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    Duo vs. Gloworm

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    Man-- im stuck between the duo and the gloworm...
    Same here. If anyone ends up with both the Duo and the Gloworm I'd love to know how they compare. I'm looking for something for the bars as I already have a Jetlite on my helmet...

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    So I dank the Gemi koolaid and bought a Duo. By the way, props to Action-Led. Shipping was lightning fast. Anyway, I now have all three lights..xera, olympia and duo. Went for a two hour ride last night with this as a helmet light the Olympia on the bar. In general I like the light though, I wish it was more of a spot. Though much brighter than my xera, I didn't feel as it threw quite as far and that's with the spot lens in my xera. The difference, if any was't huge and in reality, for the trails here in N. TX, I'm probably better off with a wider beam. Not many long downhills where I'd need a lot of throw. Rode for two hours on hi and the battery level was still on green with the hard case battery.

    Seems very well built as are the other Gemini's I've purchased. Will have to wait till next summer to see how it handles our hot nights. In all, a nice light though I'm still left wanting a tad more. I wish Gemini would make a slightly larger version of the Olympia with 4 leds running around 2400 lumens for my bar and produce a spot lens for the current olympia so I could run it on my helmet. The olympia is just barely heavier than the duo and I didn't even know the duo was there. That would make for a lot of light ....Gemini...are you listening?
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    Just ran a first 2 cell run down test on the Duo.

    Fully charged battery the light went out at 1:16.

    Action LED has it listed to run for 1:30 on high. I never noticed it change to Amber color and at approx 1:15 I noticed the button was red and then it went out out 1:16

    I have a second 2 cell battery I will try tomorrow to compare results.
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    Man, great price for the Duo!

    How long is the sale on for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pucked up View Post
    How long is the sale on for?
    I asked Jim @ Action the same question....he told me he was planning to leave it there for a while.
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    Got to give it a good test to tonight. Fire roads & socal chaparral singletrack
    Well I know the thermal protection works had dim me down once on a climb that 808E wouldn't. but that's to be expected twice the lumen s twice the heat, I'm just gong to have to learn this lights limits. all in all its a really bright light pushes past the Olympias throw limits well and gives you a lot of useable distance.
    This is not a super thrower it seems to get about the same distance as a 808e but in a more smoothed spread out pattern. I think with spot lenses and a hotspot this thing would be insane
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    [QUOTE=skidad;9786994]Just ran a first 2 cell run down test on the Duo.

    Fully charged battery the light went out at 1:16.

    Action LED has it listed to run for 1:30 on high. I never noticed it change to Amber color and at approx 1:15 I noticed the button was red and then it went out out 1:16QUOTE]

    I was going to do a rundown on the geoman battery but since Rakuman did that for us I did one with the 4 cell 5.2ah Gemini battery instead - 2:59 (close enough). I was watching as it aproached 3 hrs. and my lighthead did the same thing as yours, yellow to red and then totally off within 2 minutes. This is not the way any of my other Gemini lights behave on a low battery and not how the manuel describes the way the light should function. I'm going to ride tomorrow night but I think Thursday I'll try another battery. If you try your other 2 cell let me know how it works.
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    I got a PM from Chris @ Gemini saying my run times should be better on the 2 cell and my battery was possibly not fully charged. He said leave it on the charger for at least an hour after the light goes to green as it will trickle charge to 100% capacity that way. Didn't know that but will give it a try.

    That being said I tested my second (and primarily used) battery and got allot closer to the 1:30 high run time on the Action LED site for the 2 cell. This was before I got the PM from Chris so I will try a 3rd time to see if that improves it even more.

    2nd test on high with 2 cell and my primary battery

    1:06 to amber
    1:19 to red
    1:24:45 to power down

    With all the programming options available with this light I'm sure I can milk out 2 hours on or near high with the 2 cell. Just cycling it to the low 280 lumen setting at stops during the ride might do it...and I always have my spare. Nice not being attached to an extension cord IMO but a 4 cell in the back pack and just blast away on high and no worries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    I got a PM from Chris @ Gemini saying my run times should be better on the 2 cell and my battery was possibly not fully charged. He said leave it on the charger for at least an hour after the light goes to green as it will trickle charge to 100% capacity that way. Didn't know that but will give it a try.

