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    otis boundary and sites????????

    went riding there twice this weekend and found it to be pretty fun out there. although i do find myself worrying about what i am legally a loud to ride on and what i shouldn't be. i start from rt 151 off of 28 like bikerag.com said to do which was fine the first day. kinda followed the highway which took me across the powerlines and just kept on going, keeping the highway close to me on my left.... no problems there....

    the second day is where i may have took a wrong turn or something. instead of going towars the powerlines i wanted to head to the opposite sides of the trail which eventually had me following a little railroad trail which was nice to have another boundary and good reference point so i don't get lost. however i followed this trail for a little bit then it split off and in less then five minutes i came to a paved road with powerlines on it and gates. i turned around to see a sign that said wildlife boundary. but i could only see the sign when i decided not to cross the street and turn back which leaves me to believe i was out of bounds the whole time.... my one major question is, is that the airforce base? if not then was i actually out of bounds at all. any clarrification would be appreciated as i find it a little nerve racking making sure i don't end up on the base by accident.

    i apologise for it being long but i am sure this all makes sense to some otis riding veteran.

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    cross the road and the trails continue. its all oafb land. dont sweat it. Just keep an eye out for airforce ninjas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doro
    cross the road and the trails continue. its all oafb land. dont sweat it. Just keep an eye out for airforce ninjas.
    it is all legal to ride on or not? i am a little old to be running from enviromentals or the airforce anymore. i thought riding out there was totaly legal? as long as you didn't park and start from the wrong spot you pretty safe.

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    as long as your not on a dirt bike/quad they could care less.

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    I rode there for the first time this weekend as well. I found it a little tough to know when you're on military property and when you're not. From what I read on NEMBA's website, if you come to a paved road, do not cross it. If they see you, they will at the very least ask you to leave, and possibly escort you off the property. We came to the paved road 2 or 3 times, just turned around and went back. There was one time we were very unsure if we were in an area that was okay, I just checked out google maps on my phone, it showed that we were right on the border, so we went south into an area that we weren't going to get sniped for trespassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straz85
    I rode there for the first time this weekend as well. I found it a little tough to know when you're on military property and when you're not. From what I read on NEMBA's website, if you come to a paved road, do not cross it. If they see you, they will at the very least ask you to leave, and possibly escort you off the property. We came to the paved road 2 or 3 times, just turned around and went back. There was one time we were very unsure if we were in an area that was okay, I just checked out google maps on my phone, it showed that we were right on the border, so we went south into an area that we weren't going to get sniped for trespassing.
    were you there on sunday at like 10 or 11 in a vw with two other guys? i noticed the kona bike in the sig and i am pretty sure one of them had a kona.

    i found the weird part about the road was when i came up to the road if i am not sapost to cross it you would think the town would post sign that says military base property on other side or something like that.

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    if it was ever an issue mtbing would be locked out of there years ago. dont sweat it
    and just ride. i have been local to that place for years and never had any issues.

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    Hey everyone!

    I was there w/ friends on sunday for the first time as well... And i think we ran into the "guy with the Kona" and his friend on a white Specialized.

    Anyhow, i found the trails pretty fun... better then Trail of Tears... more techy stuff... but still plenty of flow. I had many GPS files and trails... but somehow, i couldn't follow... to many intersection, i just went with the flow... Ended up doing a sweet ride!

    I think the "left side" (along rte 28) is easier to navigate and understand... But on the other side of the antenna and wind mill, there are many dirt / paved / ancient roads that make it harder to understand... I couldn't follow the inteneray i had planned for on the way out... but did manage to find a sweet downhill to get us back to our car.

    Otis is now on the lists of places to visit next time we make it out to the cape!
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    Quote Originally Posted by adumb
    were you there on sunday at like 10 or 11 in a vw with two other guys? i noticed the kona bike in the sig and i am pretty sure one of them had a kona.

    i found the weird part about the road was when i came up to the road if i am not sapost to cross it you would think the town would post sign that says military base property on other side or something like that.
    Yup, that was me driving and my Kona you saw on the rack. Were you the one in the Outback that got there about the same time as me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay
    Hey everyone!

