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    Quote Originally Posted by dmckiwi View Post
    How long do you think a X2 would run off 2x 3100/3400 panasonics or the likes? Just wondering if I buy just the X2 and build a small battery pack from a 2 battery holder with PCM and cable that I can velco to my helmet. Could make a second and put in my pocket incase but most of my night riders would be under an hour so do you think I could get that long from 2 good cells?
    Good question. Without knowing more about how much power the SS X2 is using my guess is that if you are running the lamp on high you should get about 1.25 to 1.5 hrs. run time with a very good two cell set-up. The lamp will probably start to dim slightly at the 1hr mark and continue until the lamp cuts off the power.

    If you run the medium setting you should get over two hours without any problems. When using two cell set-ups it is always a good idea to only run the amount of light that is needed. Now if you are using a "cell holder" you can always carry a couple spare cells in your bag and have no need to worry about such things.

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    SolarStorm/FandyFire X2

    I might order a couple of cell holders and power cables and just make 2 units from some 3400 batteries, then I can just insulate the holders and carry a spare. It's unlikely that I will need much more than an hour so that will probably work well.
    I'll have a look on the weekend and work out what I need but worth a try with one of those X2 as should make a very light weight helmet setup.

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    just bought this :

    Solarstorm 5000LM 2 Cree XM L U2 LED Front Bicycle Bike Headlight Headlamp Light | eBay

    hopefully its got a half decent battery. Time will tell. should arrive in a couple of weeks (yay australia)

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    Quote Originally Posted by leighaus View Post
    just bought this :

    Solarstorm 5000LM 2 Cree XM L U2 LED Front Bicycle Bike Headlight Headlamp Light | eBay

    hopefully its got a half decent battery. Time will tell. should arrive in a couple of weeks (yay australia)
    Only 5000 lumen? LOL!

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    chinese lumens... im pretty sure it will be bright as hell... running time... gee, who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leighaus View Post
    just bought this :

    Solarstorm 5000LM 2 Cree XM L U2 LED Front Bicycle Bike Headlight Headlamp Light | eBay

    hopefully its got a half decent battery. Time will tell. should arrive in a couple of weeks (yay australia)
    We know it's Chinese lumens. Apparently it's also Chinese mAh. The advert says a 6600 battery -- Yea - Right -- At that price?

    Oh look - they're throwing in a $2.00 tail light. Are they adding the mAh from the 2 x AAA batteries to get the 6600? Are the AAA batteries even included?

    Sold in AU dollars - shipped from China. Overrated specs. Return policy is 30 days from date of order - 7 days from receipt. Looks like a typical Fleabay seller. Like Cat always says - read the fine print carefully.

    Bought at FastTech (known retailer with good track record & reasonably accurate specs) using the BLF discount code would be $40.59.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    Well imo all chinese batteries are crap, even good ones will have 2000mAh cells inside.
    Its probably better to buy the light alone and the buy a holder + samsung 2600/panasonic 2900-3100-3400 cells for it.
    8 4V 6600mAh Aluminum Shell Rechargeable Battery FOR XM L T6 LED Bike Headlight | eBay btw there is a holder for $16 shipped.

    How are thee battery holders working out for those who have tried them? Are people using an external charger or leaving the cells in the case and charging them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_C View Post
    We know it's Chinese lumens. Apparently it's also Chinese mAh. The advert says a 6600 battery -- Yea - Right -- At that price?

    Oh look - they're throwing in a $2.00 tail light. Are they adding the mAh from the 2 x AAA batteries to get the 6600? Are the AAA batteries even included?

    Sold in AU dollars - shipped from China. Overrated specs. Return policy is 30 days from date of order - 7 days from receipt. Looks like a typical Fleabay seller. Like Cat always says - read the fine print carefully.

    Bought at FastTech (known retailer with good track record & reasonably accurate specs) using the BLF discount code would be $40.59.
    I think most people know about the lumen and battery over rating issues. If the lamp is shipped from China you might get a decent battery. When I say decent I mean something around 3000 or > ( real )mah.
    I just ordered an X2 as well from another Chinese website and it too will likely have a crap battery. I'll have a better return guarantee but have to wait 16 days to get it. Personally I'm not worried about the battery as I have better compatible batteries standing by.

    @ leighaus ; Just make sure that when your lamp arrives that you do a run time test ( with fan ) to make sure all is good. ( If you get 2-2.5 hrs on high than you have an acceptable battery IMO ) No promises though on how long these batteries will hold up. Not unusual for a crap battery to last less than a year. If any immediate problems contact the seller ASAP and file a complaint with the e-smay people ASAP.

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    Will do cat, thanks. Happy to start modding if things go haywire

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    I received the SSX2 yesterday and it's the 8.4V 4 mode and black shrink wrapped batts. Haven't checked the duration of the battery as I just received two new batterys from Xeccon which were really quick in arrival and great service thanks to Leonard. Definitely a big difference in quality of the cells and workmanship between xeccon and the supplied batts with the ultrafire (clone) and X2. I noticed a difference between the two LED's in the SSX2 and i'm hoping its not a defect but that maybe the optics are different in each one to provide more spread or spot?? can anyone clarify that or should they be identical? Have i maybe got two different LED's?

    has anyone swapped the optics if that is my issue? this lamp get way hotter than the ultrafire quad I bought.

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    Upset

    So i had a better look and found that there is epoxy type stuff on the lense (is this heat sink goo?) and that is what reduced the light output. Some has discoloured as you can see, i'm assuming from heat....?

    Contacted seller but not holding much hope. You can see that from the pic the top screw just sheared off leaving the thread stuck in without much force at all. So I tried to clean the epoxy off but succeeded in chipping the clear lense material over the led and now the lamp doesn't work at all. dow!!!

    Could i buy a replacement LED and solder it in as a replacement and if i can what else could i improve while i'm in there?
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    Wow! I'm amazed you got everything apart! Was it easy to disassemble?

    Anyway, I was going to say that it you can careful remove the glue from the emitter dome ( without scratching or removing the dome ) you might get full output. Sadly, welcome to the world of Chinese quality control.

    Since you got it all apart looks like it might be easy to mod.

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    Eugh... What a mess. QC at it's finest.

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    Easy to get apart aside from the screw snapping just a phillips head screwdriver and small pliers - 5 min max
    I sent pic of beams but i don't want to send the internal pic to the supplier in case he just says i stuffed it by taking it apart when that isn't the case.

