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    Quick update.

    I recieved the no charge replacment battery for my Tri-clone. Charged and discharged it twice with my hobby charger. 1907 and 1869 milliamperes is all that I could pull out. Ouch! Worse than my first battery. I've emailed the seller and thanked them for good communication and good shipping. I did inform them that they would be getting neutral feedback as I feel the product isn't as described.

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    I swa that too. I am also waiting for a replacement battery. Mine pulls out 1700 mAh untill 3V during discharge on a hobby charger. But I also saw that there is a huge gap between the 1st and 2nd series - about 300mV at about middle of the discharge process. It is the PCB that cuts out the source due to exhausted half of the pack. Perhaps one should combine two packs to get some more reliable pack and the bad cells throw away for recycle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Grumpy View Post
    Quick update.

    I recieved the no charge replacment battery for my Tri-clone. Charged and discharged it twice with my hobby charger. 1907 and 1869 milliamperes is all that I could pull out. Ouch! Worse than my first battery. I've emailed the seller and thanked them for good communication and good shipping. I did inform them that they would be getting neutral feedback as I feel the product isn't as described.

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    10 Ah battery now at KD

    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    why not buy one of these batteries and be the first to give it a review??
    Perhaps this is old 'news', but KD now sells a similar 4 x 26650 8,4V/10Ah battery, and it is a little cheaper too 25.39 USD
    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S020905

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    My runtime test of the LT-box battery is here:
    New clone 3 x XML T-6 49.88 shipped



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    Quote Originally Posted by HakanC View Post
    Perhaps this is old 'news', but KD now sells a similar 4 x 26650 8,4V/10Ah battery, and it is a little cheaper too 25.39 USD
    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S020905

    Please note:
    I have no personal experience of the KD battery, ie I don't know if the contacts will fit.


    My runtime test of the LT-box battery is here:
    New clone 3 x XML T-6 49.88 shipped



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    Thanks Håkan....Good find on the KD battery. I have a feeling that these 26650 batteries are going to be coming out of the woodwork. The KD battery is listing as 12000mAh. At first I thought there was no such thing as a 6000mAh 26650 cell. A quick search proved me wrong. It seems there is an 6000mAh cell and a 6300mAh cell! However both of these cells are *something*- fires....Ultrafire...Tangsfire...you get the idea. I haven't had a chance to check reviews but I expect actual mAh rating is likely around 4200mAh but I could be wrong on that.

    Still, can't beat the price. If you need a long running battery and don't mind the extra weight of the 26650's then these could be your ticket to ride. Just keep in mind that you will need a battery bag big enough to carry them. So far I have yet to see one being sold with the bag included. Now if you happen to have some old bags left over from the old NiMh batteries; those should be big enough to hold the 4 cell 26650 battery.

    Last week I received my first 26650 torch. It's using the Trustfire 5000mAh cell. I'll get back with the run time once I get a chance to play with it.

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    pulled the trigger on this from Amazon, $58 overnight shipping. Can't wait to try it out on friday.

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    Hi. Firstly, thanks to all for a very good info on this 3-clones. Secondly - what do you think about set like this? Any experience with this?

    (sorry, I can't post links, so please just paste the whole name and search for it)

    3 x Cree XM-L T6 4-Mode Bicycle Light (with battery set and charger) kaidomain - $25.39
    4 x 26650 Battery Set for Bicycle light kaidomain - $47.93

    Battery set is claimed to have 12000mAh, but even if it is only half of that - for $25 it would be a steal. I guess...

    I haven't owned LED light yet - is it possible to just simply swap the original battery (famous "4400mAh") with this 4x26650? And will the charger from the original set do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by freebird74 View Post
    Hi. Firstly, thanks to all for a very good info on this 3-clones. Secondly - what do you think about set like this? Any experience with this?

    (sorry, I can't post links, so please just paste the whole name and search for it)

    3 x Cree XM-L T6 4-Mode Bicycle Light (with battery set and charger) kaidomain - $25.39
    4 x 26650 Battery Set for Bicycle light kaidomain - $47.93

    Battery set is claimed to have 12000mAh, but even if it is only half of that - for $25 it would be a steal. I guess...

