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    Lynn Woods carnage... Pray and wish a fellow rider a good recovery.

    No pictures, but the images still play in my mind!

    My friend drove up from NYC to enjoy a weekend ride in LW. The four of us, geared up and set out on the jaunt. We marvelled at the perfect riding conditions and enjoyed the renuinon of friends. But one hour into our ride, being the front biker, I quickly turned around in response to gruesome sounding shouts from my friend. I knew immediately he suffered a bad injury.

    He was on the ground; his lower leg was bent and flopping around like a broken candy cane still in it's bag. Horrific! Basically his leg snapped like a chicken bone. His bike lay to his side with the front wheel twisted. And he was writhing, twisting, clenched in pain with uncontrollable shouts. I ran and checked him for more injury and then grabbed his hand tightly to comfort him.

    We called 911, and paramedics and LFD arrived 30 mins later. They tried to call the Coast Guard for an airlift basket to get him out of woods but ended up with 8 men carrying him out in a hammock-like stretcher. Terrible. He was screaming. It sounded like a war zone.

    I was saddened. I think he's going to have a long road to recovery. Please wish him well or say a prayer. Thanks.

    After he was tucked away in the hospital ER and after most of the dust settled, my friend and I discussed if leg armor would have saved him. He had just bought 661 knee pads for the ride, and that's all he wore. We tried to figure out the mechanism of how it happened.
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    Damn. I wish him a speedy recovery.

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    What trail were you on? CF.

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    I am sorry to hear about your friend. I hope he has a speedy and complication free recovery. With some luck and hard rehab work perhaps he can be with you on the trails again.

    I doubt leg armor would have made any difference. You said his leg was "flopping aroung like a broken candy cane still in its bag" which seems to indicate he broke both bones (Tibia & Fibula). More often than not, that means he had his lower leg planted or trapped while his upper body continued to move. I would not be surprised to hear that it is a spiral fracture necessitating the insertion of one or more rods for stabilization.This is just not the type of injury leg armor is designed to prevent.

    I will pray for your injured friend as well as you and the other rider. That is a simply horrible experience to have been involved in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZY FRED
    What trail were you on? CF.
    This was my friend's third time in LW and he mentioned to me that he'd been riding a lot more recently so I felt it was likely he had gained more skills. Some history: the first two times we went --months ago--he had some falls including an endo where he landed on his hip and got a hip bruise that was the size of a compact disc. So this time, I decided to take an easier trail (if you can call any northside LW trail "easy"). We headed into the woods from the rock near RT 1 power lines right where people enter when parked at the former Naked Fish. You know that rock with the large stone and rotting wood pallets on it? If you go right, it's the rock garden that runs south along rt 1, and if you go left it's winding singletrack that leads to a 1 foot table stone that's a few feet in length and then to a 1 foot stepup before a short but narrow climb that is flanked on its left by a rock roller. Once you get up the short climb, it levels out on a large flat boulder. Directly across, there's an entrance to more single track. It was there, about 100 yards in, where a few stone obstacles exist, where he crashed when rolling a 1 to 2 foot high rock. Currently there's a knocked-over, cracked pine tree where he fell. I don't know the name of the trail, but it wasn't anything major tech, and he said it wasn't anything he hadn't conquered before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairbanks007
    I am sorry to hear about your friend. I hope he has a speedy and complication free recovery. With some luck and hard rehab work perhaps he can be with you on the trails again.

    I doubt leg armor would have made any difference. You said his leg was "flopping aroung like a broken candy cane still in its bag" which seems to indicate he broke both bones (Tibia & Fibula). More often than not, that means he had his lower leg planted or trapped while his upper body continued to move. I would not be surprised to hear that it is a spiral fracture necessitating the insertion of one or more rods for stabilization.This is just not the type of injury leg armor is designed to prevent.

    I will pray for your injured friend as well as you and the other rider. That is a simply horrible experience to have been involved in.
    I think you may be right about having armor not helping. Yes, I looked at the xray and he surely did have a distal transverse TibFib fracture. It looked like there where some fragments as well (comminuted fracture?). I did move the upper part of the leg when we were in the woods and the lower part just flopped freely. BUT it was good that he didn't have a compound fx. I agree with you as well on the mechanism of injury as the most likely. I don't think he hit it. It was more of leg/foot plant on the ground, trapped while all his weight moved down on it. I originally thought that maybe his pedal pressed on his leg and then acted as a fulcrum of force to break the bone, but there wasn't much skin damage. He said that he heard the bones crack as he went down.

    I feel pretty awful about all this and couldn't stop thinking about it last night. It was supposed to be a day of fun and then lunch and campfire afterwards.

    I'm going to the hospital again today. He's had a few imaging tests including a CT scan.
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    Our group has a similar tale last season but we got him out a bit faster than what you describe.

