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    Idea! Mexico Gathering... Let's get it organized

    My dear countryfolks!

    Let's start arranging a Mexico Gathering. If you take a look at the Passion board on the extreme right and check the threads, you'll see that a gathering is kind of a very well organized event.

    1.- In our first year, we don't plan going big
    2.- Not because of that, we're not going to make a good organization.


    So, let's get the organization for this gathering started.

    I'd love you to post your ideas regarding:

    - Dates. We had tought of Semana Santa, but I'd love you opinion.
    - Duration. One day, one week, like a Oaxaqueño party, etc.
    - Location. Depending on duration, it's gotta have a place to stay or camp.


    Also... once organized we'd have to figure it out how to make more people to come down. Either from the US and more importantly, from inside Mexico. We have to invite known clubs as Xinte, just to give an example.

    And if you know from someone who'd like to sponsorize a small event (small stuff like t-shirts, a meal, whatever) that would add interest and would make it shine a bit.

    Please reply to this post. There are not stupid proposals. Only crazy ones... and all of us are a bit of crazy, so all ideas are welcome.

    Thanks Paisanos!
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    Quote Originally Posted by the last biker
    I am agree with your excellent idea.

    I can to get a Sponsor for some gifts , t-shirts , cups, hats or something like that and maybe , repeat maybe one big mountain bike component for a lottery between Us .

    When I say Us ,is for the bikers members of this forum.

    Regards.

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    Cool!! Any suggestions on location and stuff???

    Maybe should we make it along the Popobike??
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    I would like to get a sponsor.

    I am agree with your excellent idea.

    I can to get a Sponsor for some gifts , t-shirts , cups, hats or something like that and maybe , repeat maybe one big mountain bike component for a lottery between Us .

    When I say Us ,is for the bikers members of this forum.

    Regards.

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    I agree on a gathering. While semana santa sound like a good time because most of us have some days off, I've found out that many people leave the city for the same reason, so it may be better to find another weekend, but let's see what other people say about this.

    Other, let's decide early-on on a place for the gathering. It will make it easier for planning it afterwards, because there may be some logistic involved depending on what we want to do. While we may decide on an exotic site (like "El Chico"), getting all the people to the gathering may be a problem, since not everybody has a car. I would propose either Chiluca or Ajusco, since both places are accesible by public transportation, I think.

    Having shirts or jerseys sound awesome. I don't know anyone in the clothes business, but maybe someone else does.

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    Good job! The gathering is a very nice idea !!.

    Hi everybody,

    The gathering is an excellent idea. I will definitively attend. These are my suggestions:

    - Dates. Any weekend after winter.
    - Duration. The whole weekend.
    - Location. Any place in Ajusco. San Nicolas Totolapan can be a good choice.


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    Hi All

    Dear Mexican MTBikers,

    Glad to know that you are planning to be organized.

    Please count with Xinte Mountain Bike Club for anything that you need.

    Best Regards,

    Lalo.

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    Why must the gathering be near Mexico city?

    I am from Sinaloa and i dont mind traveling to a gathering if its long enough and its going to take place in a place with tons of riding.
    Take as an example Chihuahua, there`s the train that is worth the icket by itself .... then the mine trails, even a the epic ride that Hans Rey recently rode that has been riden by many others since and they speak wonders on it.
    So there are miles for even an entire week of riding.
    Im not trying to interfier with where the gathering will take place i believe it should b e up to the group but think outside the bun and look for a nice place with lots of riding ANYWHERE in the country.

    Another thing if you want to invite US riders remember that semana santa and spring break aren`t on the same dates and they wont have time off.
    Lesson of the month: Don`t run of a cliff on your Mountain Bike. It`s quite painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xinte Mountain Bike Club
    Dear Mexican MTBikers,

    Glad to know that you are planning to be organized.

    Please count with Xinte Mountain Bike Club for anything that you need.

    Best Regards,

    Lalo.

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    Lalo!! I'm glad you guys be here and share the tons of knowledge in all areas of MTB from Trail Maintenance to Organization!

    I guess the first thing we could ask is participants. You guys lead a big crowd. It'll be good to count on you.

    BTW... Some of us will be attending the ride you guys have on Jan-15th. I'll be glad to meet you in person.

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    Thanks Rene !!

    Dear Rene:

    Thank you and be sure that this project will work. Thanks for the comments about Xinte in this and other messages.

    I believe that the time for the mexican community of mountain bikers to be organized has come. As you know IMBA is considering Mexico as a target to install an office with representation like in Canada.