    I haven't owned LED light yet - is it possible to just simply swap the original battery (famous "4400mAh") with this 4x26650? And will the charger from the original set do?
    If you want to go that route I would e-mail them and see if they could upgrade the battery in the lamp kit to the 26650 battery for a nominal fee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbrewer View Post
    If you want to go that route I would e-mail them and see if they could upgrade the battery in the lamp kit to the 26650 battery for a nominal fee.
    I suppose you could do that but that would mean more waiting for a special order. If it were me I'd just go ahead and order both right from the get go. Dont' be surprised if the standard battery shipped by K/D is a normal battery. Even so It will likely only run the tri-clone about 1.5 hr. Can't hurt to have an extra battery.

    The 26650 battery should get you your longer run time but you will still need a battery bag to use the battery on your bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    I suppose you could do that but that would mean more waiting for a special order. If it were me I'd just go ahead and order both right from the get go. Dont' be surprised if the standard battery shipped by K/D is a normal battery. Even so It will likely only run the tri-clone about 1.5 hr. Can't hurt to have an extra battery.
    Sure, you're right. I have asked about the possibility to swap these batteries, will see.

    The 26650 battery should get you your longer run time but you will still need a battery bag to use the battery on your bike.
    What about making battery set on my own which would be probably much better than the ones mentioned above? Is it just connecting four batteries or more complicated? There are very reliable batteries (tested by guys from budgetlightforum):
    Kingkong INR26650E
    Capacity: 4000mAh-4200mAh
    Full charge: 4.2V
    Nominal voltage: 3.7V
    Cut-off: 2.75V
    Weight: 89g

    They go even beyond given capacity.

    Should they be protected or not for DIY?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freebird74 View Post
    Should they be protected or not for DIY?
    A question that has been asked and answered many times. My response, and not trying to sound like a dick, if you need to ask, you don't know enough about li ion to use unprotected cells.

    I use mostly unprotected cells salvaged from laptops. I run them in holders, charge them individually, frequently check voltage, and use a quality driver with voltage monitoring ability. This has served me well for about 4 years now. When I sell a light to someone, it goes with an assembled pack, with protection circuit, and a dedicated charger. Don't want to be responsible for someone having a li ion incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freebird74 View Post



    What about making battery set on my own which would be probably much better than the ones mentioned above? Is it just connecting four batteries or more complicated? There are very reliable batteries (tested by guys from budgetlightforum):
    Kingkong INR26650E
    Capacity: 4000mAh-4200mAh
    Full charge: 4.2V
    Nominal voltage: 3.7V
    Cut-off: 2.75V
    Weight: 89g

    They go even beyond given capacity.

    Should they be protected or not for DIY?
    Yes you could buy some KK cells and make your own battery but are the KK cells really going to be that much better than the cells in the K/D set-up?
    Now if you could buy a Panasonic quality cell in a 26650 and get a real 5000mAh ( or better ) per cell than building a better battery might be worth a go. Otherwise I'd just go with the K/D and take my chances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Yes you could buy some KK cells and make your own battery but are the KK cells really going to be that much better than the cells in the K/D set-up?
    Now if you could buy a Panasonic quality cell in a 26650 and get a real 5000mAh ( or better ) per cell than building a better battery might be worth a go. Otherwise I'd just go with the K/D and take my chances.
    Keepower 26650 is built around a Panasonic or Sanyo cell. You would think it would have a higher capacity, but it doesn't. King Kong's are just fine if you don't need protection. They've had consistent quality, which is a decent indication that they're not recycled cells like Ultrafire batteries and probably most of the cells that come in our Chinese bike lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaftye View Post
    Keepower 26650 is built around a Panasonic or Sanyo cell. You would think it would have a higher capacity, but it doesn't. King Kong's are just fine if you don't need protection. They've had consistent quality, which is a decent indication that they're not recycled cells like Ultrafire batteries and probably most of the cells that come in our Chinese bike lights.
    Where do you find these batteries? It appreciate it if you post up a link.

    Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbrewer View Post
    Where do you find these batteries? It appreciate it if you post up a link.

    Thanks in advance
    Kumabear on BLF. He's in the US, so shipping is very quick in the US. It looks like he's currently out of Keepower 26650 protected batteries, but has protected King Kong batteries. I wouldn't hesitate to buy and use King Kong 26650's...I already have a couple.

