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    Willowdale Conditions

    Has anyone been to Willowdale lately? Looking to ride there tomorrow if the conditions are OK. Thanks for the info.

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    Fire roads are packed but postholed and rough. Not as bad as Ft. Rock Wednesday. Some short icy sections. Singletrack - much was untracked. Mostly rideable with a fatbike. Vietnam, Wompatuck, the Cape are down to dirt. I'm going to check out Gloucester today. Expect that to be better than Willow.

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    Thanks for the update ramshackle. I heard from a friend who rode Beverly today. He said the trails were in good shape. Dirt with some snow but ridable on regular tires.

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    Willowdale Conditions

    Wow, can't believe there's trails in Mass without snow. We're still pretty buried in North Central MA. Riding over snowmobile trails with the fat bike are my only options.
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    Rode F. Gilbert Hills in Foxborough on the 24th and today, absolutely fantastic both days. Must ride area IMO

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    I rode Beverly this morning. The trails were a mixed bag. Very little dirt, some ice, some loose unpacked snow, and mostly packed snow. A lot of foot traffic on all the trails we were on. All in all, not a bad morning. Rode with regular tires.

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    I rode Willowdale yesterday afternoon, 12/31. Parked on Linebrooke Rd and rode a 29er hardtail with studded tires. I did a counter clockwise loop around the park. The single-track was mostly ice with some areas of snow-pack and some dirt here & there. The trails were heavily postholed from foot traffic.

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    Any update on Willowdale? Wanted to go out tomorrow (sunday) but i'm afraid it'll be nothing but mud.

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    Its going to be extremely muddy tomorrow after all the rain today. I wouldn't ride, it will just mess up the trail.

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    Willowdale Conditions

    Epic riding in there today. 29er with high roller 2s. Perfect snow.

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    Has anyone been in Willowdale recently (after the storm)? What are the conditions like?

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    Good skinny or fat. No ice to speak of.

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    Thanks for the update.

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    Does 'no ice' mean no snow either? Or are the trails still snow covered? Thinking about going out Saturday - assuming the ground will still be fairly frozen.

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    My last report was from before the last thaw and freeze. Conditions are now primarily hard ice with some bare spots. Great with studs, skinny or fat. Without studs, probably low on the fun meter. Weekend warming up, conditions will likely remain icy until melted to dirt.

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    Yesterday it was refrozen smooth fast blue ice on the center of the trails with frozen snow on the edges. Like a luge run. Awesome time with studded tires. It would be mostly unrideable without studs.

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    Has anyone been to Willowdale after the storm? I'm thinking of riding there this Sunday, 02/09 but wasn't sure if the trails would be packed down enough for riding.

    Thanks

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    Went down there Sunday 2/9. Unrideable. The snow is deep light and fluffy with no stability. It's been too cold for it to melt and refreeze. It's supposed to warm up Thursday night and Friday 2/14 so it should be pretty good on Saturday and Sunday once it freezes back up. Maybe. hahaha

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    updates?

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    Just a guess. Soft snow or soft dirt. Fire roads got packed down but single track never did that I saw. I still have 6" snow in an open sunny yard in Newbury. Might be good if it freezes hard for the weekend.

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    Snow, mud and lots of rain right now....
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    Anyone have an update on trail conditions?

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    Bueller?

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    I didn't ride Willowdale, I had no trail info. I ended up in Fort Rock last weekend. Trails were mostly ice, some snow pack, and very little dirt. I rode early everything so no mud.

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    I tried to ride Georgetown/Rowley on Saturday and it was still covered with soft deep snow. Seeing it's close proximity to Willowdale, I assumed it would be same there. So I ended up heading down to Beverly and the trails be a little better, 65% clear the rest was hard pack and lots of ice.

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    Re: Willowdale Conditions

    Update for everyone. I work at a golf course near willowdale and we finally melted out early this week. Gave it a few days and went to willowdale after work today for a quick spin.

    Fireroads are very wet and soft with some good sized icy spots remaining. The singletrack was snow free except for small spots here and there. There were some muddy spots on north facing hills that arent usually wet and the trails were loamier and softer than usual.

    All in all rideable but not 100% in yet. Could be a setback this weekend depending on how much rain we get. Can't say I'd recommend driving very far to ride willowdale at the moment if you're not in the area.

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    Anyone have any news on Willowdale? I'm thinking about giving it a go this weekend...