    Of course they have to analyse how the mountain biking in Mexico is growing. We have stretch contact and communication with the people at IMBA and one of our goals is to have a visit now in 2006. Of course this forum will help.

    Please send me your phone numbers to xinte@xinte.com in order to make personal contact.

    Ahh, one question: Why does the forum has to be in english ?

    Best Regards,

    Lalo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp2003
    Lalo!! I'm glad you guys be here and share the tons of knowledge in all areas of MTB from Trail Maintenance to Organization!

    I guess the first thing we could ask is participants. You guys lead a big crowd. It'll be good to count on you.

    BTW... Some of us will be attending the ride you guys have on Jan-15th. I'll be glad to meet you in person.

    Rene

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xinte Mountain Bike Club
    Ahh, one question: Why does the forum has to be in english ?
    I'll send you my numbers...

    As for your question.... it's a bit complicated but here I go.

    Firstly, this forum is hosted in the US. Is part of MTBR.com and it's based in the US. They were kind enough to share their space with us to share our stuff with people from all over the world.

    This ensures that we can give exposure to mtb in Mexico. I'm sure you know how many people from outside Mexico wants to come to ride down here. It also serves to de-mithify some bad histories about our country. You know there are and some hold a bit of truth, some are just exagerations.

    On the other hand.... I'm kind of sad because it being in english limits the access to people from Mexico, which is very sad indeed. This site could really lift-off like a rocket if we could get spanish content in because the MTB scene in our country is much stronger than we imagine.

    I guess we have to walk a mile in someone else's shoes... Let's say there would be forums for Russia, to give an example. Would you feel comfortable visiting a page in Russian?? I think we'd look at the pics and would try to understand some words... but we would never get what's going on! You'd be clueless if you were trying to go to live and ride in Russia or to have a MTB vacation there.

    Additionally... we already had problems with one xenophobe guy who was whining because we posted Mexico stuff on the passion board. He was arguing about us invading California and now these boards.... we don't want that kind of fights, exposure or feelings.

    Let's get it started, let's gain momentum and if the forum grows up maybe we could make a sub-forum or something alike in Spanish. I'd really love to. Believe me my heart is put there and I'd like more people from Mexico would enjoy this forum.

    I wish also, there could be a similar board in Mexico. I saw the one from some downhill group which is very good, has lots of activity and has a similar format. It would be good to have such thing but for all kind of MTB, not only DH/FR... it takes money and resources, though.

    Thanks for asking Lalo... This is an issue that's really making me loose some sleep. I hope everybody understand the reasons behind it. It's not discrimination or "malinchismo". It's not something I pulled out of a hat.

    Again, thanks for your understanding.
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    need some help?

    As for the gathering... you can count with me, but more important, if you need an extra hand you with the logistics (searching info, calling people, anyways, doing whatever is needed to be done); I‘d be more than happy to help you. It’s been a long time wanting to see a more organized Mexican MTB community; this looks like an awesome start. Let me know how can I help you pulling this thing together (and by “you” I meant all the guys in the Mexican forum). I’d love to be part of the project.

    Cheers, and hope to meet you all in person soon.


    D.

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    ... and if we just ... count whit me!

    Tocayo y amigos de este forum como comenta Diego es importante el apoyo para organizar un evento, llamar y checar presupuestos, contactar gente hasta la logistica del grupo... creo que no habra mucho problema si contamos con la ayuda del Club Xinte cuenten conmigo para cualquier cosa que necesiten, de logistica o cualquier otra cosa.. hasta ir por los refrescos!


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    Hi, It would be great having a gathering!

    -Dates: While Semana Santa sounds good I also think that people prefer to have those days with their families.
    -Duration: A weekend sounds nice, and since it's the first one I think it would be easier to organize something that long.
    -Location: El Chico sounds good, even without lots of cars maybe something can be done get people there... Nevado to Valle and Valle de Bravo surroundigs could be nice also, anywhere where The Organizers feel confident enough to arrange such event!

    I volunteer also myself, while I don't have a car I'm sure that there are other things in which I could help!

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    Ok, I just want to chime in on a few personal pointers.

    I think we must not think too big for the first gathering. Since it is the first one, we don't know on all the different issues that may show up.

    So, I think we should thing something for a single day duration, or two at the most. While having a week-long vacation is tempting, not everybody has that amount of time. I can't be off for a week, and I think I'm not the only one.