    Here's the comment thread.
    ANNOUNCEMENTS, QUESTIONS and COMMENTS from and for Your BLF BATTERY SUPPLIER | BudgetLightForum.com

    Here's the order thread.
    ONLY BATTERY ORDERS for YOUR BLF US-BASED BATTERY SUPPLIER | BudgetLightForum.com

    As you might see there, I've bought from Kumabear. I plan to buy more cells from him early next year.

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    looks like i have to take apart the version I got today. Single LED works fine, but when switching to Med,it flashes then turns off. Some tapping on the side housing, it works til I hit the next big bump. Thinking pinched wire or solder joint. Other then that and WHEN it worked on Hi, I'm impressed. Low mode was fine too, I had my mityX400 on the bars so the combo worked out. It puts out about the same if not a tad but more spill. I need this new battery pack so I can run on Hi for my entire 2hr ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsigone View Post
    looks like i have to take apart the version I got today. Single LED works fine, but when switching to Med,it flashes then turns off. Some tapping on the side housing, it works til I hit the next big bump. Thinking pinched wire or solder joint. Other then that and WHEN it worked on Hi, I'm impressed. Low mode was fine too, I had my mityX400 on the bars so the combo worked out. It puts out about the same if not a tad but more spill. I need this new battery pack so I can run on Hi for my entire 2hr ride.
    Fixed a cold solder joints but that wasn't the problem. Changed out R1 for a 0 ohm resistor and works like a charm in all modes now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HakanC View Post
    Perhaps this is old 'news', but KD now sells a similar 4 x 26650 8,4V/10Ah battery, and it is a little cheaper too 25.39 USD
    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S020905

    Please note:
    I have no personal experience of the KD battery, ie I don't know if the contacts will fit.


    My runtime test of the LT-box battery is here:
    New clone 3 x XML T-6 49.88 shipped



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    Has anyone tried the Kaidomain battery pack?
    ( sorry if I missed it in the thread)

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    Perhaps this is old news, but KD now sells the Tri-Clone 3 x XM-L lamp for 43,56 USD
    http://kaidomain.com/product/Details.S020615


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    I couldn't tell what size baterry pack Kaidomain are including, do you know?
    jW

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    Unfortunately it looks like only a 2x18650 battery (scroll down to see the battery)

    Big pic: http://manager.kaidomain.com/UploadF...3503530000.jpg

    But KD also sells a bigger battery for only 25,39 USD
    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S020905


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    I have just written to ask them about it.

    Do you know if there's any difference in regards of customs between registered and regular air mail?

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    I just paid the same on Ebay with securityingstore
    So prices are coming down.
    I did just order the Kaidomain battery...

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    Well, you can post the battery runtime here I bet the capacity is about 8Ah

    Quote Originally Posted by the mayor View Post
    I just paid the same on Ebay with securityingstore
    So prices are coming down.
    I did just order the Kaidomain battery...

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    3X CREE SM-L Battery Dead already

    Just an FYI,

    I ordered the 3800Lm 3X CREE XM-L T6 LED LED Headlight Headlamp Bicycle Bike Light ( 320985696278 from Securityingstore via EBAY back in Nov. for $48.63 including shipping.

    While the light worked great, the battery is now dead and won't take a charge. When plugged into the charger, it appears green as if good. It probably went through 8 charging cycles before dying. I have heard of folks resurrecting these, any ideas would be appreciated.

    I had ordered the 4 x 26650 Battery Set for Bicycle light from Kadioman as a backup but I guess it will be the main battery when it arrives. Anybody know how long shipping is from Kadiomain. Their track order doesn't provide any info.

    I also ordered the CREE XML XM-L T6 LED Bike Bicycle Light HeadLight HeadLamp 1200LM Gold from Able Provider via Amazon $38.93. The battery was not the 6400 mAh claimed and they sent me another when I asked them too. They still haven't changed the specs though. Unfortunately the batteries for these 2 lights are different voltages and not interchangable. But it is a nice combination of spot for the helmet and 3x for the bars.

