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    Quote Originally Posted by -Archie- View Post
    It's not clear whether it is 4.2v or 8.4v variant. I've seen this battery container in other light, where it was parallel-connection type...
    ...not only that but the battery holder requires only two cells and is connected directly to the lamp ( no two-way plug ). Interesting though because the lamp looks like it is using reflectors that are OP'd. Can't beat the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2002maniac View Post
    I'm a bit of a lighing noob (my only light is a niterider 600). I just ordered a "welltop" light from amazon that appears to be the same as the lights discussed here. What do you guys think? I paid $25 shipped so I won't be too disappointed if it's crap, but it seemed like a good gamble.

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    I noticed that the driver is listed as High-Mid-Low, which is reverse of the SolarStorm one I have. There is no mention of Hold for Flash mode. When you get it, please report back on the mode arrangement.

    The picture sure looks like the SolarStorm logo and X2 markings
    Turns out it's not a "Welltop" at all. It's a Solarstorm X2. I'm very happy with it so far.

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    One thing to keep in mind, the x2 and x3 have really sharp edges. This can really dangerous. Both the Gemini Duo and Xera have a much smoother light pattern. The x3 Solorstorm is best used on the head. For the money can't complain !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    One thing to keep in mind, the x2 and x3 have really sharp edges. This can really dangerous.
    I wouldn't exactly say sharp. Though I agree the right angle edges of fins on the font and back could break skin in a serious crash. But realistically, if the accident causes you to hit the light with enough force to result in that kind of damage, other parts of your body are hitting the bike or ground pretty hard too. Those impacts are likely to cause more acute injuries than hitting the SS.

    From a safety point of view, yes it would have been good for the corners of the upper fins to be rounded. I think this is a case where style won out over safety. I doubt injuries in an accident even entered the minds of the designers.

    It is a "sharp" looking light, that stands out as different from others that were on the market when this was introduced in the spring. It still looks unique today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightnut View Post
    Saw this one on ebay and thought I'd share it. It's kinda weird, but cheap enough that people could just use the light head to go with their 4-cell battery. Might have to get creative to mount it on a helmet.
    Quote Originally Posted by -Archie- View Post
    It's not clear whether it is 4.2v or 8.4v variant. I've seen this battery container in other light, where it was parallel-connection type...
    There isn't necessarily anything wrong with a 2P power source. If there were other design changes such such as the driver and LEDs connected in parallel rather than series. (Maybe the builders and modders can chime in on that.) There are many single 18650 cell flashlights that drive the LEDs as brightly as our 2S2P bike lights.

    I also noticed there are no battery charge indicators. The front bezel is quite different and the back attaches with sunken screws/bolts. Willing to bet a single pair of screws hold both front and back in place. The cable glands looks quite anemic compared to the SS.

    Plusses: You get a quick release handle bar mount, and the head mount looks lower profile than the standard MS style. And those OP reflectors sure caught my eye too.

    But considering you can get the original SS X2 "light head only" for $20.65 or the real XM-L2 version for $23.50, I'm not sure the potential down sides of this model are worth the risk. Of course if someone wants to buy it, and give it the once over, I'd gladly read the review with gusto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    One thing to keep in mind, the x2 and x3 have really sharp edges. This can really dangerous. Both the Gemini Duo and Xera have a much smoother light pattern. The x3 Solorstorm is best used on the head. For the money can't complain !!
    MTB'ing is inherently dangerous in and of itself. Any bad fall can have you hitting a tree, a sharp stick, big or sharp rocks or any combo thereof. Getting hurt by the edges on a SSX2 would take, "The Perfect Storm" so to speak. Even if you did brush up against one during a fall the lamp will move ( if using the O-ring mounts )
    All things considered, I certainly wouldn't let the lamp design keep me from buying one. Simply put; really not important enough to worry about.

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    Due to my wonky handlebars, I cannot mount this light perfectly, it always shines to the right (or left). I could use something to attach it to the stem in stead of the bars, is that available?

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    Stem Cap Light Mount from Paul Component Engineering

    Paul components stem light mount should work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonoskar View Post
    Due to my wonky handlebars, I cannot mount this light perfectly, it always shines to the right (or left). I could use something to attach it to the stem in stead of the bars, is that available?
    I use the MT204 mount and its great. Its super light, and if you want you can mount more than one thing to it.