    That being said I tested my second (and primarily used) battery and got allot closer to the 1:30 high run time on the Action LED site for the 2 cell. This was before I got the PM from Chris so I will try a 3rd time to see if that improves it even more.

    2nd test on high with 2 cell and my primary battery

    1:06 to amber
    1:19 to red
    1:24:45 to power down

    With all the programming options available with this light I'm sure I can milk out 2 hours on or near high with the 2 cell. Just cycling it to the low 280 lumen setting at stops during the ride might do it...and I always have my spare. Nice not being attached to an extension cord IMO but a 4 cell in the back pack and just blast away on high and no worries.
    Keep in mind that cool weather effects batteries and this effects how the circuitry in the lamp reads the voltage on the battery. Voltage sag in cold weather is always a problem with batteries. The smaller the battery, the larger the issue.

    Not sure how cold it is where you live but if you did the test inside the house the above paragraph is moot. Likely the battery just needs to recharge again. Trickle charging should not be an issue once the indicator on the charger indicates a full charge. If you doubt the battery is fully charged you can always check it with a meter. Full charge should read 8.4 volts. (DC)

    Anyway, since you're powering two XM-L emitters, if you get 1.5hr on high with a two cell battery you should be thrilled. In cold weather expect maybe 1hr 10min to 1hr 20min. In cold weather best to use the bigger batteries.

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    Hey Skidad,
    My second battery test went better too. I was happy with my time on the first test but I wanted to see if the charge indicator/low battery function would work correctly so I hooked up a partially charged 4 cell to save time. Bingo, approx 15 min. of yellow, followed by 15 min. of red and then flashing red and a power step down insteat of just turning off. I think I'm done testing the light in front of a fan for awhile, time for some single track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRMOLE View Post
    Hey Skidad,
    My second battery test went better too. I was happy with my time on the first test but I wanted to see if the charge indicator/low battery function would work correctly so I hooked up a partially charged 4 cell to save time. Bingo, approx 15 min. of yellow, followed by 15 min. of red and then flashing red and a power step down insteat of just turning off. I think I'm done testing the light in front of a fan for awhile, time for some single track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    Please test it with the 2-cell in 40-60* weather
    Sorry, I doin't own a 2 cell battery. Even if I did, looking at the current temp outside, it's 2 am and still 70. I don't think I'll see those temps till December.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRMOLE View Post
    Hey Skidad,
    My second battery test went better too. I was happy with my time on the first test but I wanted to see if the charge indicator/low battery function would work correctly so I hooked up a partially charged 4 cell to save time. Bingo, approx 15 min. of yellow, followed by 15 min. of red and then flashing red and a power step down insteat of just turning off. I think I'm done testing the light in front of a fan for awhile, time for some single track.
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    Retested the first battery per Chris from Gemini's instrutions

    Exact same results almost to the second except I caught the change to amber this time.

    1:13 to amber
    1:15 to red
    1:16 to power down

    Only 1 minute from the change from red to power off and almost 9 minutes shorter run time than my other 2 cell. Not complaining here but a bit curious and I sent a PM to Chris. And yes I'm testing the better battery yet again per Chris's instructions.

    EDIT: Better battery also tested exactly the same as the first time...almost to the second.

    I can check the 2 cell in 40-60 degrees as it's getting below 40 degrees here at night now.
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    I took the Duo out tonight and it's a great light. I wish I had other newer lights to compare it to. My history is with DiNotte 400L lights. I will say that this light is almost too bright. I found myself on tight single track using it at 50% power and I was very happy. It was only on the fastest sections did I use it on full power. I found that the reflections from trees, leaves/branches to be very bright if I had it on 100% Depending on your local trails I could see how you would really want to pick something other than Low, Med or High. I found myself liking 60% and it was pretty cool that I could dial it up and down. I can't comment on runtime but the mount was quick to attach and remove (helmet mount).

