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    My 2¢. There isn't an explosion of bike light manufacturers in Shenzhen. What we are seeing in the past 6 months is a cheaper business model reflected in prices we see. These bike light assemblers get their casings/shells from a handful of suppliers sometimes brand pre-printed. They get their driver boards, reflectors and LEDs from another group of suppliers and then there's batteries and chargers all squeezed into a box set. This is partly the reason why there are price differences with the "same" model on different sites. We also see price difference in same sites at different times. Some here noted different driver boards for the same model they bought within a short time span.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbRevolution View Post
    My 2¢. There isn't an explosion of bike light manufacturers in Shenzhen. What we are seeing in the past 6 months is a cheaper business model reflected in prices we see. These bike light assemblers get their casings/shells from a handful of suppliers sometimes brand pre-printed. They get their driver boards, reflectors and LEDs from another group of suppliers and then there's batteries and chargers all squeezed into a box set. This is partly the reason why there are price differences with the "same" model on different sites. We also see price difference in same sites at different times. Some here noted different driver boards for the same model they bought within a short time span.

    There is no design team, product testing except that it lights up, large assembly overheads, stock holding, long term warranty and reputation protection or any other cost associated with a bike light manufacturer.
    I think we can all appreciate the difference between the real bike light industry and these high powered toys. Businesses like yours provide good service, a reputation to protect and all of the other things you mentioned. The problem is that, for the price, these toys work really well, and for those of us who ride at night only a handful of times a year, it's hard to justify spending 4-5 times as much on a real light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    I think we can all appreciate the difference between the real bike light industry and these high powered toys. Businesses like yours provide good service, a reputation to protect and all of the other things you mentioned. The problem is that, for the price, these toys work really well, and for those of us who ride at night only a handful of times a year, it's hard to justify spending 4-5 times as much on a real light.
    Absolutely agree. Please don't get me wrong. This may come as a shock to many but I actually welcome these products when we look at it long term. It gets people into night riding when it normally wouldn't because of high cost associated with dual set ups etc. How many entry-level bikes do we see on FleaBay saying "selling due to upgrade ridden only 5 times".

    These lights are bright and do perform well. I never said they perform bad. It's the batteries and chargers we should look out for.

    We really want people to get into night trail riding and night racing, which we strongly support. For those who didn't know, mtbRevolution was meant to be mtb R(acing) evolution [the evolution of mtb racing to endurance racing], not mtb Revolution but easier to pronounce the latter. Back on track, out of the masses getting excited about SolarStorm for instance there will be a percentage who will want better lights in the future. Some may even consider Lupine etc. We attempted to get in some Samsung 7800s to the US to compliment the SolarStorms. I did mention this in one of the threads. We are trying to move the stock to Colorado where they will be dispatched from there. Bloomington IN is out of action for now. I hope this clears it up for many reading this.

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    So back on topic of the Dual light, I've seen these as cheap as 35 delivered but also noticed this one in the link below, 51. Does anyone know where they might be able to buy the one in the link cheaper.

    $51.18 YINDING 2*Cree XM-L U2 4-Mode 1800-Lumen White LED Bike Light / Headlamp - 1*battery pack (4*18650 / 4400mAh / 2S2P) / US plug at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    The one in the link is even smaller. Also, regarding the Solarstorm or the one in the link, are they being made w/ the newest XMl2.

    Sorry if this has already been asked somewhere. I got lazy and thought I would just ask here.

    Thx

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    anyone know if I'll need an extension to go from SSX2 to top of a camelbak?

    I see two magicshine helmet mounts, one looks taller than the other:

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    Depending on where you ride, those mounts may work fine or may end up trying to tear your helmet off your head when the light catches on a tree branch. In post 35 of this thread, bakers method is much better IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vancbiker View Post
    Depending on where you ride, those mounts may work fine or may end up trying to tear your helmet off your head when the light catches on a tree branch. In post 35 of this thread, bakers method is much better IMO.
    thanks, he mentions a threaded hole, how is that hole used for the 3M Dual Lock tape?

    do I need the wider magicshine MJ-6058 mount for the SSX2 or the standard MJ-6028 works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe3 View Post
    thanks, he mentions a threaded hole, how is that hole used for the 3M Dual Lock tape?
    The hole is where the plastic block for the standard mount attaches. baker only mentioned it to state that it is a blind hole and does not penetrate into the inside of the light. That means he did not need to plug it before attaching the Dual Lock to the light body.

