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    Discovery - the easy way

    Great ride today in Chiluca. Many of the usual suspects were missing for various reasons. Warp2003 is under house arrest or something, Aids had a problema tecnico and bailed at the last minute, even the ever present Rocky_Rene was, err, well, not present. So today's riders were yours truly, Rzozaya, Lorena (who was renamed Monica Seles during the ride), Ken and of course Oscar the Human GPS doing exactly what has earned him that name.

    It looked like a beautiful english summer day this morning (overcast with a threat of rain). At the trailhead it was cooler than usual, but the ride to the singletrack warmed us up. I thought it might be tough going after spending last weekend below sea-level subsisting on the finest creole and cajun delicacies, but I was pleasantly surprised with my condition.

    We decided to take the Moabito ride route to join tierra roja (don't know the name of the trail), and it was much easier this time without other riders somersaulting into us! We took the usual route to Espiritu Santo and stopped to help a rider whose crank bolt was loose. Nobody had a big enough allen wrench, but the Human GPS did his best McGuyver impersonation and torqued it down with a pair of pliers. Soon after this (or before, my memory's not what it was) we were treated to the very rare site of Oscar reclining in the middle of the trail. Ken thought this looked fun and decided to follow suit soon after! I'm glad to say I managed to avoid this new fashion trend today.

    I've decided to rename the concrete climb to Espiritu Santo "Fillmore Street", because it reminds me of the stretch in San Francisco which separates the men from the boys during the San Francisco Grand Prix bike race. The worst part is the turn just before the concrete ends. I was hurting in places I didn't realise I had after that one.

    The bonus for all this pain was that quesadillas were back on the menu at the tienda today. We deliberated on whether or not to do Discovery and decided what the hell! Just before La Luna, some locals were blocking the moabito route with barbed wire. They asked us not to ride here again. It seems our good friends the moto riders have funked this up for all the responsible mtb riders. Cheers guys!

    Discovery was awesome! I love that trail so much. I led the way and it seemed much easier than the first time I'd ridden it. Only put a foot down once. It's such a great combination of technical chutes and flowy swoopiness. Ken obviously loved it and said he'd gladly pay to ride that trail. Oh yeah, then we saw some of the @ss clowns who've p!ssed on our fireworks, spinning their tyres and tearing things up. again!

    Oscar had a little trick up his sleeve and showed us that you don't have to do the "legbreaker", and can in fact ride out of there on a dirt road! So much easier. Made the rest of the ride much easier.

    The descent to the spring was a lot of fun. I wish Aids had been there to try his bridge crossing today. The climb out to Tierra Roja is apparently rideable. I seem to vaguely remember crawling up it on the Moabito ride! The sun came out on Tierra Roja for a while and Ken and I kept what seemed like a good pace so he could get home early, only to have our doors blown off by some guys in team Audi lycra steaming up there like it was a descent. Bike porn moment of the day for me - one of these dudes was on a dayglo citrus oldskool Klein Adroit. Nice.

    All in all, a great day. The rain held off, the temperature was perfect, the company was great, the trails were awesome, the candlelight was just right, and the wine was terrific.

    Pics in next post. tigerdog out.

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    Nice pics Tigerdog!
    I wish be there but I´m tired and sick... X_X and I prefer wait for until next weekend...


    Thanks por relate and pics!


    Sorry my poor english

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    Say it isn't so!!!!

    You mean I lost the last ride over the Discovery??!!!

    Man, that's bad news... I wish I could have the phone number of the owner and beg for them to let us pass...

    Another course of action (which I don't like as we all have the right to do what we like the most) is to confront somehow the motorbikes.

    Definitively we need to dedicate some time of our week to activatea again this trail.... its loss is a HUGE one.

    We also lost "La Sangrienta" thanks to bikers. More and more trails are being "machined down" to make them more car accessible.

    We're maybe riding the last days of Chiluca... or maybe we're jus about to loose the lower forst trails which is maybe the biggest part of the trail network in there.

    I'm truly shocked... Discovery is one of those far and away trails that are not easily to access.

    Man, I'm sad today.

    OTOH.... Congratulations on that great ride!!! It looked like lots of fun I lost of this time.

    Don't ask me what my day was... nice with family... but I rather was riding.
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    No good Del Nabo!

    OTOH.... Congratulations on that great ride!!! It looked like lots of fun I lost of this time.

    Don't ask me what my day was... nice with family... but I rather was riding.[/QUOTE]


    El domingo estuvo deeeeelll nabo!

    nada que hacer solo contemplaba mi rockosa y le sacaba el brillo a su basculante pulido ...

    hasta me refine la pelicula del Chanfle... CHANFLE!

    por la noche vi la academia o desafio de no se que...

    por cierto mis aguilas empataron....

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    Nice write up...good to see the Human GPS getting his bearings!! I can´t have missed the last bastard discovery ride grrrrrrrrr

    So it looks like some bolt cutters are in order for the next ride huh? Can´t let the best ride in the area slip away from us like that..maybe Raza or Xinte can help out...they probably have a bit of influence. Xinte sued the local council over dumping in la Luna and won.

