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    New cheap-o Chinese LED bike lights 2014 - please post info/link/review link here :)

    I started this thread to post some info about new Chinese lights. Feel free to post new lights here with link and a link to a review (here on MTBR or everywhere else) Let's keep it clean so we can get a good overview and info at one place ;-)
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    I am adding my 2 cents:

    From FT site: XM-L2 T6 seems neutral white, output current 2.5A, battery pack 8.4V, Modes: Hi > Mid > Lo > SOS.

    Depth 59.2 mm
    Height 88 mm
    Width 59 mm
    Product Weight 271 g

    Mates, finally with a proper bar mount

    $49.63 UniqueFire HD-015 4*Cree XM-L2 T6 3-Mode 2000LM Cool White LED Bike Light - black / US plug at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    Also available at lightmalls for about $40.
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    ... and another one - a 7-UP that I have on the way to review

    From FT site: XM-L2 T6 seems neutral white, output current 2.8A, battery pack 8.4V, Modes: Hi > Mid > Lo > SOS.

    Depth 60 mm
    Height 94 mm
    Width 60 mm
    Product Weight 362 g

    $73.83 TrustFire TR-D014 7*Cree XM-L2 T6 4-Mode 3200LM Cool White Bike Light - US plug charger at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    Also available at Lightscastle and Lightscastle Amazon shop but for about $80-90

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    Review is here: TrustFire TR-D014 7xCree XM-L2 T6 4-Mode 3000LM Bicycle Light (LC)
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    feeling like I'm spamming today

    From FT site: XM-L2 T6, output current 2A, battery pack 8.4V, Modes: Hi > Mid > Lo > Strobe.

    Depth 43.3 mm
    Height 38.8 mm
    Width 68.5 mm
    Product Weight 176 g

    Seems to have a nice remote control.

    $60.35 TrustFire TR-D012 3*Cree XM-L2 T6 4-Mode 1200LM Cool White LED Bike Light - black at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

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    i'm very impressed with this unit from DX.com especially when coupled with a std T6 xm-l cree light on the bars,
    Pretty good Cheap flood U2 Xml style unit

    Really good useable flood light,
    I am the biketart!

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    Re: New cheapo Chinese LED bike lights 2014

    As for Chinese company I will not be using DX.com again slow delivery, slow response and no refund yet have been asked to wait two more weeks!

    Getting the run around.
    Was hoping to see how good these new 2013/4 lights are.
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    I really like the idea of having this thread. I've seen a few different interesting lights pop up (like that Trustfire TR-D012 above) and didn't want to be posting up new threads for every new light.

    -Garry

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    Thanks Garry! Everyone is welcome to post info here. I was little frustrated seeing new thread without a review for every light that newly appears

    Another stuff - the 7-up ugly one and little pricey too

    From FT site: XM-L2 T6, battery pack 8.4V, Modes: Hi > Lo > Strobe.

    Depth 47 mm
    Height 61 mm
    Width 172 mm
    Product Weight 420 g

    $98.08 TrustFire TR-D013 7*Cree XM-L2 T6 3-Mode 3200LM Cool White LED Bike Light - US plug charger at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

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    And a single led one:

    From FT site: XM-L T6, output current 2.8A, battery pack 8.4V, Modes: Hi > Lo > Strobe.

    Cable Length 70 cm
    Depth 40 mm
    Height 52 mm
    Width 51 mm
    Product Weight 114 g

    $11.97 UltraFire MT-40 1*Cree XM-L T6 3-Mode 900LM Cool White LED Bike Light - gold at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlakeOrange View Post
    This is one good choice.

    3000 Lumens 10W High Power CREE 3 Head XML T6 LED Bicycle Bike White Light Head Lamp 2 in 1 Aluminum alloy Waterproofing.

    US $21.97. Can't get the picture. But you can buy it directly from aliexpress.

    3000 Lumens 10W High Power CREE 3 Head XML T6 LED Bicycle Bike White Light Head Lamp 2 in 1 Aluminum alloy Waterproofing-in Bicycle Light from Sports & Entertainment on Aliexpress.com

    I recently received a similar light (from ebay). It's just the single large middle light with the same parallel cell battery holder. It needs attention before I run it long. No thermal paste under the emitter, pill is solid but hardly makes contact to the body. I did not test current output. There is a light behind the button that always has power (IIRC it blinks every couple seconds) so you have to remove batteries when not in use. I mainly bought it as a host due to the 4.2v parallel cell arrangement.

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    the cree branded ones are the best choice for the bang for the buck category. i've been using a cree/assasin 101-T6 1200 lumen (800 lumen effective) flashlight with a bike mount. night trail riding have never been this enjoyable.

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    Seems like you represent Fasttech. Please stick to real reviews and not advertisements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    And a single led one:

    From FT site: XM-L T6, output current 2.8A, battery pack 8.4V, Modes: Hi > Lo > Strobe.

