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    Sweet! Wish I had not purchased the Trustfire TR-D010 and purchased one of these...
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    Interesting...my thoughts....Somewhat ugly but if you must have a three emitter lamp this could be the most functional. Likely good at heat dissipation as well. Personally, I like the smaller form factor of the duel emitter lamps. If the Solarstorm X2 comes out in a XM-L2 version I might just buy one. ( Unless Gloworm comes out with an XM-L2 version of their *X2 first ... * not to be confused with the Solorstorm X2 )

    Strange though that they claim this lamp is 6000 lumen.

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    Ok this one looks a no-brainer for $38 (if the 5% discount coupon still works), even with a crappy battery. I'm going to order it.

    The only potential downside to me is that the beam looks too throwy with a definite central hot spot. Has anyone come across a compatible optics that would make it more diffuse yet? I found some 23mm optics, but it appears that it would require some machining to fit.

    Is the MJ-880 optics compatible? What about this one: Action-LED-Lights — Wide Angle Lens for the MJ-880 ?

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    Solarstorm X2 on sale now

    Hi guys,

    Just want to let you know that DX has the Solarstorm X2 on sale for $43.50 right now, but with limited quantities. Other bike lights available at a discount and we are dispatching these from the warehouse within 72 hrs.

    Solarstorm X2 Sale

    We have the black and red available.

    ~joseph

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    Its cheaper on AliExpress.

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    Aliexpress.com : Buy 2013Hotsale!! SolarStorm X2 Bike Light 2 CREE U2 LED 2000LM Waterproof Bicycle Light + Intelligent Power Indicate,Freeshiping from Reliable Bike Light suppliers on Shenzhen East Face Sci&Tech Co., Ltd
    Then go to "sale items", grab $3 off $30 coupon = new SS X2 for $32 shipped!
    Expect a crappy ~2000mAh battery though, but still worth it for the light alone.

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    Kir, good deal that one. The other deal isn't bad either really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khrystyan27 View Post
    No, it is contrary. If i will buy this light, i am planning to change the optics with aspherical ones.

    For me, it isn't enough throw.
    Did you ever find optics replacement for the Solarstorm? If so, where?

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    For less than $35, I plan to buy the SSX2. I see quite a few mentioned that this may come with crappy batteries. Can someone post a link to where I can get some quality batteries without mods. I just know it's 18650 batteries, but I don't know if they all have the same connections. I'm sure I'm using wrong terms here. But any help is greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XCfanatic View Post
    For less than $35, I plan to buy the SSX2. I see quite a few mentioned that this may come with crappy batteries. Can someone post a link to where I can get some quality batteries without mods. I just know it's 18650 batteries, but I don't know if they all have the same connections. I'm sure I'm using wrong terms here. But any help is greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.
    I've been waiting for the very same information. From what I can tell, this is a decent case (throw the batteries out):

    4 x 18650 Battery Set for Bicycle Light-in Charger from Consumer Electronics on Aliexpress.com

    and you can get a good battery here:

    $16.21 Panasonic NCR18650B Protected Rechargeable 3400mAh 3.7V 18650 Lithium Batteries 2-pack - authentic cells / 2-pack / overcharge + over-discharge protection at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    Though I admit I don't know the difference between all the kinds on the drop-down. (assume flat, protected, but am not sure on the mAh)

    I *think* this could allow you to build up a decent pack without needing to have soldering skills etc.

    Wish I had more info, maybe someone can clarify or suggest something better.

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    $14.79 Panasonic NCR18650B Rechargeable 3400mAh 3.7V 18650 Lithium Batteries 2-pack - authentic cells / 2-pack at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
    You need these batteries to fit in that battery pack.
    Also these batteries have to be discharged to 2.7v to get full capacity out of them, not sure it that battery pack protection circuit will allow that...will test that a bit later.

    And update on these $35 solarstorms - they actually have good batteries! Well, good for chinese batteries They have about 3300mAh capacity, I just tested 2 of them.
    So expect about 1.5 hours runtime on high and longer on low/medium - which is not bad, you could always use that battery as a spare one for long nite rides. For main battery I still recommend to get something with higher capacity.

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    Thank you Kir and GH. Just placed the order for the SSX2. I'll see how the batteries go. For $35, not much to lose.

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    I just found the X2 - Light Head Only over on Ali Express.

    SolarStorm X2 2*Cree XM-L U2 2000-Lumen Led Bike Light Head - Black (Without Battery Pack) + Free Shipping US $25.92

    Are they going to start giving them away soon?

    Of course Ali is a storefront for Many different sellers. It may be a race to the lowest price amongst retailers. I don't think you can directly compare Ali to an outlet like FastTech, which is a single store, with a consistent and better return policy.