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    The solarstorm 2x Cree xml2 from lightmalls is original or a clone?

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    I saw this battery pack at lightmalls, this looks like a better shaped one to attach to frame than the other one suggested, but it appears to need a connector. Any ideas of what connector/cable I'd need with the x2? I think I may buy 2, mounted on either side of my stem on the bars

    Also what are people using as a helmet mount here for these?

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    High Quality 8.4v 4x18650 Battery Set with LED Bike Light - 18650 Battery - Batterie - DIY & Accessories Worldwide Free Shipping!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mb323323 View Post
    So back on topic of the Dual light, I've seen these as cheap as 35 delivered but also noticed this one in the link below, 51. Does anyone know where they might be able to buy the one in the link cheaper.

    $51.18 YINDING 2*Cree XM-L U2 4-Mode 1800-Lumen White LED Bike Light / Headlamp - 1*battery pack (4*18650 / 4400mAh / 2S2P) / US plug at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    The one in the link is even smaller
    I've seen Yinding (Gemini Duo clone) for $48.39 at Wallbuys.com but you're not going to find it much cheaper........yet.
    It's pretty new, people are just starting to receive them in the mail within the last couple/few weeks.
    It's a awesome light btw :-)
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    ordered the black SSX2 from fasttech on monday. 4 days later my order changed to "restocking". cancelled and just ordered from lightmalls.

    also, apparently fasttech has an issue shipping batterys, so may want to just avoid them.

    https://www.fasttech.com/forums/-/t/1037107

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    Who knows, I got two SSX2 XML U2 from them but likely they have slightly different driver from the X2 from fasttech.

    Quote Originally Posted by zaang View Post
    The solarstorm 2x Cree xml2 from lightmalls is original or a clone?

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    And are you completely satisfied with the lightmalls solarstorms?
    And the battery's run time?
    Do you prefer the fasttech or lightmalls solarstorms?
    Thanks

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    Yes I am happy with the both lights (same inner, same performance at 1.9A on high, ...). I do not have the battery from lightmalls, I have my own 8000mAh li-po pack. I don't prefer first or second, I just bought heads only. Even from the same seller you can get different versions :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by zaang View Post
    And are you completely satisfied with the lightmalls solarstorms?
    And the battery's run time?
    Do you prefer the fasttech or lightmalls solarstorms?
    Thanks

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    Where you buy the battery?

    Thanks

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    Hi, the battery is from Hobbyking and protection module for the battery from ebay.

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    Ok you don't buy it like a battery pack. You make your battery pack with some parts.
    I don't know how to do that......

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    Yes it is a sort of DIY :-)

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    I ran an actual runtime test last night as I was curious as to runtimes in relation to the green battery indicators. Solarstorm x2 XML with a battery pack that I know to have about 3900 mah capacity.

    Test run on medium

    17 minutes in the green battery indicators went from 3 to 2.
    51 minutes in the green battery indicators went from 2 to 1.
    3 hours and 6 minutes in the green battery indicators went from 1 to flashing.
    The intensity of the light seems about the same as at the start, but it's hard to tell.
    4 hours and 10 minutes that light went out.
    The light is noticeably dimmer at the end as expected.

    So my advise, when the light starts flashing, switch back to low and you should have plenty of time to get home!

    As for the stock battery, I could re-run the test, but knowing the numbers (one of my stock batteries tested out around 2000 mah) would mean roughly half on all the above numbers. Still IMO, not bad for a $35 light set! So much better than the days of the BLT lights!


    Edit - battery took 3727 mah on the recharge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Grumpy View Post
    I ran an actual runtime test last night as I was curious as to runtimes in relation to the green battery indicators. Solarstorm x2 XML with a battery pack that I know to have about 3900 mah capacity.

    Test run on medium

    17 minutes in the green battery indicators went from 3 to 2.
    51 minutes in the green battery indicators went from 2 to 1.
    3 hours and 6 minutes in the green battery indicators went from 1 to flashing.
    The intensity of the light seems about the same as at the start, but it's hard to tell.
    4 hours and 10 minutes that light went out.
    The light is noticeably dimmer at the end as expected.

    So my advise, when the light starts flashing, switch back to low and you should have plenty of time to get home!