    Cable Length 70 cm
    Depth 40 mm
    Height 52 mm
    Width 51 mm
    Product Weight 114 g

    $11.97 UltraFire MT-40 1*Cree XM-L T6 3-Mode 900LM Cool White LED Bike Light - gold at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

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    Quite like the look of that. Any idea what the low power is?

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    Maybe it seems but I don't like to advertise FT or anyone else here. The TF D014 light is also available at Lightscastle (which is the one I get to review, it is available also on their Amazon shop). This thread is here for two main reasons:

    1. to keep clean single light discussion dedicated threads from crap posted there.

    2. to give clean info where can we find new lights and what is it like if the review exists.

    I spent a lot of my time searching through FT, LM, LC, BG, DX, CNQG, KD sites to look what is new. To that date I was doing it only FT and LC site had some new lights so it looks like FT advert. Those new lights won't have a review very soon. But if you find a review of any light mentioned here anywhere feel free to link it.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhocewar View Post
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    Seems like you represent Fasttech. Please stick to real reviews and not advertisements.
    I am afraid we don't know much about these lights. They appeared just recently. When I find some reviews around I update my posts. If anyone can find a review just reply with quote to keep these up to date. Anyway I like that MT-40 too

    Quote Originally Posted by znomit View Post
    Quite like the look of that. Any idea what the low power is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    I am afraid we don't know much about these lights. They appeared just recently. When I find some reviews around I update my posts. If anyone can find a review just reply with quote to keep these up to date. Anyway I like that MT-40 too
    Ordered.

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    Looking forward to see a small review and a couple of beamshots

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    Anyone own one of these? SecurityIng® 2 x CREE XM-L T6 LED 3-Mode 1800LM Headlamp, CREE LED Lamp Headlight with Adjustable Base (No Battery) - Led Lights - Amazon.com

    I recently purchased another, single-led headlamp and easily converted it for helmet use (elastic slips out, velcro goes in), so I'm tempted to try this one with dual Cree setup.

    I've noted the runtimes for 2-cell lamps like the Gemini Duo and it seems that with 2 LEDs, you get a decent runtime and lumens if you run them off of max, as opposed to turbo/high mode on a single LED.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Yes I think Kir reviewed this somewhere around the lights & night riding forum. It is a Klarus BT-20 clone as I can remember.

    Something from DX that has been mentioned in the SS X2 thread:

    Power Supply: 1 x 12-18650 battery pack (13200mAh, 8.4V, 2 PCS in series and 6 PCS in parallel, included) - a good brick to carry
    Current: 2.5 x 9A
    Actual Lumens: 6000lumens (I really doubt ...)
    Runtime: 4~5Hour
    Number of Modes 5 - Hi , Mid , Low , Fast Strobe , SOS

    With the classic ridiculous cheap plastic mount I saw some 15 XM-L torches around China so I am patiently waiting for a 15 led light

    SingFire SF-823 9 x Cree XM-L T6 6000lm 5-Mode White Memory Bike Light - Black + Red (12 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

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    The 3 -clone that I am long being temped with. Seems to be the one among the smaller lights around and with XM-L2:

    Current: 3 x 2500A ... hmmm no way
    Theoretical Luminous: 3 x 800lumens
    Actual Luminous: 3 x 400lumens
    Runtime: 2.5Hour
    Mode Arrangement: Hi,Mid,Low,Fast Strobe,SOS
    Tailcap power switch, head side mode switch; Long press the mode switch to enter into fast strobe mode.

    Anyway I like this light, UI is almost like MJ-880 clone.

    WindFire 3 x CREE XM-L T6 1200lm 5-Mode White Bicycle Light - Red (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

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    And the single XM-L2 with claimed 700 lumens and 2-3 hrs run-time

    MarsFire M06 CREE XM-L2 T6 3-Mode 700LM White Bike Light / Headlamp - Deep Pink (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

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    3800 lumens for $27

    This is the best $27 I have spent. I have one on handlebar, and one on helmet. I just ordered a flood lens for the bar light, and will try it this week. I've pushed battery to 90 minutes on high (3 settings) and the back indicator was still green. Really my only issue is I hate the rubber band mounts - they wobble too much on technical terrain. I've tried gorilla tape around the base to hold it, but then it's hard to adjust. Now I have a rubber handlebar shim around the base, so the rubber band doesn't move.

    Also I don't use the head straps. I cut them off, and mounted the mounting plate directly to my dedicated night helmet (Urge Enduromatic) with gorilla tape. Sorta ghetto but works perfectly. Approx 25 night rides in the last year, all on really technical backcountry terrain.

