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    Batchelor/Earl's?

    Anybody know the trail conditions at Batchelor/Earl's? I rode Sawmill last weekend and it was mostly foot-printed snow and ice. The snow was firm enough to ride on (fatbike) but the footprints were so bumpy to render it un-rideable. I imagine the entrances to Batch/Earls would be similar; wonder how things are deeper in.

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    earls still needs time. Upper trails still have snow. lower trails some are good enough to ride. few spots have good amount of mud. prolly by next week if the weather stays up in the 50's.

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    I went there last Saturday and barely even attempted to ride. I ended up walking the bike a lotLots of snow and layers of ice from the snow melt left on the trails. I am going to try to go out there either today or tomorrow. I recently moved here from Maine about a year and a half ago, and I ride alone all the time because I haven't found people to go. I'd love to meet a group to ride with.

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    you tryed earls last saturday or batch?? Chicopee state park isn't bad for flowy xc. not very technical but there are a few logs to ride. your riding today?

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    I went over to earls trails last Saturday and it was practically all snow on lower end, I didnt do a thorough look through but it was enough snow, water, mud, ice for me to not even try. I am going to try going over to earls tomorrow possibly and seeing the conditions now. it seems as though things have dried up a little, and we also got lots of heavy rain which could have eliminated the extra snow/ice.

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    i saw people at batch st the last few days. Don't know how clear that is but its really rocky so it should drain well. Also heard chicopee is pretty dry as of yesterday heard there are debri down on the trail so there is some need of clean up out there.. may try out one of them today to see how conditions are coming along. haven't exercised much this winter so i gotta get my butt in gear for this year.

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    keep me updated, ill keep posting on what i find out as well. I am going crazy i want to go so bad... this winter has been killing me

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    ha. yup it has. got about 7 miles on my new bike lol. but its only a week old so. I see your in the northampton area. I do alot of riding out here as i work out here

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    ya we could meet up sometime, i ride alone often and quite frankly its quite dangerous. I want to ride in b-street but have been afraid that if i happened to get seriously hurt on technical areas then i would be screwed. Saw your new bike, thats the bike i was going to purchase this year but I went with a used on off of pinbike.com. 2013 Giant Trance 1 29er. How do u like your 29er? First time I've used one.

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    i love it. So different than my santa cruz 26". 29ers are like climbing machines! and go over debri so much better. Love the clutched derailleur. and the new version of the rockshox revelation! yeah deff. I have rode batch many times by myself but i have ridden it many times and i have hurt myself while being alone out there. I was thinking of heading there today to check out the conditions and maybe put down a few miles.. i still haven't found and rode all the trails at batch as there are so many i either don't have enough time in the day or i run out of energy. it can be a fun kind of technical.

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    im not very fast but yea we will deffineatly have to get together. I can show you around some time as long as you dont mind someone that is kinda slow and outa shape. Haven't been prepping for riding of winter lol.

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    You are probably faster than I am right now... just stay in touch we can make something work out probably.

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    i added you as a friend on mtbr. Yeah ill try and get some plans rolling. Maybe i can get someone else to come with us make it a small group ride.

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    Batchelor/Earl's?

    Check batch out today I would say 90% of Rollercoaster is good. Some soft spots and some mud where people decided to mud boy the trail instead of walking your bike around. Tested my new stumpjumper and broke it in the same day. Rear free hub pawpaw are shot after 8 miles on the bike. Sigh back to the bike shop it goes. Hope I get a demo

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    wow...what a bummer. Where did you purchase the bike

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    I am going to go over to earls tomorrow to see how it is

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    Batchelor/Earl's?

    Family bike in agawam. Going tomorrow am to drop it off

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    Batchelor/Earl's?

    Awesome!!!! I'll have to show you around b street to show you he solo loop I do. So you can at least venture out to batch

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    Batchelor/Earl's?

    By yourself and be ok. Btw I am outa shape lmao!!! Wow went from 1000ft very climbing and being spent to 300ft

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    Batchelor/Earl's?

    Bike is fixed family bike in agawam are awesome!!! Picking it up tomorrow morning and riding with a co worker!!! So pumped!!!

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    Good to hear. Went over to earls trails yesterday. The trails are fine, some soft spots and tiny amounts of snow, but after a few days it will be even better. It was good to be out there and I will definitely be going again real soon.

    Hopefully we can meet up soon and ride.

    P.S. wayyyy out of shape over here....hills were killing me.