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    Man that sucks for your buddy. I hate hearing about cyclist injuries, mountain or road. Send him our best and hopefully they get him put back together and he's back at it again next year .
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    Best wishes for a speedy and full recovery. Get him some MTB DVDs to pass the time.

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    I went out for a ride today and felt a little "spooked" after yesterday's incident. It showed me the reality of what could happen to a biker.

    I went to the hospital today. By the way, the ER triage told me they've seen 3 bikers brought over from LW in the past two months.

    Thanks everyone for kind words!
    For encouragement, I'm going to direct him to this thread.
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    Healing vibes to your friend. Sounds like your taking this hard, tough to do, but stop beating yourself up over it. Accidents happen and since it was on some mild features it's no ones fault. If he had been on a tough stunt, beyond his skills then some guilt may be appropiate. Hopefully he can come back and ride again.

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    Thanks all. I'm the guy you've been reading about. Going home today, hopefully swelling will go down in time for surgery tentatively scheduled for Friday.

    Hard to write much right now so I'll update ppl later. I will say it hurt like no other hurt before! :-(

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    Best of luck for a speedy recovery. Its been a crazy November in Lynn. The first Saturday of the month a rider broke his arm pretty bad was sent over to Lynn Union Hospital, that Sunday another rider busted their ankle and yesterday we have a fellow ride hit there head requiring a CAT scan. Everything came back fine with them.

    Must be the leaves??? Front wheels wash out so fast, you don't even realize what happen until your on the ground.

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    That sucks for your buddy. I'll keep him in my prayers.

    LW takes no prisoners. Be careful out there everyone...

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    Just found out I'm stuck at union hospital for another 5 days. Pretty bummed out.

    LW is completely diff riding for me. I usually goto Blue Mtn in Westchester County, NY, which is much more flowy type XC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victim
    Healing vibes to your friend. Sounds like your taking this hard, tough to do, but stop beating yourself up over it. Accidents happen and since it was on some mild features it's no ones fault.
    Yeah, when it first happened, other than my concern for him, it was mentally kicking myself. I felt I, as the lead rider in the group, had brought this on him ,and especially because I took him to LW again after seeing his previous falls. Others have echoed what you say though, so I'm feeling better about it now.
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    heal well man. sounds like the gods of lynn are hungry for blood. caution

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselbikes
    Best of luck for a speedy recovery. Its been a crazy November in Lynn. The first Saturday of the month a rider broke his arm pretty bad was sent over to Lynn Union Hospital, that Sunday another rider busted their ankle and yesterday we have a fellow ride hit there head requiring a CAT scan. Everything came back fine with them.

    Must be the leaves??? Front wheels wash out so fast, you don't even realize what happen until your on the ground.

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    Good luck with the recovery.
    That sucks to happen but at least it happened at the end of the season.
    I hope you're not a skier.
    Hopefully the time will pass quickly.
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    Haha well. I'm an avid snowboarder. I can kiss that goodbye this winter. :-)

    still waiting to find out when I can get operation. The waiting -- and the pain -- is still killing me.

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    Wow.... that sucks definetly wishing your friend a speedy recovery.

    When I hear about these catastrophic injuries, I like to get as many details to aid in my perevention, so: What sort of shape is your friend in? What sort of feature were you riding?

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    I'm a very fit guy but dont have the archetypal mtb build. I'm 5'11" and 195 lbs so definitely bulkier with lots of mass. I do alot of aggressive XC but nothing on the same scale as LW.

    Aust95 will be returning to the scene sometime soon to review the crash site. From what I remember I was going over a smallish boulder but then immediately hit another one. O popped up in air, lost control of bike, right leg was pinned under my bike and everything came down on top of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinshield
    Our group has a similar tale last season but we got him out a bit faster than what you describe.
    What happened? Where?
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    Sounds like just bad luck. How many times has something similar happened to all of us, minus the broken bones of course. Sorry to read about it. I hope you have better experiences riding in MA in the future. I was just in LW last week for only the 2nd time this season and simply did not do a lot of stuff I've done before. Just steep rolls, etc, but my buddy was feeling the same fear as well. I guess it's the kind of place you need to be familiar with in order to not be hesitant. Anyway I'm rambling. Ger better soon and get back on the bike ASAP.

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    Get better soon jsyteng!

    30 minutes for LFD to arrive seems a bit excessive. I don't know LW, but is the area you were riding in that remote? Did they have trouble finding you? Did they have 4 wheelers or anything? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longshanks
    Get better soon jsyteng!

    30 minutes for LFD to arrive seems a bit excessive. I don't know LW, but is the area you were riding in that remote? Did they have trouble finding you? Did they have 4 wheelers or anything? Just curious.
    consider the terrain of Lynn Woods, 30 minutes is a pretty good response time.