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    So what's the general consensus on this light? From what I'm reading the light is pretty good, but it comes with a sub-standard battery. The battery is pretty much useless. Is that right?

    These things are getting cheaper, $43.64 from a USA based warehouse:
    3800Lm 3X CREE XM L T6 LED LED Bicycle Bike Light Headlight Headlamp | eBay

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    Quote Originally Posted by varider View Post
    So what's the general consensus on this light? From what I'm reading the light is pretty good, but it comes with a sub-standard battery. The battery is pretty much useless. Is that right?

    These things are getting cheaper, $43.64 from a USA based warehouse:
    3800Lm 3X CREE XM L T6 LED LED Bicycle Bike Light Headlight Headlamp | eBay
    That's the same one I just ordered.....I don't think it's a US warehouse though???
    And I ordered a Kaido battery that Hakan linked...
    We'll see how every thing works.
    The prices are crazy....
    I think I paid over $200 for a Vista set up back in the early 90's that was like a birthday candle.
    I then dropped a wad on a Nitesun in the mid 90's that was killer at the time
    Then about 400 on a Nite Rider Moab HID around 2005
    Now I bought 2 lights and a extra battery for $130.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varider View Post
    So what's the general consensus on this light? From what I'm reading the light is pretty good, but it comes with a sub-standard battery. The battery is pretty much useless. Is that right?

    These things are getting cheaper, $43.64 from a USA based warehouse:
    3X CREE XM L T6 LED LED Bicycle Bike Light Headlight Headlamp | eBay[/url]
    I think all have said to expect little from the battery that comes with this light. It hasn't measured up to the 4400 mAh stated. Since this is that same seller that I got mine from, and judging by the expected delivery dates (a 2 week time period), I wouldn't trust the shipping from the US statement that is in the link above. Seems like they are giving themselves 2 days to process order and 2 days for expedited shipping. 4 days from in the US, seems bogus to me.

    Also, these guys said they would send me a replacement battery when I first got it, as it didn't measure up, but they never did.

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    If that ebay vendor has done what you said by shipping from out of country and not sending the promised spare battery, I hope you are still able to grant the rating that seller deserves. Probably not though. That's what I hate about ebay. Bad sellers get inflated undeserved ratings. I like Amazon much better for this reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaftye View Post
    If that ebay vendor has done what you said by shipping from out of country and not sending the promised spare battery, I hope you are still able to grant the rating that seller deserves. Probably not though. That's what I hate about ebay. Bad sellers get inflated undeserved ratings. I like Amazon much better for this reason.
    I agree completely. A while back I tried to contact a seller on ebay when one of my lamps had a problem. The people never answered any of the emails I sent. I tried to go back on ebay to find the vendor so I could rate him negatively but I couldn't even find him.

    E-bay is a joke. Yes, there are some good vendors and some good bargains but you take your chances. I like paying through Paypal so if anything goes wrong you can complain to them. Last but not least if you pay with a credit card you can complain to the CC company if you didn't get what you paid for and are not getting a response from the vendor. No vendor want's to mess with the Credit card companies believe me. Mess with them and they cut you off. If you try to pay with a CCard and the vendor tells you they can't accept your Master Card but can accept your Visa ( or vice versa )....consider that a warning. That means one of the Card companies cut them off more than likely.

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    Yeah, cheap when everything else of quality is 2 to 3 times the price is also a warning. So far I'm gonna guess I've had 2 MS lights and 2 clones. The MS's are dead. The 808 clone battery just bit the dust, 1 year old but at 30 bucks I guess 1 year was good. The light head works tho. The tri clone works but battery was a joke so really this light head wouldn't be working w/o the 6.0 GEO battery I had.

    My Dinotte XML-3's are working fine, 2nd year.

    I do need a new helmet light but am going no cables. Anybody know the best one. Cat, what you think. Was thinking the new Cygo Expellion 700. Anything brighter and smaller. When is Dinotte going to enter the cable less light game???

    MB

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    Quote Originally Posted by mb323323 View Post
    ....I do need a new helmet light but am going no cables. Anybody know the best one. Cat, what you think. Was thinking the new Cygo Expellion 700. Anything brighter and smaller. When is Dinotte going to enter the cable less light game???