    I could see how SPOT LENSES would be really great for this light. It has more of a flood pattern and on this cool moist night (55 degrees F) I found that wearing it on the helmet reflected some moisture in my eyes/line of sight. I can see how lowering it to the bars would be nice. I will run this light on the helmet for the time being and wait for a review of the Glowworm X1 and them possibly move it to the bars. Fit and finish seems great, lets see how it holds up. I can say that 4 bikers saw me pulled over on a trail wiring it up as it was dark. They were amazed by the size of the lamp head and waited for me to turn it on. They all gasped when I did

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    Are spot lenses available for the Duo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KonaKen View Post
    ***Snipped version*** I took the Duo out tonight and it's a great light. I will say that this light is almost too bright. I could see how SPOT LENSES would be really great for this light. It has more of a flood pattern and on this cool moist night (55 degrees F) I found that wearing it on the helmet reflected some moisture in my eyes/line of sight. I can see how lowering it to the bars would be nice. Fit and finish seems great, lets see how it holds up.
    Used it last night and I agree with KonaKen.

    It is really nice to have that much punch on my helmet with a really low weight (had the 4-cell in my pack).
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    I've been on the fence about this one as my current xm-l titan seems to be bright enough but is just too heavy on the helmet. I was going to get a xera but now that this is out I don't know if I can resist. I'm starting to end up with way too many lights to put to use

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    Quote Originally Posted by manbeer View Post
    I've been on the fence about this one as my current xm-l titan seems to be bright enough but is just too heavy on the helmet. I was going to get a xera but now that this is out I don't know if I can resist. I'm starting to end up with way too many lights to put to use
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    Oh wow, thats brilliant! taking the plunge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by manbeer View Post
    I've been on the fence about this one as my current xm-l titan seems to be bright enough but is just too heavy on the helmet. I was going to get a xera but now that this is out I don't know if I can resist. I'm starting to end up with way too many lights to put to use
    For a helmet light I mainly use a Olympia or a Xera and accasionally a P-7 Titan or MS 808e, last night I tried my Due on the trails for the first time. On the weight issue the Titan/808e tend to make my helmet move around a little more and fatigue my old neck muscles on longer rides even though it's only 40-60 grams of extra weight. Withg the Xera/Duo/Olympia, other than the battery cord I don't even notice them at all. Since your considering either a Xera or a Duo I'd go with the Duo. Your going to get lighter weight with either and a nicer beam pattern (wider and more throw) but only slightly more power(compared to your current Titan) with the Xera, with the Duo you get the additional throw of the Xera with a much wider/more powerful beam. I even like the Duo over the Olympia for helmet use, almost as floody with better throw.

    Too many lights? I find switching my combinations of lights is fun and educational. If I never swithced light combos I never would have tried my Olympia as a helmet light. I learned that as long as it has enough throw, a nice wide beam is good on the helmet too. Some times when I ride my rigid single speed I run a Titan w/wide angle lens on the bars and a Titan on my helmet. That light combo provides pleaty of light for the speeds I go on that bike and it makes me appreciate my more powerful light when I use them. When I ordered by Duo, Jim at Action-LED-Lights sent me a red wide angle lens (for tail light use) to try. Using a headlight as a taillight is interesting. It's hard to evaluate a tail light while riding but my friends that I ride with seem to like it. A good imagination helps justify having many different lights. More lights = more fun!
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    [QUOTE=Rakuman;9783494]
    I have noticed with Geomans batteries no power meter on any of my lights were accurate so I'm sure you could easily get another half hour out of it...
    so if you want to use Geoman batteries with an Olympia when it dims down just unplug to reset and run it at no more than half power to get the most out of these batteries...,
    and I see zero issues using them with the DUO