    I really like my X2, and was thinking of buying a second. I'm not sure I can turn down a backup light head for $26. Or should I buy it with an OK battery for $10 more?

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    I've found that this light is jamming my wireless BBB BCP-32w cycle computer's transmission, rendering it unusable. That is pretty bad, and I'm now considering either switching to a wired computer (which I wouldn't like to do), or replacing the light's driver or the entire light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_C View Post
    I just found the X2 - Light Head Only over on Ali Express.

    SolarStorm X2 2*Cree XM-L U2 2000-Lumen Led Bike Light Head - Black (Without Battery Pack) + Free Shipping US $25.92

    Are they going to start giving them away soon?

    Of course Ali is a storefront for Many different sellers. It may be a race to the lowest price amongst retailers. I don't think you can directly compare Ali to an outlet like FastTech, which is a single store, with a consistent and better return policy.

    I really like my X2, and was thinking of buying a second. I'm not sure I can turn down a backup light head for $26. Or should I buy it with an OK battery for $10 more?
    Nice find Ian! That's going to be hard to pass up. The complete set is just $34.99. It might be worth the extra cost for a spare battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_C View Post
    I just found the X2 - Light Head Only over on Ali Express.

    SolarStorm X2 2*Cree XM-L U2 2000-Lumen Led Bike Light Head - Black (Without Battery Pack) + Free Shipping US $25.92

    Are they going to start giving them away soon?

    Of course Ali is a storefront for Many different sellers. It may be a race to the lowest price amongst retailers. I don't think you can directly compare Ali to an outlet like FastTech, which is a single store, with a consistent and better return policy.

    I really like my X2, and was thinking of buying a second. I'm not sure I can turn down a backup light head for $26. Or should I buy it with an OK battery for $10 more?
    So what battery pack would be best to get if you bought the light only?

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    Nice Find!!
    Inspired by Wall-E?
    SolarStorm/FandyFire X2-wall-e-wallpaper-wall-e-6412320-1280-800.jpg

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    2 more lights that are based on SSX2:
    http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S022347 different case, probably the same driver/leds/modes setup.
    NITEFIRE HERO2 3 x Cree XM-L U2 2100lm 4-Mode Cool White Bicycle Light - Black (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme 3rd led added between the 2 side leds, looks interesting.

    Now for some bad news - I received another batch of SSX2s from ali for $35 and the batteries in them are HORRIBLE. Previous batch had batteries in black heatshrink and they had about 3500mAh capacity. Latest batch (from same seller, same item, same price) has blue heatshrink and these batteries have 1500-1600mAh capacity, made from 700-800mAh cells. This battery will last for about 40 minutes on high, here is a discharge graph from my Imax:


    This is bad, but since even "good" 3500mAh batteries don't have enough capacity for a light that draws 2.3A on high - I don't really care, gonna replace the cells anyway. Still be warned that the new batches have completely unusable batteries.

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    ^ Was just wondering about trying out the blue shrink wrapped batteries. Imo no biggie if its a throw away. Having no testing equipment, I need to rely on trustworthy resellers or dealers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_C View Post
    I just found the X2 - Light Head Only over on Ali Express.

    SolarStorm X2 2*Cree XM-L U2 2000-Lumen Led Bike Light Head - Black (Without Battery Pack) + Free Shipping US $25.92


    Are they going to start giving them away soon?

    Of course Ali is a storefront for Many different sellers. It may be a race to the lowest price amongst retailers. I don't think you can directly compare Ali to an outlet like FastTech, which is a single store, with a consistent and better return policy.

    I really like my X2, and was thinking of buying a second. I'm not sure I can turn down a backup light head for $26. Or should I buy it with an OK battery for $10 more?
    You have to be real careful when buying stuff from the Chinese web sites. On the link you provided the X2 being sold only has three modes, high-low-strobe. There is no mid-mode like with the other sellers. That would be the deal breaker for me.

    D/X sells a version of the X2 under a different name. The ones they sell only list an output no more than 600 lumens. These things are being cloned like crazy. Be careful who you buy from.

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    Measured 2nd battery, its even worse!

    1072mAh on discharge, how is that even possible? Thats a new record for low capacity batteries from everything that I've tested. Gotta open it up tomorrow and measure capacity of every cell, I can hardly believe that chinese manufacturers make 18650 cells with 500mAh capacity

    These lights also have different, more simple driver - I've already seen 3 driver types in SSX2 bodies and spotted 4.2v versions on aliexpress (these ones have 2 leds indicator in the back). This light seems to be very popular and cloned in every possible way.