    As for the stock battery, I could re-run the test, but knowing the numbers (one of my stock batteries tested out around 2000 mah) would mean roughly half on all the above numbers. Still IMO, not bad for a $35 light set! So much better than the days of the BLT lights!
    All of this tells me that the battery indicators on these are practically useless. According to what you said when you came up on the final indicator you still had two hour of run time left. That's not how indicators are supposed to be spaced. When the final indicator comes up you should have 20-30 minutes left ( depending on total battery capacity )

    At least you did the smart thing by testing it. Now you KNOW how to interpret what the indicators are telling you "using the battery you wish to use". Others using a different battery might get a completely different ratio of readings. The point is: Test your run times BEFORE you go out. Know how to interpret the indicators with YOUR battery and you're good to go. Mr. G....good show. Thanks for the heads-up.

    All said, the indicators on different lamps ( depending on brand and type ) will work differently.

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    Yes it's to bad the indicators aren't a bit more useful, the battery I'm using is still a Chinese pack, just good capacity. They might prove better with quality cells (Samsung/Sanyo) as they may or may not have as much voltage drop. Like Cat said, every head and battery is different, so if you wanna know, test it as best as possible in a controlled environment.

    Fan, light, battery, laptop with webcam, 10 minutes of scrolling through a video, done! Easy to do for the sake of knowing!
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    Battery indicators are not useless, but they will show estimated battery capacity ONLY when light is turned off.
    When its turned on you'll get huge voltage drop because chinese batteries/wires are crap. Batteries can't handle stable voltage under load and wires are too long and too thin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    Battery indicators are not useless, but they will show estimated battery capacity ONLY when light is turned off.
    When its turned on you'll get huge voltage drop because chinese batteries/wires are crap. Batteries can't handle stable voltage under load and wires are too long and too thin.
    This is a valid point. Once a battery indicator goes off on my SolarStorm x2, it never turns back on unless I disconnect/reconnect the battery. Turning the light off the indicator remains as it was... perhaps this is a difference in the different heads out there? So, just to be clear, if the x2 goes from 3 to 2 indicators, cycling power doesn't change the state of the indicators. Only disconnecting/reconnecting the head to the battery will reset it.

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    A while back I was testing one of my D/X lamp(s) with the provided 4-cell battery. The lamp had indicators. When the red indicator came on the lamp only stayed on for another 2 minutes. That of course is not what I was expecting and certainly if I see red I want to have enough time to do something other than watch the lamp go out. Ideally if the last indicator comes up you want to power down the lamp to minimum to get the most out of your battery OR switch out the battery with a back-up. Once the PCB on the battery cuts off the power your done.
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    y'know, the batteries for these lights are cheap enough <$20 that you can have a spare on the trail if you're worried about battery life.

    Or you can go the dynamo route like me. Never have to worry about battery again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbubbles View Post
    y'know, the batteries for these lights are cheap enough <$20 that you can have a spare on the trail if you're worried about battery life.

    Or you can go the dynamo route like me. Never have to worry about battery again.
    This is true. A cheap 2 or 4-cell can provide that extra safety margin when in doubt. Personally, I have good batteries and never worry about run time.

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    According to the Ebay listing, "As the leader of night riding,it will bring you infinite light!" I would love to have infinite light

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    I just got the SolarStorm X3, went on 2.5 hour ride with the x3 on helmet. Really like this light, light weight 130g. The x2 was on my bars, weight 99g. Will try it the other way around next outing. I would say the x2 is slightly brighter than my Gemini Duo rated at 1400 lumens, but the Duo is more like 1200 I would say. The x3 at 40.00 bucks for the headlight just by itself can't be beat. This light has good spot along with good spread.
    I would say the x3 compares to my best light Serfas True 1500. The True 1500 is just too heavy for the helmet. I may just sell it now !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    I just got the SolarStorm X3, went on 2.5 hour ride with the x3 on helmet. Really like this light, light weight 130g. The x2 was on my bars, weight 99g. Will try it the other way around next outing. I would say the x2 is slightly brighter than my Gemini Duo rated at 1400 lumens, but the Duo is more like 1200 I would say. The x3 at 40.00 bucks for the headlight just by itself can't be beat. This light has good spot along with good spread.
    I would say the x3 compares to my best light Serfas True 1500. The True 1500 is just too heavy for the helmet. I may just sell it now !!!
    Any chance on a beam shot comparison between the x2 and the x3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Grumpy View Post
    Any chance on a beam shot comparison between the x2 and the x3.
    +1
    Is x3 noticeable brighter than x2?

