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    SolarStorm/FandyFire X2

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    $46.54 Fasttech

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    $65 Fancyflashlights

    I like what it says about the modes, that is, the order of the modes and the hidden strobe. Unfortunately it doesn't give the strength of each mode or say if both LEDs are used all the time like I hope they are.

    High performance electronic switch for turn on/off and change the mode in Lo > Mid > Hi, press over 1 second to access Strobe Mode
    2000 chinese lumens. With a current draw of 2.3A, it should put out nearly 1000 emitter lumens.

    A 1A charger is better than what most cheap lights come with.

    If the throw is decent, the low profile should make this a decent helmet lamp.

    It comes with the typical 4x18650 battery pack of unknown quality.

    I'll keep an eye on this. I've been using a heavy flashlight on my helmet, and although the throw is phenomenal, it strains my neck too much on long rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaftye View Post
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    $46.54 Fasttech

    OR

    $65 Fancyflashlights

    I like what it says about the modes, that is, the order of the modes and the hidden strobe. Unfortunately it doesn't give the strength of each mode or say if both LEDs are used all the time like I hope they are.



    2000 chinese lumens. With a current draw of 2.3A, it should put out nearly 1000 emitter lumens.

    A 1A charger is better than what most cheap lights come with.

    If the throw is decent, the low profile should make this a decent helmet lamp.

    It comes with the typical 4x18650 battery pack of unknown quality.

    I'll keep an eye on this. I've been using a heavy flashlight on my helmet, and although the throw is phenomenal, it strains my neck too much on long rides.
    Great find Leaftye!! This lamp seems to be a repackaged version of the D99 that D/X was selling a while back but a bit more refined. The battery is probably crap but the lamp looks pretty nice. I expect people to be all over this. Unlike the D99 this lamp has only one button but does the same thing as the D99. Has battery indicators as well. Push/hold to activate strobe. I might get one of these myself. After seeing these it wouldn't surprise me to see D/X and other websites selling these as well. Very good price. Hope the battery is not crap but not a big deal even if it is. The battery connectors have a screw-on sleeve but other than that they are likely similar to standard MS connectors. It wouldn't surprise me if the MS type batteries work without too much problem.

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    That's right, good memory, I thought these looked awfully familiar! The loss of the second button means having to be a bit more careful that changing modes doesn't turn it off, but I don't think that'd be a big problem for me.

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    Looks real good. There's even a red one. This is the same light that Lichitisky posted about the other day. $46 is a steal for one of these. Really all the double xml lights are a bit over-priced in my opinion, since the additional cost of an extra led is probably only about $5.

    I wish they would use the standard magicshine/Xeccon connector. I think you would have to cut off the shield on the lamp side of the connector to even have a chance of compatibility. Too bad no one just sells just the connector.

    It hard to tell if beam is any good. Looks more like a spot than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by varider View Post
    I wish they would use the standard magicshine/Xeccon connector. I think you would have to cut off the shield on the lamp side of the connector to even have a chance of compatibility. Too bad no one just sells just the connector.
    It's still compatible enough. Look at the charger. It's the same model # that came with my Skyray bike light. That light can use Magicshine and Xeccon battery packs.

    The only limitation is the charger and battery pack that come with this light may not work with Magicshine-compatible light heads. The charger is weak and the battery is cheap, so that's not a big loss. That's what I mean about it being compatible enough.

    I do wish they'd sell the light heads separately...

    Quote Originally Posted by varider View Post
    It hard to tell if beam is any good. Looks more like a spot than anything.
    That's good news for me. I want it to be more throwy if I'm going to put this on my helmet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaftye View Post
    It's still compatible enough. Look at the charger. It's the same model # that came with my Skyray bike light. That light can use Magicshine and Xeccon battery packs.

    The only limitation is the charger and battery pack that come with this light may not work with Magicshine-compatible light heads. The charger is weak and the battery is cheap, so that's not a big loss. That's what I mean about it being compatible enough.
    Okay, you convinced me. Having just picked up a Xeccon 6600mAh battery, I now have two batteries with the Magicshine design. So I want to be able to those superior batteries with this light head.

    I highly doubt that this light will stay at this price for long ($47). They are trying to sell them for over $60 on ebay. Yeah, I know I'm violating the first rule of fight club.

    Speaking of ebay, the seller posted another beamshot which makes it look like more of flooder.

    New Hero 2X CREE XM L U2 LED Bicycle Bike Light 1800 Lumens w Power Indicator | eBay

    You gotta love this quote:

    As the leader of night riding,it will bring you infinite light!
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    It sounds like buying from that ebay seller is the way to go. When the battery goes dead during a ride, file a paypal claim due to finite light.

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    Thanks for the heads up leaftye!! Got a red one on the way from fasttech. :-))

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    $46.54 Fasttech

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    $65 Fancyflashlights

    I like what it says about the modes, that is, the order of the modes and the hidden strobe. Unfortunately it doesn't give the strength of each mode or say if both LEDs are used all the time like I hope they are.



    2000 chinese lumens. With a current draw of 2.3A, it should put out nearly 1000 emitter lumens.

    A 1A charger is better than what most cheap lights come with.

    If the throw is decent, the low profile should make this a decent helmet lamp.

    It comes with the typical 4x18650 battery pack of unknown quality.

    I'll keep an eye on this. I've been using a heavy flashlight on my helmet, and although the throw is phenomenal, it strains my neck too much on long rides.

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    The mechanical design looks better than any other two XM-L reflector/projector, even Gloworm of Gemini. The lateral fins create a better thermal resistance for air flowing along it during ride, in contrast to the vertical fins of the Gloworm and Gemini, making possible to get even 1400-1600 lumen safely for LEDs. Anyways, is the site trustworthy? I mean this: 60 Bike Lights at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    Has anyone experience with it? Price is so low that looks like a scam.