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    I use the MT-201P mount for center light: works fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggdog View Post
    Stem Cap Light Mount from Paul Component Engineering

    Paul components stem light mount should work!
    I feel this will mount the light too close to the rider for standing up while climbing. You'll get lots of glare in your eyes if it is not further forward. I had to build a "hood" for one of my early lights to prevent that.

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    Action LED Mount

    Quote Originally Posted by zonoskar View Post
    Due to my wonky handlebars, I cannot mount this light perfectly, it always shines to the right (or left). I could use something to attach it to the stem in stead of the bars, is that available?
    I use the Action LED mount also, works great but is a bit slippery for MS type o-ring mounting so I epoxied inner tube strips to it, makes for a snug fit.

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    I'm From Portugal and today arrived my SolarStorm X2 XM-L2 version from lightmalls (ordered on 11 Out 2013, arrived today 29 Out 2013).






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    Tonight going with 2-SS x2 on the bars powered by my new Xeccon 6 cell, Samsung 7800 mAh soft shell battery. Leonard is another great guy to deal with, great service better pricing than Action, sorry Jim !! Supper fast shipping, 6 cells for slightly more money than 4 cell from Gemini.
    I will use the x3 again on the head power by the Gemini 4 cell battery. Thinking about getting just the new Gemini Olympia 2100 light head. Not much info yet on it !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Tonight going with 2-SS x2 on the bars powered by my new Xeccon 6 cell, Samsung 7800 mAh soft shell battery. Leonard is another great guy to deal with, great service better pricing than Action, sorry Jim !! Supper fast shipping, 6 cells for slightly more money than 4 cell from Gemini.
    I will use the x3 again on the head power by the Gemini 4 cell battery. Thinking about getting just the new Gemini Olympia 2100 light head. Not much info yet on it !!
    MTB Revolution; great place to buy good batteries at a great price.
    About the Gemini Olympia 2100; If this is a XM-L2 (U2) version it should make an AWESOME light.

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    SSC P7 ( same chip of MJ-808 ) and Solarstorm X2 XM-L2

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    Solarstorm X2 XM-L2 - Medium




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    Thanks for the hints for the handlebar mounts, really useful.

    Here's the shots I made yesterday. Using an EOS-M ISO200, f5.6 4" exposure. All pics manual mode. Exposure is about the same as the requested settings of "camera settings: full manual, ISO-100, Exposure-6 seconds, Aperture-F4.0 (ISO200 f5.6 equals ISO100 f4.0), but 6 sec exposure would really overexpose things, so 4 sec is 1/2 stop less.

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    X2 on high:


    That tree is 15m away. The small tree in the background is about 30m away (look closely).

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    If it were me, I would adjust the aim a little higher. It's too blown out close in.

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    Just got a few of these, is it best to fully charge the battery packs before use or make sure they are run out before charging?

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    Great beamshots guys!

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    On the field (SSCP7 vs Solarstorm X2 XM-L2)

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    Solarstorm XM-L2 - High (the difference between the "medium" and "high" is greater than is seen in the photos, but the light is so strong in "high" and the iphone automatically adjusts the luminosity photo )


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    wow that's frigging bright! ordered a pair of the xl-m2 ones from lightmalls yesterday, can't wait to ride with these puppies!! Makes my old mightycross 350 look like a incandescent flashlight.

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    Zaang, I think you aimed the light very good, I ride mine the same way. Guys nice shots!

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    MK96 can you tell me the max run time you get (with the original battery) on: High, Medium and Low?

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    I don't have "original" chinese, I just have mine zippy flightmax 8000 mAh, with one SS-X2 runs about 4.5 hours on high. The chinese batteries ale lottery - so can't tell how much can you get out of yours. I remember that mine Skyray 3 XML light ran about 20 minutes on high, so I decided to throw chinese bat away and bought li-po.