    What are your thoughts on the discolouration of the goo.?
    is it possible that the goo made its way onto the globe after i started using it or is it more likely to have been that way when produced by sloppy workmanship.
    I'd like to send him the pic of the lens with crap all over it to prove my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightfoot View Post
    Easy to get apart aside from the screw snapping just a phillips head screwdriver and small pliers - 5 min max
    I sent pic of beams but i don't want to send the internal pic to the supplier in case he just says i stuffed it by taking it apart when that isn't the case.

    What are your thoughts on the discolouration of the goo.?
    is it possible that the goo made its way onto the globe after i started using it or is it more likely to have been that way when produced by sloppy workmanship.

    I'd like to send him the pic of the lens with crap all over it to prove my point.
    The discoloration is probably from the heat. I figure the goo was there from the git-go. They might have used it to help keep the reflector from moving, hard to know for sure but very obviously they used too much. Since it is contacting the emitter dome that is not good for two reasons, one...it blocks light, two...it holds heat close to the dome. If not removed the emitter will eventually discolor or just burn out. The sooner the stuff is removed from the dome the better.

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    I'll agree with Cat that the goo was there from sloppy assembly. It is very likely that replacing the LED will get it going again. When the dome was damaged in attempting to remove the contamination it probably broke one of the bond wires to the die. That's not repairable. If the reflector is contaminated it may be hard to clean without damage. Often the reflective coating is soft and thin and easily damaged. Just rubbing with a q-tip soaked in alcohol will scratch the coating and sometimes even remove it. Finding a suitable (ie. exact) repacement may be difficult.

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    The regular X2 use xm-l? Is that right? Here's one (or clone) that uses xm-l2
    Aliexpress.com : Buy Free shipping SolarStorm 2x CREE XM L2 T6 3B LED Bicycle bike HeadLight Headlamp Light 8000mAh battery pack from Reliable bikelight suppliers on Shenzhen Great Wall Technology Co., Ltd.

    It's also more expensive at $57.49. Gotta love the dirty alley beamshot. Looks pretty good though.

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    The circuit boards are white, in that new version of the X2. That IS the signature of an XM-L2. Nice pix of the guts too. The retailer seems to know the things we want to see.

    Same seller as the "Fixed D-99" that Kir posted. Same brightness & color bins too.

    I wonder if that seller is specifying L2s to its suppliers, or if the L2 is just becoming much more widely used? Hope to see other sellers with them soon (FastTech are you listening?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_C View Post
    The circuit boards are white, in that new version of the X2. That IS the signature of an XM-L2. Nice pix of the guts too. The retailer seems to know the things we want to see.

    Same seller as the "Fixed D-99" that Kir posted. Same brightness & color bins too.

    I wonder if that seller is specifying L2s to its suppliers, or if the L2 is just becoming much more widely used? Hope to see other sellers with them soon (FastTech are you listening?)
    Yes, I noticed the same things. Also the emitters are mounted on copper cores...which is also a big plus. If you switch between the the two links ( "Convoli" D99 clone and X2 clone ) both show a photo beam shot done in the same alley. The X2 version looks brighter and has more spill.

    I have to wonder though if they are both using the same driver. On the D99 clone the mid-level output list 30%. That's not particularly good because I doubt any of these lamps are really driving the lamp as hard as they could.

    Anyway, a real shame because the Convoli D99's are really nice looking lamps. All things considered, the Convoli X2 clone looks like it has better output. If you are looking for a bar lamp with a warmer tint ( not super warm but medium warm ) then you should really like these. The ad's say these emitters are in the 5000K range, very much like the torch drop-in I have. Still, some people who like a brighter white would probably prefer the Xm-L U2's. There is a brighter bin Xm-L2 ( in the 6500K range ). I've not seen one of those yet but I bet they are awesome.

    Dang it, I really would like to see one of these Convoli X2's in person. Unfortunately I'm not Kir. I can only affford to buy so many throw away toys.

    P.S. I also expect to see more vendors selling these real soon. This is probably why the other lamps are dropping in price. Right now the market is over-saturated with X2 clones. Other than the cheap-o batteries they come with these lamps are super deals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    I have to wonder though if they are both using the same driver. On the D99 clone the mid-level output list 30%. That's not particularly good because I doubt any of these lamps are really driving the lamp as hard as they could.
    Definately not the same driver. Look at the boards in the two adverts. The X2 driver is way more complex.

    In Kir's original look at the X2 (approx calcs), Low=21% - Med=65%.

    If (and I know it's a big IF) they only swapped the LEDs & didn't change the driver, the X2 - XM-L2 T6 3B version, should have pretty good mode spacing.

    I've got the original version and found all the modes very useable. Even on Low people (like security guards) stop me and ask about it because it's so bright. I've even gotten envious looks from the cops on bikes.

    In June when the flood in Calgary took out power to a large chunk of downtown and other parts of the city, I was wandering through the blackout area. (Shed a tear for my car submerged to 4 inches up the back of the seats.) With 100,000 people evacuated (across all the various flooded & blacked out neighbourhoods), the area was crawling with endlessly circling bike cops. I thought how pittiful their lights looked in comparison to mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varider View Post
    The regular X2 use xm-l? Is that right? Here's one (or clone) that uses xm-l2
    Aliexpress.com : Buy Free shipping SolarStorm 2x CREE XM L2 T6 3B LED Bicycle bike HeadLight Headlamp Light 8000mAh battery pack from Reliable bikelight suppliers on Shenzhen Great Wall Technology Co., Ltd.

    It's also more expensive at $57.49. Gotta love the dirty alley beamshot. Looks pretty good though.
    I love that they say is a 8000 mAh battery pack. I'm guessing that it runs at 7.4 volts. What single 18650 is 4000 mAhs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_C View Post
    Definately not the same driver. Look at the boards in the two adverts. The X2 driver is way more complex.

    In Kir's original look at the X2 (approx calcs), Low=21% - Med=65%.

    If (and I know it's a big IF) they only swapped the LEDs & didn't change the driver, the X2 - XM-L2 T6 3B version, should have pretty good mode spacing.

    I've got the original version and found all the modes very useable. Even on Low people (like security guards) stop me and ask about it because it's so bright. I've even gotten envious looks from the cops on bikes....
    Very good. Since I have a U2 version of the X2 on order I'm really hoping that one; it is as usable as I think it is and two; that it is easy to mod.