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    This will be my first try with fasttech. There are decent reports over on BLF. Quite a few people getting their 18650s from them.
    I have 2 orders started with them and they have shipped with tracking numbers within 2 days.
    My expectations are not high on the battery pack quality but the light head looks decent.
    There are some discount codes floating around also.

    Quote Originally Posted by uiflorin View Post
    The mechanical design looks better than any other two XM-L reflector/projector, even Gloworm of Gemini. The lateral fins create a better thermal resistance for air flowing along it during ride, in contrast to the vertical fins of the Gloworm and Gemini, making possible to get even 1400-1600 lumen safely for LEDs. Anyways, is the site trustworthy? I mean this: 60 Bike Lights at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    Has anyone experience with it? Price is so low that looks like a scam.

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    Keep us posted, it's on my list now. At this price the battery can be replaced by something decent and still get the light under $100 or so. Plus, the design looks like it can be modified, adding some extra fins on top, for better cooling.

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    Yeah, Fasttech is legit. If there were a poll on budgetlightforum, I bet Fasttech would come up as the most reputable vendor. They should out as fast or faster than any other vendor I've used. I've had 4 orders with them that have taken no more than 3 weeks, and as little as 7 calendar days...one order arrived in 8 calendar days.

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    It's Here

    I just got my FandyFire X2 from fasttech.com It is surprisingly small and seems very well made. I just took a couple of pictures with my phone and I will post some more info along with a beam shot. As for the battery there are no serial numbers or identifying marks but atleast it looks to be soldered decently.

    Also I checked and the connector for the light does work with a standard magicshine connector battery (geomangear specifically). It plugs in just fine but probably isn't very waterproof.


    IMAG0055 by kfunfsinn, on Flickr


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    IMAG0064 by kfunfsinn, on Flickr


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    Too many sharp edges for my taste on the Mountainbike. Perhaps this one is better ?

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    Great info ubrv8. Especially appreciate the insight that it's compatible with magicshine batteries.

    Could you please tell me how the beam compares to the Magicshine 808 or equivalent, which is a more of spot beam. I 'm looking for a flood beam for a bar light.

    Thank you
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    That light looks like a Magicshine MJ-880 clone without the anodizing. That's the right price.

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    @ubrv8, got a DSLR camera, or can borrow one?

    I would apreciate some approved nightshots, using the standard MTBR settings.

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    The light looks awesome in my opinion. I would rather have the fins on the side than on the side, in case I bash my head into the bars accidentally. That hasn't happened in a while though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khrystyan27 View Post
    @ubrv8, got a DSLR camera, or can borrow one?

    I would apreciate some approved nightshots, using the standard MTBR settings.
    Yes I have a DSLR, what are the standard MTBR settings?



    Thanks

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    Well, I received mine also. Didn't work right away and then was intermittent.
    Turns out the cable connector on the light side was broken inside.
    I just spliced on a spare with extra cable and all is good.
    I wanted a longer cable anyway.

    Brief review. Looks to be about 30% brighter than my single xml magicshine. So maybe around 1000 real lumens.
    Beam is definitely spotty which is good. I'll be using it on the lid.
    Battery seems strong off the charger, measured 8.45v. Nothing lost over night.
    Not sure when I'll actually use it so run time won't be available for a while.
    It weighs almost exactly the same as my single xml MS.
    The 3 modes are a decent spread and the press and hold for the strobe is nice.
    And the good news! The strobe is not a strobe but a slow flash, perfect for on the road.
    Cycling through the modes could be problem as you have to go through the off mode to go from hi to low.
    Not impressed with the wire gauge, seems way to thin to me as evident with the broken wire in my unit.
    Overall seems to be pretty good value for under 50 bux delivered.

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    @ubrv8 -

    "camera settings: full manual, ISO-100, Exposure-6 seconds, Aperture-F4.0, Focus-Manual, White Balance-Daylight".

    I apreciate !
    Thanks a lot.

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    Beam Shot Indoor

    I don't have a backyard and I haven't been able to take a night right yet, so indoor beam shots will have to do for now.


    The first set is using the MTBR standard of
    "camera settings: full manual, ISO-100, Exposure-6 seconds, Aperture-F4.0, Focus-Manual, White Balance-Daylight".

    In the garage this was too bright so I took a second set where I changed the exposure to 1 second to get a better reference on how bright the light is. I compare it to my MJ808E (with the wide angle lens from ActionLED). With the 6 second exposure the MJ808E looks much brighter in the picture, this is not really the case, I think the wall is bouncing back too much ligh

    X2 - High - 6s

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    808E (WA) - High - 6s

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    X2 - Med - 6s

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    X2 - Low - 6s

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    X2 - High - 1s

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    808E (WA) - High - 1s

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    X2 - Medium - 1s

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    X2 - Low - 1s

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    I think the MTBR settings are generally used for outdoor beam shots. With distance photos not as much light is reflected back thus the need for longer exposure.

    The photos you gave are really only useful for gauging beam pattern. Only an outdoor photo will show others how intense the beam pattern is and how far it will throw. If you do an outdoor shot try to bring something along to use as distance markers. Markers at 50, 75, 100, 150 ft are a good place to start...thanks for the effort.

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    I've gathered some information about the SolarStorm, by posting in their forums:

    Suitable for modding?: FastTech Forums

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    Detailed measurements of the reflectors on that thread. The DIY guys will be able to tells us which reflectors have similar dimensions. That would be useful if you want a more flood type beam. It currently looks very spotty to me.

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    No, it is contrary. If i will buy this light, i am planning to change the optics with aspherical ones.