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    I'll have to say when I did a quick indoor test last night of my ali SSX2, I was much less than impressed. New Action LED-Magicshine battery though, with 20min use on first charge up. Hope to try it out on the road tonight with a fresh charge.

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    So who's selling the good version?

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    I believe fasttech are selling the good ones. I got 2 last week from them & both batteries are in the black shrinkwrap. used for approx 90 minutes & power indicator was still green. Only had 1 ride with them so far.

    very impressed with these lights when comparing to my single XML MS clone i have been happily using for the last 10 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    You have to be real careful when buying stuff from the Chinese web sites. On the link you provided the X2 being sold only has three modes, high-low-strobe. There is no mid-mode like with the other sellers. That would be the deal breaker for me.
    Thanks Cat. I'd missed that.

    I did see the rather odd line item in the description "is_customized: Yes" and wondered what it meant. Guess you discovered the customization.

    It just confirms my uneasy feeling about Ali Express. I knew I smelled a rat when each link to the X2 on Ali seemed to be from a different seller.

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    Took my Ali SSX2 out this morning at 230am, with a freshly charged 4400ah batt. I like it--its my first serious light compared to my first ed. Magicshine, and the Dinotte 600 which I returned, it not being a cost worthy improvement over the P7 MS.

    I don't plan to get a spare SSX2. I want more lumens, better construction, design and reliability. IIRC these X2 are estimated at 1000 lumens, correct? If that's the case perhaps the Gemini Olympia, although I'm really hoping Gloworm's X2 upgrade can hit 1500.

    Gloworm?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike95 View Post
    I believe fasttech are selling the good ones. I got 2 last week from them & both batteries are in the black shrinkwrap.
    Not really, I measured 3040mAh for fasttech SSX2. Basically black shrinkwrap means that you'll get battery with 3000-4000mAh capacity and even then its not guaranteed.
    Chinese batteries = lottery where you have a huge chance to lose and even if you win you'll get only average battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    Not really, I measured 3040mAh for fasttech SSX2. Basically black shrinkwrap means that you'll get battery with 3000-4000mAh capacity and even then its not guaranteed.
    Chinese batteries = lottery where you have a huge chance to lose and even if you win you'll get only average battery.
    Considering how cheap the entire package is and with shipping. It's a wash, there's no way I can make a light that good with that cost, not to mention sourcing the mounts as well.

    It's like frozen pizza versus homemade pizza, homemade pizza always came out more expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varider View Post
    So who's selling the good version?
    And links would be helpful. Dang, I wish I knew there were better and worse ones before I bought 2 from Ali Express.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopherhockey View Post
    And links would be helpful. Dang, I wish I knew there were better and worse ones before I bought 2 from Ali Express.
    me too and Ali are taking a very long time to get it to me.....

    The description for mine has 3 led's at the rear so i figure it's the 8.4V model and also lo-mid-hi-strobe so fingers crossed it's all good. I don't expect the battery to be much good so i'm not stressed about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopherhockey View Post
    And links would be helpful. Dang, I wish I knew there were better and worse ones before I bought 2 from Ali Express.
    Hey, don't feel bad, I was ready to pull the trigger on these as well.

    Fasttech is probably the best place to buy one but Manafont has a SS X2 clone that is a little cheaper. Looks like the same lamp only it doesn't have the Brand name on it. Even comes in the same box. It has 4-modes and battery power indicators, should be the same lamp.

    I've been wondering about these lamps for quite a while. Pretty much looks like a decent package. The lamp uses reflectors ( which I like more than optics ) It has three steady modes ( plus strobe ) which I like. It has battery voltage indicators and a base design that looks like it might dissipate heat well....all in a nice compact package. Also is using the XM-L U2 emitters. The only question is how bright are they. So far no one has been complaining. Yeah, I might buy one just to screw around with. I've ordered from Manafont before without too many problems.

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    Thought I'd add another supplier that has it a little cheaper and free shipping.

    Newegg retailer 37.99 shipped

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    Do these plugs on these lamps work with the Magic Shine batteries? Looks like it, but wanted to know before pulling the trigger on one.

    Edit found my answer by actually reading the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    1072mAh on discharge, how is that even possible? Thats a new record for low capacity batteries from everything that I've tested. Gotta open it up tomorrow and measure capacity of every cell
    Just opened the battery...here is what i found inside (bad battery on the left, good battery on the right for comparison):

    2 cells are just not connected to anything, guy who was spot-welding them probably wanted to finish his shift earlier.
    Quality control? Who needs quality control?

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    Do you think the X2 is better than the D-50 as a helmet light?

