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    Charlemont Trails Whole Enchilada Endurance Event

    This Saturday - October 20th - 3 rides of 6, 4 or 2 hours.

    Loops will be marked and guides will be leading each ride. Rides leave the Warfield House at 8:30, 10 and noon.

    After party at the warfield house with a-la-carte dining and beverages.

    Weather is looking favorable and the trails are in dang good shape - blown clear and pretty dry in spite of the recent rains.

    A little rain on friday isn't going to impact the riding.

    Register at https://www.bikereg.com/Net/17437 or onsite.

    All proceeds go to paying our map-maker and for trail bridge materials.

    Hope to see you all there!

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    Since it is the first weekend of Bow hunting season and we'll be on mostly non-posted private lands - stay in the groups or wear orange! I'll have a few of the new Orange NEMBA jerseys for sale at registration...
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    Hey, H

    What is the agenda for the 12pm ride?? It looks like that is the one I will be joining.

    Liam

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    Current plan for the Noon (2 hour) ride is to hit most of the North East quadrant's trails. Warfield to Brook Rd, to High Meadow, NoName, Riddel Ridge, Druid Ridge, Riddell Rd, Upper Red Zone, Game Trail, Sweet 16, Lower Red Zone, Rice Brook and back to Warfield. We'll add or subtract based on the inclination of the group.

    We've postponed the event until Sunday due to the heavy rains today - too wet to finish prepping the trails!

    See you all Sunday.
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    I wish I had a week notice on this... Would've loved to join.
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    Paul, like PV NEMBA and or Charlemont Trails on Facebook.... We won't pass you by then!
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    I didn't register online... Can I show up and ride if I pay at the trailhead?

    And how are the trails? Definitely dual suspension at a weight penalty (more AM) or - certainly worthy of rigid consideration for the uphills (XC)?

    How do they compare to Kingdom Trails? (I rode those DS but would have considered them for rigid for the uphills around Troll Stroll and Tap'n Die - the downhills weren't overly technical and getting back uphill would have been nicer with a lighter bike.)
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    Lots of climbing, and onsite registration is ok. Rigid will be ok or short travel dually, if you have big tires... Love my steel 29er hard tail or fatbike up there.

    Trails are newish, hand built and rugged (roots and rock), so the rigid might give your wrists/back a workout - only you know for sure. Which length ride?
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    The second Annual Whole Enchilada will be on Saturday November 9th 2013. Don't miss out this year. http://www.bikereg.com/cts-whole-enchilada-2013
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    Ok, H I am now officially in Training for that ride. I've dropped the weight and picked up the speed, now I need to start to find time to do 'piles of miles!"

    Should be great!

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    Super interested. Have been out of the saddle for the last month and riding before that was a bit minimal. Got a new steed and its treating me well. SS running 32x18 now, considering dropping to 32x20. some people doubt SS but I've made it work everywhere I go, so think I'll survive this.

    Mainly wondering what pace is? I can do 6+ hours at KT and over 30 miles but its buff and we aren't killing it. I'm considering the 4 hour tour but want to know what you'll be looking at for distance.

    Oh, and can a young guy camp somewhere without making anyone mad?

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    Hado will answer the questions about local camping (maybe the cabins at Zoar?)

    Anyway,

    Whole enchilada at CTS is way more demanding and rigorous than 30 miles at KT (as is the 4 hour option).

    Not doubting your ability to do it either, just saying. 30 miles at KT is not so taxing (which is, after all, a big part of the charm of KT).

    SS-lot's of folks around here ride them and can do the whole ride on them. Though, 32x18 in Western, MA can get a little Masochistic (32x20,21, or even 22 would be more fun-but everybody has different limits, I suspect you know your own). One pretty strong rider in these parts keeps a 32x25 gearing for the hilly rides and he loves it.

    I think only 3 people finished the true 'whole enchilada ride' last year. Most opted four the 4 hour ride (or ended up on it anyway).

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    I agree, most New England riding is nothing like the buff and flowly trails on KT. I know I couldn't do the 6 hour tour but I was hoping I might be able to make the 4 work if I'll be headed out there.

    I have time to keep riding and I plan to ear down to 32x20 anyway, maybe I'll look at something lower out there.

    Thanks for the tips!

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    Run a 32x22 or 32x23......for realz. You'll either be climbing or screaming down hill, nothing flat to speak of.

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    The best bet for camping is probably at Mohawk State Forest/Mohawk Park just west of town. Zoar has a few tent sites, call them at Zoar Outdoor Adventure Resort (office 800 532-7483) for availability.

    What Superb and Pulse said is accurate intel. I'm not a SS guy so I'll just say that most of the group I ride with are awfully tempted to drop to the Granny at least occasionally on the climbs. Everything can be pushed with a bigger gear, but... last year the 4 hour tour was just over 5 hours elapsed, 4 hour ride time, and about 2/3 of that time is climbing. The closer to 1:1 you get the better you're day will be.
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    Charlemont Trails Whole Enchilada Endurance Event

    I did the soup to nuts ride last year on a 32x22 . Worked well. If you're not used to long rides a 32x23, as Pulse suggested, is a good choice. It's mostly up or down and almost no spinning flats.

    Ill buy a beer for each SSer that completes the long ride .
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    Charlemont Trails Whole Enchilada Endurance Event

    For the record, Pistol Pete had to bail on the WE option last year because he destroyed a hub. I heard him *****ing about 1/4 mile away and thought they were excuses, but low and behold his wheel failed. I expect him to make up for it this year
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    This year's information!
    Charlemont Trails Whole Enchilada Endurance Event-whole-enchilada-poster-2013-final.jpg

    See you all there, going to be a great time.

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    Awesome info guys, am talking to friends back in CT and making plans to meet up. I'll look at getting a 22T cog for the ride, sadly adin I'm only looking at the 4 hour tour. And nice heads up on the camping, planning to get some hiking in on Greylock Sunday.

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    most will find the 4 hour ride plenty challenging. H, does self-guided mean there will be arrowed loops??

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    I took it to mean I get handed a map and the trails would be arrowed. Meaning I could dip out pre-4 hours if I felt it.

    I'm just excited to ride somewhere new.

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    We'll be arrowing loops, probably will be a mix of paper arrows from NEMBA MBAS events and some semi-permanent plastic blazes. There will be designated leaders to all three rides, but they won't necessarily wait for everyone. If someone has a significant mechanical, is substantially faster, or can't hang with the plurality of the group, they'll need to follow the arrows and map.

    There are a few new sections that most won't have ridden before.
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    Sounds perfect. Looking forward to it.

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    I'm really interested in this ride. I'm trying to figure out which loop I'd like to try, do you have rough distances for the various loops?

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    Re: Charlemont Trails Whole Enchilada Endurance Event

    Time is the best measure of charlemont rides. Figure on 4-5 mph average.

    Last year the Habenero was around 28 miles per someone's GPS.
    They were out for about 7 hours.

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