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    New Kid on the Block... X-Post....

    Sorry to post this here you Homers....

    Unfortunately I have to retire my Warp. I couldn't get a Spot... But I got THIS

    Now I feel envy of you no more....




    Hehehe... Now I can tease my Homer buddies Elmadaleno and Tigergog. And I have no more excuses to be the last guy in the ride.

    Yeah... it's a Whorest-Link... so what?? Does that make me a poseur or snob??? I hope so!
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    ... and if we just ... Nice rig.

    I had a Switchblade just like that (5", but with a Pushed AVA)- great bike. Geometry-wise, Turners just work out better for me, but I really enjoyed that bike, super versatile and reasonably light too.

    I'm sure you'll love it- congrats!

    Quote Originally Posted by Warp2003
    Sorry to post this here you Homers....

    Unfortunately I have to retire my Warp. I couldn't get a Spot... But I got THIS

    Now I feel envy of you no more....




    Hehehe... Now I can tease my Homer buddies Elmadaleno and Tigergog. And I have no more excuses to be the last guy in the ride.

    Yeah... it's a Whorest-Link... so what?? Does that make me a poseur or snob??? I hope so!
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    Those are some nice riding frames, used to ride one occasionally thru a buddy, enjoy!

    I think our little friend clarified things and stated we were just posers, not snobs, I feel better now I think. BTW, you have to work up to being a poser by hitting a 4-5 footer to flat, untill that time homers are considered a poser wannabe Then, when the big day comes that you become a real MBer by hitting a 10ft drop to tranny(bonus points if you do it at Whistler) then you get welcomed in and you can start thinking about that 20fter

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    I guess it's okay, you know, for a bike made in a 3rd world country. If you like that sort of thing and all.

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    An interupted seat-tube design with bearings and a 5th element shock!!!! Warp...Warp...Warp!!!! Did you learn nothing reading the forums all this time?


    j/k - congrats and enjoy it.
    Nothing to see here.

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    That's a 2003-2004 SB...

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy
    I guess it's okay, you know, for a bike made in a 3rd world country. If you like that sort of thing and all.
    ... made in the 3rd world nation of Arizona.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrod74
    ... made in the 3rd world nation of Arizona.
    ROTFLMAO!!!

    Yeah... it's made out of Worth tubing (does that name sounds familiar?), hand welded in Tempe, AZ.

    It'll be ridden in the 3rd World Nation of Mexico, BTW. I can't avoid buying 3rd World Country stuff everyday. What can I do?
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    Awesome ride, brother! Congrats, that's going to be one hell of a fun ride!

    Now the only reason for you holding the pack up is because you're a slowpoke.

    I do like those old stickers You know, the ones that say "Handmade * USA".

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrod74
    ... made in the 3rd world nation of Arizona.

    Same as every Switchblade ever made. Made in the USA by Americans with USA tubing and USA weld rods. And with welds that look better than SAPA. It's okay Roy, your bike is still cool.

    Nice ride Warp!!! Although, I would replace the shock asap. Are you going to change your name to Switchblade2004? Let see some action shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    An interupted seat-tube design
    Why would you need to move the darn thing??

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    with bearings
    Premium Quality japanese bearings... nothing wrong with them. I love them. My buddy has a RM ESTX with japanese bearings and they had held up nicely for over a year now in all riding conditions.


    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    and a 5th element shock!!!!
    This one I have it in the back of my head actually....



    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Warp...Warp...Warp!!!! Did you learn nothing reading the forums all this time?
    Born stubborn!!!


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    j/k - congrats and enjoy it.
    Thank you all guys.... I'm totally stoked!
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    Yeah Warp! Nice score, man. That's a beauty and you finally get to ride a proper frame! Miles of smiles to ya on your new frame with a new fork! I know what you mean about the first half of the year being hard, I just bought a house and I can't afford any bike parts at all until I get a hefty raise.

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    Even better, it's a non -ICT Whorest Link.

    I've always liked the SB. Enjoy it. And get a real shock when you have the time
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    congrats pal! im stoked for ya! by the way, i always thought the warp was a pretty good bike for the money. i sold em from '99 to '00 and besides bein heavy, they rode just fine. itll be cool to hear yer thoughts after a few rides on the titus though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp2003
    Why would you need to move the darn thing??
    Doh! Looks like you need a Gravity Dropper!!!!!!!!!! That will up your poseur status.
    Nothing to see here.