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    We were 1/2 mile into the woods with winding single track and rock terrain between us and route 1 highway. Since there were three of us with him, one rider biked out to the street to meet the paramedics to lead them in. I stabilized his leg and added compression to limit the bleeding. The other guy gave moral support. The task of carrying him out was most difficult. It required eight men lifting the stretcher to navigate up and over rocks and between tight spaces among the trees.
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    good luck with your recovery. the leaves can make even well known trails sketchy.

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    agreed. 30m is not bad. they could get to the trailhead in under 5m yet all the time is spent getting to the scene. most lynn trails are not accessible by atv. being extracted the long way via 8 men carrying a stretcher is the norm unless you can get to the main fire road near the ballfield. sometimes the ambulance can get down the fire road a ways. this evac reminds me of about 8-10 years ago. i was out there when jeffery kirby broke his neck. we had to carry him out by stretcher with 8 guys and it was hard as hell. then one of the pins at the end of the stretcher snapped and we had to use duck tape and medical tape to keep it together.

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    thanks for all the well wishes, folks.

    so after having a very vivid dream about it again last nite, I've figured out why I crashed.

    I lowered my seat twice at the beginning of the ride, making the bike more slack. This was done bec. I did an endo over a steep rock at the very beginning (a bad omen). My bike was definitely set up as more XC prior to that point.

    At the moment of the crash, I was doing a slight descent over a couple of mid sized boulders. As is the usual case while descending, I backed off the saddle, but this time I could not feel the saddle touching my gut. I could feel the bike starting to wobble underneath me, and that's when I collapsed down on my right side with my leg still clipped in and curled underneath me. It wasn't a violent crash at all, but it all came down on my shin.

    The lowered seat was too dramatic of a change for me. Like I said, usually I can still feel the saddle touching my gut while descending, which helps to control the bike for me. Without that point of contact, any sort of left/right slant on the rock tilted my bike to the side, and voila! There you have it.

    Aust95 and I feel much better after figuring this out, bec. after this accident my confidence was shaken. I knew I was a better biker than this. Live and learn, as they say.

    Operation at 3pm tomo afternoon. I'm sure everything will be fine. It's the waiting around this past week that has been most traumatic. I'll update the thread afterwards.

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    Good Luck with the operation.

    It's good that you've figured out what went wrong. The first thing to do is get right back in the saddle, after PT and you are recovered completely.

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    Good Luck

    I broke the tib/fib in both legs back in 96. I'm out riding all the time. I can ride the trails better than walk them to be honest. I broke my legs skiing at Waterville Valley. Skiing and ran over a white trash bag and slid into a sign and looked down at my legs and the bottom of my feet were looking at me. Could not believe it! Going down the mountain in the first aid sled and I kept saying to myself, I can't believe this has happened, and I was a very good skier. Three operations later I'm doing fine, can't run since I lost full range of motion in my ankles but I ride as much as possible. Get into a good rehab place, I did and it made all the difference in the world.

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    anyone know if the park commission has done a new survey and created a new map? when was it last updated? diesel?

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    jsy, now that you have replayed the crash in your mind, i'll ask the question again posed earlier, do you think shin pads may have helped? hope the surgery goes well for you & definitely try to ride when your able to squash those demons

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    Yes in hindsight I think shin guards wouldve helped.

    I'm super bumming out now. Surgery called off last minute. Swelling still bad and now have developed severe fracture blisters. Too risky to cut open now.

    I am laid up in Union hospital for another several days. May operate on Friday. I am definitely in Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stop Drop N Roll
    anyone know if the park commission has done a new survey and created a new map? when was it last updated? diesel?
    We have been working with park management regarding a new revised map for Lynn Woods since 2005. The Official map of the park was created back in the early 90s (approx. 1991) under a Mass Dept. Greenways Grant. Since that time, much has changed in the woods. Changing the official City map of Lynn Woods feels like we need an act of god to help. It is not on the radar of City Hall.

    Dieselbikes was given the ok to create our own revised map on our website that shows most of the trails with the common names mountain bikers use. This has been used by Lynn fire and police for e-vacs from the woods.

    Dieselbikes is scheduled to meet with the park commission in Dec. regarding permits for our 2010 events and will inquire about an updated map.

    Politics are in play...this is why a new map has not been created yet. The story is long and I could write a book about it, but we are still working this matter for the riding community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselbikes
    ...Dieselbikes was given the ok to create our own revised map on our website that shows most of the trails with the common names mountain bikers use. This has been used by Lynn fire and police for e-vacs from the woods.

    Dieselbikes is scheduled to meet with the park commission in Dec. regarding permits for our 2010 events and will inquire about an updated map.
    A new map with trail names would help in locating people when an e-vac is needed. Plenty of people use those woods for recreation so if there was an injury of a lone rider, it'd be difficult for them to describe where they were.
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    Well folks I give up. Insurance is shutting me down here, so I've decided to risk it and return to NYC without having had the surgery. Gonna be a painful trip, but I can't stay away from home any longer (neither can my wife and kid). Hope to find good surgeon back in NYC.

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    Best wishes and good luck in your recovery .