    Well I did my own rundown with the Duo/Geoman 6.0 with good results. 3:05 to flashing red/power down. I plugged in an 808e lighthead to that battery and it was flashing red and shut off almost immediately so I think it did a good job of useing up all the batteries charge. I'm thinking that Gemini has tweaked the low battery (voltage) threshold on this light compared to the Xera/Olympia. With the Xera/Olympia the Geoman battery worked OK but would only allow access to a partial portion of the battery capacity. The Duo works better with the Goeman battery than any other lighthead I've tried (808/808e,Titan P-7, BikeRay IV, Xera, Olympia). Runtimes aren't quite as good as the lower powered units but the battery power level light actually works. Blue to yellow (approx. 1.5 hrs.), yellow to red (approx. 2.5 hrs), red to flashing red @ 3:05. Zero issues with this battery/lighthead combo, I totally agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manbeer View Post
    I've been on the fence about this one as my current xm-l titan seems to be bright enough but is just too heavy on the helmet. I was going to get a xera but now that this is out I don't know if I can resist. I'm starting to end up with way too many lights to put to use
    Fighting the urge to upgrade is a tough nut, especially at this time of year when all the new stuff is coming out. Just tell yourself that there are other people with the same problem who are worse off than yourself, then buy what you want. That works for me.

    Sooner or later I will see that the extra stuff gets passed on. I'd like to think that at some point some poor Mexican guy working at the local Wendy's is going to get off work at 1:30AM, go out to his 5yr/old Walmart MTB bike he has chained to a light pole and find a sweet DiNotte 600L sitting on his handlebars ( and PBSF on the seatpost flashing away ).

    Now I probably won't hang around to see his reaction but I bet he utters something like, "°caramba"!

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    I picked up an Olympia/Xera a few days ago and was super impressed. The Olympia beam looks similar to my friends' Seca 1700s, but at only $220 (lighthead, battery and charger), I couldn't be happier. The size and weight is ideal. The Xera on the helmet with the Olympia is simply excellent; so, this Duo on the helmet with the Olympia on the bars will be even better. Good job Gemini (and Action-Led).

    A riding buddy was so impressed with the Gemini lights he promptly ordered a Duo. Interested to see what he thinks.

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    [QUOTE=skidad;9792709]Retested the first battery per Chris from Gemini's instrutions

    Exact same results almost to the second except I caught the change to amber this time.

    1:13 to amber
    1:15 to red
    1:16 to power down

    Only 1 minute from the change from red to power off and almost 9 minutes shorter run time than my other 2 cell. Not complaining here but a bit curious and I sent a PM to Chris. And yes I'm testing the better battery yet again per Chris's instructions.

    Did you ever get an answer from Chris about this? I was wondering since I've experenced the same thing with one of my Gemini batteries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Retested the first battery per Chris from Gemini's instrutions

    Exact same results almost to the second except I caught the change to amber this time.

    1:13 to amber
    1:15 to red
    1:16 to power down

    Only 1 minute from the change from red to power off and almost 9 minutes shorter run time than my other 2 cell. Not complaining here but a bit curious and I sent a PM to Chris. And yes I'm testing the better battery yet again per Chris's instructions.

    Did you ever get an answer from Chris about this? I was wondering since I've experenced the same thing with one of my Gemini batteries.
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    Nope, not a peep back from either of my PM's. Perhaps I should just email him @ Gemini as I have no idea how often he checks here?

    What makes the battery exhibit that behavior? Some internal circuitry malfunction?
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    I have a question on both the olympia and the duo. Can you build a battery pack to fit both? I have the olympia but would love to get the duo on the other side of my bar, but to only use one 8-10 cell battery. Is this possible? Can it be built?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazspeed View Post
    I have a question on both the olympia and the duo. Can you build a battery pack to fit both? I have the olympia but would love to get the duo on the other side of my bar, but to only use one 8-10 cell battery. Is this possible? Can it be built?
    Sure, a higher capacity battery is not a problem though building a Li-ion pack is not recommended for DIY without the right equipment. All the cells have to be closely matched for the pack to charge properly. There are plenty of websites selling pre-assembled packs though such as All-Battery
    You just need to look for a 7.4V Li-ion pack with PCB (printed circuit board) which is the circuit that prevents over charging and over dis-charging along with helping balance the cells. You can use your current charger, it will just take longer to charge.
    An extension cable to give you the connector you need.
    There are also several vendors selling high capacity packs all ready to go such as Open Light Systems.
    Depending on the run time you need the Gemini 7800mAh 6 cell pack will power both lights for 2+ hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    Sure, a higher capacity battery is not a problem though building a Li-ion pack is not recommended for DIY without the right equipment. All the cells have to be closely matched for the pack to charge properly. There are plenty of websites selling pre-assembled packs though such as All-Battery
    You just need to look for a 7.4V Li-ion pack with PCB (printed circuit board) which is the circuit that prevents over charging and over dis-charging along with helping balance the cells. You can use your current charger, it will just take longer to charge.
    An extension cable to give you the connector you need.
    There are also several vendors selling high capacity packs all ready to go such as Open Light Systems.
    Depending on the run time you need the Gemini 7800mAh 6 cell pack will power both lights for 2+ hours.
    I will contact you later today. Than you very much.