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    You guys should really get some good batteries with a good charger. MTB Revolution is the place to get them. When I'm riding the last thing I need to worry about my light going dim. It seems like your getting a great deal when buying the whole set, but your really wasting your money in my opinion !! I use the Gemini charger !!
    The new Olympia 2100 light head is 144.00, Jim says it's a true 2100 lumens, we will see and it does use the XM-L2 u2 version as per Jim. "Sorry to talk about Gemini here"
    Going out tonight with 2-x2's on bars and the x3 on helmet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    I don't have "original" chinese, I just have mine zippy flightmax 8000 mAh, with one SS-X2 runs about 4.5 hours on high. The chinese batteries ale lottery - so can't tell how much can you get out of yours. I remember that mine Skyray 3 XML light ran about 20 minutes on high, so I decided to throw chinese bat away and bought li-po.
    Ok thanks.
    I tell to the operator of livechat (lightmalls) be honest and tell me the max run time, he tell they don't cheat costumers and they test the batterys, run on high normaly more than 3h and on medium 4-5 hours...... but..... i hope is true

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    Well to be honest I don't think that can be true, if the light draws on high ~2A then the chinese cells have to be around 6 Ah or 6000 mAh - that will do some new samsung, panasonic and sanyo cells. Or the light might be less powerfull than 2A so you get longer runtime. Mine SS X2 the XM-L U2 one from lightmalls draws ~2A on high - bought light head only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaang View Post
    Ok thanks.
    I tell to the operator of livechat (lightmalls) be honest and tell me the max run time, he tell they don't cheat costumers and they test the batterys, run on high normaly more than 3h and on medium 4-5 hours...... but..... i hope is true
    If it lasts 90 minutes on high you consider yourself lucky. Look at it this way, to get more than 3 hours they would need 2 sets of batteries that sell for ~$15/set (panasonic 3400s). Really think that's happening?

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    I have tested mine on full power at 1h 15 minutes on average. Medium power is about 2 h 45 minutes. I have not tried low power with the stock battery to be honest.

    I got one of the 12,000mah batteries from Lightmalls and tested that on all settings. High power was about 3 hours. Medium power lasted about 7 hours and low power I turned it off after 25 hours. BUT and here is the key thing. The light malls battery does not cut off like the original one so it will run for longer with reduced light and the high power setting after about 2 1/2 hours is dimming to about the same level as medium power or a little less and at 3 hours it is the same as low power so I turned it of not wanting to over discharge the battery pack. BUT for how powerful the lights are I would say medium power is strong enough for most rides.

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    Can you give me the link of that 12.000mha battery from lightmalls?
    The connection is compatible with the Solarstorm X2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morepower View Post
    I got one of the 12,000mah batteries from Lightmalls and tested that on all settings. High power was about 3 hours.
    That indicates that the 12,000mAh battery is really ~6,000mAh. Chinese spec inflation at its finest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    You guys should really get some good batteries with a good charger. MTB Revolution is the place to get them.
    Do all of the batteries from MTB Revolution work with the SolarStorm X2? Which do you recommend? My X2 has the screw-type connector with the o-ring. Are these batteries compatible with that?

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    I always say buy a better battery pack from whatever reputable seller and if you want a chinese light just buy the head only ... you can save ~10$ or more to spend it on a better pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaang View Post
    Can you give me the link of that 12.000mha battery from lightmalls?
    The connection is compatible with the Solarstorm X2?
    Buy 8.4V 12000mAh 8x18650 Battery pack For 8.4V LED Bicycle Light With Pouch - lightmalls bike light parts online Worldwide Free Shipping!!!


    Yes it works with the solar storm... I dont care what the actual capacity is as it is still double the original one and for the price it works and lasts long enough for me...

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    And you can screw the cable or only connect it?
    And you charge this battery with the original charger?

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    The threaded fitting will actually slip over the connector without damage to either part and it charges with the original charger. I contacted Lightmalls to check and they said it would work and I have run the battery flat a few times with no problems.

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    So with this battery the cable connection is not water proof...... Correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvanderwerf View Post
    wow that's frigging bright! ordered a pair of the xl-m2 ones from lightmalls yesterday, can't wait to ride with these puppies!! Makes my old mightycross 350 look like a incandescent flashlight.
    I ordered the same one. Be prepared for a long wait. I ordered mine at the beginning of October and I still don't have it. It's coming from Singapore.