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    Why is the insurance co "shutting you down?"

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    No offense to Union Hospital but sometimes small town medicine just doesn't compare to the stuff you get in the big city. If you can endure the ride home, do a little research and get the best doctor you can. Take it from me, there is nothing routine about routine surgery. My tib/fib that should have been a "set it and forget it" left me in the ICU for 5 days and in the hospital another 25. They sent me home after 8 surgeries with a gimp stump of a foot and no one to blame. At least you're going home with a Lynn Woods Limp. Even so, biking is one of the few things I can still do with out any pain or issues. Not sure if I'm cheering you up or knockin you down. Either way, stay positive and good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aust95
    What happened? Where?
    Wasn't at LW. We were in Lowell and my buddy went down a long, steep rock face and he wasn't lined up right and bailed. He got twisted up in his bike and snapped his leg.

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    CIGNA didn't feel it was medically necessary to be in hospital awaiting surgery. Told me to basically wait at home. Pretty retarded but did not have energy to fight, took it as sign to bail on Union Hospital and find someone back in NYC

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    Quote Originally Posted by kubaner
    No offense to Union Hospital but sometimes small town medicine just doesn't compare to the stuff you get in the big city. If you can endure the ride home, do a little research and get the best doctor you can. Take it from me, there is nothing routine about routine surgery. My tib/fib that should have been a "set it and forget it" left me in the ICU for 5 days and in the hospital another 25. They sent me home after 8 surgeries with a gimp stump of a foot and no one to blame. At least you're going home with a Lynn Woods Limp. Even so, biking is one of the few things I can still do with out any pain or issues. Not sure if I'm cheering you up or knockin you down. Either way, stay positive and good luck.
    I agree with you, but there are some excellent small town doctors who don't practice at big name institution. Sometimes, it depends on the individual and not the facility. I have doctor friends and they largely feel the same way as I do; that is, don't discredit the quality of the M.D. because he practices in a "smaller" setting. But yes, certainly, small hospitals might not hold the doc as accountable for HOW he practices. My friend was at Union hospital, and from my opinion and for what he tells me, he got good care from a compassionate nursing staff, BUT the problem that I have is the orthopedic doc only saw him 3 days out of the 5 that during when he first stayed in the hospital. During the last two days before discharge, the doc didn't even come in and examine his injury. His condition may have changed in the two days before he was sent home! And it did! Docs are supposed to see a patient EVERY DAY when they are in the hospital.

    When he came back to Union a few days later schedule for surgery, the ortho unwrapped his wound and said he wouldn't operate based on how the wound looked. My friend and his family and others were looking forward to getting this resolved, but all our hopes were shattered 9 days after the injury when the surgeon decided not to operate. I spoke to a close surgeon friend last night and we felt that my friend should have been better cared for by the doctor. We also felt there was an underlying insurance issue since he was also laid off from work, so perhaps there was concern of poor medical reimbursement for the treatment.

    We all feel that this painful accident was made worse by the type of care he received by the doc. Eleven days after breaking his leg, his leg is still broken, the bones are still shattered in the same way, the pain hasn't subsided and he hasn't been able to ween down his pain medication, he's still in a the same splint that was placed on the first day at Union Hospital ER. We expected quicker treatment. On top of this, he has a wife and 15 month old girl that depend on him. They're stressed out.

    We'll still keep our heads up and give him props for enduring all this. I'll tell him to keep the hope up. They're going back to NYC today to seek a new orthopod.

    By the way, you must have your own story to tell about what happened to your leg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsyteng
    CIGNA didn't feel it was medically necessary to be in hospital awaiting surgery. Told me to basically wait at home.

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    "the stuff" I was referring to is indeed the facilities rules and practices. Not really the doctors abilities. Even so, had he been at Mass General I bet he would have been seen more often. If the doctor in Lynn was worth anything he wouldn't need the hospital to dictate the standard of care your friend gets. It would be in his nature. And if it was he would probably be making more money at a better hospital

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsyteng
    I'm a very fit guy but dont have the archetypal mtb build. I'm 5'11" and 195 lbs so definitely bulkier with lots of mass. I do alot of aggressive XC but nothing on the same scale as LW.

    Aust95 will be returning to the scene sometime soon to review the crash site. From what I remember I was going over a smallish boulder but then immediately hit another one. O popped up in air, lost control of bike, right leg was pinned under my bike and everything came down on top of it.
    I'm curious if you were riding clipless pedals or not and if you think that could have played a part in crash and injury? I go back and forth between clipless and platforms but at a place like Lynn I will use platforms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victim
    I'm curious if you were riding clipless pedals or not and if you think that could have played a part in crash and injury? I go back and forth between clipless and platforms but at a place like Lynn I will use platforms.
    He was riding clipless and, while he is fully comfortable with them getting in and out, he fell quickly and unexpectedly that being in the pedal was a factor in trapping his lower leg under the bike.