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    I'm ready to buy my first front light, the use you'll give is nothing extreme, just long journeys on desolate roads. I am among the DUO and XERA, which I have to buy? DUO or Xera? ( w/ 4 cells pack )

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    Just got the Duo. Playing around with it in a dark room with white walls, it appears to be slightly green in tint, comapred to the Xera. I'll have to see how it looks tonight when it's dark but from what I can tell the color temp looks a little different than the Olympia and Xera. Real world shoud tell the whole story; based off this test, I might be sending back for another Xera. Thanks to Action Led for getting this to me so quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCW View Post
    Just got the Duo. Playing around with it in a dark room with white walls, it appears to be slightly green in tint, comapred to the Xera. I'll have to see how it looks tonight when it's dark but from what I can tell the color temp looks a little different than the Olympia and Xera. Real world shoud tell the whole story; based off this test, I might be sending back for another Xera. Thanks to Action Led for getting this to me so quickly.
    If I remember correctly, the Xera was actually a bit too blue (not good for mud and green we have here in the winter). I would welcome a slightly more white or yellow tint.
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    To me the Olympia and Xera both look about perfect, very white. I have a Niteflux Photon Max that is more blue comparatively. I also have a Foride (it's just like the MagicShine MJ-856) that is quite warm, tending toward slightly yellow. I prefer the color temp of the Olympia/Xera as they match each other perfectly and appear brilliant white. Of course the Duo may be a good match too but that will require more than shining it on the wall.

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    Another thing I noticed, the Duo moves around a bit more easy on its mount than the Olympia/Xera . I tried to tighten the bolt but it felt bottomed out already. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCW View Post
    Another thing I noticed, the Duo moves around a bit more easy on its mount than the Olympia/Xera . I tried to tighten the bolt but it felt bottomed out already. Thoughts?
    I noticed the same thing. Thanks for reminding me. I plan to put a washer made from an old tube between the mount and base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    I noticed the same thing. Thanks for reminding me. I plan to put a washer made from an old tube between the mount and base.
    Good idea. I didn't ride tonight but played around outside with the Duo. The Duo has a bit more of a defined hotspot than I expected. The large hotspot seems to have some faint artifacts in the middle which makes it exhibit a slight donut. As I mentioned earlier it has a slightly lower color temp than my other Gemini lights. Tomorrow we are doing a large group ride. I talked a buddy into getting the Duo last week. Hopefully, he will bring his so I can ascertain if I got a dud. My light doesn't appear to have any more throw than my Xera with the wide optic. Something might be wrong.

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    My buddy with the other Duo didn't show last night so I couldn't directly compare my Duo to his. However, I did compare it to another light, the Light and Motion Taz 1200. The Duo put out more light, the 1400 lumen rating might be legit. Real-world use reveals this to be an excellent light. After the first lap, at dusk we stopped and grabbed the lights. I forgot to grab my bar light so went with the Duo on the helmet, alone. My wife ran the Olympia/Xera combo. On the trail the Duo on high worked well as a single unit, has just enough throw for the open stretches but also has a wide beam for the tight portions of the trail. When we came up on another large group of riders I had to power down to 60% so the dust particles didn't blind me too much; a bar light would've been helpful.

