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    Mission impossible

    Mission
    Pick the best ride. Please reply ASAP (option, why , thoughts)

    Time
    24 hrs.

    Ride
    Trail/XC, drops 2-3 feet (60-90 cm)

    First option

    YETI 2012 ASR 5 CARBON ****WHITE
    Condition ***New
    Weight 24.96 lbs / 11.32 kg no pedals
    Price $3699 usd (was $5,500)


    2012 Front Suspension Fork FOX 32 FLOAT 140 RLC w/Kashima 15QR Tapered Fork
    BrakeAvid Elixir X0 Disc Brakeset 160/160
    Cassette SRAM PG-1050 12/36 Cassette
    Chain SRAM PG-1051 Chain
    Cranks Truvativ X0 GXP 2.2 Crankset
    Front Derailleurs SRAM X0 2x10 High Clamp Front Derailleur
    Rear Derailleurs SRAM X0 Rear Derailleur
    Rear Shock 2012 FOX FLOAT RP23 Adaptive Logic w/Kashima Rear Shock
    ShifterSRAM X0 2x10 Trigger Shifters
    WheelsMavic Crossmax ST Wheelset


    Second Option

    YETI 2011 ASR 5 ALLOY *** BLACK
    Condition used
    Weight 27.2 lbs / 12.33 kg no pedals
    Price $2 300 usd (was 3500)

    2011 Front Suspension Fork FOX 32 FLOAT 140 RLC 15QR Tapered Fork
    Brake XT 160/160
    Cassettes SLR
    Chain XT Chain
    Cranks Shimano XT Crankset 44-32-22
    Front Derailleurs Shimano XT
    Rear Derailleurs Shimano XT Rear Derailleur
    Rear Shock 2011 FOX FLOAT RP23 Adaptive Logic
    Shifter Shimano XT Shifters
    DT Swiss X1600 wheelset w/ QR15 front


    EXTRA

    • I like black more than white
    • No 100 % about the carbon but I can live with that
    • Weight is important but I don't want a ***** bike
    • Money is important but I can upgrade is it's necessary ( even I have Crossmax SLR in my actual bike)
    • I want to get the best deal
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    My opinion: 1,399 bucks is a lot just to save 1100 grams (and Kashima is over-rated).

    But the carbon version is a better deal, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackStephen View Post
    My opinion: 1,399 bucks is a lot just to save 1100 grams (and Kashima is over-rated).

    But the carbon version is a better deal, that's for sure.
    Thanks!! man I know the carbon is sweet but I'm a little concern about that I can break it. I mean can be possible where I ride there are some rocks too so I don't know.

    I think the different between XT and X0 is no to much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by twin View Post
    Thanks!! man I know the carbon is sweet but I'm a little concern about that I can break it. I mean can be possible where I ride there are some rocks too so I don't know.

    I think the different between XT and X0 is no to much.

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    I'm not a fan of Yeti, I never had one... so my opinion has no technical basis, however all know they are high quality bikes.

    I think that any model is a good choice, I would choose the carbon fiber with closed eyes.

    regards.
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    I would flip a coin... then ask the same coin if its got a lot more buddies with him.
    Seriously though, if your wallet can handle it, i would go with the CF. I doubt its gonna break and if it does (highly unlikely) I bet costumer service will provide you with a new one.

    theres not a whole lot of weigh savings, but componentwise, X0 is the better option
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    Both are great deals ... If money wasn't a problem, I would get the Carbon version. Maybe, just because of the XO group, but I'm biased here.

    Also I'm a WW and loosing those 2 pounds in that bike will cost you more than those 1100 diference. (

    Don't be afraid of Carbon. If you end up breaking it, You would have break (or at least damage) anything

    And the Carbon one is NEW. that is a big plus for me. Even if the Demo is just been slightly used

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    Don't drink the kool aid just because everyone else is doing it.
    *If* it was me I'd go with the alloy frame, don't get me wrong, I love the plasticity and free forming of CF shapes but sadly I have earned to distrust it: I had a new road CF bike that didn't survived a mild crash (didn't failed there but developed cracks) and in the light of disclosure my MTB has a CF frame (white in colour. nonetheless...) but looking forward to go back to alloy (hopefully a BMC trailfox or a fourstroke) See, CF is only strong in the direction of the fibers and it can take some punishment under the *usual* conditions because it's designed for that but say you are standing still and bike slips from your fingers, falls over to the side and top frame hits a sharp rock edge right in the middle tube, IT can crack the frame, know what I mean?