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    Cat will get his light and write a review, just be patient ;-)

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    Yes I'm sure Cat will test them !! The x3 is much brighter than the x2, its well made and I like the button action. Easy to find and use. I use the Gemini 4 cell soft case battery, the Magicshine 4 cell battery in the Neoprene cover is nice too. From Actionled.

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    For the battery issue... Can't you just buy 4 new batteries and replace them with the ones in the blue or black Chinese battery pack and be good to go?

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    You can if you have a spot welding machine or skills to solder li-ion (not recommended, very easy to overheat the battery).

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    You can just buy high-quality battery pack from reputable vendor and be good to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetta_mike View Post
    Ordered on of these yesterday. It will be used on my helmet. My previously helmet mounted Magicshine 808 with move to the bars. I'll update when I get a ride in with it.
    Got a ride in last night with my X2 on the helmet and my MS 808 on the bars. First time using two lights and I'm loving it. I will be looking into getting a wide beam lens for the Magic Shine. The ride was only an hour and half, so no comment on battery life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    I just got the SolarStorm X3, went on 2.5 hour ride with the x3 on helmet. Really like this light, light weight 130g. The x2 was on my bars, weight 99g. Will try it the other way around next outing. I would say the x2 is slightly brighter than my Gemini Duo rated at 1400 lumens, but the Duo is more like 1200 I would say. The x3 at 40.00 bucks for the headlight just by itself can't be beat. This light has good spot along with good spread.
    I would say the x3 compares to my best light Serfas True 1500. The True 1500 is just too heavy for the helmet. I may just sell it now !!!
    \

    Hi dgw7000,
    Great post! Where did you buy your SolarStorm X3 from, if you mind me asking?

    Thanks!

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    outdoor-lights on ebay, item # 261313063177

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    outdoor-lights on ebay, item # 261313063177
    those look like XLM leds, I bet it would rock with 3 x XLM2 leds, or maybe someone has put one together already?

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    One of my 6cell welded leads came loose and I had my son solder it back on, I guess it fried the battery, hasn't worked for more than 20mins since.


    Quote Originally Posted by OPC View Post
    For the battery issue... Can't you just buy 4 new batteries and replace them with the ones in the blue or black Chinese battery pack and be good to go?

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    In reference to the X3

    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    Cat will get his light and write a review, just be patient ;-)
    MK96, I'm still waiting for D/X. I should of had it a week ago. Looks like I'll have to contact the rep to see whats up. I have a feeling that somehow it was never sent.

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    https://www.fasttech.com/products/1/...-4-mode-2000lm
    XML2 version, $32 shipped with BLF coupon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/1/...-4-mode-2000lm
    XML2 version, $32 shipped with BLF coupon.
    Wow, that's a great deal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/1/...-4-mode-2000lm
    XML2 version, $32 shipped with BLF coupon.
    BLF Coupon?

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    There is now a small issue that HK airmail does not accept lithium cells,all packages containing lithium are sent back as undeliverable. My lights from KD were sent in 2 parts: the heads with airmail and batteries with surface mail ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    In reference to the X3. MK96, I'm still waiting for D/X. I should of had it a week ago. Looks like I'll have to contact the rep to see whats up. I have a feeling that somehow it was never sent.
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    I got my solar storm X2 off ebay. Really happy with it too.... I ran the original battery and got 1h 20 minutes on high and just under 3 hours on the medium setting. I wanted a little more battery life so ordered up this battery from Lightmalls.

    Buy 8.4V 12000mAh 8x18650 Battery pack For 8.4V LED Bicycle Light With Pouch - lightmalls bike light parts online Worldwide Free Shipping!!!

    I have not had chance to run it on high until it goes flat yet and due to the heat I have only run it on low for 25 hours continually then turned it off with the led flashing. It may have lasted another 20 minutes or over an hour possibly as it had been flashing for a couple of hours already.

