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    Good luck,man. Hope you get back on the trails asap.

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    Once I fully recover I should reward myself with a Turner Spot hehe!

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    We're all thinking about you here in forums. Lets not get carried away with the Turner Spot in front of your wife, she might overreact and lay down the law on ya man!! Women can't live with em can't live without em? Stay warm up there in NY, it's about 55 or 60 here in Alabama. Raining though. No riding today. Get well and see ya on the trail soon.

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    Blue Mountain is about as close to LW as you can get around NYC. Definitely some crazy stuff in there too. Both crazy awesome places to ride.

    Hope you have a speedy recovery.

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    Blue is amazing. Been going there tons since I picked up mtb several yrs ago.

    I'm in the surgery prep room now at NYU hospital. Going under in 15 min!

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    Here's a little Tib/Fib surgery for you. With a dose of compartment syndrome thrown in for good measure.
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    Let me try that again

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    Kubaner, your picture didn't show. You had compartment syndrome?! Where were you treated? You can lose your leg if that happens.
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    Here's a little Tib/Fib surgery for you. With a dose of compartment syndrome thrown in for good measure.
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    Looks like you had a proximal or midshaft tibfib fracture. Very pretty. How'd it happen?
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    Man vs. tree.
    Snowboarding off trail at Wildcat.
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    jsyteng's fracture is a pretty bad comminuted fracture. We're wondering how long his rehab will be and how long until he's riding again. He went in for surgery today. I figured if it's a few months, maybe he'll be able to ride in April.

    kubaner, how long was recovery? It looks like they stitched up your knee in that picture.

    By the way, I broke my ankle 7 weeks ago in LW. It was only a hairline fracture so I was able to get back on the bike relatively soon.
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    My break was about the same. A few pieces floating around inside. I had an intramedullary rod put in the night of the break but ended up with compartment syndrome. I think the doctor and nursing staff got tired of hearing me complain about the pain so they stuck me in the ICU in Conway. It took my wife pulling a Tazmanian Devil on them to get them to ship me to Maine Med where they took me seriously and tested me for something no one in Conway thought of. I spent the next month in the hospital and had 8 surgeries. Another one 6 months later to transfer tendons from the outside of my foot to the top so I would no longer have foot drop and one more a couple of years ago to re-pin my toes straight and lengthen my achilles tendon. My understanding was, that had everything gone as it should have, I would have been able to bear weight in 6-8 weeks and ski/bike in 12 or so. Didn't happen. I was on crutches for 4 months and not much better for the next 3 til my next surgery. Basically ate up a year of my life. Luckily it doesn't hamper my biking except not being able to clip out of my left pedal at all. So jsyteng should be looking good in a few months. If they did a rod. Those staples on my knee were from where the rod was inserted. If he has a cast he'll be out for like 6 months. Good luck to him. Make sure you keep him occupied so he doesn't get too bored, lonely and depressed. There's nothing cool about a perc'd out thirty year old crying on his english muffin.

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    I just about lost it looking at that pic

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    Kubaner, that's quite the experience. Sounds like hell for a year! I'm glad you're back on the bike.

    My buddy jsyteng is 2 days after surgery at NYU medical center. From what I'm told, they put some hardware into the leg to fix it and was planning on discharging him yesterday. His pain, however, has been excruciating so anethesia had to get involved and now he's on IV fentanyl because morphine and the other meds didn't work. They basically had to put him partway under to control his pain. His wife says he sometimes half wakes up and asks for me. Well, I'm in Boston and he's in NYC...he's really out of it.
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    Happy turkey day folks!

    I am in day 4 at NYU hospital. Surgery went well, but pain was not contained until this morning. It was impossible for to type otherwise I wouldve updated thread sooner

    basically during the two weeks after the surgery, and before the surgery I had built up an incredie tolerance to painkillers. After surgery it seemed like nothing worked. Even the anathesia team was stumped. At its worst I was being iv'd a constant stream of Dilaudid.