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    I ordered mine on 11 October and received on 29 October (shipped from Singapore to Portugal)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaang View Post
    I ordered mine on 11 October and received on 29 October (shipped from Singapore to Portugal)
    Yeah, mine might be stuck in parcel purgatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaang View Post
    So with this battery the cable connection is not water proof...... Correct?
    As the outer threaded fitting fits so well over the none threaded connector I would say it is good enough to use even in the rain.. It would be better sealed than the rest of the battery pack...lol.. Standard and the bigger version I bought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoeddy View Post
    Do all of the batteries from MTB Revolution work with the SolarStorm X2? Which do you recommend? My X2 has the screw-type connector with the o-ring. Are these batteries compatible with that?
    Your threaded connector will only work with our LiPo battery which also comes with those threaded with o-ring connectors. If you are in Australia, we can send that to you. If not, we may be able to send you an extension cable (depending on where you are) and you'll have to de-solder and resolder a new cable and connector to make it "standard". It's easy enough else get an electronics geek to do it for you.

    For reference, Xeccon batteries comes with square connectors with standard 5.5 x 2.1 DC internals. It will fit MS type connectors but will only be fully waterproof when using the adaptor cable.

    We are seeing the array of variables with the SSX2. Connectors, driver boards, LED emitters, reflector cups, batteries and chargers.
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    I just ordered a SSx2 Xm-L2 head off ebay.
    Be interesting how it compares to the XML 3x I have on the bars.
    If it's not brighter, I'll use it on my helmet to replace my Hi-Max XML U2 single.

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    Just tested Two-x2 light heads mounted on bars, y cable going to Xeccon 6 Samsung cells 7800mAh battery. One- x3 on helmet powered by another Xeccon 6 cell battery. This give me all the light I would ever need and more !! "All lights on high the entire time"
    The 2-x2 lights on the bars "rear led button" started to flash at 2 hours 45 min. At 3 hours 15 min. went black. The x3 on the helmet went into flash at 3 hours 13 min. than went black 1 min. later. These were new batteries fully charged for the first time. Temp outside was 55 degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Just tested Two-x2 light heads mounted on bars, y cable going to Xeccon 6 Samsung cells 7800mAh battery. One- x3 on helmet powered by another Xeccon 6 cell battery. This give me all the light I would ever need and more !! "All lights on high the entire time"
    The 2-x2 lights on the bars "rear led button" started to flash at 2 hours 45 min. At 3 hours 15 min. went black. The x3 on the helmet went into flash at 3 hours 13 min. than went black 1 min. later. These were new batteries fully charged for the first time. Temp outside was 55 degree.
    Haha, that's awesome. Did you find yourself riding faster with all that light? I imagine it didn't even feel like a night ride.


    Is there any chance you could post a picture of the x3 on the helmet, I have no concept for how big it is. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Just tested Two-x2 light heads mounted on bars, y cable going to Xeccon 6 Samsung cells 7800mAh battery. One- x3 on helmet powered by another Xeccon 6 cell battery. This give me all the light I would ever need and more !! "All lights on high the entire time"
    The 2-x2 lights on the bars "rear led button" started to flash at 2 hours 45 min. At 3 hours 15 min. went black. The x3 on the helmet went into flash at 3 hours 13 min. than went black 1 min. later. These were new batteries fully charged for the first time. Temp outside was 55 degree.
    Hate it when Kir is right again. What is surprising to me is the high draw of the X3. 3 hours 15 mins is what I would normally get for a 3 x XM-L T6 powered by a 6600mAh battery, not a 7800. It'd be good if you can test indoors in front of a fan later. How did the Gemini 5200 go?
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    Check it out !!
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails SolarStorm/FandyFire X2-p1060224.jpg  

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    The last 45 min. of test was done in my garage with high powered fan blowing on lights.

    I will test the Gemini 4 cell samsung cells battery next. I think the batteries will do better after a few cycles of charging and discharging. Is that correct Leonard ? Using Gemini charger.

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    I'm impressed, it's much smaller than I thought it would be. Thanks for the pictures!

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