    Also, do you like to keep your bikes for a long time? Carbon may not have a great resell value over 3-4 yrs old. Anyhow, I believe any of these two fit the bill nicely and are a great choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinerguy View Post
    Don't drink the kool aid just because everyone else is doing it.
    *If* it was me I'd go with the alloy frame, don't get me wrong, I love the plasticity and free forming of CF shapes but sadly I have earned to distrust it: I had a new road CF bike that didn't survived a mild crash (didn't failed there but developed cracks) and in the light of disclosure my MTB has a CF frame (white in colour. nonetheless...) but looking forward to go back to alloy (hopefully a BMC trailfox or a fourstroke) See, CF is only strong in the direction of the fibers and it can take some punishment under the *usual* conditions because it's designed for that but say you are standing still and bike slips from your fingers, falls over to the side and top frame hits a sharp rock edge right in the middle tube, IT can crack the frame, know what I mean?

    Also, do you like to keep your bikes for a long time? Carbon may not have a great resell value over 3-4 yrs old. Anyhow, I believe any of these two fit the bill nicely and are a great choice.
    Thanks !! to everybody. I would like to have the group X0 but my smile finish when the carbon frame start. I read some bad o good experiences about CF. The risck is there a little more than the Alloy. I never have a very bad crash but in this sport you never know. CF is light and nice too. I try to get the XO with alloy but they have only light blue ( no my color)

    We still have 6 hrs. Asi que sus opiniones son importantes y ya veremos que pasa!!!

    y como dice el brozo ...si tienen TV ahi se ven ....

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    I'm with spinerguy. Life is a box of chocolates, you never know when you're gonna brake your frame!

    Take the light blue, paint it black, done!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackStephen View Post
    I'm with spinerguy. Life is a box of chocolates, you never know when you're gonna brake your frame!

    Take the light blue, paint it black, done!.

    hahahah but you right ... one more for alloy

    Question avid 7 or xt brakes? maybe If I get the alloy I will change de brakes but I don't know if the avid 7(2009) are better than the XT (2011)


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    [QUOTE=twin;8641260]hahahah but you right ... one more for alloy

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    Don´t be afraid, aluminum frames also break and over time have metal fatigue ,don´t worry CF frames are very good, beautiful, unique, durable, attractive.....
    go with the beauty and performance of carbon fiber frames .

    the last biker

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    [QUOTE=the last biker;8641488]
    Quote Originally Posted by twin View Post
    hahahah but you right ... one more for alloy

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    Don´t be afraid, aluminum frames also break and over time have metal fatigue ,don´t worry CF frames are very good, beautiful, unique, durable, attractive.....
    go with the beauty and performance of carbon fiber frames .

    the last biker

    Gracias last ....Espero tomar la mejor decision ..quien sabe a lo mejor con los nuevos modelos del 2012 se encuentra algo mas tentados ...Ibis, santacruz tambien me gustan ...de hecho hasta he pensado en full suspention NINER ......ya veremos jajaja

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    Black is always faster!!!
    On the brakes, it's a no brainer, go XT. Take a look at the Brake Time subforum to check Avid threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doccoraje View Post
    Black is always faster!!!
    On the brakes, it's a no brainer, go XT. Take a look at the Brake Time subforum to check Avid threads.
    I have the avid and are Ok, a lot of noise.. lighter??? XT or avid 7

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    Quote Originally Posted by twin View Post
    I have the avid and are Ok, a lot of noise.. lighter??? XT or avid 7
    Thats the main complaint, turkey gobbler noise.
    Lighter ... XT, even lighter Magura MT8 or Formula R1.
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    Yo me compraría la de carbón con los ojos cerrados. Sin embargo, por esa cantidad, yo me compraría una Mojo (desde luego que mi opinión no es muy objetiva, pues tengo una Mojo ja ja).