    Amazon.com : 3x CREE XML T6 LED Bicycle Headlight 4 Modes 3800 Lumens + battery + charger : Bike Headlights : Sports & Outdoors

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    A few of the guys ovr here use the Hope QR mounts for hope lights to mount them, needs a little modding but not hard by all accounts,
    Hjave to say, i've never had much issue woith the rubber bands moving, But! I do tend to stretch the smaller one out for oversized bars! ;-)
    I am the biketart!

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    I bought the TF missile H-1 the day it came out on FT.
    Should have it before fall.
    I do like the size of it.
    Action LED has Gloworm http://http://www.action-led-lights....men-bike-light light for $100 with a panasonic battery pack.
    Probably the best deal i have seen.
    Remote switch, waterproof, all metal!

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    If anyone gets UltraFire MT-40 and is willing to take it apart.. I'm interested to see if it's OK for some modding.

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    It is on my list of lights I would like to review Maybe znomit takes me over and will be faster ...

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    Hmm . . . never noticed that one before. I like the idea, but wonder how it actually works out in reality. Only one way to find out . . . so go ahead and order it TiGeo and write us up a review!

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    I am considering it...

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    I'd have a go at it if they sold the light head only (hint hint Lightmalls!).

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    ^^^Agree...need a head-only option on most of these.
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    Indeed....looks interesting. I'm curious to know how the adjustable focus works. I also like that it's using the same Duo-clone body but with alterations. Notice that it even includes a small hood over the front of the led's. The Chinese are getting more inventive.

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    Cat, I don't think the focus is adjustable, I think they are referring t the fact that you can operate each side (narrow/far) independently. Thoughts on going through Lightmalls vs. the same one on eBay?
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    They are just about the same, appeared just recently those Uniquefire HD-016.

    I found one single XM-L adjustable from DX:

    COFLY Zooming Bike Light

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiGeo View Post
    Cat, I don't think the focus is adjustable, I think they are referring t the fact that you can operate each side (narrow/far) independently. Thoughts on going through Lightmalls vs. the same one on eBay?
    Okay, I think I understand what they're doing. One side is using a shallower reflector ( for close in flood ), the other is more narrow for throw. Low beam is likely only the shallow side led on, high only the narrow side led and Duel is both. Last is the strobe. I would of rather preferred a normal three mode ( plus "press and hold strobe ) so all of the LED's would be lit at the same time regardless of mode. Nope, I'd rather buy a regular Duo-clone and just change one of the optics for a wider beam ( If I thought I needed that ).

    As to the Lightmalls vs. eBay...ehhhh...no matter what you chose it's still rolling the dice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Nope, I'd rather buy a regular Duo-clone and just change one of the optics for a wider beam ( If I thought I needed that ).
    Exactly, I wrote something similar in the dedicated thread. This HD016 looses a bit of universality using different reflectors

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    I got these MT-05 and MT-05s lights recently for the kids. They use one on the helmet and one on the handlebar. Broad beam version has lens with diffuser. Narrow beam uses a reflector. Cheap from Fastech and so far I've been really impressed with them. Use the XML-L2 U2 emitter (die is silver colour not green). More info and pics here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TigWorld View Post
    I got these MT-05 and MT-05s lights recently for the kids. They use one on the helmet and one on the handlebar. Broad beam version has lens with diffuser. Narrow beam uses a reflector. Cheap from Fastech and so far I've been really impressed with them. Use the XML-L2 U2 emitter (die is silver colour not green). More info and pics here.
    Thanks TigWorld! I've wondered about that MT-05S light! So tell us more. Is it all flood with very little throw? 1A @ 8.4v, does this mean the output at the LED is close to 2A? 2A sounds decent, esp. for a stock light. How's the build quality? Heatsinking?

    Thanks,
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    The light output for both types is good. The spread beam version is perfect on the handlebars and puts out a nice wide beam and is brighter, bigger and more consistent than my Magicshine clone with broad beam diffuser lens. It does not have a lot of throw, but combined with the non-S version on the helmet it is almost the perfect lightweight, long run-time setup for offroad singletrack. Heat dissapation seems good, although its winter here so every light runs pretty cool. The ring light is an interesting addition. It's a very diffuse, not too bright light that is good for trailside mechanical repairs or seeing around camp at night.

    Yep. 1A @ 8.4V so taking into account the driver losses, maybe 1.6-1.8A at the emitter.

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    Thanks for the info, these ones are also on my "to review" list

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    HD016 appeared at FT site too, spec 1800lm and tint temp: 6500-7500K.

    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    Exactly, I wrote something similar in the dedicated thread. This HD016 looses a bit of universality using different reflectors

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    I bought these for my kids and full power for over 3 hours. Only have one ride with them so don't know how durable they are.