    Otherwise..how high was that fence? We can get over it!! (Eh Warp) Of course we may need a valet service....

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead!

    Hey...who screwed my bridge?

    I figured out why the shots of the guys one the ground are blurry...you have to stop laughing...I found that in cam technique 101.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aids
    Nice write up...good to see the Human GPS getting his bearings!! I can´t have missed the last bastard discovery ride grrrrrrrrr

    So it looks like some bolt cutters are in order for the next ride huh? Can´t let the best ride in the area slip away from us like that..maybe Raza or Xinte can help out...they probably have a bit of influence. Xinte sued the local council over dumping in la Luna and won.

    Otherwise..how high was that fence? We can get over it!! (Eh Warp) Of course we may need a valet service....
    I already contacted the Xinte guys... their webmaster, Lalo, is an IMBA delegate and will push one button or two and will try to recover access.

    Unfortunately, Sir Mc****, some moto riders already put the idea of the bolt cutters into practice and that's why we have some trails closed.

    We can get away with the help of our arms (and a valet in the case of Tigerdog) but the MX riders don't and that's why they use the cable cutters.

    As much as I'd like to ride in there, that people could be so pissed that maybe they will shoot anyone trying to get in there. I'd say, let's try to get it back... the legal (or at least right) way.

    It has been the respect for property and environment what has opened access to MTB'ers to some Chiluca's trail. Let's keep our reputation like that.

    (I got your joke, Mc****... I'm just clarifying just in case somebody wouldn't catch the fine art of sarcasm )
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    Sarcasm SARCASM?? I didn´t use any of that stuff.. lowest form of wit don´t you know...or is that fart jokes..I get confused...(Well I love em both, but I never claimed to be high brow)
    Damn..I´m poking round the tool kit right now...thanks for the advice, looks like I´m going to have to tool up with some artillery as well.

    This will leave the Gotcha camps for dead!!!


    He he

    and wheres my damn sushi invite??? Mans getting hungry.

    haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha


    Heres a pic of my new ride!!!

    You can stick your bling..I´m the King!
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    Nope, it´s pretty sad when rides get cut off from people who love and respect the place.

    (....back to rumaging through my tools....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROCKY_RENE
    OTOH.... Congratulations on that great ride!!! It looked like lots of fun I lost of this time.

    Don't ask me what my day was... nice with family... but I rather was riding.

    El domingo estuvo deeeeelll nabo!

    nada que hacer solo contemplaba mi rockosa y le sacaba el brillo a su basculante pulido ...

    hasta me refine la pelicula del Chanfle... CHANFLE!

    por la noche vi la academia o desafio de no se que...

    por cierto mis aguilas empataron.... [/QUOTE]
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    I saw that you are fan of the great soccer team call aguilas , well then we need to buy the official mountain bike of the aguilas , the turbo , I saw this bike in d. martì very cheap . what do you think ?

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    Sir Ranazzotti :
    I saw that you are fan of the great soccer team call aguilas , well then we need to buy the official mountain bike of the aguilas , the turbo , I saw this bike in d. martì very cheap . what do you think ?

    the last biker[/QUOTE]

    I think that those "aguimachines" would have much power... and with a pair of wings that are included almost we fly!
    So... the yellow aguila is pretty and look us good!
    I think that if we bought several they improve its price

    Great idea!

    HAHAHAHA!

    Seria como formar el team aguila racing

    Deberiamos considerarlo!

    Disculpa mi inglés tan penoso

    Saludos!

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    p.d. veo que no te equivocaste en decir "El Gran Equipo de Futbol" Estas en lo cierto!
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    ¿quienes son las aguilas?


    jajajajjajaja

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    I'm not so sure that the reason the land owners were building a fence is only because of the motorbikes. I really don't think they see a diference in people cutting their fence (they spend a few hours of their life putting it there) or jumping it. I haven't talked to any of the land owners, but I don't really think that they worry that bikes will tear or will not tear the trails. I think they just see that outsiders are getting to their property where they don't want it. It may sound silly, but how would you like your neihbors kids to get into your house just to play on your garden? Probably once or twice would mean no problem, but some might just feel having people along their property as offensive.

    They may or may not have 'justified' reason for not wanting foreign people in their lands, but it's their land, and we must remember that when we ride, and not take the trials for granted.

    I think many people just see fences and think they're for everyone but them, be them bikers, hikers, whomever. I think we (as a biking comunity) should try to talk to the owners and negotiate a way where both parties will feel confortable with. It might even mean having to pay a fee to ride the trails, like a park fee. While it would be nice to make it free, maybe a nominal fee would smooth things up with the locals and make more trials open for riding.

    I think that would mean absolute respect for any fence that means that some terrains are off-limits, respect the trail, never litter, and be courteus on the people that live there.

    Anyway, I would like to verify with the guys from Xinte which part is really blocked. But we have to realize that if we can't make an agreement with the land tenants, it would mean no more ride there. Bummer! But disregarding of that would lead to more violent encounters, not necesarily with arms, but something that could turn nasty, or more trails closed. I would hate for the 'camino ancho' the only road open to get to Espiritu Santo... Specially since I'm feeling that sooner rather than later that road will be paved

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROCKY_RENE
    Nice pics Tigerdog!
    I wish be there but I´m tired and sick... X_X and I prefer wait for until next weekend...