    For me, it isn't enough throw.

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    The red Fandyfire version is only $38.43

    https://www.fasttech.com/products/1285803

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    I bought the black SolarStorm version from FastTech. What can I say, red isn't my thing, and Li stuff with Fire in the name is just scary, and hopefully not profetic.

    Ordered 10 PM MST April 4. Used the cupon code "TENOFF" and got 5% off the order. Shipped April 7th (Happy Birthday to Me!)

    When it shipped, my my order page showed a picture of my package and label. I hadn't run across that before. It was mildly comforting (Yes we really did ship your order - See!)

    HK Post showed that the package finally made it out of Hongkong on April 13. Canada Post never showed anything with the tracking number. Received at my door April 19.

    I'm quite pleased with the service from FastTech, and will order from them again.

    I like to mode spacing on the light. While I haven't taken it out on the bike yet (heck haven't even taken the bike out yet), Low seems bright enough for road/pathway biking.

    The lighthead is 93 grams as advertised.

    Out of the box lighthead showed three dots. You know, a boy and his new toy -- I had to start playing without topping up the charge. Probably shone it around for 1/2 hr or more in all the various modes. Then left it on in low to see how long it would go. Not a real timed test. With the out-of-box charge, it ran on low for more than 6 hours plus whatever extra time I spent playing. I meant to turn it off before bed, but forgot about it. It was on one dot before I went to brush my teeth. The instruction sheet says that when the runtime is <30 minutes the last dot will flash. I didn't see it, so I can't vouch for that. The battery took about four hours to charge the next day (again not really timed.)

    Battery connector seems well thought out. I have garden lighting with a simillar screw together connector. That stands up to all kinds of weather. The connector mates well with our standard batteries. It you look at the pictures, the orange O-ring goes inside the barrel of the standard connector, so it may even be more watertight than with my other light. It feels secure and snug as a bug in a rug.

    Bar mounting O-rings appear to be silicone (or some other plastic) rather than rubber. I read somewhere on here that the silicone rings are more grippy than rubber ones. Time will tell.

    My only critisism would be about the flash mode (not that I'm likely to use it.) SOP is that we should almost never use the highest mode on the road. The flash mode is a slow strobe between High and off. I wish it used to power level you were on when you did the "press & hold" to activate stobe mode.

    It's nice to see that FastTech updated the listing by adding the disassembled picture (including measurments). It had originally been posted to the modding thread on their forum, in answer to Khrystyan27's question.

    So far I'm pleased with this little guy. At least as of now, the battery seems ok, and better than some those E-water offerings. If you Need a less than $50 light, this seems like a good one to try.

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    Nightshots?

    Heating issues?

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    I'v had the SolarStorm out on three rides so far, and I'm still very pleased with it.

    I still haven't done official runtime tests, but from my casual observations the battery seems like it's decent quality.

    As I've said before, it ran for more than six hours on low in the house.

    Last night was my longest ride so far at 2:20. Ran it on medium the whole time. By the end it was down to the last of the three power level LEDs, but it wasn't flashing yet (which is supposed to indicate <30 minutes left). My ride was at -5 C (23 F). The chill would have taken some umph out of the power pack.

    In building an extension to the expressway/ring road, the city is chopping a good chunk out of my playground. I figure if they're going to be so rude, I'm gonna rub it in their face, and sully their virgin tarmac by riding my bike down it. Part of this thing is complete with pavement, street lights (not on), and road signs. The overpasses are built, but not their associated connector roads and ramps. Once they finish the railway overpass, I'll have several more kilometers on which to spew my mountain bike contamination all over their motorway monstrosity. (Cue the evil laugh! )

    The point of the story is that the road signs were lit up as if by car headlights. Both the SolarStorm and the Xeccon S12 (XM-L U2 version) had the same effect. I know they're bright from much further away, but I only thought to start measuring at 1.25 Km (.77 miles) out. I sure knew I was approaching dirt exit ramp to the non-existant connector road. I'll try and see how much further they pop, the next time I'm on there after dark.

    The SolarStorm has a nice broad beam pattern for the bars. The city is pushing a lot of dirt around during the construciton. Each trip I have to pick out a new line across giant earth mover, four lane corduroy, to where my trail picks up on the other side. On medium, and paired with the X-12 I've certainly felt I had enough light to do that.

    I've found a place for that may be a good spot for "Tunnel of Trees" beem shots. For the moment I'd rather get some more rides in, before I lug the camera, tripod, dollar store traffic cones and measuring tape out there. It's an uphill spot, so I have to wait for a clear skies night. City lights bouncing off the clouds would give too much of an orange background.

    If you decide to purchase it from FastTech, don't forget the "TENOFF" cupon code (which ironically only give 5% off). That takes the light down to $44.21 USD, shipping included, with what seems to be a fiarly good battery. For those that can't afford the name brands, definatly a worthwhile contender.

    And yes, I do carry a AA Planet Bike Blaze 2 as backup (currently using as my bliky), just in case both the both the SolarStorm and X-12 quit.

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    How big is the hot spot compared to a magicshine 808 (or a similar clone)? That's the million dollar question right now. Two leds should give us both more light and more of a spread beam.

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    I bought a couple SolarStorm's from FastTech. The lighthead seems pretty nice and the beam is decent. I like the fact that the strobe mode is hidden, although I wish it were completely gone. I'd rather the light cycled through L/M/H and repeated without the off. Then, a long press would turn off. I have no use for the strobe, but I understand others do.

    I have done 3 discharge tests on my hobby charger and the reported capacities were 3333mah, 3404mah, and 3751mah. Not exactly high capacity packs, but what do you expect for $47 including the lighthead and charger...