    I prefer riding clipless in LW mainly because it's the only way I can make the toughest climbs. I've used platforms and like them for rollers and drops--easier to bail.
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    Back in NYC. Surgery scheduled for Monday morning. Wish me luck!

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    Good luck,man. Hope you get back on the trails asap.

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    Once I fully recover I should reward myself with a Turner Spot hehe!

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    We're all thinking about you here in forums. Lets not get carried away with the Turner Spot in front of your wife, she might overreact and lay down the law on ya man!! Women can't live with em can't live without em? Stay warm up there in NY, it's about 55 or 60 here in Alabama. Raining though. No riding today. Get well and see ya on the trail soon.

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    Blue Mountain is about as close to LW as you can get around NYC. Definitely some crazy stuff in there too. Both crazy awesome places to ride.

    Hope you have a speedy recovery.

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    Blue is amazing. Been going there tons since I picked up mtb several yrs ago.

    I'm in the surgery prep room now at NYU hospital. Going under in 15 min!

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    Here's a little Tib/Fib surgery for you. With a dose of compartment syndrome thrown in for good measure.
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    Kubaner, your picture didn't show. You had compartment syndrome?! Where were you treated? You can lose your leg if that happens.
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    Here's a little Tib/Fib surgery for you. With a dose of compartment syndrome thrown in for good measure.
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    Looks like you had a proximal or midshaft tibfib fracture. Very pretty. How'd it happen?
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    Man vs. tree.
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    jsyteng's fracture is a pretty bad comminuted fracture. We're wondering how long his rehab will be and how long until he's riding again. He went in for surgery today. I figured if it's a few months, maybe he'll be able to ride in April.

    kubaner, how long was recovery? It looks like they stitched up your knee in that picture.

    By the way, I broke my ankle 7 weeks ago in LW. It was only a hairline fracture so I was able to get back on the bike relatively soon.
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    My break was about the same. A few pieces floating around inside. I had an intramedullary rod put in the night of the break but ended up with compartment syndrome. I think the doctor and nursing staff got tired of hearing me complain about the pain so they stuck me in the ICU in Conway. It took my wife pulling a Tazmanian Devil on them to get them to ship me to Maine Med where they took me seriously and tested me for something no one in Conway thought of. I spent the next month in the hospital and had 8 surgeries. Another one 6 months later to transfer tendons from the outside of my foot to the top so I would no longer have foot drop and one more a couple of years ago to re-pin my toes straight and lengthen my achilles tendon. My understanding was, that had everything gone as it should have, I would have been able to bear weight in 6-8 weeks and ski/bike in 12 or so. Didn't happen. I was on crutches for 4 months and not much better for the next 3 til my next surgery. Basically ate up a year of my life. Luckily it doesn't hamper my biking except not being able to clip out of my left pedal at all. So jsyteng should be looking good in a few months. If they did a rod. Those staples on my knee were from where the rod was inserted. If he has a cast he'll be out for like 6 months. Good luck to him. Make sure you keep him occupied so he doesn't get too bored, lonely and depressed. There's nothing cool about a perc'd out thirty year old crying on his english muffin.

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    I just about lost it looking at that pic

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    Kubaner, that's quite the experience. Sounds like hell for a year! I'm glad you're back on the bike.

    My buddy jsyteng is 2 days after surgery at NYU medical center. From what I'm told, they put some hardware into the leg to fix it and was planning on discharging him yesterday. His pain, however, has been excruciating so anethesia had to get involved and now he's on IV fentanyl because morphine and the other meds didn't work. They basically had to put him partway under to control his pain. His wife says he sometimes half wakes up and asks for me. Well, I'm in Boston and he's in NYC...he's really out of it.
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    Happy turkey day folks!

    I am in day 4 at NYU hospital. Surgery went well, but pain was not contained until this morning. It was impossible for to type otherwise I wouldve updated thread sooner

    basically during the two weeks after the surgery, and before the surgery I had built up an incredie tolerance to painkillers. After surgery it seemed like nothing worked. Even the anathesia team was stumped. At its worst I was being iv'd a constant stream of Dilaudid.

    The fracture blisters have subsided, which I'm thankful for. The most painful part is when I change my dressing; the gauze still sticks to my skin and hurts like he'll. But least ive beem operated on and road to recovery.

    Might be discharged tommorow : -)

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    Good News J!

    PS I was riding LW the day of your accident. They had just put you in the ambulance when I rode up. I met Austin, and we talked for a bit. His face told the story.

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    I am now home. Accepting the fact that I am completely bedridden for awhile has been a real challenge.

    The meds are wreaking havoc with my body. Hot flashes to cold chills one minute to the next. Two long incisions along lower shin. Post op swelling is terribly painful. Cast feels like a ton, and in the few moments that I get around, I am immediately winded and wiped out.