    @ ironbrewer: Yeah, I know what you mean. BS lumen claims and BS battery claims...what are ya going do? For the folks that know the limitations of emitters and batteries it's not really a big issue but you have to feel sorry for others who don't know as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    @ ironbrewer: Yeah, I know what you mean. BS lumen claims and BS battery claims...what are ya going do? For the folks that know the limitations of emitters and batteries it's not really a big issue but you have to feel sorry for others who don't know as much.
    You forgot BS current, BS run times and .... it is the snake oil of the modern era

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    It is for quite a good price now the head only on lightsmall

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    It is for quite a good price now the head only on lightsmall
    Great price. It does have three modes (Low Mid High), unlike the Ali light head only.

    In reading the Light Malls add one thing jumped out at me. It says the flash mode is SOS. The one I have is a slow flash. That might imply a different driver or a clone.

    I did check with LightMalls online "live support." The support rep said it was a slow flash not SOS. He has corrected the specifications on their web page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jud6yolas View Post
    It comes with the typical 4x18650 battery pack of unknown quality.
    They couldn't say it clearer:
    4*18650 bttery pack(Not Included)
    SolarStorm X2 2U2 2000LM Led Bike Light head - Black(Head Lamp Only)

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    Yes I think so, the price is unbeatable If the specs are with slow flash perhaps i would go for 2 of the and mod it with wide angle lense, xm-l2 u2 bins and slightly change the current sense resistor to give it more juice

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_C View Post
    Great price. It does have three modes (Low Mid High), unlike the Ali light head only.

    In reading the Light Malls add one thing jumped out at me. It says the flash mode is SOS. The one I have is a slow flash. That might imply a different driver or a clone.

    I did check with LightMalls online "live support." The support rep said it was a slow flash not SOS. He has corrected the specifications on their web page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_C View Post
    Great price. It does have three modes (Low Mid High), unlike the Ali light head only.

    In reading the Light Malls add one thing jumped out at me. It says the flash mode is SOS. The one I have is a slow flash. That might imply a different driver or a clone.

    I did check with LightMalls online "live support." The support rep said it was a slow flash not SOS. He has corrected the specifications on their web page.
    They must have fixed the ad. Now says, "slow flash". The key here is that the lamp has the original Solorstorm markings. Always a good sign it is like the originals. If I had seen this ad I would have ordered from light malls and saved $10. If I get a decent battery than I made out. We'll see. Great link though for the "light head only". Hard to beat that price.

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    update: I would avoid any light from this manufacturer

    Shenzhen EF Lighting Sci&Tech Co., Ltd

    poor quality and service

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    $14.79 Panasonic NCR18650B Rechargeable 3400mAh 3.7V 18650 Lithium Batteries 2-pack - authentic cells / 2-pack at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
    You need these batteries to fit in that battery pack.
    Also these batteries have to be discharged to 2.7v to get full capacity out of them, not sure it that battery pack protection circuit will allow that...will test that a bit later.
    (beginner question alert)

    So I got the battery pack, the batteries, and have an iMAX B6 charger. The pack has no balancing cable, just a magicshine style cable.

    I assume the idea isn't to just throw the NCR18650Bs into the pack and just charge away, but some pre-work is needed to get the most out of the new pack.

    Do I need some other kind of case to put these batteries in to get them discharged to 2.7v and/or otherwise "balanced" properly before use? It doesn't appear the pack has the necessary connections/smarts:

    4 x 18650 Battery Set for Bicycle Light-in Charger from Consumer Electronics on Aliexpress.com

    Sorry this might have been better posted in the battery thread... but maybe helps others putting this same pack together for the Solarstorm-style lights.

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    gopherhocke, just fully charge all of your new cells one-by-one before putting them to the battery box. You don't need to discharge them first. But you may want to do that in order to measure their actual capacity.

    2.7V mentioned by Kir is just lower discharge voltage allowed for these cells, but many protection PCBs may disconnect the cell around 3.0V level, thus reducing available capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightfoot View Post
    update: I would avoid any light from this manufacturer

    Shenzhen EF Lighting Sci&Tech Co., Ltd

    poor quality and service
    And why is that, got bad batch with low capacity blue batteries?

    You, like most people here (and me actually before I started my project with bike lights reviews) don't understand how this system works.
    These sellers on aliexpress - they're NOT the manufacturers, they're just that - sellers. They (well, most of them - there are some expections) will buy batches of lights from different factories and will sell what they can find at cheapest price.
    What's even worse is that the factories are the same, they will make lights from the stuff that they have in hand and they usually don't care about quality.
    Basically buying all these cheap lights is always a lottery and you can't predict what you will get.

    I bought about 8 SSX2s from Shenzhen EF Lighting Sci&Tech Co., Ltd and already got _3_ different versions with different drivers, different batteries, even different cardboard boxes. Two batches were good, one batch had bad batteries. I don't know about the drivers and current draw/current on leds, haven't measured all this stuff yet - but they all work fine.
    I'll post SSX2 review soon after receiving a few more samples and I'll compare all the different versions there.

    And btw - this is also why its pointless to read any descriptions, talk about advertised "U2 leds", "sos or strobe", battery capacities and all that stuff. You will get what you will get and it may not be what you expected or what was written in store's page or aliexpress listing.
    This is how it works with cheap chinese lights, unfortunately

    EDIT: Read this thread on fasttech, especially replies by geek (one of owners of the site) about consistency and quality control:
    https://www.fasttech.com/forums/feed...not-being-addr
    Its not about bike lights, but its basically the same and can be applied to any cheap chinese mass produced stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    Imo you really need to make your own battery for SSX2 (or buy a good battery made from 2600mAh cells), chinese batteries don't offer enough capacity for it.
    Personally I use for about a year rc lipo with indicators, alarms and protection setup with my 3 XML and I ordered 2 SS X2 heads from lightmalls to power them also with rc lipo setup. Kir did you try higher voltage to power the SS X2? I mean try not the 2S but also 3S or 4S?

    Quote Originally Posted by varider View Post
    The regular X2 use xm-l? Is that right? Here's one (or clone) that uses xm-l2
    It's also more expensive at $57.49. Gotta love the dirty alley beamshot. Looks pretty good though.
    Now it is about 80$ min. order 3 pcs
    Quote Originally Posted by Lightfoot View Post
    update: I would avoid any light from this manufacturer
    Shenzhen EF Lighting Sci&Tech Co., Ltd
    poor quality and service
    Why? Do you mean the lightmalls seller or the vendor that produces them?


    OT: celebrating post no. 99

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightfoot View Post
    Easy to get apart aside from the screw snapping just a phillips head screwdriver and small pliers - 5 min max
    I sent pic of beams but i don't want to send the internal pic to the supplier in case he just says i stuffed it by taking it apart when that isn't the case.