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    Whoah, nice tire clearance. So, which road tires are you going to run?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Whoah, nice tire clearance. So, which road tires are you going to run?
    Michelin Axial Carbons....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    Whoah, nice tire clearance. So, which road tires are you going to run?
    Speaking of tire clearance - you should see how tight a 2.35 Nevegal is on the 6.6.
    Nothing to see here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Doh! Looks like you need a Gravity Dropper!!!!!!!!!! That will up your poseur status.
    Uh... yeah... that would be ... bling.
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    You could always buy the Freeride lowers from Titus if more clearance needed. Costs around $250 US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuscorn
    congrats pal! im stoked for ya! by the way, i always thought the warp was a pretty good bike for the money. i sold em from '99 to '00 and besides bein heavy, they rode just fine. itll be cool to hear yer thoughts after a few rides on the titus though.
    Well.. yeah... still think the Warp is the only REAL full-susser in it's price range. Too bad Giant didn't gave it a re-make to make it lighter and correct the geometry to accept 130mm forks and a steeper seat angle.

    They decided to dump it and make the Pistol... which is nice and addresses some of the problems the Warp had... but they totally screwed it up by putting a propietary wishbone mount rear shock. I'm still cursing Giant on that.

    The SB is just superior in any regard... I'm anxious to throw a leg over it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    You could always by the Freeride lowers from Titus if more clearance needed. Costs around $250 US.
    Yeah... I'll think of that. It'll be just a trailbike and I don't do jumps or drops that would require a large rear tire.

    I'm on 2.1's now so I don't think I'll be in trouble.... only in the rain season but I'll get a mud-specific and narrower tire for that.

    OTOH, the 5th Element is much of my concern. I've heard horror tales about them.
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    Congrats Warp! Don't let the poseurs kid you you're still family! And I'm not just saying that b/c you're a moderator...
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    ... so cheers!
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    How boring are the other boards that people have to come here to announce new (to them) (non-Turner) bikes??
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    How boring are the other boards that people have to come here to announce new (to them) (non-Turner) bikes??
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    Yea!

    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    How boring are the other boards that people have to come here to announce new (to them) (non-Turner) bikes??

    Pretty pathetic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homebrew
    Same as every Switchblade ever made. Made in the USA by Americans with USA tubing and USA weld rods. And with welds that look better than SAPA.
    I have it on good authority Titus busses in cheap Taiwan child labor and pregnant women to do the welds. Even though everyone knows the Taiwanese can't weld.

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    It's okay Roy, your bike is still cool.
    Which one?

    Don't make me start using smileys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy
    I have it on good authority Titus busses in cheap Taiwan child labor and pregnant women to do the welds. Even though everyone knows the Taiwanese can't weld.


    Which one?

    Don't make me start using smileys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    How boring are the other boards that people have to come here to announce new (to them) (non-Turner) bikes??
    I was thinking the same thing -- you can also add:

    Brakes
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    The list goes on...

    The other boards are boring, its part of the reason why this one is so good. Except of course, for an occasional flame war with the E guys.

    p.s. Nice score Warp!!! I was looking at one of those when I bought the Spot. I would say you've definitely upgraded in the frame dept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp2003
    I'm working on that Cheese!!!
    By making this board boring? Not what I had in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    How boring are the other boards that people have to come here to announce new (to them) (non-Turner) bikes??
    Remember how I said that all of MTBR is more of a subforum of the Turner board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy
    I have it on good authority Titus busses in cheap Taiwan child labor and pregnant women to do the welds. Even though everyone knows the Taiwanese can't weld.


    Which one?

    Don't make me start using smileys.
    No, they just can't make a frame with as much attention to detail as a domestic builder. Even Titus thought USA builds were good enough to put "Handmade USA" on their stickers. I wonder if it was a marketing ploy. I do know that I never hear the reason for Asian outsourcing being "their welders are better than ours". And it's not only the welding, but the handling, jigging, and quality control. By the time the domestic company knows there's something wrong, they might have 400 frames en route, so they must risk scrapping all of them for a huge loss and losing a season or go ahead and sell them.