    The fracture blisters have subsided, which I'm thankful for. The most painful part is when I change my dressing; the gauze still sticks to my skin and hurts like he'll. But least ive beem operated on and road to recovery.

    Might be discharged tommorow : -)

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    Good News J!

    PS I was riding LW the day of your accident. They had just put you in the ambulance when I rode up. I met Austin, and we talked for a bit. His face told the story.

    Get well soon,

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    I am now home. Accepting the fact that I am completely bedridden for awhile has been a real challenge.

    The meds are wreaking havoc with my body. Hot flashes to cold chills one minute to the next. Two long incisions along lower shin. Post op swelling is terribly painful. Cast feels like a ton, and in the few moments that I get around, I am immediately winded and wiped out.

    I'll post some more thoughts about the future of mtb, and how it will fit in my life, sometime soon. Right now I know that as a 39yr old father, I won't be taking the same risks again.

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    Just checking in jsyteng. Hopefully you're feeling a little better. The one thing I remember about the homecoming and effects from the meds was walking ten feet only to stop for a couple minutes and then another ten and then another ten until I got to the bathroom and had to force a cement bud can out of my ass. That and that there is not much on at 3:30 in the morning. I basically had the same med-ley that you did and can concur that they screw you up bad. Watch what you eat too. I went into the hospital at 213lbs and came out at 178lbs 30 days later. When you stop moving and supporting your weight your legs shrivel up like old green beans. So while a little weight loss isn't that bad, you don't want to be swapping muscle for fat by eating ice cream for breakfast. Stick to the hospital type food, plain chicken and veggies, and you'll snap back a lot quicker.
    And be sure to leave the staples in as long or longer than they say. The swelling takes forever to go down and my leg basically ripped open after they pulled the staples. Should have stayed in another two weeks if you ask me. I'm sure your as bored as bored gets so maybe my 2 cents will at least occupy you for a couple minutes. Good luck again with the recovery.

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    hey kubaner, thanks for checking in. I am getting better. The first week when I got home was the worst, could feel the depression setting in immediately. Being bedridden and required to elevate leg above heart was a real drag. Most of the time I had to lay my back flat against the bed and just stare at the frickin' ceiling. Thankfully I have an iphone, which helped while away the time. Being laid up in this way is a major setback to my job search, too.

    I weaned off the meds pretty quickly. I couldn't take the side effects anymore, esp. the constipation (cement bud can, LOL). My mood swings were outta control and I was breaking down alot. Insomnia is still here, though. I had my follow up appt with the ortho 2 days ago and had my sutures removed, and am no longer required to elevate my leg all the time since the swelling has gone down. I am down 20 lbs, to 180 lbs. I actually sorta like being leaner and am gonna try and stay around this weight. I have completely cut cafffiene, alcohol, and smoking out of my life. I definitely hope to keep the latter out forever.

    I have been taking this vitamin called Arth-X which is supposed to help bones heal better. Drinking lotsa fancy antioxidant shakes that my wife is learning to make from the local health food store.

    I have been playing lots of online Street Fighter on Xbox 360. I do miss biking alot, both mtb and my fixie.

    Slowly regaining strength and getting around on crutches better. My legs have definitely shriveled though, as you say.

    here is the most recent xray: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...9&id=758526659

    I know this is early but I am really worried how I am gonna feel once I hop back on my mtn bike again. I am psychologically affected by my accident and am probably gonna be scared at first, even on an easy fire road. Well, it's several months away, at least. I'm pretty bummed that this is gonna be the 2nd year in a row I'll be missing snowboarding (last winter was when the baby was born).

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    FYI, found out the fractures were much worse than originally thought. Fibula was fractured into many pieces (too many to count, according to ortho). Spiral fractured extended down into ankle and displaced a bone there as well. Just a nightmare overall. But nothing will ever compare to your compartment syndrome!