    What are your thoughts on the discolouration of the goo.?
    is it possible that the goo made its way onto the globe after i started using it or is it more likely to have been that way when produced by sloppy workmanship.
    I'd like to send him the pic of the lens with crap all over it to prove my point.
    Just took a look on previous page.
    You're not supposed to be able to remove led's pill like this!
    http://fcdn.mtbr.com/attachments/lig...-50-04_921.jpg
    This pill should be press-fitted/glued to the case, it provides thermal path for heat from led to the case.
    Your "goo" is just a melted plastic spacer like this one:
    $1.37 Insulation Gaskets for Cree XM-L T6 LED Emitters (10-Pack) 10-pack - 7mm opening / 16mm diameter / 0.5mm thickness / insulation & location function at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    Led's pill probably got loose in your light (manufacturing defect), reflector alone couldn't push it to the case hard enough and the led overheated while melting this plastic spacer. You can replace the led but you should somehow glue/press pill into case.
    Also don't run this light on high without active air cooling (switch to low when not moving on bike) - it has a very, very lightweight case and overheats very easily. I don't like the look of the 2nd led in your light, looks like spacer is melted there too.


    And about this light from ali - its just a SSX2 with new leds, nothing special about it. If you have a soldering iron and a $10 to buy 2 of these:
    $4.05 Cree XM-L2 T6-3B 10W 1100LM 5000-5200K Neutral White LED Emitter on 16mm Base Plate at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
    you can make it yourself, and much cheaper than $82.
    Also its convoy, not convoli

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    Quote Originally Posted by varider View Post
    The regular X2 use xm-l? Is that right? Here's one (or clone) that uses xm-l2
    Aliexpress.com : Buy Free shipping SolarStorm 2x CREE XM L2 T6 3B LED Bicycle bike HeadLight Headlamp Light 8000mAh battery pack from Reliable bikelight suppliers on Shenzhen Great Wall Technology Co., Ltd.

    It's also more expensive at $57.49. Gotta love the dirty alley beamshot. Looks pretty good though.
    They now appear to be $82.13. Must have gotten popular enough to raise the price over the last few days…

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    Kir, thanks for all that feed back. Hard to believe that a thermal spacing gasket could melt like that but I suppose it shouldn't surprise me. Possibly they substituted a cheaper gasket that couldn't handle the heat. The D99 I had used hard plastic O-rings as spacers, nothing like the big ones you linked to I'm glad to say.

    I agree with your other comments as well. You never know when parts are going to substituted out. This doesn't mean you will get something that won't work but there might be unexpected changes that you might not like.

    A while back I ordered a lamp ( not a X2 ) that was supposed to be 3-modes and got one that only had two. Than again when a driver is switched out there is no way to know unless you know what was originally suppose to be in the lamp.

    All said, when this happens it usually happens to products that have suddenly gotten popular and the stock of the item quickly runs out. This probably brings about a rush to restore stock and when stock parts run out they look for quick sub-standard replacements ( rather than the OEM parts originally used ) At least this is my opinion on the subject.

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    ...Also its convoy, not convoli ...
    Oh bloody hell, you mean this isn't the Italian version? How could I have been so wrong?
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    I have exactly the same experience with buying supposedly-identical lights from East. You'll never know what you get until you'll disassemble & check it...

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    Quick update, 3rd version of SSX2 from Shenzhen EF Lighting.
    Differences: screws are now cross/philips type, previous versions had hex screws. Driver pcb is now green (it was black before) and soldering looks worse.
    Black shrinkwrapped batteries again, but this time with 2700mAh capacity (1st batch had 3000-3800mAh batteries, 2nd had blue batteries with ~1700mAh capacity).
    Waiting for more samples from another sellers...

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    Just ordered a SolarStorm X2 Cree XM-L U2 from FastTech. Looking forward to checking out the QC

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    I was probably both rash and ignorant of the process over there in my 'don't buy an light from these guys' so thanks for setting me straight. As you can imagine I'm just frustrated because of the workmanship and service. I know I know, get what you pay for etc and I did expect to buy a new battery for it but I hoped the lamp would at least arrive working correctly and maybe last a year.
    I'm realistic and on a very tight budget so I went out on a limb and got burned. Nothing more frustrating than trying to explain what went wrong to someone with very poor English and me with no chinese. or maybe they understand perfectly!

    I'll look into soldering in a new pill, in your opinion Kir would the LED you listed be the best option for replacement. Also what's the best thing for connecting the pill to the body? jb weld would conduct heat well as it is epoxy with metal filings in it and is heat resistant. Anything else I should do to improve it while I'm in there?

    On the heat issue, I didn't run the X2 stationary only the ultrafire x4 which hardly heats up at all in comparison. The X2 has heat protection (drops down when hot) as well.

    anyway lessons learned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightfoot View Post
    I'll look into soldering in a new pill, in your opinion Kir would the LED you listed be the best option for replacement. Also what's the best thing for connecting the pill to the body? jb weld would conduct heat well as it is epoxy with metal filings in it and is heat resistant. Anything else I should do to improve it while I'm in there?
    Kir listed an XM-L2 - so you'd probably change them both to be correct. The best is to apply some thermal grease e.g. arctic silver or something similiar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    Kir listed an XM-L2 - so you'd probably change them both to be correct. The best is to apply some thermal grease e.g. arctic silver or something similiar.
    Would I epoxy the pill to hold it in and thermal grease the edges? how would I hold it in firm to prevent the same issue reoccurring. and do I need the thermal gasket that melted on mine?
    Kirs' listing was 16mm, I just measured the pill and it's 20mm.

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    I would buy 20mm (if the 20mm is original, 16mm may be too small), if you want to change just one, buy some 20mm XM-L U2 (fasttech, lightmalls, dx, kd, ... whatever and where ever you find the right one). Since I do not have my lights yet, I cannot say how to fix them. Epoxy or solder at 2-3 points may be OK with some thermal grease. I am not sure but you can use instead of melting gasket high temperature (300 degree Celsius) silicone.

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    that is the one that melted probably, but as I said, you can go to high temp silicone. There are also some emitters at CNQG site .

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    Just got one of these. Black battery pack, cannnot say anything about capacity yet. The lamp quality seems good, here are my current draw measurements (external PSU, stabilized 8.4V):

    max mode: 2.13 A (2130 mA),
    mid mode: .85 A (850 mA), fluctuates from 0.8 to 0.9
    min mode: .03A (30 ma), fluctuates from 0.025 to 0.035

    So there is plenty of light in max mode, lamp is getting very hot quickly.