    Another thing that comes to my mind is that sadly we cannot put something where everybody can join up, either for geographical reasons (they live too far), dates, etc.. We have to accept some compromises on this. But this doesn't mean that the gathering would end up with warp, tiger and me riding, but the most members that can come up.

    I think that "El Chico" has come up on other post and this one. If we would like to make this the gathering place, we must come up with how many have cars and how many people and bikes they can bring up with. I can carry two people and another bike (besides myself and my bike). If we don't get as many cars as we need, we may consider renting a VAN or something.

    This can be considered a single-day trip. We can met at Insurgentes or Reforma at 6:00 or 7:00, it may take us 2 hours to get there, we can ride and rest for 4 hours and be back in the late-afternoon. Maybe tiring, but satisfying.

    On a date, probably late february or early march, we just have to be sure "semana santa" doesn't come in the way.

    It would also be a nice-to-have if we could have some MTBR jerseys or windbreakers for the meeting. Anyone knows where we could order them? I think Gregg could help us with the design they're using for 2006.

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    How about do it during the Popobike??

    It's a large event that has (bike related) activities all weekend long and people can assist either day they choose. There's some big caliber pro's coming down, the race is supercool and the amounts of participants is huge.

    It's held on October which give all of us plenty of time to plan ahead. It's a big show up for the mexican bike industry and it collects the real spirit of mtb... any bike can take you where you want. There will be people there racing with bikes we wouldn't take for a spin around the block (being some of us such bike-hor's, I'm on of the guilty ones).

    There are camping facilities too and the weather is just perfect.

    Best thing is that if only three or four of us make it there, there will still be lots to tell about.

    We're at the reach of a probable sponsor too, 'the last biker' has mentioned he could probably get a sponsor and being him located at Puebla, with the Popobike he would kill two birds from a single shot....

    Just my thoughts, please discuss....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp2003
    How about do it during the Popobike??
    I think it's too far off. And too impersonal. It's not that I want to keep it 'mtbr only', but I think that we should try to make it 'mtbr mostly'. That's just me.

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    I concur on your thoughts of keeping it small, maybe a day or at the most two days would be best for the first time.
    While riding El Chico would be nice, for a one day ride maybe it could be somewhat hard, especially on the ones that drive, this may not be an issue with the van option. Early March sounds fine with the reservation of avoyding the "semana santa".
    I really don't know too many places around here (where it seems the most of the riders have reported) only local places near Toluca but those would also involve the same logistic problems as El Chico.
    Maybe we could start by cheking would be willing to assist and from where, also the number of cars and bikes as you already have stated and with that a suitable place could be chosen. I like the idea of the MTBR jerseys or windbreakers.

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    I'm of the same thoughts in this; although it would be nice having some sort of presence on the big biking events!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp2003
    How about do it during the Popobike??

    It's a large event that has (bike related) activities all weekend long and people can assist either day they choose. There's some big caliber pro's coming down, the race is supercool and the amounts of participants is huge.

    It's held on October which give all of us plenty of time to plan ahead. It's a big show up for the mexican bike industry and it collects the real spirit of mtb... any bike can take you where you want. There will be people there racing with bikes we wouldn't take for a spin around the block (being some of us such bike-hor's, I'm on of the guilty ones).

    There are camping facilities too and the weather is just perfect.

    Best thing is that if only three or four of us make it there, there will still be lots to tell about.

    We're at the reach of a probable sponsor too, 'the last biker' has mentioned he could probably get a sponsor and being him located at Puebla, with the Popobike he would kill two birds from a single shot....

    Just my thoughts, please discuss....
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    thanks! I was hoping for a bus or something that we could rent. Last Biker, thanks for the offer. As you say, duration is a big issue, I think. Maybe the most we could expect is a saturday and sunday, what does everybody says? Maybe for some who are married with children will find that even harder.

    Here is the compromise, not everybody here (in Mtbr) is from chilangolandia, so for some a single day riding wouldn't justify a trip to Mexico City. For a place that would take us for more days, some people just won't be able because work or school.

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    Maybe is time to make some decisions

    Hi all two-wheeled addicts

    Looks like, thanks to Last_Biker, transportation might not be an issue after all; we have to start making some decisions if we want this thing to work up, though.
    I think is time to define a date and a place to do the gathering; once we have that one solve we can start looking into the logistics, jerseys, accommodations (if any) and other issues.