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    One of my Buddies triped over a flower pot in front of a store and did a spiral fracture into the shoulder socket. OOOOuch!!!!! These weird things can happen. Hang in there Dude it'll get better. Nothing more depressing than being down for a while. Wish I had some words of wisdom.

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    Good to hear you're staying on top of things. It'll make it that much easier once you start moving around a little more to get back to your old self. As far as being nervous about riding again, I'm sure you'll be fine. You're probably at the lowest point as far as confidence right now. Once you start riding again you'll snap out of it. You might wear more pads and think twice about this or that, but if you live for riding like most of us, it'll be hard to get away from it. Five years ago, our whole group was dropping stuff and downhilling all the time, now we've all kind of gone back to climbing and technical stuff. Granted, it is in Lynn woods, so there is still the chance someone will get hurt cause even the single track is littered with three and four foot drops but once your confidence is back you'll be fine. Nice xray too, I may have you beat for gore but you definitely have more hardware than me. I'm sure I'll bump in to Aust95 in the woods. We'll be sure to go for a ride next time you come up to Lynn.

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    thanks for the encouragement. Yeah, low confidence bec. I crashed on something I usually can do with my eyes closed. Aust95 has the picture of the rock on which I took the spill. Wasn't even that violent a crash in hindsight. It just all came down on the leg.

    I have been riding for about 5 yrs. I consider myself a weekend warrior, and go only once or twice a month at most. It isn't that easy bec. I live right in the heart of Manhattan and it's a pain to drive outside the city to go ride. But I do it enough and have gotten decent at it. Aust95 is lucky in that LW is right in his backyard. I am definitely gonna dial it back a few notches now. Not gonna do risky stuff. Putting my family thru this has been torturous to them. Wife now taking care of both the toddler and me. She isn't very happy about it (!)

    LW is not for me. My bike (2005 Rocky Mountain Slayer 70) isn't optimal for that terrain. In the end, it's about the rider, not the bike, but I still feel that a slacker frame would be better suited for LW. My Slayer was considered AM back when it was released but it's totally XC now when u compare it to the AM bikes that are being marketed today.

    I unfortunately cannot ride again when I go up to Boston. My Mom (who lives in Chelmsford) and my wife would kill me. I wouldn't mind going to Great Brook Farm in Carlisle or maybe even Harold Parker in Methuen, but LW. . . no way. That places just terrifies me now. Can't get any flow there anyways bec. the drops always require me to get off my bike. A 70 degree head tube angle will do that ya (!)

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    hey, it's been a long 5 wks for you and no one else knows all the pain you went through other than yourself. We've seen what it did to your family and I agree with kubaner that it's still a low time for you. But...

    I have to tell you that you started biking 2 to 3 days a week this fall and went out to Blue Mtn and you got a lot more experienced. Everyone has to start somewhere. We already had 2 good rides in LW even though you were shellshocked after the last one. The roller that you did that brought all of this wasn't a big deal like you said (and you already decided that when we dropped the seat low, that was what set you up), so...this could have happened anywhere...what if you were alone at Blue? You'd have to combat crawl yourself out for a mile!

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    that sucks man, one of my riding buddies is out until this time next year. he went to get his legs checked out because they had been hurting. to make a long story short he had so may stress fractures in his legs the doctors stopped counting. they then told him if he rides they will get way worse and he wont ever be able to ride again.
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    yeah, clearly I have alot to process during this time off. I won't give up mtn biking although admittedly the thought did cross my mind. Not bec. I love it any less, only bec. I'd sacrifice it for the family. But then again they probably wouldn't want me to completely give up something I'm passionate about. I guess the compromise is that I don't need to do anything risky if I don't have to. I won't want to conquer that drop or rock next time I go riding. Still gonna goto Blue and do the regular stuff I do there (I'm comfortable there since I'm so familiar with the terrain now).