    I'll post some more thoughts about the future of mtb, and how it will fit in my life, sometime soon. Right now I know that as a 39yr old father, I won't be taking the same risks again.

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    Just checking in jsyteng. Hopefully you're feeling a little better. The one thing I remember about the homecoming and effects from the meds was walking ten feet only to stop for a couple minutes and then another ten and then another ten until I got to the bathroom and had to force a cement bud can out of my ass. That and that there is not much on at 3:30 in the morning. I basically had the same med-ley that you did and can concur that they screw you up bad. Watch what you eat too. I went into the hospital at 213lbs and came out at 178lbs 30 days later. When you stop moving and supporting your weight your legs shrivel up like old green beans. So while a little weight loss isn't that bad, you don't want to be swapping muscle for fat by eating ice cream for breakfast. Stick to the hospital type food, plain chicken and veggies, and you'll snap back a lot quicker.
    And be sure to leave the staples in as long or longer than they say. The swelling takes forever to go down and my leg basically ripped open after they pulled the staples. Should have stayed in another two weeks if you ask me. I'm sure your as bored as bored gets so maybe my 2 cents will at least occupy you for a couple minutes. Good luck again with the recovery.

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    hey kubaner, thanks for checking in. I am getting better. The first week when I got home was the worst, could feel the depression setting in immediately. Being bedridden and required to elevate leg above heart was a real drag. Most of the time I had to lay my back flat against the bed and just stare at the frickin' ceiling. Thankfully I have an iphone, which helped while away the time. Being laid up in this way is a major setback to my job search, too.

    I weaned off the meds pretty quickly. I couldn't take the side effects anymore, esp. the constipation (cement bud can, LOL). My mood swings were outta control and I was breaking down alot. Insomnia is still here, though. I had my follow up appt with the ortho 2 days ago and had my sutures removed, and am no longer required to elevate my leg all the time since the swelling has gone down. I am down 20 lbs, to 180 lbs. I actually sorta like being leaner and am gonna try and stay around this weight. I have completely cut cafffiene, alcohol, and smoking out of my life. I definitely hope to keep the latter out forever.

    I have been taking this vitamin called Arth-X which is supposed to help bones heal better. Drinking lotsa fancy antioxidant shakes that my wife is learning to make from the local health food store.

    I have been playing lots of online Street Fighter on Xbox 360. I do miss biking alot, both mtb and my fixie.

    Slowly regaining strength and getting around on crutches better. My legs have definitely shriveled though, as you say.

    here is the most recent xray: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...9&id=758526659

    I know this is early but I am really worried how I am gonna feel once I hop back on my mtn bike again. I am psychologically affected by my accident and am probably gonna be scared at first, even on an easy fire road. Well, it's several months away, at least. I'm pretty bummed that this is gonna be the 2nd year in a row I'll be missing snowboarding (last winter was when the baby was born).

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    FYI, found out the fractures were much worse than originally thought. Fibula was fractured into many pieces (too many to count, according to ortho). Spiral fractured extended down into ankle and displaced a bone there as well. Just a nightmare overall. But nothing will ever compare to your compartment syndrome!

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    One of my Buddies triped over a flower pot in front of a store and did a spiral fracture into the shoulder socket. OOOOuch!!!!! These weird things can happen. Hang in there Dude it'll get better. Nothing more depressing than being down for a while. Wish I had some words of wisdom.

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    Good to hear you're staying on top of things. It'll make it that much easier once you start moving around a little more to get back to your old self. As far as being nervous about riding again, I'm sure you'll be fine. You're probably at the lowest point as far as confidence right now. Once you start riding again you'll snap out of it. You might wear more pads and think twice about this or that, but if you live for riding like most of us, it'll be hard to get away from it. Five years ago, our whole group was dropping stuff and downhilling all the time, now we've all kind of gone back to climbing and technical stuff. Granted, it is in Lynn woods, so there is still the chance someone will get hurt cause even the single track is littered with three and four foot drops but once your confidence is back you'll be fine. Nice xray too, I may have you beat for gore but you definitely have more hardware than me. I'm sure I'll bump in to Aust95 in the woods. We'll be sure to go for a ride next time you come up to Lynn.

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    thanks for the encouragement. Yeah, low confidence bec. I crashed on something I usually can do with my eyes closed. Aust95 has the picture of the rock on which I took the spill. Wasn't even that violent a crash in hindsight. It just all came down on the leg.

    I have been riding for about 5 yrs. I consider myself a weekend warrior, and go only once or twice a month at most. It isn't that easy bec. I live right in the heart of Manhattan and it's a pain to drive outside the city to go ride. But I do it enough and have gotten decent at it. Aust95 is lucky in that LW is right in his backyard. I am definitely gonna dial it back a few notches now. Not gonna do risky stuff. Putting my family thru this has been torturous to them. Wife now taking care of both the toddler and me. She isn't very happy about it (!)