    I'm thinking the D-50 from fasttech might be better as its got the better battery case and I can upgrade it easily to some panasonics.

    $54.05 UltraFire D-50 2*Cree XM-L U2 4-Mode 1800-Lumen White LED Headlamp - black / 1*battery pack (4*18650 / 4400mAh / 2S2P) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

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    X2 is lighter than D-50 so I would say yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    X2 is lighter than D-50 so I would say yes.
    Ok, I was looking at the D-50 as the battery was easy to change to better batteries, is there a consensus on any of the X2's that have a decent battery or do I need to buy another battery or get the screw together holder and panasonic?

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    Well imo all chinese batteries are crap, even good ones will have 2000mAh cells inside.
    Its probably better to buy the light alone and the buy a holder + samsung 2600/panasonic 2900-3100-3400 cells for it.
    8 4V 6600mAh Aluminum Shell Rechargeable Battery FOR XM L T6 LED Bike Headlight | eBay btw there is a holder for $16 shipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    Well imo all chinese batteries are crap, even good ones will have 2000mAh cells inside.
    Its probably better to buy the light alone and the buy a holder + samsung 2600/panasonic 2900-3100-3400 cells for it.
    8 4V 6600mAh Aluminum Shell Rechargeable Battery FOR XM L T6 LED Bike Headlight | eBay btw there is a holder for $16 shipped.
    Do you know if this connector works with magic shine lights? Thanks.

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    It should work (same 5.5x2.1mm metal connector) but you may have to cut some of the rubber from the connector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    Well imo all chinese batteries are crap, even good ones will have 2000mAh cells inside.
    Its probably better to buy the light alone and the buy a holder + samsung 2600/panasonic 2900-3100-3400 cells for it.
    8 4V 6600mAh Aluminum Shell Rechargeable Battery FOR XM L T6 LED Bike Headlight | eBay btw there is a holder for $16 shipped.
    Maybe this has been done but can someone provide a link to the good cells. Thx

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    Thanks Kir. As long as I don't have to solder.

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    SolarStorm/FandyFire X2

    That's was the way I was leaning as well. Will look at just getting the lamp and then order the battery unit and some good cells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    It should work (same 5.5x2.1mm metal connector) but you may have to cut some of the rubber from the connector.
    Would I be able to charge the batteries in the holder or will I have to get a separate charger if I replace the cells?

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    Another Solarstorm X3. This one looks much better:
    SolarStorm X3 3 x Cree XM-L T6 2000lm 4-Mode White Bike Light - Deep Pink (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

    I have no idea if it's the real deal or a clone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mb323323 View Post
    Maybe this has been done but can someone provide a link to the good cells. Thx
    MB, a good "one stop" shopping link for 18650 cells is on the "Fasttech" web site. They also have some pretty good prices. Heck, for what I paid for one Panasonic ( somewhere else ) I could of had two from Fasttech. They have all the good brands ( Panasonic, Samsung, Sanyo ) as well as some off brands that sometimes get honorable mention.

    Word of warning; Just be sure to read all the product descriptions so you know what you are buying. If you want "protected cells" make sure you read that in the product description. Be careful if you are considering some of the Samsung "ICR" type 18650's. Those cells sometimes have a peak voltage of 4.35 volts. ( vs. normal 18650 Li-ion cells with have a peak voltage of 4.2 ) If you buy the higher voltage cells you will need a different ( special ) charger to get the battery to it's peak voltage. Yes, I do believe Fasttech sells both kinds of chargers.

    Fasttech has a bunch of interesting gadgets. After looking over what they have I see a bunch of stuff I'd like to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varider View Post
    Another Solarstorm X3. This one looks much better:
    SolarStorm X3 3 x Cree XM-L T6 2000lm 4-Mode White Bike Light - Deep Pink (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

    I have no idea if it's the real deal or a clone.
    VERY INTERESTING!...I've not seen these anywhere else. Look's like D/X is releasing some new lamps. I might have to give Mr. Joesph a shout to see if he wants one of these reviewed. No telling how this lamp operates it's mode changes. It might do the 1-2-3 led illumination thing to give you three modes. The center LED looks to have a bigger reflector. This might give the lamp more throw. The only down side as I see it is that it is only using standard XM-L T-6 emitters. I'd rather it have the U2 but still, I wouldn't mind taking a look at this baby.

    Looks like D/X is gearing up for the night season.

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    How long do you think a X2 would run off 2x 3100/3400 panasonics or the likes? Just wondering if I buy just the X2 and build a small battery pack from a 2 battery holder with PCM and cable that I can velco to my helmet. Could make a second and put in my pocket incase but most of my night riders would be under an hour so do you think I could get that long from 2 good cells?

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