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    Nice one, and the draw at 7.4V - regular li-ion/-pol working voltage? Is the min mode like parking lights = .03A too low to see anything ?

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    Now is the famous battery pack for 13$ at lightmalls

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    WOO WHOO! Postman came knocking today. I now have my SS X2 clone in my hot little hands. A quick run-through with the light shining down my hallway looks VERY favorable. Output on all three steady levels MORE than meets my expectations. The driver must really be pumping the juice, this thing gets hot fast.

    Anyway, mine was purchased from Manafont. I think it took about 10-12 days to get to me. Not bad. Usually takes 16 days. No time for more details I have to get to work. Hopefully I'll get a chance tonight to shine it around outside if I can fine a nice dark spot. I have a feeling that it is really going to have a nice usable beam pattern.

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    I am still waiting for my 2 SS X2 heads from lightmalls I'll post some numbers here when they arrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    Nice one, and the draw at 7.4V - regular li-ion/-pol working voltage? Is the min mode like parking lights = .03A too low to see anything ?
    For 7.4V it draws 1.35A. Now this is highly subjective, but mid mode is like 50% and min mode something like 15-20% (there is some useful amount of light).

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    Interesting that it draws less at 7.4V than at 8.4V. Then it could work with 3S setup = 3 x 3.7V li-ion and would be much brighter than at 2S setup = 2 x 3.7V.

    Quote Originally Posted by calzone View Post
    For 7.4V it draws 1.35A. Now this is highly subjective, but mid mode is like 50% and min mode something like 15-20% (there is some useful amount of light).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Anyway, mine was purchased from Manafont. I think it took about 10-12 days to get to me. Not bad. Usually takes 16 days. No time for more details I have to get to work. Hopefully I'll get a chance tonight to shine it around outside if I can fine a nice dark spot. I have a feeling that it is really going to have a nice usable beam pattern.
    You should open up the backside and check led's pills - I just received manafront version too and pills are not fixed to the case unlike in other SSX2 versions that I have. If they're loose too - open it from the front and add some thermal paste between pills and the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    Now is the famous battery pack for 13$ at lightmalls
    $17.31 with shipping, not worth it.

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    Got my ss x2 today. So much smaller than I was expecting..the output is amazing...it does get hot quick stationary though. Black battery pack. Happy as. Can't wait to test it at night.

    It's brighter than the $200 job a bloke was trying to sell me at the lbs .

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    Quote Originally Posted by leighaus View Post
    Got my ss x2 today. So much smaller than I was expecting..the output is amazing...it does get hot quick stationary though. Black battery pack. Happy as. Can't wait to test it at night.

    It's brighter than the $200 job a bloke was trying to sell me at the lbs .
    Yep, I'm very pleased with mine. Last night I took it out and on a very dark section of road I stopped and was shining it around. Very, very impressive. It's so bright on high that it might actually be brighter than my Glowworm X2 but since this is my first initial impression of the lamp I'll reserve the final judgement till I can take both out at the same time and do some comparisons.

    I will say one thing, it has lots of throw for a small two emitter lamp. It's also very light-weight and might make an interesting helmet lamp. If I get a chance I need to take it out onto something like a football field so I can get a better idea of the distance throw.

    What I found most pleasing about the lamp was the variance in output for each of the modes. The low is very, very useable. Mid mode is about perfect and yes, there is significant difference between mid and high.

    Mine does/did have a minor problem though. When in the off mode a couple time mine did some random emitter flashing. Only did it a couple times and has been fine since. I'm not too worried about it. I have a Gloworm X2 that did the same thing when I first got it over a year ago and have not had a problem with it since.

    When I got home tonight I wanted to take a ride to see what it looked like on the bike but I was just too tired. Only got about 4hrs sleep the other night.

    I think someone else mentioned that the strobe mode on these were slower than most of the other cheap lamps. I can concur with that. I actually wish it was a little slower but it is usable as is. At least it's not one of those hyper-strobes that you see on most of the cheap Chinese made lamps. These you can actually use but since it's so bright I don't think I would use it except in the day time and then only for short duration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    You should open up the backside and check led's pills - I just received manafront version too and pills are not fixed to the case unlike in other SSX2 versions that I have. If they're loose too - open it from the front and add some thermal paste between pills and the case.
    Eventually I'll tinker with it but since the thermal transfer seems to be fairly quick I'll not mess with it right away. After some initial tests I'll likely take a look at the insides to see whats up.

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    My strobe is probably a bit too fast and honestly at that brightness it's just dazzling. I'll use my cheap single led light for any streets whilst commuting.

    I just took it out in the dark. It lit up most of the large gumtree like it was in direct sunlight. The spread is actually quite nice. I honestly can't see this light lasting an hour on high though and the heat generated will need constant airflow to prevent damage. Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    You should open up the backside and check led's pills - I just received manafront version too and pills are not fixed to the case unlike in other SSX2 versions that I have. If they're loose too - open it from the front and add some thermal paste between pills and the case.
    Eventually I'll tinker with it but since the thermal transfer seems to be fairly quick I'll not mess with it right away. After some initial tests I'll likely take a look at the insides to see whats up.
    I have a FastTech SSx2 arriving soon and I want to make sure everything is in good working order as far as pill seating, thermal transfer, etc. If someone can post the step by step process on how to do this and perhaps other things to "improve" the x2's I'd be very grateful!

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    Is there a place one can order lights from that won't take months to ship? I placed an Ali order a while back (a month as of tomorrow), they are still in China. I placed a Fasttech order that seems to be stuck in Hong Kong. Its night riding season and here I thought I was planning ahead….

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    Here in Europe, orders from Chinese web shops are typically delivered within 2 to 4 weeks, except for Christmas/New Year time, but some of them have overseas warehouses, too - then you can obtain goods significantly faster.

    For example, DeaExtreme had stores on USA, United Kingdom and Australia:
    US & UK Warehouse Built- 3 Day Shipping Now Possible ? DealExtreme Forum
    Overseas Warehouses in the UK and US Completed | DealExtreme Blog

    Currently I can't locate information about two of them anymore, either because of abandoned service or web site rearrangement (due to move to new DX name), while Australian store seems to be still functional:
    Why AU Direct?

    Check if you'll find similar service on other shops. Also, many of them offer faster delivery by courier company instead of plain post, but it adds some numbers to your invoice...

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    Road shootout: Solarstorm X2 vs. Gloworm X2

    Took my first ride with the SS X2 tonight. Since my road bike was already prepped I took it out for a quickie 8 miler. Not sure this is a fair comparison because my GW was set on the lowest output menu setting ( Adventure menu ) but should still be good enough to do some beam pattern comparisons.