    Saludos

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    no vale, tienes que sugerir la yeti, o alguna otra. no seas subjetivo jeje.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Marco View Post
    Yo me compraría la de carbón con los ojos cerrados. Sin embargo, por esa cantidad, yo me compraría una Mojo (desde luego que mi opinión no es muy objetiva, pues tengo una Mojo ja ja).

    Saludos
    jajaj Yo se que tienes una mojo, pero la mojo necesita 140 y yo creo que esto es mucho para el terreno que uso. Ademas soy un gran ususario de los botes de agua, cuando ando me voy a lugares cerca ( tengo suerte de vivir de los lugares mas cotizados de por aqui) y solo ando por dos horas y con un bote de agua la hago. Tu sabes que la ibis pues no tiene lugar para el bote ( lo tiene abajo pero mmmmmm se ve raro ahi) no te creas la tentacion de la ibis tambien es grande jajaj sobre todo la blanca ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by twin View Post
    .. pero la mojo necesita 140 y yo creo que esto es mucho paraa el terreno que uso. Ademas soy un gran ususario de los botes de agua, cuando ando me voy a lugares cerca ( tengo suerte de vivir de los lugares mas cotizados de por aqui) y solo ando por dos horas y con un bote de agua la hago. Tu sabes que la ibis pues no tiene lugar para el bote ( lo tiene abajo pero mmmmmm se ve raro ahi) no te creas la tentacion de la ibis tambien es grande jajaj sobre todo la blanca ...

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    DOS COMENTARIOS :

    Aún con 140 mm la Mojo SL se maneja y se desempeña mejor que muchas dobles con 100 o 120 de recorrido , en la Mojo tu utilizas lo que tu necesitas depende del terreno , si el terreno está dificil usas mas recorrido si esta plano ni se mueve la suspensión .

    Respecto a los porta anforas , ese no es ningún problema , hay diversas alternativas que funcionan excelentemente y sin complicaciones :

    Ejemplos :

    ADAPTER - News 2011 - SKS Germany

    http://www.kingcage.com/assets/img/handymount.gif

    Rixen & Kaul - KLICKfix Bottle KLICK

    Fotos :

    saludos
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    Quote Originally Posted by the last biker View Post
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    DOS COMENTARIOS :

    Aún con 140 mm la Mojo SL se maneja y se desempeña mejor que muchas dobles con 100 o 120 de recorrido , en la Mojo tu utilizas lo que tu necesitas depende del terreno , si el terreno está dificil usas mas recorrido si esta plano ni se mueve la suspensión .

    Respecto a los porta anforas , ese no es ningún problema , hay diversas alternativas que funcionan excelentemente y sin complicaciones :

    Ejemplos :

    ADAPTER - News 2011 - SKS Germany

    http://www.kingcage.com/assets/img/handymount.gif

    Rixen & Kaul - KLICKfix Bottle KLICK

    Fotos :

    saludos
    the last biker
    I know!!!

    No creas que no pieso en otras bicis, me gusta la Ibis sl y tambien se que tienen un performance muy bueno gracias a su tecnologia como tambien las Pivot, pero por algun motivo me gustan las Yeti y tambien han tenido muy buenas criticas.

    Quien sabe a lo mejor next year ..jajajajja

    BTW que padre esta la ibis es tuya????....

    de hecho vi esta en ebay Ibis sl 25 libras wow ...el precio no tan malo ...

    Ibis Mojo SL, Small, Matte Black, Complete Bike, Tasteful Build | eBay

    Sino es por falta de credibilidad es por falta de dinero jajajajaj

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    [QUOTE=twin;8645083] pero por algun motivo me gustan las Yeti y tambien han tenido muy buenas criticas.

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    Tons cómprate la Yeti......

    saludos
    the last biker

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    La Yeti ASR5 alloy esta en camino. Proximamente pondre las fotos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twin View Post
    La Yeti ASR5 alloy esta en camino. Proximamente pondre las fotos.
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    Felicidades .

