounds skiing the is planet has to offer is in your back yard.

    I thought this situation was diffused. Why are people still replying to this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceaxe

    I thought this situation was diffused. Why are people still replying to this?
    because its a discussion forum?

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    The Mohican Wilderness, in Central Ohio is supposed to be prime DH
    If you can get down this way, it's worth the trip, Moh is prety gnarly!

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    I can't believe how few of you have an accurate perspective of DOWNTOWN Detroit. The Urban is straight up amazing. Heart Plaza is honestly unreal for trials or any more BMX inspired maneuvers. it is not rough right there. The police regularly patrol. this can be a bummer, but there is really so few people that the cops don't usually bother. But honestly unreal features everywhere, minimal crowding. You can venture outside of heart plaza as well and be just fine. If your not totally lacking street sense at all you will know where not to go. Obviously, you do not want to be cruising around neighborhoods with people standing around at the corner in large ominous groups. stick to campuses and city buildings, museums, etc and you chances of any kind of bad encounter are no greater than any other major city (honestly, probably less likely). I spent a lot of time riding, going to events, and friends houses in that city in the past 8 years and never had anything but a good time and funny conversations with the homeless and insane population.
    I can't say you are going to like the lack of real mountains, but you are going to have to learn it is all about taking trips to your favorite places and you will actually wind up going more places that you hadn't been than ever before If you just budget your time and finances properly.
    I must say, this girl better be worth it. it is kind of a serious downgrade for someone with a serious outdoor lifestyle. It will take more effort, that is for sure.

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    Update: I'm moving to Corktown this summer ( mid july) so if you see someone with a gray Giant STP riding around downtown, it's me. I hope to get the chance to ride with some of you, pontiac , novi tree etc etc

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    Bring a good lock! Looking at the dates for the thread, at least you are not rushing into a decision. Detroit is rough, but it has it's personality. I agree with most here, nothing in MI really compares for DH to the west. You will be amazed at what has the title of 'mountain' in MI. Luckily, there is some fun riding near to the city, and once you escape the tri county area, it's nice and rural.

    Best of luck!

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    I'm also moving back home to Michigan in July most likely, from Park City, UT.

    I'll be honest, I don't want to leave this place; but my wife is already back in Michigan, we're both from there, we both went to college there, yada yada. Sure I won't have the epic riding I do here in Park City, but I can still get on a bike back home and do some XC riding (which is most of what I do here in PC).

    Ann Arbor here I come!

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    the Farm in Novi will have the Relay on July 25th, so hook up with three friends and check it out!

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    2009 Marquette Mountain Bike Park

    I've posted this a couple of other places but I felt it fit in right here too...

    The countdown to opening day for the Marquette Mountain Bike Park has begun. Season passes are on sale, $99 until June 15 and $129 after that. Daily Lift tickets will be $25. Schedule is at www.marquettemountain.com and you can also buy season passes online there. Grand Opening is Friday, June 26th and will double as early Superior Bike Fest Downhill practice. See you out there.
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    Nice thread. I may be moving to the area myself. Left Los Angeles and am currently in Park City, UT. Too many hours on the mountains today -- body is dead! (Good thing, as the town seems to be as well)

    Not positive if I will end up around Detroit, as things are currently fluid. But am really getting back into the XC side of things. (Twin Cities, Quad Cities, and around Des Moines are also considerations at this time)

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    I need to go to Colorado to get in that kind of riding

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJC
    We did do Hazzard down, porc rim rules. Everyone, thanks for all opinions, I am definately aware of what I may be getting myself into. Scary that most everyone I have spoken to has dissed MI, even lifelong residents ( those who would normally champion their hometowns). Still very undecided but hesitant mainly due to the poor economy.

    thanks again
    I grew up in MI, lived there for 25 years, and let me be the first to say, it's one of the best places ever, and it has so much... In the summer. That's the crappy part about it. They're right when they say the sun goes away in October and doesn't come back until March. The winters are awful. Gray, gloomy, very mediocre skiing, and not a whole lot to do but get drunk. I now live in Breckenridge, CO, and the only thing I miss is the water that MI has in the summer. We have water in CO, but it's 50 degrees all summer long, which isn't the best, but when you ad up all the other stuff to do, it's unbeatable. You should really consider having the girl move out to CO. There's plenty of good jobs, and she'll definitely like it better than MI. Just my 2 cents.
    Catalina wine Mixer!

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