    The first thing that was most notable is the difference in beam pattern. Switching back and forth between the lamps it was clear that the Solarstorm X2 had a more narrow/forward throwing beam pattern. This translated into a brighter center area which is really quite useful. This was most noticeable on the lowest setting. On the low setting the SS easily beat out the GW but like I mentioned before the GW has a brighter available low setting on the other menus ( which I didn't use ).

    When comparing the mid and high settings there was more parity. The Gloworm has more spread so the beam pattern is more dispersed ( even with the spot/spot optics I use ) Since the output is higher there is no problems seeing although the Solarstorm still has a slightly brighter center area which clearly looks brighter when viewing objects in the distance. The Gloworm on the other hand had better peripheral spill.

    Judging from this first ride I would think the Solarstorm X2 would provide the superior beam pattern for road use. This is not to say that I would prefer the SS over the Gloworm X2 for road use. The GW has too many nice features ( multi-menu, wired remote, off-set mounting ) for me to be willing to give up. Still, if I consider all the lamps I own the Solarstorm X2 and it's duel reflectors provide the best over-all beam pattern for road use. On the other hand for mountain biking I'd give the edge to the Gloworm X2.

    While using the Solarstorm tonight I did have some minor problems. My handlebars are tapered. This made aiming the lamp a bit of a problem. If I moved it closer to the center the fins would touch the stem bolts. Next time I might need to add some rubber shimming to make it sit more evenly. I also had to put some electrical tape over the voltage indicators because the dang things are bright. Nice to have voltage indicators but I wish they weren't so distracting. No problems changing modes with the SS even though you have to cycle through "off" when you start changing modes. Really, this was not a major issue. "Strobe" is a press and hold thing so you don't have to deal with that if you don't want to.

    Other than those minor issues I really liked how the Solarstorm X2 performed. I haven't tried the "included" battery yet. I'll try to get around to doing that by next week.

    Tomorrow night I'll likely take a MTB ride and try the Solarstorm out on the bars and helmet. Can't wait to see how it works on the helmet.

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    Do these plugs on these lamps work with the Magic Shine batteries? Looks like it, but wanted to know before pulling the trigger on one.Edit found my answer by actually reading the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decrea1 View Post
    Do these plugs on these lamps work with the Magic Shine batteries? Looks like it, but wanted to know before pulling the trigger on one.Edit found my answer by actually reading the thread.
    They do fit, but MagicShine doesn't use the screw lock design that SolarStorm is using so the connectors will not lock together in quite the same way. Depending on the particular MagicShine connector you may be able to push them together such that the o-ring holds them pretty tight.

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    Wow, with some of these light head only options to be in the mid $30 to low $40, anyone with a bit of DIY skills can mod them with better drivers, etc and have a very bright light for under $100.

    Hmmmmm....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwarwick View Post
    They do fit, but MagicShine doesn't use the screw lock design that SolarStorm is using so the connectors will not lock together in quite the same way. Depending on the particular MagicShine connector you may be able to push them together such that the o-ring holds them pretty tight.

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    Yes, the connectors do work with the MS type connectors. I tried pushing the screw sleeve over the MS female connector ( non-threaded ) and found that it actually holds the connection very well.

    @pucked up: Yeah the DIY'ers will love these lamps but don't assume they are not good enough to use right out of the box. If you want a better product you might consider buying a Gloworm X2....and speaking of Gloworm, rumor is Gloworm will be releasing their new stuff pretty soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kir View Post
    Well imo all chinese batteries are crap, even good ones will have 2000mAh cells inside.
    Its probably better to buy the light alone and the buy a holder + samsung 2600/panasonic 2900-3100-3400 cells for it.
    8 4V 6600mAh Aluminum Shell Rechargeable Battery FOR XM L T6 LED Bike Headlight | eBay btw there is a holder for $16 shipped.
    Do these shells use button top or flat top cells or does it matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks04 View Post
    Do these shells use button top or flat top cells or does it matter?
    I believe unprotected flat tops from earlier postings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Yeah the DIY'ers will love these lamps but don't assume they are not good enough to use right out of the box.
    Personally I would not use one of the cheapo lights without disassembling and reworking any deficiencies first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vancbiker View Post
    Personally I would not use one of the cheapo lights without disassembling and reworking any deficiencies first.

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    SolarStorm X3 3 x Cree XM-L T6 2000lm 4-Mode White Bike Light - Deep Pink (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

    I don't know how the third led in the middle will perform in comparison with the other two because the reflector seems to be a little wider. I'm thinking about buying the SSX2 but I need a light for trailriding and I'm reading all about throw that this light has, although I prefer more floody beam like the P7 I have right now...

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    Solarstorm X2 ; Helmet test

    Tonight I took a Trail ( mountain bike ) ride with the SS X2 on the helmet. As usually my Gloworm X2 was on the bars but this time running the brighter "Trail Programme".

    First thing I noticed was that my Gloworm ( on the bars ) had much better output than last night while the Solarstorm X2 was working real well on the helmet. Definitely the SS X2 has more throw vs. the GW X2. Not by much but still better. As such it makes a decent helmet lamp and better than the GW when used on the helmet.

    It's quite amazing how well the beam pattern spreads out with the SS. Regardless I got a chance to put it to the test and found that it could illuminate very well in the 200ft. range. *When comparing both the GW and the SS in the 200 ft. range both worked very well but the SS with it's more focused beam was noticeably brighter at distance.
    ( *note: I should mention that my GW X2 on my mountain bike is set-up with one spot/one standard/medium optic. As such the GW was not only bright but had a superior beam pattern when used on the bars. )

    With both lamps going at the same time I had an absolutely perfect amount of light. Even with both lamps on low I could see great. The Solarstorm continues to impress me with it's bright LOW MODE. Even in LOW it has considerable reach.

    Toward the end of my ride tonight I rode a short section of straight gravel road that I used to do beam shots on. I stopped at the usual spot and took my helmet off. There I did some quick comparisons by holding the helmet at bar level. Very impressive how well the Solarstorm X2 lights things up at that 200 ft range. This surprises me because the light at that range is quite dispersed. Even so I could still see very well. The only other lamp I own that can beat it for intensity is the Xeccon X-12 but the X-12 has a much more confined and narrow beam pattern. As such it is not as useful when dealing with trails that are twisty, have shorter lines of sight and offer more dangerous trail features . On trails like those a helmet lamp with wider beam pattern is preferable. ( IMO )

    Quote Originally Posted by xaxadj View Post
    Has anyone seen this?
    SolarStorm X3 3 x Cree XM-L T6 2000lm 4-Mode White Bike Light - Deep Pink (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

    I don't know how the third led in the middle will perform in comparison with the other two because the reflector seems to be a little wider. I'm thinking about buying the SSX2 but I need a light for trailriding and I'm reading all about throw that this light has, although I prefer more floody beam like the P7 I have right now...
    yes, those triples have been talked about. I hope to be able to get one to review. The original link that I used listed the lamp as using a 6A driver. The one on the link that you provided is only listing 3A.