    Anyway, I'm still intereted to see how my buddy's Duo looks in comparison. The slight donut hole in the middle of the beam and lower color temp makes me wonder if the other units look the same. If his is whiter (a better match to the Olympia/Xera) then I will send back to Action Led for trade. If not, I'll happily live with it and chalk it up to the miniscule design of the dual optics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TCW View Post
    Another thing I noticed, the Duo moves around a bit more easy on its mount than the Olympia/Xera . I tried to tighten the bolt but it felt bottomed out already. Thoughts?
    Yeah it's a step bolt. I put a thicker o-ring on mine and now it stays put.

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    I noticed the same thing. Thanks for reminding me. I plan to put a washer made from an old tube between the mount and base.
    Quote Originally Posted by presslab View Post
    Yeah it's a step bolt. I put a thicker o-ring on mine and now it stays put.
    I cut a washer from an old ultra-thin tube and put it between the mount and light head. Problem solved.

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    I love my Duo! Purchasing Olympia for the bars next! So far my Duo seems to have enough tension without any twisting yet will keep an eye on the unit. Thanks for the heads up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by presslab View Post
    Yeah it's a step bolt. I put a thicker o-ring on mine and now it stays put.
    Yeah, I didn't have a small, thicker, O-ring laying around so I did the thin-tube shim method. It works well but I'd rather do the o-ring. Might have to pick up a few next time I'm in town. The tension on the Olympia/Xera is just right, IMO. The Duo moves way too easy without modification.

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    Just recieved the Duo i ordered for the wife. First impressions are the light is very small and looks well built. Same consistency of quality finish as my Xera's. Still light outside so only had a chance to shine in the dark garage. I really like the colour rendition as it is slightly warmer than the Xera. Infact the Xera seems to have a violet tint to it in comparison, it must be the optic as Xm-L's ar not known to have this. Will wait until dark to check out beam shape and overall brightness compared to the Xera.

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    Just did a 24hr of GA w/ the Duo on helmet and Xera on Handle bar. I let my bro borrow my Olympia and he ran it on his handle bar and Xera on his helmet. All i can say is that "Well done Gemini". I no longer search for a perfect light combo
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    Just got my Duo 2-cell kit today, and am impressed with the build quality and all that comes with the kit. Even though it's raining I might just have to head out for a ride and test it!
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    I just received the Duo and figured I would share my initial impression. My previous helmet light was the MJ 808e (the xml version) that recently stopped working. My principle dislike with the 808e was with its weight which caused my helmet to move around too much in the rough stuff. The Duo is significantly lighter and the difference is dramatic when wearing it on the head. Given its lack of mass it will be interesting to see how well the Duo dissipates heat. The beam is smooth and considerably wider that the 808e. However, lacks a focused hot spot. I donít believe that it will throw quite as far as the 808e. These are my initial backyard impressions. I will report back after I get the Duo out on the trail.

    Is there anyone out there that has access to the Duo and Glow Worm X2 v2? A lot of us would like to know how they compare.

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    That's exactly what I need to know!! Duo vs Gloworm X2 beam shot picts. I need a long throw beam that is light and low profile on helmet. Gloworm also coming out with a new X1 soon, just a thought!!

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    Gemini may be working on a more spot oriented reflector/optic for the Duo or if enough people ask for it they will.

    I call the Duo the Xera on steroids with that nice smooth beam and a maybe bit more throw. I would love to see this thing with a more focused throwing beam option. Gemini....you listening?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Gemini may be working on a more spot oriented reflector/optic for the Duo or if enough people ask for it they will.

    I call the Duo the Xera on steroids with that nice smooth beam and a maybe bit more throw. I would love to see this thing with a more focused throwing beam option. Gemini....you listening?
    Seems odd they wouldn't design it to use the same reflector/optic shape/size as the Xera - drop it in and go.
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    Yea, I think over all you get better value with Gloworm, better features, better Battery with "Pan. cells" also cool meter on battery. Mounting system is lower and stronger, being able to change optic lens is a real + and remote.
    I put an order on the Gemini Duo than canceled it, I know the Gemini is great product and well made.

    I will wait a few days to make up my mind. Going out for a ride, daylight now!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    Seems odd they wouldn't design it to use the same reflector/optic shape/size as the Xera - drop it in and go.
    the optics on the Duo are a lot smaller than the Xera's optic.

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