    LW is not for me. My bike (2005 Rocky Mountain Slayer 70) isn't optimal for that terrain. In the end, it's about the rider, not the bike, but I still feel that a slacker frame would be better suited for LW. My Slayer was considered AM back when it was released but it's totally XC now when u compare it to the AM bikes that are being marketed today.

    I unfortunately cannot ride again when I go up to Boston. My Mom (who lives in Chelmsford) and my wife would kill me. I wouldn't mind going to Great Brook Farm in Carlisle or maybe even Harold Parker in Methuen, but LW. . . no way. That places just terrifies me now. Can't get any flow there anyways bec. the drops always require me to get off my bike. A 70 degree head tube angle will do that ya (!)

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    hey, it's been a long 5 wks for you and no one else knows all the pain you went through other than yourself. We've seen what it did to your family and I agree with kubaner that it's still a low time for you. But...

    I have to tell you that you started biking 2 to 3 days a week this fall and went out to Blue Mtn and you got a lot more experienced. Everyone has to start somewhere. We already had 2 good rides in LW even though you were shellshocked after the last one. The roller that you did that brought all of this wasn't a big deal like you said (and you already decided that when we dropped the seat low, that was what set you up), so...this could have happened anywhere...what if you were alone at Blue? You'd have to combat crawl yourself out for a mile!

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    that sucks man, one of my riding buddies is out until this time next year. he went to get his legs checked out because they had been hurting. to make a long story short he had so may stress fractures in his legs the doctors stopped counting. they then told him if he rides they will get way worse and he wont ever be able to ride again.
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    yeah, clearly I have alot to process during this time off. I won't give up mtn biking although admittedly the thought did cross my mind. Not bec. I love it any less, only bec. I'd sacrifice it for the family. But then again they probably wouldn't want me to completely give up something I'm passionate about. I guess the compromise is that I don't need to do anything risky if I don't have to. I won't want to conquer that drop or rock next time I go riding. Still gonna goto Blue and do the regular stuff I do there (I'm comfortable there since I'm so familiar with the terrain now).

    Slowly regaining strength. Lower legs, esp. right leg, very atrophied. Funny comparing thighs side by side and seeing the difference. Don't even want to compare calves, haha! Paul came down this weekend and made me some great traditional Chinese bone healing herbal soup.

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    wow...what a thread. Just got finished reading. I hope the light at the end of the tunnel is visible at this point. Ordeals like this test you. Best wishes on your continued road back to health.

    I'm 40, just married, so it's interesting to read this given your station in life (though we don't have any kids yet). I just ditched my Specialized XC Comp for a Spesh Enduro Comp (all mountain 6 inch travel), as i've been doing more gnarly downhill at Killington and even Highland in NH - and something like your story gives you pause as to whether, at my age, i should be getting *more* aggresive with my biking, and not *less*...hmmm...(though i will say, i didn't get my all mountain set-up to do big drops - i just like to bomb down descents comfortably and with a stable rig)

    Let us know how rehab goes...

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    Once u have kids u may think differently about bombing down gnarly terrain, hehe.

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    hope you're buddies doing well my friend broke his tib and fib in sept he just got of the crutches a week ago.. atleast he did this a the end of the season depending on the recovery/age he might be back for the spring. its injuries like these that linger in the back of my mind. hope he does well

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    still getting better. Much more mobile now, can get around on crutches alot better than before. Two more months of non weight bearing crutches. Still sorta seems far off but at least there is light at the end of tunnel.

    Miss biking alot. Right now, worried about getting full range of motion back. My achilles feels very very right and short, and I can barely point my toes towards my face. Gonna need alot of physical therapy.

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    I mean achilles feels very TIGHT!

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    Full weight bearing now for a month. Walk with slight limp, gets worse at end of day. Can't run at all. Biked several times on my fixie. No mtb yet. Sorta scared still. Happy to be walking again though. The last few months were truly a dark period in my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsyteng
    Full weight bearing now for a month. Walk with slight limp, gets worse at end of day. Can't run at all. Biked several times on my fixie. No mtb yet. Sorta scared still. Happy to be walking again though. The last few months were truly a dark period in my life.
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    Great news, keep it up.

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    Good to hear you're beyond the gloom. I bet it got pretty bad, it did for me. You'll get over the anxiety of doing it again (injury) once you start riding again. As for the limp, just swing your hand behind your ass like George Jefferson and people will think you're connected. To who, I don't know, but neither will they.

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    Not to give you flashbacks or anything, but was this the offending rock?
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    Jsyteng,
    I just reacquainted myself with this thread. I am glad you're back in the saddle. I wish you courage and patience with yourself. This whole ordeal must have been very traumatic in ways I can only imagine. Thank you for updating.

    Kubaner - that pic is just... just... horrific. The one of your leg, not the LW rock

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    Haha, that is not the rock. . it's actually this one. . . wasn't even that bad, which makes it all the more ironic.