    MB
    Not really sure how the new breed of self-contained lamps work as helmet lamps. My concern would be the type of beam pattern they might provide as I like a more spot setup for the helmet.

    Personally when I go wireless on the helmet I just use a Ultrafire 501-B drop-in torch with XM-L 3-mode drop-in. This sits on my helmet really well and is so light-weight that I don't even know it's there. Sadly, with all the fancy vent designs on the newer helmets most people would not be able to use a torch for the helmet without doing some major rigging. ( My helmet is more than fifteen years old. If it ever dies on me I will miss it so much I will probably give it a funeral. )

    If I was in the market for a helmet light that was light-weight, low profile and could be used without wires going off the helmet I would consider the Gloworm X1. No, I don't own one but the reviews are favorable and the set-up ( with two cell Panasonic battery ) can be mounted completely on the helmet. I've used a Gloworm X2 on the helmet with two cell and it is very light-weight / low profile setup as well. The X1 should be even lighter and the people who are reviewing the light say it out-throws the X2 ( with a more confined beam pattern ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Not really sure how the new breed of self-contained lamps work as helmet lamps. My concern would be the type of beam pattern they might provide as I like a more spot setup for the helmet.
    (Perhaps this should be in a thread of its own?)

    I am with Cat here.

    Therefore i wonder if anybody have tried any of the new zoomable lamps that both DX and KD sells?
    UltraFire Cree XM-L U2 1200lm 3-Mode White Zooming Bike Light Headlamp - Black (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/Details.S020897
    068B Cree XM-L T6 600lm 5-Mode White Light Zooming Headlamp - Black (1 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

    On paper they both looks good, but since I have more then enough of lamps for my own use I wan't to know more about them before I buy another lamp.


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    These "high capacity" e-bay/dx/kd 2S2P batteries are very popular :-) Every item has them and they are proven to be trash with max. 1400mAh/cell. They have to sell the lights without battery

    Quote Originally Posted by HakanC View Post
    (Perhaps this should be in a thread of its own?)

    I am with Cat here.

    Therefore i wonder if anybody have tried any of the new zoomable lamps that both DX and KD sells?
    UltraFire Cree XM-L U2 1200lm 3-Mode White Zooming Bike Light Headlamp - Black (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/Details.S020897
    068B Cree XM-L T6 600lm 5-Mode White Light Zooming Headlamp - Black (1 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

    On paper they both looks good, but since I have more then enough of lamps for my own use I wan't to know more about them before I buy another lamp.


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    Sorry if I wasn't clear in my earlier post, I know that the batteries are next to worthless.
    I was wondering more about the lamp and the quality of it.

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    Ah, now I see. It seems like they will have a floody pattern in common. So they obviously won't throw much. The one with U2 seems to be the best.

    Quote Originally Posted by HakanC View Post
    Sorry if I wasn't clear in my earlier post, I know that the batteries are next to worthless.
    I was wondering more about the lamp and the quality of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HakanC View Post
    (Perhaps this should be in a thread of its own?)

    I am with Cat here.

    Therefore i wonder if anybody have tried any of the new zoomable lamps that both DX and KD sells?
    UltraFire Cree XM-L U2 1200lm 3-Mode White Zooming Bike Light Headlamp - Black (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/Details.S020897
    068B Cree XM-L T6 600lm 5-Mode White Light Zooming Headlamp - Black (1 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

    On paper they both looks good, but since I have more then enough of lamps for my own use I wan't to know more about them before I buy another lamp.


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    I've always wondered how these lights would look like when commuting. Because they are zoomable the beam pattern would always have a constant shape without any spill. That would be good if the light was at the right angle to illuminate the road without blinding drivers. Perhaps it would work like those lights with Germany's StVZO approval... I would like to test that...

    I've seen some videos on youtube about zoomable lights and they should work as I've previously said. This could be interesting for me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HakanC View Post
    (Perhaps this should be in a thread of its own?)

    I am with Cat here.

    Therefore i wonder if anybody have tried any of the new zoomable lamps that both DX and KD sells?
    UltraFire Cree XM-L U2 1200lm 3-Mode White Zooming Bike Light Headlamp - Black (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/Details.S020897
    068B Cree XM-L T6 600lm 5-Mode White Light Zooming Headlamp - Black (1 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

    On paper they both looks good, but since I have more then enough of lamps for my own use I wan't to know more about them before I buy another lamp.