    Thanks por relate and pics!


    Sorry my poor english
    Hey Rocky! ke mal pe2 que no fuiste, ya se que dices que no me baño y huelo feo, pero en f*n, espero que puedas ir a la siguiente rodada!

    Ok, see you and get well soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerdog
    More pictures. Haven't quite figured out how to compensate for low light on my cheapo camera.
    Now, back to the topic. This sunday with Tiger and band was great! I know they do the uttermost to find trail sections where I can walk-the-bike.... hahahaha

    I went with Lorena, which is a friend I met. I think she was great and enjoyed the ride the whole time. She was faster than me climbing, on the downhill section I was faster, but it was fun riding with people with your level or higher. Actually, it's nice riding with anybody.

    I don't know what's up with me, but I feel my condition is not improving when I compare what I did and how I did last year! But I jus think that's something I can work out to improve! I still think that having fun is the number one reason I've been riding my bike for as long as I have, and that reason was still as valid yesterday as the day I began.

    The climb to Espiritu Santo was nice but uneventfull. The woods are pretty nice, and the semi-english weather made it confortable (it was cloudy, not raining). We spent a little bit at Espiritu Santa, having some quekas and refreshments while we decided which trails we were going to use returning to the cars.

    We decided on the Discovery, and boy was that fun as hell! As Tiger said, Oscar led us after our fun decent through a road that, while step, was rideable in some sections, and less step that the other roads we took the other time!

    Now, I have to go because my eyes are turning sleepy...zzzzzzzzzzz but I really want to thank Oscar and the gang for the ride. I hope that both Renes can ride on the next outing, which seems it might be next weekend as a recon ride before our gathering! I hope nobody has forgoten that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rzozaya1969
    ¿quienes son las aguilas?


    jajajajjajaja

    :P

    Si sabes quién es el Real Madid en España, Inter-Milan-Juventus en Italia, Manchester en Inglaterra, River en Argentina, etc... sabrás quien es El Glorioso y Poderoso América.

    Si no un d*a vamos al Estadio Azteca y te lo presento ! Muchas chelas ahi esta de mas decirlo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rzozaya1969
    Hey Rocky! ke mal pe2 que no fuiste, ya se que dices que no me baño y huelo feo, pero en fên, espero que puedas ir a la siguiente rodada!

    Ok, see you and get well soon!
    No hay problema si me hubieras visto el domingo como me encontraba te aseguro que yo te hubiera ganado
    No como crees que voy a decir eso!

    Si la siguiente rodada ya estaré mas que listo para rodar! espero verte! y gracias ya me siento mejor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROCKY_RENE
    Si sabes quién es el Real Madid en España, Inter-Milan-Juventus en Italia, Manchester en Inglaterra, River en Argentina, etc... sabrás quien es El Glorioso y Poderoso América.

    Si no un d�*a vamos al Estadio Azteca y te lo presento ! Muchas chelas ahi esta de mas decirlo!
    Hey Rocky, enough about crap football teams (I should remove this post for mentioning Man U) - when are we going to see those Hopes laced up?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROCKY_RENE
    Si sabes quién es el Real Madid en España, Inter-Milan-Juventus en Italia, Manchester en Inglaterra, River en Argentina, etc... sabrás quien es El Glorioso y Poderoso América.

    Si no un d�*a vamos al Estadio Azteca y te lo presento ! Muchas chelas ahi esta de mas decirlo!
    Ah.. son equipos colegiales?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerdog
    Hey Rocky, enough about crap football teams (I should remove this post for mentioning Man U) - when are we going to see those Hopes laced up?!?
    Fan of the Manchester City??

    I guess those Hopes will end up used on a Titus....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerdog
    Hey Rocky, enough about crap football teams (I should remove this post for mentioning Man U) - when are we going to see those Hopes laced up?!?

    Oh! Ups I should say.. mmm... Leeds United?, Arsenal?, Liverpool? Chelsea?...

    Sorry! In México are... 1.- América, 2.- Chivas?, 3.- Cruz Azul?... 18:- Veracruz Sorry Tocayo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rzozaya1969
    Ah.. son equipos colegiales?
    Oh si de seguro! ... entreno y cascareo con ellos los sábados y al final nos echamos unas cahuamas

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROCKY_RENE
    ...The Hubs Hope... maybe finish of march... mm I don´t know
    Mavic XC717 disc rim VS DT Swiss xr 4.1 xc Disc rim...
    mmm i don´t know
    Why the wait? Still searching for rims? hmmm, Tiger has the 4.1, maybe he can give some insight as to how good or bad they are. They look pretty good. IMHO I like Mavic, but I don't know as to compare. How about a flip of the coin? or if the Aguilas win next time, you go Mavic, they loose, you go DT Swiss....

    Probably if I were building a wheel I would be looking at 5.1 vs Mavic 819.... but I'm a little bit heavier than you, so I would use stronger (albeit heavier) stuff.....

    Ok, tell us later how those 4.1 run...

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