    Like I said, very few, if any Asian frames are not painted for a very specific reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp2003
    .....OTOH, the 5th Element is much of my concern. I've heard horror tales about them.
    I've heard that the 5th is like a flip coin. You can get a bad one and it's a nightmare, or, if you're lucky, it's a hell of a shock.... I don't know, just try it and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rzozaya1969
    I've heard that the 5th is like a flip coin. You can get a bad one and it's a nightmare, or, if you're lucky, it's a hell of a shock.... I don't know, just try it and see.
    My concern is... what if it blows while I'm trying it out... half joking, half serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rzozaya1969
    Then you're back to square one (shockwise), but with a much better frame.....
    Not actually... I bet there are more people willing to trade a Float for a 5th Air, than trading a Vanilla for a Giant HV.

    I may even sell it off and get a Float. Primitive, but reliable... and Pushable.

    Actually... would you trade it for your RP3 and some coin??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp2003
    My concern is... what if it blows while I'm trying it out... half joking, half serious.
    Then you're back to square one (shockwise), but with a much better frame.....

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    [QUOTE=Jerk_Chicken]No, they just can't make a frame with as much attention to detail as a domestic builder. Even Titus thought USA builds were good enough to put "Handmade USA" on their stickers. I wonder if it was a marketing ploy. QUOTE]
    My '99 Titus Quasimoto had a TitusTi sticker on it which also seemed like a marketing ploy (it being an aluminum frame ). I still miss that bike .

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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    By making this board boring? Not what I had in mind.

    Good thing you'r posts arn't...huh never mind I'l just try a search.

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    Warp: I hope your Horst Link will improve your climbing ability! Oh, and you should try and get a pair of Neuticles for the downhills
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    Quote Originally Posted by elmadaleno
    Warp: I hope your Horst Link will improve your climbing ability! Oh, and you should try and get a pair of Neuticles for the downhills
    Do you see it now???

    With a Whorest-Link bike I should have cleared that climb... on a single pivot is not that easy.

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    Why not?

    There is a fine line between posting opinions and sounding very prejudiced. You are sounding very prejudiced.

    If all bikes made overseas have universally poor welds & alignment compared to USA made bikes, does that also mean that trek and cannondale are as good as turner?

    There is nothing genetic that guarantees better welds or quality control for made in USA frames. Neither welding or quality control are rocket science; Anybody with proper training and experience can do either job. Look at the quantities of bicycles produced overseas and they clearly have an advantage when it comes to practicing their trades.

    If you prefer to buy US-made, good for you, just don't pretend it's some kind of automatic guarantee of higher quality or better design.

    PS, nice bike warp, I owned a SB 2 years ago and loved it! Titus makes great bikes.



    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    No, they just can't make a frame with as much attention to detail as a domestic builder. Even Titus thought USA builds were good enough to put "Handmade USA" on their stickers. I wonder if it was a marketing ploy. I do know that I never hear the reason for Asian outsourcing being "their welders are better than ours". And it's not only the welding, but the handling, jigging, and quality control. By the time the domestic company knows there's something wrong, they might have 400 frames en route, so they must risk scrapping all of them for a huge loss and losing a season or go ahead and sell them.

    Like I said, very few, if any Asian frames are not painted for a very specific reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp2003
    Not actually... I bet there are more people willing to trade a Float for a 5th Air, than trading a Vanilla for a Giant HV.

    I may even sell it off and get a Float. Primitive, but reliable... and Pushable.

    Actually... would you trade it for your RP3 and some coin??
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    Bonking ... not feelin' well Boxxer near your Titus

    Ouch, what happened to your dogs ears?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the last biker
    I owned a SB years ago and I was very happy with this bike , when I had the SB the stable platform shocks they were not available.
    yeah you know, when I owned a switchblade there were three reasons I sold it:
    1. couldn't run stable platform shocks & I felt the SB could use one
    2. interrupted seat post meant I couldn't drop my post as much as I wanted, and
    3. I just wanted a bigger bike as I was getting into FR.
    so now in 2006:
    1. push, fox and 5th element aoll make shocks you can use on the SB
    2. telescoping and gravity dropper posts mean interruputed seatposts are no longer a big deal
    3. I have a turner RFX for FR use and am getting a titus for XC riding!
    Funny how things change!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Speaking of tire clearance - you should see how tight a 2.35 Nevegal is on the 6.6.
    Talkin' 'bout dat...