    Slowly regaining strength. Lower legs, esp. right leg, very atrophied. Funny comparing thighs side by side and seeing the difference. Don't even want to compare calves, haha! Paul came down this weekend and made me some great traditional Chinese bone healing herbal soup.

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    wow...what a thread. Just got finished reading. I hope the light at the end of the tunnel is visible at this point. Ordeals like this test you. Best wishes on your continued road back to health.

    I'm 40, just married, so it's interesting to read this given your station in life (though we don't have any kids yet). I just ditched my Specialized XC Comp for a Spesh Enduro Comp (all mountain 6 inch travel), as i've been doing more gnarly downhill at Killington and even Highland in NH - and something like your story gives you pause as to whether, at my age, i should be getting *more* aggresive with my biking, and not *less*...hmmm...(though i will say, i didn't get my all mountain set-up to do big drops - i just like to bomb down descents comfortably and with a stable rig)

    Let us know how rehab goes...

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    Once u have kids u may think differently about bombing down gnarly terrain, hehe.

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    hope you're buddies doing well my friend broke his tib and fib in sept he just got of the crutches a week ago.. atleast he did this a the end of the season depending on the recovery/age he might be back for the spring. its injuries like these that linger in the back of my mind. hope he does well

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    still getting better. Much more mobile now, can get around on crutches alot better than before. Two more months of non weight bearing crutches. Still sorta seems far off but at least there is light at the end of tunnel.

    Miss biking alot. Right now, worried about getting full range of motion back. My achilles feels very very right and short, and I can barely point my toes towards my face. Gonna need alot of physical therapy.

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    I mean achilles feels very TIGHT!

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    Full weight bearing now for a month. Walk with slight limp, gets worse at end of day. Can't run at all. Biked several times on my fixie. No mtb yet. Sorta scared still. Happy to be walking again though. The last few months were truly a dark period in my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsyteng
    Full weight bearing now for a month. Walk with slight limp, gets worse at end of day. Can't run at all. Biked several times on my fixie. No mtb yet. Sorta scared still. Happy to be walking again though. The last few months were truly a dark period in my life.
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    Great news, keep it up.
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    Good to hear you're beyond the gloom. I bet it got pretty bad, it did for me. You'll get over the anxiety of doing it again (injury) once you start riding again. As for the limp, just swing your hand behind your ass like George Jefferson and people will think you're connected. To who, I don't know, but neither will they.

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    Not to give you flashbacks or anything, but was this the offending rock?
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    Jsyteng,
    I just reacquainted myself with this thread. I am glad you're back in the saddle. I wish you courage and patience with yourself. This whole ordeal must have been very traumatic in ways I can only imagine. Thank you for updating.

    Kubaner - that pic is just... just... horrific. The one of your leg, not the LW rock

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    Haha, that is not the rock. . it's actually this one. . . wasn't even that bad, which makes it all the more ironic.


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    FYI, here is a recent x-ray:


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    Jsyteng, so glad you're seeing the end of a painful 4 month struggle. By keeping up your determination, you'll get back a lot of your strength.

    kubaner, that rock lies shortly before the rock picture posted by jsyteng. It's the same trail, so close.
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    Jsyteng, nasty pick of a nasty injury. Glad to hear you are on the road to recovery. I had a crash with a broken shoulder last year (truly nothing compared to your ordeal), which definitely shook me up. I've had some of my best rides since then, but as a 38 yr-old father and seeing the toll it took on my family, I definitely find myself wondering whether I'm being selfish doing this sport which I have loved for many years. That said, I love it and still get excited every time I walk into a bike shop or am around bikes, so I don't think I can stop.

    Not that this is the forum for it, but I'm also considering some basic body armor - does anyone know of any that is good for XC riding (or of a forum for same)?