    I was there w/ friends on sunday for the first time as well... And i think we ran into the "guy with the Kona" and his friend on a white Specialized.

    Anyhow, i found the trails pretty fun... better then Trail of Tears... more techy stuff... but still plenty of flow. I had many GPS files and trails... but somehow, i couldn't follow... to many intersection, i just went with the flow... Ended up doing a sweet ride!

    I think the "left side" (along rte 28) is easier to navigate and understand... But on the other side of the antenna and wind mill, there are many dirt / paved / ancient roads that make it harder to understand... I couldn't follow the inteneray i had planned for on the way out... but did manage to find a sweet downhill to get us back to our car.

    Otis is now on the lists of places to visit next time we make it out to the cape!
    Hey, you're the one with the GPS that was giving us directions, right? The directions you gave us worked out great, we ended up riding another 4 or 5 miles after that. I hope your trip down to the Cape went well. Did you spend most of the trip riding or did you get to see more of the area as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straz85
    Yup, that was me driving and my Kona you saw on the rack. Were you the one in the Outback that got there about the same time as me?
    no i was in the focus parked right behind you....i was just leaving as you guys showed up... i happened to drive by there four hours later and your car was still there.. you must have covered every trail in that place a couple times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straz85
    Hey, you're the one with the GPS that was giving us directions, right? The directions you gave us worked out great, we ended up riding another 4 or 5 miles after that. I hope your trip down to the Cape went well. Did you spend most of the trip riding or did you get to see more of the area as well?
    Yeah, that's right!

    Trip was great. Did a whole bunch of riding every day... visited the pubs and restaurants... drove to Provincetown to see what the fuss was about... Got disapointed... but at least there was no trafic... so everything went smooth.

    Glad you had fun on the extra loop! Too bad Otis was to be our "smallest" day of riding... I would have gone an extra 2h in there!
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    even though I've been riding Otis for years I still couldn't give... . anyway, my routes cross a road once or sometimes twice and, depending which trail, after going down a steep trail you either travel the road and take a left or take a trail parallel to the road. this is also where you cross the road from yet another flatter trail which sounds like where you might have been. you can see a gate in the distance but I've never gone down that way. so don't be afraid to cross a road if the trail goes across.

    I live here and I still just ride by feel and have a loose set route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adumb
    no i was in the focus parked right behind you....i was just leaving as you guys showed up... i happened to drive by there four hours later and your car was still there.. you must have covered every trail in that place a couple times.
    According to my computer we ended up riding about 3.5 hours, but there was also a fair amount of time spent figuring out where we were going, standing around talking, trying to fix the RD on my buddy's Gary Fisher. We covered 13 miles.

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    connectivity

    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay
    Anyhow, i found the trails pretty fun... better then Trail of Tears... more techy stuff... but still plenty of flow.

    Otis is now on the lists of places to visit next time we make it out to the cape!
    not better than trail o tears, better when ridden with trail o tears big jay. you cvan do a big loop connecting the 2 with a whole bunch of other stuff. on thanx giving i was down visiting family and did a nice 55 miler connecting both. makes for a nice outing, and yer mostly on trail.

    hmmm, may have to put another cape cod 50 miler together soon, probably sometime in july. nice to see you on the tracks in early april.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog
    not better than trail o tears, better when ridden with trail o tears big jay. you cvan do a big loop connecting the 2 with a whole bunch of other stuff. on thanx giving i was down visiting family and did a nice 55 miler connecting both. makes for a nice outing, and yer mostly on trail.

    hmmm, may have to put another cape cod 50 miler together soon, probably sometime in july. nice to see you on the tracks in early april.

    rog

    I'd be into a connector loop. Let me know when this goes down. i'm 2 mins from tot and always looking to pedal.

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    i've never had a problem there. if there are still trails ride em.

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