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    Batchelor/Earl's?

    Hahah rode at Chicopee today!! 9 miles legs are beat. Awesome to hear you got out there!!! Earls is a killer first few rides of the year. Just so much very to climb lol

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    ya tons of climbing. I really need to start riding to other places, since moving here I have only really learned some of earls trails, only ridden batch once and I was so totally lost I had no idea how I even made it home. It was cool though. I definitely need to learn te trails.

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    Batchelor/Earl's?

    Earls takes quite awhile to learn because there are just so many trails and so many intersections. I'm pretty sure there are still a few trails I haven't ridden. I don't know all the names lol but I know which ones I like. Batch is real hard to navigate. Chicopee state park is a good little training area. Robinson in Agawam is awesome super flows! I've done some good 16 mile rides there and more

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    Batchelor/Earl's?

    Do you have strata?

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    Batchelor/Earl's?

    Pm me your strava name if you have it

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    Strava?

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    rode earls sunday afternoon, definitely needs trail work in some areas, had to go around a few trees and there are so many leaves that its hard to navigate trails and see rocks/roots you're gonna hit. All in good fun though, it was good to be out there.

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    Batchelor/Earl's?

    Went to robinson a with my fiancé Sunday which was awesome she did 7 miles which is amazing considering this is her 3rd time out

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    Batchelor/Earl's?

    Ever riding with me. Did some riding in town yesterday. Need to take today off because I have been abusing my muscles and not giving them heal time from all the riding. Got 45 miles on the stumpy and I must say I absolutely love 29ers and love my specialiZed. It turns so quick and is so easy to maneuver

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    I have enjoyed the 29er as well. I am curious about the 27.5 though. Let me know if you get a group to ride this weekend I think I am going to have a few days off in a row.

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    ok ill see if i can plan a ride for this weekend. My boss rode one the other day. he bought a khs 27.5 full suspension. He said he noticed that it turns in faster but that was about it. He didn't put alot of time on it but he did say he likes his 29er more.

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    ANy ideas on rides this weekend? Ive been goin out to earls. I rediscovered my incredible trail connections for my loop and realized again how much fun you can have at earls if you do it right.

    I also got on board with the Strava app, I love it. My time was super slow i think due to the fact that some trails had so many leaves I could even walk up the hills.

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    im now realizing I could put this on a PM sorry about

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    Looking for info. I'll be in Amherst tomorrow for work and am looking to do an afternoon ride, I've had it in my mind to hit up the infamous Batchelor/Earl's trails. I've heard Earl's has the flow and Batchelor the gnar. I'd love to have both on my ride.

    Where would you recommend parking/loop suggestions/trail suggestions/etc. so I can hit the best of both worlds for a nice 2-3 hour tour. It looks like I'll end up doing some climbing on the Holyoke Range there. Which is cool, because I live on Cape Cod and climbing is a luxury I don't have much of.

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    In order to get a nice loop with both for 2-3 hours you really need to know the layout; it's not mapped out real well how to cross over.

    I recommend you hit one side, either the perfect bachelor street or the elegant Earls; pick your poison you won't be disappointed in either.

    If you need a map send me a message. I wouldn't mind heading out with you, but I just finished the Stoopid 50 on Sunday and am in recovery mode for a day or two !
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    So parking at the notch tree and trying to venture both ways would be a poor idea? I see where to park for Batchelor. What about Earl's?

    Congratulations on the Stoopid. I went to Penn State, Rothrock is where I learned to ride.

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    It all depends on how fast of a rider you are. By all means you can sample both by parking at the notch, and do both, it's just not well defined to get to bachelor st. if you've never been there.

    I think 2.5hrs in bstreet will provide you with what you are looking for. Try the outter loop; it's the easiest to navigate. From the parking lot, go right and stay right throughout the trail system. I think it's about 15 miles or so, but it's good chunky fun.
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    with a 2-2.5 hour window, I'd recommend parking at the dirt lot on Batchelor St. And riding B-Street exclusively. Earl's is great and all, but B-Street is more unique and trip worthy, and linking the two takes some time.

    B-Street has some flowy trails, too…and over the years some of the 'teeth' have been pulled from the gnarliest trails. It's easier to navigate as well (IMHO).

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    Parking at the notch works for Earls, not so much for Batch. The M and M is no bikes, other connections are on the road.

    Batch used to be much more about tech than it is now, much of the good stuff has been "Flowed" around.