    I am running it on the mid setting at the moment and it has done 3 and half hours with all three led's still showing full power. If I can get 3 to 4 hours on full power it would be more than enough for almost all of the rides I may do.. Plus I can carry the smaller original battery in my back pack as a back up and still get another 1 to 3 hours depending on which setting I need to use. But I think the mid setting is more than good enough to get me home in almost any condition as it is really a good bright light compared to what I was used to before....

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    Saw this one on ebay and thought I'd share it. It's kinda weird, but cheap enough that people could just use the light head to go with their 4-cell battery. Might have to get creative to mount it on a helmet.

    2000 Lumen 5 Modes Dual Head Bicycle Light Headlamp with 2 CREE XM L U2 LEDs EA9 | eBay

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    It's not clear whether it is 4.2v or 8.4v variant. I've seen this battery container in other light, where it was parallel-connection type...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Archie- View Post
    It's not clear whether it is 4.2v or 8.4v variant. I've seen this battery container in other light, where it was parallel-connection type...
    ...not only that but the battery holder requires only two cells and is connected directly to the lamp ( no two-way plug ). Interesting though because the lamp looks like it is using reflectors that are OP'd. Can't beat the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2002maniac View Post
    I'm a bit of a lighing noob (my only light is a niterider 600). I just ordered a "welltop" light from amazon that appears to be the same as the lights discussed here. What do you guys think? I paid $25 shipped so I won't be too disappointed if it's crap, but it seemed like a good gamble.

    Amazon Welltop
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_C View Post
    I noticed that the driver is listed as High-Mid-Low, which is reverse of the SolarStorm one I have. There is no mention of Hold for Flash mode. When you get it, please report back on the mode arrangement.

    The picture sure looks like the SolarStorm logo and X2 markings
    Turns out it's not a "Welltop" at all. It's a Solarstorm X2. I'm very happy with it so far.

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    One thing to keep in mind, the x2 and x3 have really sharp edges. This can really dangerous. Both the Gemini Duo and Xera have a much smoother light pattern. The x3 Solorstorm is best used on the head. For the money can't complain !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    One thing to keep in mind, the x2 and x3 have really sharp edges. This can really dangerous.
    I wouldn't exactly say sharp. Though I agree the right angle edges of fins on the font and back could break skin in a serious crash. But realistically, if the accident causes you to hit the light with enough force to result in that kind of damage, other parts of your body are hitting the bike or ground pretty hard too. Those impacts are likely to cause more acute injuries than hitting the SS.

    From a safety point of view, yes it would have been good for the corners of the upper fins to be rounded. I think this is a case where style won out over safety. I doubt injuries in an accident even entered the minds of the designers.

    It is a "sharp" looking light, that stands out as different from others that were on the market when this was introduced in the spring. It still looks unique today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightnut View Post
    Saw this one on ebay and thought I'd share it. It's kinda weird, but cheap enough that people could just use the light head to go with their 4-cell battery. Might have to get creative to mount it on a helmet.
    Quote Originally Posted by -Archie- View Post
    It's not clear whether it is 4.2v or 8.4v variant. I've seen this battery container in other light, where it was parallel-connection type...
    There isn't necessarily anything wrong with a 2P power source. If there were other design changes such such as the driver and LEDs connected in parallel rather than series. (Maybe the builders and modders can chime in on that.) There are many single 18650 cell flashlights that drive the LEDs as brightly as our 2S2P bike lights.

    I also noticed there are no battery charge indicators. The front bezel is quite different and the back attaches with sunken screws/bolts. Willing to bet a single pair of screws hold both front and back in place. The cable glands looks quite anemic compared to the SS.

    Plusses: You get a quick release handle bar mount, and the head mount looks lower profile than the standard MS style. And those OP reflectors sure caught my eye too.

    But considering you can get the original SS X2 "light head only" for $20.65 or the real XM-L2 version for $23.50, I'm not sure the potential down sides of this model are worth the risk. Of course if someone wants to buy it, and give it the once over, I'd gladly read the review with gusto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    One thing to keep in mind, the x2 and x3 have really sharp edges. This can really dangerous. Both the Gemini Duo and Xera have a much smoother light pattern. The x3 Solorstorm is best used on the head. For the money can't complain !!
    MTB'ing is inherently dangerous in and of itself. Any bad fall can have you hitting a tree, a sharp stick, big or sharp rocks or any combo thereof. Getting hurt by the edges on a SSX2 would take, "The Perfect Storm" so to speak. Even if you did brush up against one during a fall the lamp will move ( if using the O-ring mounts )
    All things considered, I certainly wouldn't let the lamp design keep me from buying one. Simply put; really not important enough to worry about.