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    I have tried the first one (the u2), and I like it. I use it as my helmet for spot duties. I use the popular 3x xml for the bars and the combo is working really pretty well for me. The zoomable uses aspheric lenses and I did a bit of research before purchasing. There is some info in the DIY forum about them, and a few custom jobs. The idea behind them is cool, and I liked the idea of being able to adjust the beam.

    In practice I run the beam pretty tight, and it out throws my 3x by some distance. Too tight on the beam though and the pattern is pretty much a square, the led shape really. I back it out so the square pattern is just gone, and i get a nice BRIGHT spot to help illuminate down the trail where my 3x won't quite reach. Fully out in flood mode, it's a very wide, very distinct circle, with little throw.

    I'll try to create some beam shots and post them, but I can say I'm quite satisfied with the light.

    Oh, as we know these Chinese batteries are crap generally, but this light's battery has done well for me on over 1.5 hour rides without failing or stepping down power. I guess the U2 being more efficient may help a crappy battery perform better.

    I bought on the 'bay and had posted a thread about these lights a few weeks ago. Search 'zoomable'

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    I just saw your post and dig into other DIY topics regarding the aspheric and asymetrical reflector (RITA-A's from ledil: Interesting new reflector from Ledil) There are also beamshots of that reflector in the beamshot's fixed topic of that subforum.
    I would also like to see a headlight with that reflector to test in on the road. Getting bored of all those lights...we need innovation in reflectors to get nice lighting for the road.
    Anyway this is getting off topic...

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    I have no electrical/electronics knowledge or ability. If you buy a separate battery pack, how do you assure compatibility?

    I recently purchased a u2 setup from ebay from brotherhaung(?) how do I check if the battery pack is the 6400mah as advertised?
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    You can simply multiply Current and Time - 6400 mAh means the battery will last for 1 hour if the light consumes 6.4A current. BTW I bought from this seller 3XML too and do not expect 6400mAh. 1st battery ran 25 minutes and he sent me another which lasts hour and 20 mins. You wont get proper battery, although he is able to send you another for exchange :-( Just buy some packs advertised/mentioned in this thread and you have no problems

    Quote Originally Posted by J-Dubya61 View Post
    I have no electrical/electronics knowledge or ability. If you buy a separate battery pack, how do you assure compatibility?

    I recently purchased a u2 setup from ebay from brotherhaung(?) how do I check if the battery pack is the 6400mah as advertised?
    jW

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    Thanks, how much current does a U2 lamp draw?
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    Basically the same as T6 with either 1 or 3 leds, but you better search the forum for reviews of ebay lights
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    Thanks, how much current does a U2 lamp draw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad andy View Post
    I bought on the 'bay and had posted a thread about these lights a few weeks ago. Search 'zoomable'
    Thankyou

    I found your thread:
    thoughts on the zoomable headlamps with aspheric lenses?

    Please create some beam shots and post them in that thread, if you don't mind.

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    Any consensus yet on a decent replacement battery for the 3800lm 3x XML T6 eBay clone? 3 hours minimum runtime is a reasonable demand to make from a battery IMO. $43 for the light, plus $30-ish for the battery is a bargain – or is it all too good to be true?
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    IF you want a bit DIY, this might be a solution

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop View Post
    Any consensus yet on a decent replacement battery for the 3800lm 3x XML T6 eBay clone? 3 hours minimum runtime is a reasonable demand to make from a battery IMO. $43 for the light, plus $30-ish for the battery is a bargain – or is it all too good to be true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    These "high capacity" e-bay/dx/kd 2S2P batteries are very popular :-) Every item has them and they are proven to be trash with max. 1400mAh/cell. They have to sell the lights without battery
    Please, please!....do not group the ebay lamp / battery sellers in with the stuff you buy directly from China ( from a Chinese web site.) "Deal Extreme".."Kaidomain" and other Chinese web sites need to be judged by their own merits ( or faults ). A lot of people have bought directly from the Chinese web sites over the years and there have been few complaints about the batteries.
    I'm not saying they're the best quality but no where near as bad as what some ebay sellers are selling. Now if someone bought a Tri-Clone directly from the Chinese web sites and got a bum battery I'd like to hear about it.