    I think the SS X2 would make a good bar lamp. If you think you want more side spill you might consider one of the D99 clones that use optics. Optics generally supply a wider more dispersed beam pattern. They are also available in XM-L U2 and XM-L2 so they should be almost as good as the Solarstorm's ( as long as they are not under-driven ). Either way, these duel XM-L lamps will beat the pants off a single P-7 lamp with flood lens.

    The Solarstorm triple listing a 6A driver should have a fantastic output. As far as I know no one has one yet but if I get one I want the 6A version. Be careful ordering from D/X as they offer different versions of the same lamp. Read the product descriptions carefully.

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    I bought the SSX2 from Manafont and the output is seemingly impressive, only tried it quickly last week & haven't compared it to my other lights, but the battery as per Kir earlier posts is only good for around 40mins on high. Little lost as to whether I can complain to Manafont, as the advert doesn't include any spec on the battery or runtimes (yes I knew it would probably be poor quality) or if it's even worth returning. I'm tempted to take the plastic cover off to see if it was assembled correctly, as it's charge time is only around 2-3hrs (I've tested it 3 times to confirm), but obviously I can't return it, if I do that. Any thoughts?

    I am tempted to try the Ali case and swap the battery connector, as I like the screw up connector. Saying that I have an old MS plastic battery case I may take to pieces first and see how difficult it would be to replace the batteries with better ones.

    Anyone got any runtimes for a 4400 battery pack? As I am considering buying a high capacity battery pack, if you can't get 2 hrs on full from the 'std' one
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    Nice review. It's always good to have another light to compare/contrast with. Let us know when you do a runtime test. Refresh my memory as to where you ordered from again?

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    I've Just ordered one of these Solarstorm X3 with XM-L U2 LEDs yesterday.
    It comes with a 8,4V 6400mAh battery pack.

    It will probably arrive in about 2-4 weeks i guess.
    If everything is in order, i will be glad to post some photos of the beam, finish, output, etc..
    Unfortunately i don't have the right equipment to measure voltage, lumen output, amps and so on, to make a serious test of the bike light.

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    The DX pack is reviewed here - not a smart choice if you don't like DIY

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    I am tempted to try the Ali case and swap the battery connector, as I like the screw up connector. Saying that I have an old MS plastic battery case I may take to pieces first and see how difficult it would be to replace the batteries with better ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z1ppy View Post
    ...Anyone got any runtimes for a 4400 battery pack? As I am considering buying a high capacity battery pack, if you can't get 2 hrs on full from the 'std' one
    I was using my Xeccon 4400 pack last night while using the SS X2. I basically did a two hour ride but wasn't using the high mode too much because I wasn't sure if the battery was fully charged. Anyway when I got back to the car only one of the battery indicators had gone out ( out of three )

    I'm preparing a test for the supplied Manafont battery as I write. If you only got 40 minutes that is not promising. It should of at least gotten somewhere around 1.25 hr on high, even with a crap battery. I'm a little worried because yesterday I charged the battery and just now I plugged it back in and the indicator shows that it's charging again. Not a good sign. ...okay...it stopped charging ( just a couple minutes ). I suppose it must of self-balanced last night and needed a small top off charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    The DX pack is reviewed here - not a smart choice if you don't like DIY
    What's wrong with that pack? And BTW, it's not "DX", but real MJ-828 battery of good quality...

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    Update from my last post: @ z1ppy, mine ran 57 minutes before the first indicator went out. That's a good sign. Judging from that I should get close to 2hrs but we'll see. Time to get ready for work.

    *edit...Shut off at 1hr and 35 minutes. After that first light went out it dropped out real quick. Not much spacing with the indicators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    Now is the famous battery pack for 13$ at lightmalls
    I just put 4 brand new balanced batteries in the "famous" battery pack.. (got mine from Ali, maybe that is the issue) and nothing… doesn't power any of my lights. What a waste.

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    Knowing the quality we've come to expect from these lights, its likely you've got a bad connection or maybe a broken wire after taking it apart. I would start by putting the original batteries back in and see if it works. A multi-meter is going to be your friend in tracking down the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Update from my last post: @ z1ppy, mine ran 57 minutes before the first indicator went out. That's a good sign. Judging from that I should get close to 2hrs but we'll see. Time to get ready for work.

    *edit...Shut off at 1hr and 35 minutes. After that first light went out it dropped out real quick. Not much spacing with the indicators.
    That's not a bad time at all considering many of these batteries are putting out less than an hour on High. Should be good enough for a 2 hr ride assuming you use the Low setting appropriately on climbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gopherhockey View Post
    I just put 4 brand new balanced batteries in the "famous" battery pack.. (got mine from Ali, maybe that is the issue) and nothing… doesn't power any of my lights. What a waste.
    Was it working before? Have you connected it to the charger briefly, after cells replacement?

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    Cat-man-do, cheers for the comparison, looks like I got a dud one, I used my old MS battery and got about 1.5hr and I know this battery is tired. Gunna fire an email off to Manafont and see what they say.

    -Archie-
    What's wrong with that pack? And BTW, it's not "DX", but real MJ-828 battery of good quality...
    MK96 wasn't slagging off the battery pack, just linking a "disassembly thread" & the fact that it was more complicated internally than it first looks, after I had said I might try taking mine to pieces. BTW Cheers for the link MK96.

    Anyone got a similar link (pictures of it taken apart) to the "famous" battery pack? How difficult is it? Gopherhockey's obviously had issues...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xaxadj View Post
    Has anyone seen this?
    SolarStorm X3 3 x Cree XM-L T6 2000lm 4-Mode White Bike Light - Deep Pink (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

    I don't know how the third led in the middle will perform in comparison with the other two because the reflector seems to be a little wider. I'm thinking about buying the SSX2 but I need a light for trailriding and I'm reading all about throw that this light has, although I prefer more floody beam like the P7 I have right now...
    I've Just ordered one of these Solarstorm X3 with XM-L U2 LEDs yesterday.
    It comes with a 8,4V 6400mAh battery pack.