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    I gave Willowdale an abbreviated spin late on Sunday. I rode a good chunk of the northern part, off Linebrook. Generically, it was dryer than I had feared it would be. Singletrack was all pretty good. Maybe a tiny bit softer than usual, but not anything that would cause trail damage. Few mud spots, but nothing unavoidable.

    The fire roads had some sections that were pretty rough. Clearly our equestrian friends continued using them through mud season, and there's plenty of damage to them as a result.

    Other than the lung and leg pain from the first ride of the year it was a good day.

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    Hey all, how are trail conditions down around Willowdale? Some of us northerners are tempted to head south for rubber-on-dirt if there's any to be had. Are studded tires needed?

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    Frozen with some light dust of snow on the trails. Few icy spots under the light snow which makes for minor hazards if your careful or big hazards if you're going full tilt and not paying attention. Ground is frozen hard. Conditions will change tomorrow as it warms up but I rode 2.4 tires without studs.

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    Does anyone know if Willowdale will be rideable by this weekend? I put the studs on the 29er and I'm itching to get out there.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Not a chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit2005 View Post
    Does anyone know if Willowdale will be rideable by this weekend? I put the studs on the 29er and I'm itching to get out there.

    Thanks in advance.
    2 + feet of snow. How many miles did you snow shoe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leeboh View Post
    2 + feet of snow. How many miles did you snow shoe?

    Why this attitude??????? It's a yes or no question. If you have nothing to add.........don't post.

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    I know exactly where it is coming from. There are groups that have been “Grooming” trails for winter biking for many years. We would all grab our snowshoes and the human powered groomers and get it done. There are many new “Winter bikers” this season, and all they want to know is what is packed enough to ride. I have received many emails, through the NEMBA website”, and FB messages asking me about the current conditions at my local area. Many of the inquires are from people I do not know. If they were helping in the grooming they would know. Grab your bike and snowshoes and head to your place of choice and pick your weapon based on conditions. It takes a huge amount of effort to break trail with 33” of snow. From what I see, it’s the same group of people that are building white trails that build brown trails. We all want to ride. We have over 100 man hours into my local spot and it still is too soft. For those that are out there making it happen, Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit2005 View Post
    Why this attitude??????? It's a yes or no question. If you have nothing to add.........don't post.
    No attitude. Simple question. 2.5 to 3' of snow. On skinny tires?
    Try skis or snowshoes. Snow does not pack itself. Unless you are following a ski mobile. That much powdery snow would take at least 5-10 passes to start being able to ride a fat bike. Try road instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SofaKing Fast View Post
    I know exactly where it is coming from. There are groups that have been “Grooming” trails for winter biking for many years. We would all grab our snowshoes and the human powered groomers and get it done. There are many new “Winter bikers” this season, and all they want to know is what is packed enough to ride. I have received many emails, through the NEMBA website”, and FB messages asking me about the current conditions at my local area. Many of the inquires are from people I do not know. If they were helping in the grooming they would know. Grab your bike and snowshoes and head to your place of choice and pick your weapon based on conditions. It takes a huge amount of effort to break trail with 33” of snow. From what I see, it’s the same group of people that are building white trails that build brown trails. We all want to ride. We have over 100 man hours into my local spot and it still is too soft. For those that are out there making it happen, Thank you.
    Unless your tires only touch trails that you personly work on, you should drop this "Holier Than Thou" attitude. Somehow my post indicated that I don't snowshoe or conduct trail work. I'm not sure how you were able to get all of this out of my question regarding trail conditions for Willowdale. From past experience, I've found Willowdale usually is packed down quicker than other places which is why I asked. I assume this is due to a dedicated trail crew, the amount of traffic it gets, or (most likely) a combination of both. Unfortunately for me, Willowdale is haul. I'll drive to ride it but not snowshoe. If there's only snowshoeing available this weekend, I will do it but closer to home.

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    Again, no attitude. Anyone who snowshoes would know where the trails are packed. I heard the fells orange loop was good, before the 12" today. With 15+ miles @ willowdale, I would assume some closer dog walking trails would be packed down, but a real effort would be needed to make some of the singletrack ridable for fat tires. Skinny studs, good luck with that. Please post when your closer trails are packed down, thanks & Go Pats.

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    Anyone interested in showing a northshore native around these trails tomorrow (6/25) at any time? I'm visiting the folks for a few days, but would love to get out and ride! Also interested in hitting Georgetown Rowley (preferably first, as its easier to ride to for me)

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