    Quoted by Bad Andy:
    ...I have tried the first one (the u2), and I like it. I use it as my helmet for spot duties. I use the popular 3x xml for the bars and the combo is working really pretty well for me. The zoomable uses aspheric lenses and I did a bit of research before purchasing. There is some info in the DIY forum about them, and a few custom jobs. The idea behind them is cool, and I liked the idea of being able to adjust the beam.

    In practice I run the beam pretty tight, and it out throws my 3x by some distance. Too tight on the beam though and the pattern is pretty much a square, the led shape really. I back it out so the square pattern is just gone, and i get a nice BRIGHT spot to help illuminate down the trail where my 3x won't quite reach. Fully out in flood mode, it's a very wide, very distinct circle, with little throw.

    I'll try to create some beam shots and post them, but I can say I'm quite satisfied with the light...
    These new adjustable aspheric lamps are interesting. Pardon me for going off subject a moment but since you are the first to say they own one I have a couple questions: Do you get any secondary rings from the lamp beam pattern when adjusted to a tighter beam pattern? The reason I ask is because I've owned a couple of the adjustable zoom torches and I found those to be just junk. The beam pattern on those have just hideous secondary rings in the beam pattern that are very distracting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post


    These new adjustable aspheric lamps are interesting. Pardon me for going off subject a moment but since you are the first to say they own one I have a couple questions: Do you get any secondary rings from the lamp beam pattern when adjusted to a tighter beam pattern? The reason I ask is because I've owned a couple of the adjustable zoom torches and I found those to be just junk. The beam pattern on those have just hideous secondary rings in the beam pattern that are very distracting.
    I do some beam shots next time I'm out for a ride, but to describe from memory... When beam pattern is tight, for spot/long throw I didn't really notice any specific rings, it's a fairly smooth transition from hotspot center to outside edge. Bear in mind through when really really tight, the hotspot is a square and very discernible. As mentioned earlier, I tend to adjust so its tight, but just rounded off the square. Now when fully adjusted out in flood mode, there is a very distinct ring on the edge. Not multiple rings, just one really noticeable one. Again, I'll try to do some beam shots to help illuminate (hah, a pun!) my description.

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    That would be great, bad andy!
    Thank you.

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    Ok, I won't do that again But have others any experience with the 3XML battery from DX or KD?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Please, please!....do not group the ebay lamp / battery sellers in with the stuff you buy directly from China ( from a Chinese web site.) "Deal Extreme".."Kaidomain" and other Chinese web sites need to be judged by their own merits ( or faults ). A lot of people have bought directly from the Chinese web sites over the years and there have been few complaints about the batteries.
    I'm not saying they're the best quality but no where near as bad as what some ebay sellers are selling. Now if someone bought a Tri-Clone directly from the Chinese web sites and got a bum battery I'd like to hear about it.

    Quoted by Bad Andy:


    These new adjustable aspheric lamps are interesting. Pardon me for going off subject a moment but since you are the first to say they own one I have a couple questions: Do you get any secondary rings from the lamp beam pattern when adjusted to a tighter beam pattern? The reason I ask is because I've owned a couple of the adjustable zoom torches and I found those to be just junk. The beam pattern on those have just hideous secondary rings in the beam pattern that are very distracting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    Ok, I won't do that again But have others any experience with the 3XML battery from DX or KD?
    I remember reading posts of people who bought lights from DX and KD but not the Tri-Clone light specifically. Still even if you buy the Tri-Clone from DX, KD ( or other Chinese site ) while I expect the battery to be better it still will not give you significantly more run time. Maybe 1.5hr on high at best. Nope, to run a 3 XM-L light you need more capacity, at least 5200mAh. That would get you almost two hours on high. Better would be something over 6000mAh.

    The real screw with these Tri-clone lamps is the lack of a low battery warning. At least lamps with blinking red leds when the battery gets low give you something to think about. They ( the warning leds ) won't work the same in cold weather but they're better than nothing.

    If I was going to buy another Tri-Clone lamp I likely would buy from a place like CNqualitygoods.

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