    It will probably arrive in about 2-4 weeks i guess.
    If everything is in order, i will be glad to post some photos of the beam, finish, output, etc..
    Unfortunately i don't have the right equipment to measure voltage, lumen output, amps and so on, to make a serious test of the bike light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z1ppy View Post
    MK96 wasn't slagging off the battery pack, just linking a "disassembly thread" & the fact that it was more complicated internally than it first looks,
    Maybe I've misunderstood him, but for me "not a smart choice if you don't like DIY" sounds like a claim that mentioned battery require a lot of DIYing, while in fact it's well made & ready to use device, without any need to be modified or improved prior to the riding - hence my comment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhmr View Post
    That's not a bad time at all considering many of these batteries are putting out less than an hour on High. Should be good enough for a 2 hr ride assuming you use the Low setting appropriately on climbs.
    Oh I have no doubt I could get a 2.5 hour ride in using this battery but that's only because I would be using the lower modes 90% of the time. Nevertheless I still consider this to be a crap battery.

    One of the things I noticed while using the Manafont battery is that the output dropped immediately after changing from the Xeccon battery to the Manafont battery.
    Just before the Manafont battery pooped I also noticed that the light output had dropped about 100 lux from what it was at the start. Most of that was likely from the emitters over-heating but I suspect that some of that was because the battery couldn't supply enough amps to power the lamp fully on high.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lindgren View Post
    I've Just ordered one of these Solarstorm X3 with XM-L U2 LEDs yesterday.
    It comes with a 8,4V 6400mAh battery pack.

    It will probably arrive in about 2-4 weeks i guess.
    If everything is in order, i will be glad to post some photos of the beam, finish, output, etc..
    Unfortunately i don't have the right equipment to measure voltage, lumen output, amps and so on, to make a serious test of the bike light.
    Lindgren, where did you order your triple ( SS ) lamp from? I don't see the U2 model offered with a 6400mAh battery. No Chinese made lamp is going to come with a 6400mAh 4-cell battery, 6-cell maybe but I don't see one offered with a 6-cell either. I only ask because I'm hoping you didn't misread/misinterpret the D/X link that Xaxadj posted.

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    Hi guys. Just thought I'd add my experiences of this light.

    I bought one of these lights from Ebay UK seller laptopartsupplier for £25.99.

    My battery lasts 1hr 15mins on full, and the first indicator goes out at around the hour mark.

    I've had no issues with the light so far, I'm happy with it, just would like a better battery in time.

    Rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Lindgren, where did you order your triple ( SS ) lamp from? I don't see the U2 model offered with a 6400mAh battery. No Chinese made lamp is going to come with a 6400mAh 4-cell battery, 6-cell maybe but I don't see one offered with a 6-cell either. I only ask because I'm hoping you didn't misread/misinterpret the D/X link that Xaxadj posted.
    I've "won" an auction on ebay. US $40,- incl. shipment.
    I don't mind about the battery, if theres a problem with it.
    If i don't receive the right stuff or even the whole package, then i'm covered by ebay buyer protection, because i used paypal - so i'm save.

    It was the exact same pictures and description as this one, but as an auction instead of "buy now":
    3X CREE XM L U2 LED 6000LM Head Front Bicycle Lamp Bike Light Headlight Headlamp | eBay

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    Ok, let's be correct - it is a MS pack from DX. If you want to use the pack alone after some time when the cells would be weak, it is difficult to replace them. That was my original idea

    Quote Originally Posted by -Archie- View Post
    What's wrong with that pack? And BTW, it's not "DX", but real MJ-828 battery of good quality...

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    Ok, now it's clear. But it's worth to mention, that this battery was never designed to be a container for user-replaceable cells, just like almost any other bike light battery of similar flavour....

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    Yes, but the MJ880 clone's aluminium cell case is easier way to go, no welding, just put and go But the MS case has nice indicator

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    Voltmeter is funny thing indeed, but I personally think it would be better to implement charge-balansing circuit instead...

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    Yes you are right But this SS X2 has pretty good indication you can clearly see.

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    You mean indication on light head itself? I dislike it. Way too bright, and IMHO traditional multicolor method is more convenient than counting of currently-illuminated LEDs that are all green...

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    Yes way too bright, but some dark transparent plastic shall do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Archie- View Post
    You mean indication on light head itself? I dislike it. Way too bright, and IMHO traditional multicolor method is more convenient than counting of currently-illuminated LEDs that are all green...
    Yes, this is true. Still I'd rather have the indicators than not have them, even if they are too bright. I simply cover mine with bit of electrical tape. I line the tape up so only a little light peeks out. If I have any questions I can always stop and remove the tape.

    Considering the cheap battery that comes with the lamp, when you see the first LED indicator go out you should immediately power down to a lower mode. The lower the better. If you do this you should be able to milk another 10-20 minutes of run time. If you wait till the final "blinking" led warning you only have a minute before the light goes out.

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    Guys, I bought the replacement battery from Fasttech, SKU: 1347107, but it came with 5.5/2.5 mm connector. It does not fit my lamp, charger, anything, cause the inside pin is to thick. Could you confirm that the standard for all your gear (lamps, chargers, batteries) is 5.5/2.1 mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by calzone View Post
    Could you confirm that the standard for all your gear (lamps, chargers, batteries) is 5.5/2.1 mm?
    Your question is addressed to the SS-X2 / FF-X2 owners only, or to all the people here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwarwick View Post
    They do fit, but MagicShine doesn't use the screw lock design that SolarStorm is using so the connectors will not lock together in quite the same way. Depending on the particular MagicShine connector you may be able to push them together such that the o-ring holds them pretty tight.
    Thanks for posting the pictures of the connectors! I wish these guys would all use the exact same connector, but at least they are compatible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calzone View Post
    Guys, I bought the replacement battery from Fasttech, SKU: 1347107, but it came with 5.5/2.5 mm connector. It does not fit my lamp, charger, anything, cause the inside pin is to thick. Could you confirm that the standard for all your gear (lamps, chargers, batteries) is 5.5/2.1 mm?
    Most of the chinese bike lights (about 90% of them) use 5.5x2.1mm connector, including all versions of SSX2.
    $0.89 5.5*2.5mm DC Male to 5.5*2.1mm DC Female Power Adapter Cable (10.5cm) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping you can buy this adapter to connect your battery
    $1.16 Power Cable for CCTV Security System Camera (Pair) 2-pack - 5.5*2.1mm / female at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping or this cable to replace the connector

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