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    B-street it is. I assume the parking is pretty recognizable? Don't see when I'll be back and Cape has plenty of flow so I like to find tech when I can. And it looks like I can get my recommended 2+ hours.

    Real question, where headed south toward the pike do I stop for food and beer after?

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    Actually the "other" connections are mostly trail
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    The parking lot fits about 15 cars or so, so yes you will see it on bachelor st pretty easy. With over 20 miles of trail, you can put in 2+ hours at any ability. Trust me, it's worth the trip.
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    still looking for people to ride with if anyone is interested. I moved here a couple years ago and have only rode on Earls trails through and through. I have been on b-street once but I was totally lost, still fun though.

    I have always ridden alone because I don't know anybody here! lol

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    dfields - I am a teacher and off starting next week, so let me know what ride times are good for you. I will take you on a nice little tour of some of bachelor streets finest
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    Paul and dfields - I'm on the same boat... would love a tour. Also a teacher and off for the summer. Most of my rider friends live and ride in central/southern CT, but I'm all the way up in Enfield and quite close to Holyoke. Rode Mt Tom by myself yesterday, would like to check out Bachelor and/or Earl's. Anyone willing to show me around would be much appreciated!

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    If you guys want I can put together a Friday morning ride?

    say.. 8? Before it get's crazy hot out? Ride time 3-4 hrs or so? 10-20 miles? We can do a nice Bachelor st - Earls loop

    Or just a 2.5hr bachelor st loop..

    Let me know.
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    Ahhh.. should have specified - not this week for me! I can (hopefully) join on the next one. Next week's Monday afternoon, Wednesday, Thursday afternoon, and Friday are all good.
    Thanks for the reply!

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    Next week Friday am might work keep you posted
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    I should be back up and riding in a few days. wrist is about 85-90% there. been off the bike for a little while. due to no time and a non mountain bike injury

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    Rode Batchelor St. twice last week. Actually it was my 1st & 2nd time there... pretty fun place, but my bike is not set up for it. I ride a Cannondale Prophet MX1, and was spent pretty quick. Only got about an hour & half of riding in. Back tracked a few spots on rollercoaster. After riding there last week, I thought my trip to Highland yesterday was well deserved. Maybe I'll see some of you out there. Hope to frequent this place much more often!

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    Bike not setup? I ride a SS hardtail On One

    If all you guys wanna get together for a guided ride, let me know, next Friday 9am tentative?
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    It's plush and agile on the descents, but it's a beach to pedal uphill. Plus, no sugarcoating the fact that I'm currently out of shape. I'll be up at the Condo in Waterville all next week. I'll tag along with you guys for one of these soon though. Can't say I'll last 3 hrs. though!

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    Looking to ride Bachelor's tomorrow. Anybody interested to show me around? Paul?

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    Riding 8:30 with a small group if you are there join us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldotcom View Post
    Riding 8:30 with a small group if you are there join us!
    Dang, sorry I missed your offer. By the time I saw your reply this morning, it was already too late to join.
    I went ahead and ventured on a solo adventure, taking whatever maps I could find online. Place is sick. Wound up doing what I think was a FE-FS-FO-PW linkup, and then found an awesome windy trail up and down a hill right above PW (seems like it detours away from PW to then reconnect to it). Then I was trying to find the LZ-SP linkup back to the parking lot but seems like I was on SG instead. Awesome! I didn't have enough legs to keep traversing over to JL and RC, but definitely want to check those out next time! All in all it was 8ish miles after which I was completely spent and out of water.

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    Hey that loops looks familiar!
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Batchelor/Earl's?-bstreet-loop.gif  

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    Oh wow that's awesome! And you clearly didn't take all the wrong turns that I did .

    That loop sorta looks like a buffalo taking a leap... or a minotaur.

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    Anyone riding out there tomorrow? Never been and would love the tour!
    Let me know.
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    Ahhh, saving my legs for KT on Sunday... I will be riding mid-week 3:30ish at some point; I will post specifics in a few days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldotcom View Post
    Ahhh, saving my legs for KT on Sunday... I will be riding mid-week 3:30ish at some point; I will post specifics in a few days.
    Thursday?????
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    Thursday 3:45 figure 2-2.5 hours
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldotcom View Post
    Thursday 3:45 figure 2-2.5 hours
    Hi Paul,
    Just sent you a PM.
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    Sunday 8:30 Come join. Weather looks to be perfect and the trails are in excellent shape!