    My proposal:
    1) Based on past comments, let´s narrow the choices to three potential places, and two potential dates. I‘d suggest one week before and one after of Semana Santa; dunno the dates of Semana Santa ,though, maybe someone can help me with this info.
    2) Based on those places and dates, find out who can make it and choose a date and a place based on a “most attendance” criteria. (we could fill some kind of scorecard to find out people’s preferences)

    i.e. (based on the narrowed options)

    Name:
    Preferred place: (not filled if can´t make it)
    Preferred date: (not filled if can´t make it)
    No. of days availability:
    Alternative place: (not filled if can´t make it)
    Alternative date: (not filled if can´t make it)
    No. of days availability:

    3) Notify everybody about the decision and start looking into logistics and some volunteers if needed (depending on the attendance and kinda trip)

    Yup, I know what you are thinking – not everybody's gonna to be able to make it; however I really don´t think we can satisfy everybody’s interests and time schedules. We have to make some sacrifices and compromises. The way I see it, with this and almost everything in life, we have to make happen the first event and then we can plan further events.
    It might looks March is far away from today, but if we don´t define some things from the beginning we´ll probably end up doing nothing.

    Of course this is just my opinion and proposal on how to start planning the gathering, I am not trying to impose anything. Does anybody like this idea?

    This is it for now, hope we can make the gathering happen.

    Cheers and sweet rides.

    D.

    PS, forgot to ask, anybody up for the year’s last ride on Saturday?

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    Hey, I think we should get this moving!

    I really thought about where we could do it. Let's do it a one-day gathering on a sunday.

    While I would love it to be El Chico or San Francisco-Valle de Bravo (both great rides), I think we should try to make it to a place we could get easier. I would propose either Ajusco SNT or Chiluca. We could use this gathering as a meet everybody (or most) and see how we ride as a team. For the next gathering, I would push to El Chico or Valle if we feel we're up to a similar level.

    El Chico is a great place, it really has about 8-9 km of downhill singletrack with amazing views. The climb back is a real b!tch for about 10-12 km through fireroads, but the singletrack makes it worth paying.

    San Francisco-Valle is easier to ride, but it's a longer ride, the technical or hard trails are shorter, but the ride is around 40 km. From San Francisco we climb about 7 km, then it's mostly downhill, plains through some amazing valleys, lakes, and almost at the end there's a 2 km uphill section. The thing is that there is a section that's kind of a maze, and I don't want to get lost here. Maybe if someone else has done this ride, we could do as guides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rzozaya1969
    Hey, I think we should get this moving!

    I really thought about where we could do it. Let's do it a one-day gathering on a sunday.
    I like your thinking here. Let's not get too carried away, too soon. I think a lot of us could make a Sunday, pretty much any time. I'll defer to those who know the trails on where to do it. I'm up for anywhere. Let's definitely look at getting a bus organised from D.F.

    I know this is being a little D.F. biased on planning right now, but we seem to have a fair number of us based here.

    We can put together something bigger for later, let's make this a meet-and-greet. Maybe if people are going to come from further, there could be a smaller Saturday ride too.

    I think a big weekend with camping, BBQ, etc. would be great for a little later. This one could happen pretty soon, don't you think? We can still make it a big day out, with food and chelas etc.

    I also think that we shouldn't make it around Popobike. Let's all just go to that anyway!

    I also am in the very, very early stages of planning something of more epic proportions (I'll start a new thread for this soon. It'll be more than a weekend, and will need to be set up well in advance. Oh, and it won't be anywhere near D.F!)

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    Okay....

    We have that we'll have a mini-gathering (just to start), in a very close to DF location. Something for all of us to meet each other.

    A bus would come in handy anyway as not all of us have transportation.

    Let's just define date and place. Chelas and something else would be a nice plus.

    Chiluca is nice. It has all kind of advantages, except for a place to hang-around at the end of the ride. Of course, the ride can be arranged so we hit Espiritu Santo almost at the end of the ride, but you still have to ride some after having some chelas.

    As for dates... I'm all ears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp2003
    Okay....

    We have that we'll have a mini-gathering (just to start), in a very close to DF location. Something for all of us to meet each other.

    A bus would come in handy anyway as not all of us have transportation.

    Let's just define date and place. Chelas and something else would be a nice plus.

    Chiluca is nice. It has all kind of advantages, except for a place to hang-around at the end of the ride. Of course, the ride can be arranged so we hit Espiritu Santo almost at the end of the ride, but you still have to ride some after having some chelas.

    As for dates... I'm all ears.
    If you want after-ride hang, probably SNT has a nicer sites. Almost at the trailhead there is a Quesadillas place that overlooks the 4X course, and there's a restaurant at the parking lot in which the owner-manager is also a bike freak.

    Let's do it early march.

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