    I need to get out for some real night rides and report back. The around the yard messing about and comparing to other lights is promising.
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    Just did a quick bit of twisty singletrack (as well as a fast dirt road descent / slow climb). The beam pattern seems a bit too floody for the helmet and a bit too spotty for the bars. So, that should make it the 650b of light patterns. Tons of light for <$100. The smaller o-ring is a bit sloppy for a 25.4 bar. Not terrible, but I'll probably use another tighter one I have laying around.

    I took off the plastic mount for the helmet light and used my preferred method of 3M Dual Lock. Removing the mount leaves a threaded hole that does not penetrate the body of the light. Perfecto.


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    Quote Originally Posted by baker View Post
    Just did a quick bit of twisty singletrack (as well as a fast dirt road descent / slow climb). The beam pattern seems a bit too floody for the helmet and a bit too spotty for the bars. So, that should make it the 650b of light patterns. Tons of light for <$100. The smaller o-ring is a bit sloppy for a 25.4 bar. Not terrible, but I'll probably use another tighter one I have laying around.
    I was afraid that it would be too spotty for bar-mount. Thanks for clearing that up. Nice helmet mount!

    It's bad design that it turns off after high. That could be semi-dangerous.

    Has anyone successfully swapped out the reflectors for a different type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by varider View Post
    I was afraid that it would be too spotty for bar-mount
    I would have to disagree. I use mine on the bars, and I think it's a great bar light. The spot is large and lights the full width of a two lane (under construction) highway. The throw is quite decent, and brihtens the trail well ahead of me.

    My Xeccon S12 U2 thows further, and has a tighter spot. But then again, that's what it is designed to do. The non-spot beam of the S-12 is a bit wider, but the Solostorm gives plenty of light for the trail.

    I did a 3:45 ride with the Solostorm last week. First 20 min on road = low. Then ran on medium for most of the rest of the ride. At hour 3, the third dot started flashing, and I returned to low. It lasted another 30 minutes before shuting down.

    I want to take some Shoot-out style trail pix, but hauling all that gear is gonna be a pain. Just got to have a day when I'm motivated enough to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_C View Post
    I would have to disagree. I use mine on the bars, and I think it's a great bar light. The spot is large and lights the full width of a two lane (under construction) highway. The throw is quite decent, and brihtens the trail well ahead of me.

    My Xeccon S12 U2 thows further, and has a tighter spot. But then again, that's what it is designed to do. The non-spot beam of the S-12 is a bit wider, but the Solostorm gives plenty of light for the trail.

    I did a 3:45 ride with the Solostorm last week. First 20 min on road = low. Then ran on medium for most of the rest of the ride. At hour 3, the third dot started flashing, and I returned to low. It lasted another 30 minutes before shuting down.

    I want to take some Shoot-out style trail pix, but hauling all that gear is gonna be a pain. Just got to have a day when I'm motivated enough to do it.
    Thanks Ian. Two lanes seems very broad to me, more of a flood type light.

    I think that the amount of light outside the hot spot is also what makes it bar-worthy. You need some light on the ground between the front tire and the beginning of the hot spot 15 or 20 ft away.

    The Magicshine 808E is not that great in that regard. The D99 is better, but doesn't have a true hot spot. The solarstorm is probably also better ( I wish I had one). I also have a magicshine 872 clone and that thing is a super flooder.

    Beam shots would be awesome. I want to do a shoot-out also, but I don't have a dslr.

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    Are those lenses suitable for the SS X2?

    I want to change the actual lens with eliptical ones for legal road use.

    Which one would be suitable?

    35.0mm Optics/Light Diffusers (Glass/5-Pack) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

    or?

    23.0mm Optics/Light Diffusers (PMMA/5-Pack) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

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    So i will have to cut them a little bit to fit in the space of the original reflector.

    I want to use the bike light for legal road use, but the original reflectors produce too much glare.

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    "Ok, now I understand.

    Wow, that sucks! I just assumed there was a solid wall behind the led board. Oh well, not the greatest design. That's why it's so small, they left out the thermal conduction wall! I wonder how long it will take to fry itself.

    So that leaves the Solarstorm x2 and dx ultrafire D-50 as possible good and cheap dual-emitter lights "


    Can you check if this light is build better than the D99 - is there a wall behind the led board?

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    I just bought 3 of these lights for a 24 hour race, all 3 worked perfect!. This was my first time riding at night and I was really impressed with these lights!.

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    I am interested in the SSX2 and or any other similar dual emitters. My intent would be to run this on the bars as more of a flood pattern.

    - Any beam shots on the trails yet?
    - What is the run-time on High and Medium settings with the FT supplied battery?
    - What is the difference in output on the High vs Medium settings (subjective responses are also acceptable at this point)?
    - What are the trade-offs of this vs. the TrustFire TR-D002?

    I would like to get a minimum of 2 hours on medium setting, with the preference of something closer to 2.5 hours. I understand that the SSX2 can easily do this so my question is in regards to how much of a tradeoff in light output that is occurring on that setting? I suppose I mostly looking for the maximum output possible in the 2-2.5 hour range. I don't need anything over-the-top powerful though since I am getting by just fine with two (2) Niterider Lumina 650's (on medium). Lastly, I'm not opposed to spending slightly more money and buy the light and battery units separate if it would significantly improve performance. Thanks.

    Edit: meant Lumina, not MiNewt
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhmr View Post
    I am interested in the SSX2 and or any other similar dual emitters. My intent would be to run this on the bars as more of a flood pattern.

    - Any beam shots on the trails yet?
    - What is the run-time on High and Medium settings with the FT supplied battery?
    - What is the difference in output on the High vs Medium settings (subjective responses are also acceptable at this point)?
    - What are the trade-offs of this vs. the TrustFire TR-D002?