    will a 2.35 nevegal fit the rear of my spot? I believe it will but I figure that doublechecking is always better.
    How's that up front?
    Most of you elitist prigs run it in the rear but it looks like it could do quite well in the front too. I'm talking of a Stick-E version.
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    The 2.35 neve fits with ease. I have even run a 2.5 Timberwolf (it measures a true 2.6"). The chainstay yoke is a hair over 3" across. The seat stay is wider iirc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    The 2.35 neve fits with ease. I have even run a 2.5 Timberwolf (it measures a true 2.6"). The chainstay yoke is a hair over 3" across. The seat stay is wider iirc.
    Yeah, even on the Burner the tire clearance is superb....
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    havent tried it yet but dt says you can run up to a 2.7 on a spot rear end. my nevegal 2.5's have gobs of clearence.
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    The prob ends up being the chain rubs on the tire in the granny ring. The frame can fit tires which are too wide for the drivetrain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tscheezy
    The prob ends up being the chain rubs on the tire in the granny ring. The frame can fit tires which are too wide for the drivetrain.
    Yeah... happens to me on the Warp too. At 2.28 the rear tire rubs with the chain on the granny. I could use a longer spindle... but that would give me a not so nice Q factor for my frame (I mean myself, not the bike's) and could ruin the chainline (not that it would be perfect anyway).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp2003
    Yeah... happens to me on the Warp too. At 2.28 the rear tire rubs with the chain on the granny. I could use a longer spindle... but that would give me a not so nice Q factor for my frame (I mean myself, not the bike's) and could ruin the chainline (not that it would be perfect anyway).
    Warp,
    What are you going for a record number of posts (by OP) in a single thread or what???? This post is ending up with an awful lot of replies considering its lack of Turner content.

    Nice new frame BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDtofer
    Warp,
    What are you going for a record number of posts (by OP) in a single thread or what???? This post is ending up with an awful lot of replies considering its lack of Turner content.

    Nice new frame BTW.
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    Rene,

    First of all, let me say well done !!!. You won´t regret it !!. It is a great frame.

    Congratulations !!!.

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    Unfortunately I have to retire my Warp. I couldn't get a Spot... But I got THIS

    Now I feel envy of you no more....




    Hehehe... Now I can tease my Homer buddies Elmadaleno and Tigergog. And I have no more excuses to be the last guy in the ride.

    Yeah... it's a Whorest-Link... so what?? Does that make me a poseur or snob??? I hope so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM
    Why not?

    There is a fine line between posting opinions and sounding very prejudiced. You are sounding very prejudiced.
    Yeah I agree, I think it´s an appeal to patriotism more than anything. (Go USA we´re number ! etc....etc... If the bike industry was anything like the US car industry you´d find the quality control in asia would be well ahead. I´m sure you´ll find a lot of US cars now are Jap ones rebadged...

    But yeah, I´d always by a jap car over a US one because I´m not mechanically minded...same for motorbikes. Harlys are made for those who take roadside maintenance as a professional sport. I prefer to ride.

    Luckily the old tredlys (pushys)(bikes) are a bit more simple having no engine.

    From an enginering perspective in my life I found US built things tough (over-enginered which is nice), simple and logically laid out for repair (good idea) ..Brits built em with an access hatch for a component on the otherside of the vehicle for the bit it accessed, e.g. you have to remove an engine to change a spark plug. And Euros make things finely designed and complex, but don´t give any more tolerance than what is was designed for.

    But yeah I think the fact that half the worlds manufacturing comes from China means they are world standard when they want to be..in the high price area. My USA digi design sound system, my USA alesis studio racks are made in China- top quality and I guess cheaper than they would be if built in the US.


    Get the frame you want, and you can afford.

    (Of course I don´t belong here cos I can´t afford anything, but handbuilt anywhere dosen´t mean much to me, I prefer built by robots, they don´t have hang overs, problems with the wife etc to take out on your product)

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