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    Jsyteng, so glad you're seeing the end of a painful 4 month struggle. By keeping up your determination, you'll get back a lot of your strength.

    kubaner, that rock lies shortly before the rock picture posted by jsyteng. It's the same trail, so close.
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    Jsyteng, nasty pick of a nasty injury. Glad to hear you are on the road to recovery. I had a crash with a broken shoulder last year (truly nothing compared to your ordeal), which definitely shook me up. I've had some of my best rides since then, but as a 38 yr-old father and seeing the toll it took on my family, I definitely find myself wondering whether I'm being selfish doing this sport which I have loved for many years. That said, I love it and still get excited every time I walk into a bike shop or am around bikes, so I don't think I can stop.

    Not that this is the forum for it, but I'm also considering some basic body armor - does anyone know of any that is good for XC riding (or of a forum for same)?

    Good luck with your further recovery and to getting out on the trails soon. Thank you for sharing your story - what a thread that we can all relate to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsyteng View Post
    Full weight bearing now for a month. Walk with slight limp, gets worse at end of day. Can't run at all. Biked several times on my fixie. No mtb yet. Sorta scared still. Happy to be walking again though. The last few months were truly a dark period in my life.
    Came across this thread....just read the whole thing. I ride LW with Kubaner a lot. How are things going now jsyteng? That was quite an ordeal. Still riding? Running?

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    Alot has happened since . . .

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    Came across this thread....just read the whole thing. I ride LW with Kubaner a lot. How are things going now jsyteng? That was quite an ordeal. Still riding? Running?
    Aust95 made me aware there was an update to this thread.

    I'm doing well, thanks for asking. It's been a long time.

    The quick update on my end is that I've now moved up to Boston and have been living in Newton for the last several months. I came up here for a great job opportunity and decided to leave NYC. Wasn't the easiest decision but knew deep in my heart it was best for my family (I now have 2 kids).

    I've only ridden mtb once since the accident. It was in at Graham Hills Park in Westchester County, NY. . . probably back in 2011 (2 yrs after the accident). It was tough to psychologically get myself back on the bike. I did, however, continue to ride my fixie frequently in NYC -- as soon as I was able -- and still do to this day up in Boston.

    I guess you say I'm at about 80 - 85% back to normal. It can still be painful when I run. I don't have problems walking, sprinting for short distances, or snowboarding (thank the LORD). Sometimes the pain creeps back in. All my hardware is still in my leg. Too risky to operate given the severity of the incisions (ortho strongly recommended against removing hardware, since there is so little tissue down in the ankle area).

    I'm grateful in some ways to the experience, strange as it sounds. It matured me greatly. I won't bore you with the details, but suffice it to say suffering does make a man stronger. It was by far one of the lowest points in my life (some may recall the injury happened during a long bout of unemployment).

    I spent thousands of $ out of my own pocket once COBRA expired and my physical therapy sessions ran out. I hired a personal trainer who specialized in injury rehab. The best decision I ever made. If I hadn't done it, I'd probably still be walking today with a limp. The sessions were super painful but I managed to tough it out. Grew some chest hairs for sure.

    In a couple of months we move to Concord, which I'm very much looking forward to. I do look fwd to hopping back on the mtb bike at some point, but it'll all be XC and easygoing, flowy terrain from here on out. No more Lynn Woods for me! Will check out Great Brook Farm and Estabrook Woods instead.

    thanks for reading, everybody.

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    Also Russell mill is close by.

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    zomg concord is awesome..lived in Acton 6 years, know all the secrets

    a) estabrook woods, find all the trails in there. the northern ones
    spit you close to both carlise town hall trails or davis corridor/ice cream trail/great brook trails with light road hops

    there are also some legal and top secret (local stash) you can get to acton from estabrook easily, and ride some huge meadows no one knows about

    b) concord rail trail straight to minuteman trail bedford,lexington,arlington,cambridge to davis square somerville 20 miles one way

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    Well, great to hear you are back to activity and have a positive outlook! Russell Mill in Chelmsford may surprise you quite a bit. NEMBA got in there and built amazing flow trails that are not difficult, but extremely fun. This place may actually be the ticket for your new MTB LIFE. Are you originally from Chelmsford?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
    zomg concord is awesome..lived in Acton 6 years, know all the secrets
    What are the carlisle town hall trails? Thanks.

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    Good to here if you want to get back into things come on over to the friendly fells it is a lot tamer, or just ride up and down the Charles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dundundata View Post
    Good to here if you want to get back into things come on over to the friendly fells it is a lot tamer, or just ride up and down the Charles.
    Been living in Concord for 2 months now. Only last week decided to pick up the mtb bike again and start exploring. Double and single track right BEHIND MY HOUSE (Thoreau Hills). Also explored connecting trails around Thoreau Club into Maynard. Yesterday went to Great Meadows and took a side singletrack around some wetlands to the cemetery. Seems like there is much much more to see in the area. VERY excited!

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