    I would like to get a minimum of 2 hours on medium setting, with the preference of something closer to 2.5 hours. I understand that the SSX2 can easily do this so my question is in regards to how much of a tradeoff in light output that is occurring on that setting? I suppose I mostly looking for the maximum output possible in the 2-2.5 hour range. I don't need anything over-the-top powerful though since I am getting by just fine with two (2) MiNewt 650's (on medium). Lastly, I'm not opposed to spending slightly more money and buy the light and battery units separate if it would significantly improve performance. Thanks.
    The only person who has all the lights is Kir, and here's what he said about them:
    Another New, Promising XM-L2 Light

    There's really only a few people who have any of these lights, as they are all very new. So there aren't very many side-by-side comparisons of any of the lights. The D99 was the first cheap dual emitter light, and a bunch of us bought them and reviewed it.

    The "which light should I buy" questions can only be answered if you consider the light as a whole, i.e. the UI, beam pattern etc. For me, the user interface (UI) and the number of modes is very important. Each light has a different downside, so it's just a matter of what you are willing to live with. For example this light supposedly turns off completely while changing from the high to low mode. Not ideal in my opinion. So just keep reading the threads to see what you like.
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    How long is the battery last?

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    The battery that came with mine lasted about an hour on high. It won't charge past 8.2 volts. I am going to send it back

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    I do have all of these lights...actually I have loads of chinese bike lights, about 20-30 models atm.
    Its basically my little fun project, I want to collect every popular chinese bike light and make a complete database with technical data, pics of the insides/drivers, reviews of each light with beamshots etc. It all started 6 months ago when I decided to get a new light and ordered a few lights from aliexpress. Wasn't impressed by them, ordered more...and so on So far I've managed to collect almost every model so I have the lights - but I just don't have the time to make detailed reviews atm.
    If there will be enough interest in the database like this, I may attemp to make an english version too (I'm from Russia, so english is not my native language ).
    Bicycle Light 5*T6 - you can find some of my test reviews here, on pages 6-7-8. Google translate it, it'll be horrible but understandable for most parts.

    Now, about SolarStorm X2.
    Original SSX2 from aliexpress (bought it for $62 or so) has ~3700mAh battery. I also got 2 versions from fasttech.
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/1285800 - this one has 3000mAh battery.
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/1330303 - this one has ~3600mAh battery AND unbalanced cells, protection circuit at battery activates at charging so final battery voltage is lower than 8.4v (same as mtbboy41's battery). Also its a clone of SSX2, driver is a bit different.

    I made a quick test of current draw from external PSU at 8.4V, here is the data for all 2XML lights that I have at maximum mode:
    TrustFire TR-D002 - 1A
    D99 - 1.3A
    D-50 - 1.4A
    Solarstorm X2 - 2A

    So SSX2 is the most powerful 2XML light. At 7.5v (usual working voltage from battery) it draws 0.5A in low mode, 1.5A in middle and more than 2A (probably about 2.3A, my PSU has 2A limit) at high.
    With 3000mAh battery you'll get 1-1.3 hours runtime on high and about 2 hours runtime on medium. With 3700 battery a bit more.
    Imo you really need to make your own battery for SSX2 (or buy a good battery made from 2600mAh cells), chinese batteries don't offer enough capacity for it.

    2XML lights - Imgur - some comparison pics of my 2XML lights

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    Found this in other thread:
    Aliexpress.com : Buy 1 Set 2013 SolarStorm X2 Bike Light Waterproof 2 CREE U2 LED 2000LM Bicycle Light + Intelligent Power Indicate + Free Shipping from Reliable Bike light suppliers on Shenzhen East Face Sci&Tech Co., Ltd
    Solarstorm X2 for $37 shipped. Go to "sale items", get 3 off 30 coupon, use it at checkout.
    Even if you'll get a crappy battery its still a very good deal.

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    Just pulled the trigger on the solarstorm X2 for $36.84. I was looking at it, but decided I really didn't need it. I went for a night ride and my 3 XML-T6 fried right before the kinda technical steep part of my ride. Good thing I had a 1 XML-T6 on my helmet or it really would have sucked riding out. Guess I was wrong and needed another light. Hopefully they will ship it fast.

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    Sweet! Wish I had not purchased the Trustfire TR-D010 and purchased one of these...
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    Interesting...my thoughts....Somewhat ugly but if you must have a three emitter lamp this could be the most functional. Likely good at heat dissipation as well. Personally, I like the smaller form factor of the duel emitter lamps. If the Solarstorm X2 comes out in a XM-L2 version I might just buy one. ( Unless Gloworm comes out with an XM-L2 version of their *X2 first ... * not to be confused with the Solorstorm X2 )

    Strange though that they claim this lamp is 6000 lumen.

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    Ok this one looks a no-brainer for $38 (if the 5% discount coupon still works), even with a crappy battery. I'm going to order it.

    The only potential downside to me is that the beam looks too throwy with a definite central hot spot. Has anyone come across a compatible optics that would make it more diffuse yet? I found some 23mm optics, but it appears that it would require some machining to fit.

    Is the MJ-880 optics compatible? What about this one: Action-LED-Lights — Wide Angle Lens for the MJ-880 ?

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    Solarstorm X2 on sale now

    Hi guys,

    Just want to let you know that DX has the Solarstorm X2 on sale for $43.50 right now, but with limited quantities. Other bike lights available at a discount and we are dispatching these from the warehouse within 72 hrs.

    Solarstorm X2 Sale

    We have the black and red available.

    ~joseph

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    Its cheaper on AliExpress.