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    Due to my wonky handlebars, I cannot mount this light perfectly, it always shines to the right (or left). I could use something to attach it to the stem in stead of the bars, is that available?

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    Stem Cap Light Mount from Paul Component Engineering

    Paul components stem light mount should work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonoskar View Post
    Due to my wonky handlebars, I cannot mount this light perfectly, it always shines to the right (or left). I could use something to attach it to the stem in stead of the bars, is that available?
    I use the MT204 mount and its great. Its super light, and if you want you can mount more than one thing to it.

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    I use the MT-201P mount for center light: works fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggdog View Post
    Stem Cap Light Mount from Paul Component Engineering

    Paul components stem light mount should work!
    I feel this will mount the light too close to the rider for standing up while climbing. You'll get lots of glare in your eyes if it is not further forward. I had to build a "hood" for one of my early lights to prevent that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonoskar View Post
    Due to my wonky handlebars, I cannot mount this light perfectly, it always shines to the right (or left). I could use something to attach it to the stem in stead of the bars, is that available?
    I use the Action LED mount also, works great but is a bit slippery for MS type o-ring mounting so I epoxied inner tube strips to it, makes for a snug fit.

    SolarStorm/FandyFire X2-4s-681.jpg

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    I'm From Portugal and today arrived my SolarStorm X2 XM-L2 version from lightmalls (ordered on 11 Out 2013, arrived today 29 Out 2013).






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    Tonight going with 2-SS x2 on the bars powered by my new Xeccon 6 cell, Samsung 7800 mAh soft shell battery. Leonard is another great guy to deal with, great service better pricing than Action, sorry Jim !! Supper fast shipping, 6 cells for slightly more money than 4 cell from Gemini.
    I will use the x3 again on the head power by the Gemini 4 cell battery. Thinking about getting just the new Gemini Olympia 2100 light head. Not much info yet on it !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Tonight going with 2-SS x2 on the bars powered by my new Xeccon 6 cell, Samsung 7800 mAh soft shell battery. Leonard is another great guy to deal with, great service better pricing than Action, sorry Jim !! Supper fast shipping, 6 cells for slightly more money than 4 cell from Gemini.
    I will use the x3 again on the head power by the Gemini 4 cell battery. Thinking about getting just the new Gemini Olympia 2100 light head. Not much info yet on it !!
    MTB Revolution; great place to buy good batteries at a great price.
    About the Gemini Olympia 2100; If this is a XM-L2 (U2) version it should make an AWESOME light.

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    SSC P7 ( same chip of MJ-808 ) and Solarstorm X2 XM-L2

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    Solarstorm X2 XM-L2 - Medium




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    Thanks for the hints for the handlebar mounts, really useful.

    Here's the shots I made yesterday. Using an EOS-M ISO200, f5.6 4" exposure. All pics manual mode. Exposure is about the same as the requested settings of "camera settings: full manual, ISO-100, Exposure-6 seconds, Aperture-F4.0 (ISO200 f5.6 equals ISO100 f4.0), but 6 sec exposure would really overexpose things, so 4 sec is 1/2 stop less.

    X2 on low:


    X2 on medium:


    X2 on high:


    That tree is 15m away. The small tree in the background is about 30m away (look closely).

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    If it were me, I would adjust the aim a little higher. It's too blown out close in.

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    Just got a few of these, is it best to fully charge the battery packs before use or make sure they are run out before charging?

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    Great beamshots guys!

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    On the field (SSCP7 vs Solarstorm X2 XM-L2)

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    Solarstorm XM-L2 - High (the difference between the "medium" and "high" is greater than is seen in the photos, but the light is so strong in "high" and the iphone automatically adjusts the luminosity photo )


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    wow that's frigging bright! ordered a pair of the xl-m2 ones from lightmalls yesterday, can't wait to ride with these puppies!! Makes my old mightycross 350 look like a incandescent flashlight.

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    Zaang, I think you aimed the light very good, I ride mine the same way. Guys nice shots!

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    MK96 can you tell me the max run time you get (with the original battery) on: High, Medium and Low?