    Good luck with your further recovery and to getting out on the trails soon. Thank you for sharing your story - what a thread that we can all relate to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsyteng View Post
    Full weight bearing now for a month. Walk with slight limp, gets worse at end of day. Can't run at all. Biked several times on my fixie. No mtb yet. Sorta scared still. Happy to be walking again though. The last few months were truly a dark period in my life.
    Came across this thread....just read the whole thing. I ride LW with Kubaner a lot. How are things going now jsyteng? That was quite an ordeal. Still riding? Running?

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    Alot has happened since . . .

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    Came across this thread....just read the whole thing. I ride LW with Kubaner a lot. How are things going now jsyteng? That was quite an ordeal. Still riding? Running?
    Aust95 made me aware there was an update to this thread.

    I'm doing well, thanks for asking. It's been a long time.

    The quick update on my end is that I've now moved up to Boston and have been living in Newton for the last several months. I came up here for a great job opportunity and decided to leave NYC. Wasn't the easiest decision but knew deep in my heart it was best for my family (I now have 2 kids).

    I've only ridden mtb once since the accident. It was in at Graham Hills Park in Westchester County, NY. . . probably back in 2011 (2 yrs after the accident). It was tough to psychologically get myself back on the bike. I did, however, continue to ride my fixie frequently in NYC -- as soon as I was able -- and still do to this day up in Boston.

    I guess you say I'm at about 80 - 85% back to normal. It can still be painful when I run. I don't have problems walking, sprinting for short distances, or snowboarding (thank the LORD). Sometimes the pain creeps back in. All my hardware is still in my leg. Too risky to operate given the severity of the incisions (ortho strongly recommended against removing hardware, since there is so little tissue down in the ankle area).

    I'm grateful in some ways to the experience, strange as it sounds. It matured me greatly. I won't bore you with the details, but suffice it to say suffering does make a man stronger. It was by far one of the lowest points in my life (some may recall the injury happened during a long bout of unemployment).

    I spent thousands of $ out of my own pocket once COBRA expired and my physical therapy sessions ran out. I hired a personal trainer who specialized in injury rehab. The best decision I ever made. If I hadn't done it, I'd probably still be walking today with a limp. The sessions were super painful but I managed to tough it out. Grew some chest hairs for sure.

    In a couple of months we move to Concord, which I'm very much looking forward to. I do look fwd to hopping back on the mtb bike at some point, but it'll all be XC and easygoing, flowy terrain from here on out. No more Lynn Woods for me! Will check out Great Brook Farm and Estabrook Woods instead.

    thanks for reading, everybody.

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    Also Russell mill is close by.

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    zomg concord is awesome..lived in Acton 6 years, know all the secrets

    a) estabrook woods, find all the trails in there. the northern ones
    spit you close to both carlise town hall trails or davis corridor/ice cream trail/great brook trails with light road hops

    there are also some legal and top secret (local stash) you can get to acton from estabrook easily, and ride some huge meadows no one knows about

    b) concord rail trail straight to minuteman trail bedford,lexington,arlington,cambridge to davis square somerville 20 miles one way

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    Well, great to hear you are back to activity and have a positive outlook! Russell Mill in Chelmsford may surprise you quite a bit. NEMBA got in there and built amazing flow trails that are not difficult, but extremely fun. This place may actually be the ticket for your new MTB LIFE. Are you originally from Chelmsford?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
    zomg concord is awesome..lived in Acton 6 years, know all the secrets
    What are the carlisle town hall trails? Thanks.

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    Good to here if you want to get back into things come on over to the friendly fells it is a lot tamer, or just ride up and down the Charles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dundundata View Post
    Good to here if you want to get back into things come on over to the friendly fells it is a lot tamer, or just ride up and down the Charles.
    Been living in Concord for 2 months now. Only last week decided to pick up the mtb bike again and start exploring. Double and single track right BEHIND MY HOUSE (Thoreau Hills). Also explored connecting trails around Thoreau Club into Maynard. Yesterday went to Great Meadows and took a side singletrack around some wetlands to the cemetery. Seems like there is much much more to see in the area. VERY excited!

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