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    Aliexpress.com : Buy 2013Hotsale!! SolarStorm X2 Bike Light 2 CREE U2 LED 2000LM Waterproof Bicycle Light + Intelligent Power Indicate,Freeshiping from Reliable Bike Light suppliers on Shenzhen East Face Sci&Tech Co., Ltd
    Then go to "sale items", grab $3 off $30 coupon = new SS X2 for $32 shipped!
    Expect a crappy ~2000mAh battery though, but still worth it for the light alone.

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    Kir, good deal that one. The other deal isn't bad either really.
    You earn 1000 exp!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khrystyan27 View Post
    No, it is contrary. If i will buy this light, i am planning to change the optics with aspherical ones.

    For me, it isn't enough throw.
    Did you ever find optics replacement for the Solarstorm? If so, where?

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    For less than $35, I plan to buy the SSX2. I see quite a few mentioned that this may come with crappy batteries. Can someone post a link to where I can get some quality batteries without mods. I just know it's 18650 batteries, but I don't know if they all have the same connections. I'm sure I'm using wrong terms here. But any help is greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XCfanatic View Post
    For less than $35, I plan to buy the SSX2. I see quite a few mentioned that this may come with crappy batteries. Can someone post a link to where I can get some quality batteries without mods. I just know it's 18650 batteries, but I don't know if they all have the same connections. I'm sure I'm using wrong terms here. But any help is greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.
    I've been waiting for the very same information. From what I can tell, this is a decent case (throw the batteries out):

    4 x 18650 Battery Set for Bicycle Light-in Charger from Consumer Electronics on Aliexpress.com

    and you can get a good battery here:

    $16.21 Panasonic NCR18650B Protected Rechargeable 3400mAh 3.7V 18650 Lithium Batteries 2-pack - authentic cells / 2-pack / overcharge + over-discharge protection at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    Though I admit I don't know the difference between all the kinds on the drop-down. (assume flat, protected, but am not sure on the mAh)

    I *think* this could allow you to build up a decent pack without needing to have soldering skills etc.

    Wish I had more info, maybe someone can clarify or suggest something better.

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    $14.79 Panasonic NCR18650B Rechargeable 3400mAh 3.7V 18650 Lithium Batteries 2-pack - authentic cells / 2-pack at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
    You need these batteries to fit in that battery pack.
    Also these batteries have to be discharged to 2.7v to get full capacity out of them, not sure it that battery pack protection circuit will allow that...will test that a bit later.

    And update on these $35 solarstorms - they actually have good batteries! Well, good for chinese batteries They have about 3300mAh capacity, I just tested 2 of them.
    So expect about 1.5 hours runtime on high and longer on low/medium - which is not bad, you could always use that battery as a spare one for long nite rides. For main battery I still recommend to get something with higher capacity.

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    Thank you Kir and GH. Just placed the order for the SSX2. I'll see how the batteries go. For $35, not much to lose.

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    I just found the X2 - Light Head Only over on Ali Express.

    SolarStorm X2 2*Cree XM-L U2 2000-Lumen Led Bike Light Head - Black (Without Battery Pack) + Free Shipping US $25.92

    Are they going to start giving them away soon?

    Of course Ali is a storefront for Many different sellers. It may be a race to the lowest price amongst retailers. I don't think you can directly compare Ali to an outlet like FastTech, which is a single store, with a consistent and better return policy.

    I really like my X2, and was thinking of buying a second. I'm not sure I can turn down a backup light head for $26. Or should I buy it with an OK battery for $10 more?

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    I've found that this light is jamming my wireless BBB BCP-32w cycle computer's transmission, rendering it unusable. That is pretty bad, and I'm now considering either switching to a wired computer (which I wouldn't like to do), or replacing the light's driver or the entire light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_C View Post
    I just found the X2 - Light Head Only over on Ali Express.

    SolarStorm X2 2*Cree XM-L U2 2000-Lumen Led Bike Light Head - Black (Without Battery Pack) + Free Shipping US $25.92

    Are they going to start giving them away soon?

    Of course Ali is a storefront for Many different sellers. It may be a race to the lowest price amongst retailers. I don't think you can directly compare Ali to an outlet like FastTech, which is a single store, with a consistent and better return policy.

    I really like my X2, and was thinking of buying a second. I'm not sure I can turn down a backup light head for $26. Or should I buy it with an OK battery for $10 more?
    Nice find Ian! That's going to be hard to pass up. The complete set is just $34.99. It might be worth the extra cost for a spare battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_C View Post
    I just found the X2 - Light Head Only over on Ali Express.

    SolarStorm X2 2*Cree XM-L U2 2000-Lumen Led Bike Light Head - Black (Without Battery Pack) + Free Shipping US $25.92

    Are they going to start giving them away soon?

    Of course Ali is a storefront for Many different sellers. It may be a race to the lowest price amongst retailers. I don't think you can directly compare Ali to an outlet like FastTech, which is a single store, with a consistent and better return policy.

    I really like my X2, and was thinking of buying a second. I'm not sure I can turn down a backup light head for $26. Or should I buy it with an OK battery for $10 more?
    So what battery pack would be best to get if you bought the light only?

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    Nice Find!!
    Inspired by Wall-E?
    SolarStorm/FandyFire X2-wall-e-wallpaper-wall-e-6412320-1280-800.jpg

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    2 more lights that are based on SSX2:
    http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S022347 different case, probably the same driver/leds/modes setup.
    NITEFIRE HERO2 3 x Cree XM-L U2 2100lm 4-Mode Cool White Bicycle Light - Black (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme 3rd led added between the 2 side leds, looks interesting.