    Sin embargo para mí el " best deal " que querías conseguir y que mencionabas en el post inicial era la primera opción de bici , la YETI 2012 ASR 5 CARBON ****WHIT Condition ***New

    Por solo 1399 dólares mas tenías en primer lugar BICI NUEVA (importante )
    Modelo 2012 (muy importante )
    Frame mas cotizado .
    Mejor horquilla.
    Mejor shock.
    Mejor grupo.
    Mejores ruedas , y todo lo anterior por tan solo por 1399 dólaritos mas ........

    Por otro lado el "best deal " visto en forma financiera se lo lleva de calle la bici 2012 de CF . me explico , respecto al precio base ambas bicis tienen mas o menos el mismo porcentaje de descuento entre 32% y 34 %

    Sin embargo hablando de porcentajes de descuento similares NO ES LO MISMO un descuento similar aplicado a un producto 2011 usado que ya va de salida a un PRODUCTO 2012 NUEVO que apenas llega ,por el dinero invertido y la relación ( precio /modelo/condición /descuento ) es mucho mejor compra la bici 2012 sin duda .

    Pero como dicen por aquí , Pos ya qué ...

    saludos
    the last biker
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    Quote Originally Posted by the last biker View Post
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    Respecto a los porta anforas , ese no es ningún problema , hay diversas alternativas que funcionan excelentemente y sin complicaciones :

    Ejemplos :

    ADAPTER - News 2011 - SKS Germany

    http://www.kingcage.com/assets/img/handymount.gif

    Rixen & Kaul - KLICKfix Bottle KLICK
    Yo tengo el King Cage ... lo empeze a usar para las salidas de noche, porque tengo una bateria vieja de las que eran de anforas. Funciona muy bien, el aditamento, la bateria es mas o menos igual de pesada que una anfora llena. Como las salidas eran cortas (1 hora) y por la flojera de cargar con Camel. Y como mi Bici solo tiene espacio para un cage. Pues esta era la solucion.

    Aunque ya la deje de usar, porque se me hace medio peligroson, pero de que es funcional si lo es, no se mueve nada.


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    Quote Originally Posted by the last biker View Post
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    Felicidades .

    Sin embargo para mí el " best deal " que querías conseguir y que mencionabas en el post inicial era la primera opción de bici , la YETI 2012 ASR 5 CARBON ****WHIT Condition ***New

    Por solo 1399 dólares mas tenías en primer lugar BICI NUEVA (importante )
    Modelo 2012 (muy importante )
    Frame mas cotizado .
    Mejor horquilla.
    Mejor shock.
    Mejor grupo.
    Mejores ruedas , y todo lo anterior por tan solo por 1399 dólaritos mas ........

    Por otro lado el "best deal " visto en forma financiera se lo lleva de calle la bici 2012 de CF . me explico , respecto al precio base ambas bicis tienen mas o menos el mismo porcentaje de descuento entre 32% y 34 %

    Sin embargo hablando de porcentajes de descuento similares NO ES LO MISMO un descuento similar aplicado a un producto 2011 usado que ya va de salida a un PRODUCTO 2012 NUEVO que apenas llega ,por el dinero invertido y la relación ( precio /modelo/condición /descuento ) es mucho mejor compra la bici 2012 sin duda .

    Pero como dicen por aquí , Pos ya qué ...

    saludos
    the last biker
    Y como tambien se dice por alla, " Me hubieras dicho antes" jajajaja

    No creas no fue un desicion facil y no solo es 1399 dolaritos es 3699 dolares el total de la bici y en momentos de locura digo " va con tal que tanto es tantito ..."

    En fin mi querido last ...Cuando comenze este deporte/locura/adiccion por el ciclomontanismo (como dices ustedes) mi primer bici costo 250 USD y me dije " Es mucha lana por una bici y yo creo que no me vuelvo a comprar otra" ......ahora la Yeti es la sexta desde el 2006 ...y creo/espero que no va a hacer la ultima .....

    Gracias por tus comentarios ...y quien sabe!... si me gusta como se siente la Yeti ...bueno la navidad esta cerca jajaj

    Saludos

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