    Thread is here:
    Bstreet / Earls Ride This SUNDAY! 8:30

    Let me know if you are coming! Thanks
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    Would love to join, but don't think I can make Sunday morning.

    But I am gonna try to go this afternoon, if anybody would like to join. Thinking 5:00. My plan is to find and go up the IMBA access trail and do Jacob's Ladder and Rollercoaster. It will all be new to me.
    Paul, any advice on how to maximize the fun on this loop? Or how to not get lost?
    If anybody wanna join please let me know...

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    Anyone been on batchelors or earls trails this season? I am getting my gear ready to go with the nice weather and am curios about the trail conditions.

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    Haven't been yet but have driven by I have seen some cars parked at the bottom. Haven't gone in to check trail condition prolly gonna check out conditions this weekend

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    It's good to go!
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    Awesome, I'm going to be out there all weekend, I am incredibly out of shape so I have to kick my own ass into gear. Literally. Of course I got on my bike for a road ride just to get on it and the chain snapped - hope thats not a sign of my season. Happy riding! If there is ever a group goin out I'd love to join

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    Batchelor/Earl's?

    Fields sorry we didn't ride last season as it was your first here. I sent you a pm about Saturday ride after my buddies and I get out of valley
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    Ill get another group ride together in a few weeks when everyone is ready
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    Sounds good. Paul I'll have to start training now to keep up with you.

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    Yeah, seriously... I'll have to train and get back in shape before I make my appearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldotcom View Post
    Ill get another group ride together in a few weeks when everyone is ready
    Hey Paul, please post here when you are going to do another ride I am much more prepared this year for a rematch of last year's adventure! no single speed though..

    anyone riding at batchelor this weekend?

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    LOL.. Sounds good..
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    I am off this week so If anyone is up for it maybe wed, thur.. I dunno.. Im heading out now again for more!
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    Earls was beautiful yesterday!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shreddin22 View Post
    Earls was beautiful yesterday!!!!
    Did a big loop at B St yesterday. The fars, Southern belle, viper, lizard king, roller coaster.. All nice and dry, still a lot of leaves in spots to keep things interesting but I'm pretty sure our monster trucking should've helped to clear them up some...

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    Man, huge wake up call for me. I had a really tough winter and I am incredibly out of shape. Quite disappointING honestly... give me a bit of time and I would love to get together to ride - I just need some time to shape up. Glad you guys got out there! It was gorgeous day!

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    Fantastic day today... Bstreet is in fine form... Just a fantastic day on the hill..

    Earls has some really good spots also; some leaf blown... Others (little tinker) are crazy slick on the downside (leaves).. Still, all in good fun.


    In a couple weeks I will toss a ride together
    “People fear death even more than pain. It's strange that they fear death. Life hurts a lot more than death." JM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldotcom View Post
    Fantastic day today... Bstreet is in fine form... Just a fantastic day on the hill..

    Earls has some really good spots also; some leaf blown... Others (little tinker) are crazy slick on the downside (leaves).. Still, all in good fun.


    In a couple weeks I will toss a ride together
    Bstreet ride Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning this weekend anybody?

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    Next week I will toss together a group ride if anyone wants to join.
    “People fear death even more than pain. It's strange that they fear death. Life hurts a lot more than death." JM

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    Anyone know of a group riding Earl's or Bstreet this afternoon? I was just permitted a few hours of freedom unexpectedly...!

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    I am off for the summer in 2 weeks - I will put together a nice group ride of about 20 miles - Earls & Bsteet - stay tuned !
    “People fear death even more than pain. It's strange that they fear death. Life hurts a lot more than death." JM

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    Anybody riding Earl's or B-Street between now and Sunday? Looking for a mid-long ride with lots of rocks and roots!

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    Some friends and myself (all busy 40-something Amherst dads) have been trying to ride Earl's every Tuesday and Thursday 5 to 6:15AM, as well as Sat and Sun 6 to 8:15AM. We ride old hardtails, mostly single speed at an average of 5-6 mph. We know Earl's pretty well and are hoping to start tackling some of the less technical Bachelor Street trails in the near future. Let me know if you're of like mind and would like to join us some morning.
    -Matt

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    I am riding bachelor st. in the am if anyone wants to join a 40-something Ludlow Dad on a hardtail Moderate pace, nothing crazy fast.

    8am in the bstreet lot if you are interested
    “People fear death even more than pain. It's strange that they fear death. Life hurts a lot more than death." JM

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