    Now for some bad news - I received another batch of SSX2s from ali for $35 and the batteries in them are HORRIBLE. Previous batch had batteries in black heatshrink and they had about 3500mAh capacity. Latest batch (from same seller, same item, same price) has blue heatshrink and these batteries have 1500-1600mAh capacity, made from 700-800mAh cells. This battery will last for about 40 minutes on high, here is a discharge graph from my Imax:


    This is bad, but since even "good" 3500mAh batteries don't have enough capacity for a light that draws 2.3A on high - I don't really care, gonna replace the cells anyway. Still be warned that the new batches have completely unusable batteries.

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    ^ Was just wondering about trying out the blue shrink wrapped batteries. Imo no biggie if its a throw away. Having no testing equipment, I need to rely on trustworthy resellers or dealers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_C View Post
    I just found the X2 - Light Head Only over on Ali Express.

    SolarStorm X2 2*Cree XM-L U2 2000-Lumen Led Bike Light Head - Black (Without Battery Pack) + Free Shipping US $25.92


    Are they going to start giving them away soon?

    Of course Ali is a storefront for Many different sellers. It may be a race to the lowest price amongst retailers. I don't think you can directly compare Ali to an outlet like FastTech, which is a single store, with a consistent and better return policy.

    I really like my X2, and was thinking of buying a second. I'm not sure I can turn down a backup light head for $26. Or should I buy it with an OK battery for $10 more?
    You have to be real careful when buying stuff from the Chinese web sites. On the link you provided the X2 being sold only has three modes, high-low-strobe. There is no mid-mode like with the other sellers. That would be the deal breaker for me.

    D/X sells a version of the X2 under a different name. The ones they sell only list an output no more than 600 lumens. These things are being cloned like crazy. Be careful who you buy from.

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    Measured 2nd battery, its even worse!

    1072mAh on discharge, how is that even possible? Thats a new record for low capacity batteries from everything that I've tested. Gotta open it up tomorrow and measure capacity of every cell, I can hardly believe that chinese manufacturers make 18650 cells with 500mAh capacity

    These lights also have different, more simple driver - I've already seen 3 driver types in SSX2 bodies and spotted 4.2v versions on aliexpress (these ones have 2 leds indicator in the back). This light seems to be very popular and cloned in every possible way.

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    I'll have to say when I did a quick indoor test last night of my ali SSX2, I was much less than impressed. New Action LED-Magicshine battery though, with 20min use on first charge up. Hope to try it out on the road tonight with a fresh charge.

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    So who's selling the good version?

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    I believe fasttech are selling the good ones. I got 2 last week from them & both batteries are in the black shrinkwrap. used for approx 90 minutes & power indicator was still green. Only had 1 ride with them so far.

    very impressed with these lights when comparing to my single XML MS clone i have been happily using for the last 10 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    You have to be real careful when buying stuff from the Chinese web sites. On the link you provided the X2 being sold only has three modes, high-low-strobe. There is no mid-mode like with the other sellers. That would be the deal breaker for me.
    Thanks Cat. I'd missed that.

    I did see the rather odd line item in the description "is_customized: Yes" and wondered what it meant. Guess you discovered the customization.

    It just confirms my uneasy feeling about Ali Express. I knew I smelled a rat when each link to the X2 on Ali seemed to be from a different seller.

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    Took my Ali SSX2 out this morning at 230am, with a freshly charged 4400ah batt. I like it--its my first serious light compared to my first ed. Magicshine, and the Dinotte 600 which I returned, it not being a cost worthy improvement over the P7 MS.

    I don't plan to get a spare SSX2. I want more lumens, better construction, design and reliability. IIRC these X2 are estimated at 1000 lumens, correct? If that's the case perhaps the Gemini Olympia, although I'm really hoping Gloworm's X2 upgrade can hit 1500.

    Gloworm?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike95 View Post
    I believe fasttech are selling the good ones. I got 2 last week from them & both batteries are in the black shrinkwrap.
    Not really, I measured 3040mAh for fasttech SSX2. Basically black shrinkwrap means that you'll get battery with 3000-4000mAh capacity and even then its not guaranteed.
    Chinese batteries = lottery where you have a huge chance to lose and even if you win you'll get only average battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    Not really, I measured 3040mAh for fasttech SSX2. Basically black shrinkwrap means that you'll get battery with 3000-4000mAh capacity and even then its not guaranteed.
    Chinese batteries = lottery where you have a huge chance to lose and even if you win you'll get only average battery.
    Considering how cheap the entire package is and with shipping. It's a wash, there's no way I can make a light that good with that cost, not to mention sourcing the mounts as well.

    It's like frozen pizza versus homemade pizza, homemade pizza always came out more expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varider View Post
    So who's selling the good version?
    And links would be helpful. Dang, I wish I knew there were better and worse ones before I bought 2 from Ali Express.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopherhockey View Post
    And links would be helpful. Dang, I wish I knew there were better and worse ones before I bought 2 from Ali Express.
    me too and Ali are taking a very long time to get it to me.....

    The description for mine has 3 led's at the rear so i figure it's the 8.4V model and also lo-mid-hi-strobe so fingers crossed it's all good. I don't expect the battery to be much good so i'm not stressed about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopherhockey View Post
    And links would be helpful. Dang, I wish I knew there were better and worse ones before I bought 2 from Ali Express.
    Hey, don't feel bad, I was ready to pull the trigger on these as well.

    Fasttech is probably the best place to buy one but Manafont has a SS X2 clone that is a little cheaper. Looks like the same lamp only it doesn't have the Brand name on it. Even comes in the same box. It has 4-modes and battery power indicators, should be the same lamp.