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    I don't have "original" chinese, I just have mine zippy flightmax 8000 mAh, with one SS-X2 runs about 4.5 hours on high. The chinese batteries ale lottery - so can't tell how much can you get out of yours. I remember that mine Skyray 3 XML light ran about 20 minutes on high, so I decided to throw chinese bat away and bought li-po.

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    You guys should really get some good batteries with a good charger. MTB Revolution is the place to get them. When I'm riding the last thing I need to worry about my light going dim. It seems like your getting a great deal when buying the whole set, but your really wasting your money in my opinion !! I use the Gemini charger !!
    The new Olympia 2100 light head is 144.00, Jim says it's a true 2100 lumens, we will see and it does use the XM-L2 u2 version as per Jim. "Sorry to talk about Gemini here"
    Going out tonight with 2-x2's on bars and the x3 on helmet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    I don't have "original" chinese, I just have mine zippy flightmax 8000 mAh, with one SS-X2 runs about 4.5 hours on high. The chinese batteries ale lottery - so can't tell how much can you get out of yours. I remember that mine Skyray 3 XML light ran about 20 minutes on high, so I decided to throw chinese bat away and bought li-po.
    Ok thanks.
    I tell to the operator of livechat (lightmalls) be honest and tell me the max run time, he tell they don't cheat costumers and they test the batterys, run on high normaly more than 3h and on medium 4-5 hours...... but..... i hope is true

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    Well to be honest I don't think that can be true, if the light draws on high ~2A then the chinese cells have to be around 6 Ah or 6000 mAh - that will do some new samsung, panasonic and sanyo cells. Or the light might be less powerfull than 2A so you get longer runtime. Mine SS X2 the XM-L U2 one from lightmalls draws ~2A on high - bought light head only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaang View Post
    Ok thanks.
    I tell to the operator of livechat (lightmalls) be honest and tell me the max run time, he tell they don't cheat costumers and they test the batterys, run on high normaly more than 3h and on medium 4-5 hours...... but..... i hope is true
    If it lasts 90 minutes on high you consider yourself lucky. Look at it this way, to get more than 3 hours they would need 2 sets of batteries that sell for ~$15/set (panasonic 3400s). Really think that's happening?

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    I have tested mine on full power at 1h 15 minutes on average. Medium power is about 2 h 45 minutes. I have not tried low power with the stock battery to be honest.

    I got one of the 12,000mah batteries from Lightmalls and tested that on all settings. High power was about 3 hours. Medium power lasted about 7 hours and low power I turned it off after 25 hours. BUT and here is the key thing. The light malls battery does not cut off like the original one so it will run for longer with reduced light and the high power setting after about 2 1/2 hours is dimming to about the same level as medium power or a little less and at 3 hours it is the same as low power so I turned it of not wanting to over discharge the battery pack. BUT for how powerful the lights are I would say medium power is strong enough for most rides.

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    Can you give me the link of that 12.000mha battery from lightmalls?
    The connection is compatible with the Solarstorm X2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morepower View Post
    I got one of the 12,000mah batteries from Lightmalls and tested that on all settings. High power was about 3 hours.
    That indicates that the 12,000mAh battery is really ~6,000mAh. Chinese spec inflation at its finest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    You guys should really get some good batteries with a good charger. MTB Revolution is the place to get them.
    Do all of the batteries from MTB Revolution work with the SolarStorm X2? Which do you recommend? My X2 has the screw-type connector with the o-ring. Are these batteries compatible with that?

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    I always say buy a better battery pack from whatever reputable seller and if you want a chinese light just buy the head only ... you can save ~10$ or more to spend it on a better pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaang View Post
    Can you give me the link of that 12.000mha battery from lightmalls?
    The connection is compatible with the Solarstorm X2?
    Buy 8.4V 12000mAh 8x18650 Battery pack For 8.4V LED Bicycle Light With Pouch - lightmalls bike light parts online Worldwide Free Shipping!!!


    Yes it works with the solar storm... I dont care what the actual capacity is as it is still double the original one and for the price it works and lasts long enough for me...

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    And you can screw the cable or only connect it?
    And you charge this battery with the original charger?

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    The threaded fitting will actually slip over the connector without damage to either part and it charges with the original charger. I contacted Lightmalls to check and they said it would work and I have run the battery flat a few times with no problems.