    I've been wondering about these lamps for quite a while. Pretty much looks like a decent package. The lamp uses reflectors ( which I like more than optics ) It has three steady modes ( plus strobe ) which I like. It has battery voltage indicators and a base design that looks like it might dissipate heat well....all in a nice compact package. Also is using the XM-L U2 emitters. The only question is how bright are they. So far no one has been complaining. Yeah, I might buy one just to screw around with. I've ordered from Manafont before without too many problems.

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    Thought I'd add another supplier that has it a little cheaper and free shipping.

    Newegg retailer 37.99 shipped

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    Do these plugs on these lamps work with the Magic Shine batteries? Looks like it, but wanted to know before pulling the trigger on one.

    Edit found my answer by actually reading the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    1072mAh on discharge, how is that even possible? Thats a new record for low capacity batteries from everything that I've tested. Gotta open it up tomorrow and measure capacity of every cell
    Just opened the battery...here is what i found inside (bad battery on the left, good battery on the right for comparison):

    2 cells are just not connected to anything, guy who was spot-welding them probably wanted to finish his shift earlier.
    Quality control? Who needs quality control?

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    Do you think the X2 is better than the D-50 as a helmet light?

    I'm thinking the D-50 from fasttech might be better as its got the better battery case and I can upgrade it easily to some panasonics.

    $54.05 UltraFire D-50 2*Cree XM-L U2 4-Mode 1800-Lumen White LED Headlamp - black / 1*battery pack (4*18650 / 4400mAh / 2S2P) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

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    X2 is lighter than D-50 so I would say yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    X2 is lighter than D-50 so I would say yes.
    Ok, I was looking at the D-50 as the battery was easy to change to better batteries, is there a consensus on any of the X2's that have a decent battery or do I need to buy another battery or get the screw together holder and panasonic?

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    Well imo all chinese batteries are crap, even good ones will have 2000mAh cells inside.
    Its probably better to buy the light alone and the buy a holder + samsung 2600/panasonic 2900-3100-3400 cells for it.
    8 4V 6600mAh Aluminum Shell Rechargeable Battery FOR XM L T6 LED Bike Headlight | eBay btw there is a holder for $16 shipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    Well imo all chinese batteries are crap, even good ones will have 2000mAh cells inside.
    Its probably better to buy the light alone and the buy a holder + samsung 2600/panasonic 2900-3100-3400 cells for it.
    8 4V 6600mAh Aluminum Shell Rechargeable Battery FOR XM L T6 LED Bike Headlight | eBay btw there is a holder for $16 shipped.
    Do you know if this connector works with magic shine lights? Thanks.

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    It should work (same 5.5x2.1mm metal connector) but you may have to cut some of the rubber from the connector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    Well imo all chinese batteries are crap, even good ones will have 2000mAh cells inside.
    Its probably better to buy the light alone and the buy a holder + samsung 2600/panasonic 2900-3100-3400 cells for it.
    8 4V 6600mAh Aluminum Shell Rechargeable Battery FOR XM L T6 LED Bike Headlight | eBay btw there is a holder for $16 shipped.
    Maybe this has been done but can someone provide a link to the good cells. Thx

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    Thanks Kir. As long as I don't have to solder.

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    SolarStorm/FandyFire X2

    That's was the way I was leaning as well. Will look at just getting the lamp and then order the battery unit and some good cells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    It should work (same 5.5x2.1mm metal connector) but you may have to cut some of the rubber from the connector.
    Would I be able to charge the batteries in the holder or will I have to get a separate charger if I replace the cells?

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    Another Solarstorm X3. This one looks much better:
    SolarStorm X3 3 x Cree XM-L T6 2000lm 4-Mode White Bike Light - Deep Pink (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

    I have no idea if it's the real deal or a clone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mb323323 View Post
    Maybe this has been done but can someone provide a link to the good cells. Thx
    MB, a good "one stop" shopping link for 18650 cells is on the "Fasttech" web site. They also have some pretty good prices. Heck, for what I paid for one Panasonic ( somewhere else ) I could of had two from Fasttech. They have all the good brands ( Panasonic, Samsung, Sanyo ) as well as some off brands that sometimes get honorable mention.

    Word of warning; Just be sure to read all the product descriptions so you know what you are buying. If you want "protected cells" make sure you read that in the product description. Be careful if you are considering some of the Samsung "ICR" type 18650's. Those cells sometimes have a peak voltage of 4.35 volts. ( vs. normal 18650 Li-ion cells with have a peak voltage of 4.2 ) If you buy the higher voltage cells you will need a different ( special ) charger to get the battery to it's peak voltage. Yes, I do believe Fasttech sells both kinds of chargers.

    Fasttech has a bunch of interesting gadgets. After looking over what they have I see a bunch of stuff I'd like to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varider View Post
    Another Solarstorm X3. This one looks much better:
    SolarStorm X3 3 x Cree XM-L T6 2000lm 4-Mode White Bike Light - Deep Pink (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

    I have no idea if it's the real deal or a clone.
    VERY INTERESTING!...I've not seen these anywhere else. Look's like D/X is releasing some new lamps. I might have to give Mr. Joesph a shout to see if he wants one of these reviewed. No telling how this lamp operates it's mode changes. It might do the 1-2-3 led illumination thing to give you three modes. The center LED looks to have a bigger reflector. This might give the lamp more throw. The only down side as I see it is that it is only using standard XM-L T-6 emitters. I'd rather it have the U2 but still, I wouldn't mind taking a look at this baby.

    Looks like D/X is gearing up for the night season.

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    How long do you think a X2 would run off 2x 3100/3400 panasonics or the likes? Just wondering if I buy just the X2 and build a small battery pack from a 2 battery holder with PCM and cable that I can velco to my helmet. Could make a second and put in my pocket incase but most of my night riders would be under an hour so do you think I could get that long from 2 good cells?

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