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    So with this battery the cable connection is not water proof...... Correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvanderwerf View Post
    wow that's frigging bright! ordered a pair of the xl-m2 ones from lightmalls yesterday, can't wait to ride with these puppies!! Makes my old mightycross 350 look like a incandescent flashlight.
    I ordered the same one. Be prepared for a long wait. I ordered mine at the beginning of October and I still don't have it. It's coming from Singapore.

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    I ordered mine on 11 October and received on 29 October (shipped from Singapore to Portugal)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaang View Post
    I ordered mine on 11 October and received on 29 October (shipped from Singapore to Portugal)
    Yeah, mine might be stuck in parcel purgatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaang View Post
    So with this battery the cable connection is not water proof...... Correct?
    As the outer threaded fitting fits so well over the none threaded connector I would say it is good enough to use even in the rain.. It would be better sealed than the rest of the battery pack...lol.. Standard and the bigger version I bought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoeddy View Post
    Do all of the batteries from MTB Revolution work with the SolarStorm X2? Which do you recommend? My X2 has the screw-type connector with the o-ring. Are these batteries compatible with that?
    Your threaded connector will only work with our LiPo battery which also comes with those threaded with o-ring connectors. If you are in Australia, we can send that to you. If not, we may be able to send you an extension cable (depending on where you are) and you'll have to de-solder and resolder a new cable and connector to make it "standard". It's easy enough else get an electronics geek to do it for you.

    For reference, Xeccon batteries comes with square connectors with standard 5.5 x 2.1 DC internals. It will fit MS type connectors but will only be fully waterproof when using the adaptor cable.

    We are seeing the array of variables with the SSX2. Connectors, driver boards, LED emitters, reflector cups, batteries and chargers.
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    I just ordered a SSx2 Xm-L2 head off ebay.
    Be interesting how it compares to the XML 3x I have on the bars.
    If it's not brighter, I'll use it on my helmet to replace my Hi-Max XML U2 single.

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    Just tested Two-x2 light heads mounted on bars, y cable going to Xeccon 6 Samsung cells 7800mAh battery. One- x3 on helmet powered by another Xeccon 6 cell battery. This give me all the light I would ever need and more !! "All lights on high the entire time"
    The 2-x2 lights on the bars "rear led button" started to flash at 2 hours 45 min. At 3 hours 15 min. went black. The x3 on the helmet went into flash at 3 hours 13 min. than went black 1 min. later. These were new batteries fully charged for the first time. Temp outside was 55 degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Just tested Two-x2 light heads mounted on bars, y cable going to Xeccon 6 Samsung cells 7800mAh battery. One- x3 on helmet powered by another Xeccon 6 cell battery. This give me all the light I would ever need and more !! "All lights on high the entire time"
    The 2-x2 lights on the bars "rear led button" started to flash at 2 hours 45 min. At 3 hours 15 min. went black. The x3 on the helmet went into flash at 3 hours 13 min. than went black 1 min. later. These were new batteries fully charged for the first time. Temp outside was 55 degree.
    Haha, that's awesome. Did you find yourself riding faster with all that light? I imagine it didn't even feel like a night ride.


    Is there any chance you could post a picture of the x3 on the helmet, I have no concept for how big it is. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Just tested Two-x2 light heads mounted on bars, y cable going to Xeccon 6 Samsung cells 7800mAh battery. One- x3 on helmet powered by another Xeccon 6 cell battery. This give me all the light I would ever need and more !! "All lights on high the entire time"
    The 2-x2 lights on the bars "rear led button" started to flash at 2 hours 45 min. At 3 hours 15 min. went black. The x3 on the helmet went into flash at 3 hours 13 min. than went black 1 min. later. These were new batteries fully charged for the first time. Temp outside was 55 degree.
    Hate it when Kir is right again. What is surprising to me is the high draw of the X3. 3 hours 15 mins is what I would normally get for a 3 x XM-L T6 powered by a 6600mAh battery, not a 7800. It'd be good if you can test indoors in front of a fan later. How did the Gemini 5200 go?
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    Check it out !!
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    The last 45 min. of test was done in my garage with high powered fan blowing on lights.

    I will test the Gemini 4 cell samsung cells battery next. I think the batteries will do better after a few cycles of charging and discharging. Is that correct Leonard ? Using Gemini charger.

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    I'm impressed, it's much smaller than I thought it would be. Thanks for the pictures!

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