    5000 Lumens 2X CREE XM L U2 LED Cycling Bike Bicycle Light Headlamp Headlight | eBay

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    Yes, that is probably the most popular and cloned budget light in past 2-3 years which dedicated thread holds about 20-30 pages

    Edited: Epic SS X2 thread holds 37 pages
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbl_91762 View Post
    I bought these for my kids and full power for over 3 hours. Only have one ride with them so don't know how durable they are.

    5000 Lumens 2X CREE XM L U2 LED Cycling Bike Bicycle Light Headlamp Headlight | eBay
    These are bright lights. You didn't mention how old your kids were but if they are under 12yrs of age they need to know that these lamps can blind people if used improperly.

    ...makes me remember my first bike lights, which back in those days were the cheap 2watt D-cell, silver tear drop shaped lamps that bolted to the handlebars. They didn't provide much light but as a kid I didn't care as long as I could avoid hitting a pot hole. Ah, those were the days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbl_91762 View Post
    I bought these for my kids and full power for over 3 hours. Only have one ride with them so don't know how durable they are.

    5000 Lumens 2X CREE XM L U2 LED Cycling Bike Bicycle Light Headlamp Headlight | eBay
    Went for a quick ride last night and these ebay lights are brighter then my Magicshine LM1400 that I bought years ago for over $150. Hell Im gonna get me one to mount on my helmet! Cant beat them for the price IMO

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    Found something new again @ KD:

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    seems interesting & small enough Claimed high mode 3A@4.2V

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    Looks like optics vs. reflectors. Cool looking...kind of Jetson's like!
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    So, anyone got their MT-40?

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    Good idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigWorld View Post
    I got these MT-05 and MT-05s lights recently for the kids. They use one on the helmet and one on the handlebar. Broad beam version has lens with diffuser. Narrow beam uses a reflector. Cheap from Fastech and so far I've been really impressed with them. Use the XML-L2 U2 emitter (die is silver colour not green). More info and pics here.

    NOTE: I just received one of the MT-05s (supposedly with the wide angle lens as shown above) and while it is gold in color it does NOT have the wide angle lens! I'm contacting FastTech support on it. Ugh! This was the major reason I chose it! I did receive my order in 8 days though!

    -Garry

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    Quote Originally Posted by znomit View Post
    Quite like the look of that. Any idea what the low power is?
    Had the MT40 for about six weeks. Fasttech sent another out when the original didn't arrive.
    Its quite spotty, probably good for the helmet or on the highway. It wasn't much help as a bar light on the local hilly descents.
    I have stippled the reflector which might help a little.

    Current draw at 7V is 800/200mA. No noticeable flicker on low so its better than my cheap MS clone.

    Knurling isn't the best quality, inside the LED is nicely stuck down but no thermal compound between the pill and the case.

    All in all pretty happy for the price.

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    Small update to the Windfire trishot XM-L2 - the review: WindFire 3 x CREE XM-L T6 1200lm 5-Mode

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    A better idea rather than using a cheapo chinese bicycle lights is... to use a good cheap 12v x 4 XM-L U2 light for ATV / UTV rated at 2500-2600 of true lumens. You can buy only a head and equip it with a good 12-14v battery. The pros are that such light stays not overheated even when not moving (due to its size) and it provides a wider beam and is brighter even than Gloworm XS. The cons is that you will get only one-mode light (but you could change the driver and add a remote control).
    30W 12V 3000LM CREE T6 LED Driving Fog Light Lamp Rally Ranger 4x4 Dirt ATV | eBay



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    Automotive style lights can be equipped with a not very efficient electronics (b/c of the wide power input).

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    Cheep LED Lights

    I tried the china game, too far, too slow, sjit for refunds.

    Now I have some Amazon chinacheepies(see amazon links below) that all came with 2 day shipping

    The weak point in most of these lights are the batteries, I have a couple of Panasonic packs from an ebay seller called Hunk Lee

    This looks pretty awesome, SecurityIng® 6000LM 5 x CREE XM-L T6 LED

    I have one of these on my helmet, 5000 Lumen 2x CREE XML U2 LED

    lots to choose from, SecurityIng : Cycling

    I have a 4xCREE light on my bars with a 6 cell battery.

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    This is going to be the next "game changer" light from China. 360 degrees of rotation, why didn't I think of that

    VICMAX VI-06 Rotatable 800lm 3-Mode Cool White Bicycle Headlamp w/ Cree XM-L2 T6 - Black (4 x 18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme


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    Quote Originally Posted by scar View Post
    This is going to be the next "game changer" light from China. 360 degrees of rotation, why didn't I think of that

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    Haha, these guys are smoking the good stuff!

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    If only it was possible that it ran anywhere near 60W. I suspect you'd be lucky to see 20W. Biggest problem I see is the 8.4V battery means the light head would need to be drawing over 7 amps from the battery. The connectors and relatively thin gauge power cables these Chinese lights use just can't pass that kind of current. The next problem is the light body just doesn't have the heat sink area to dissipate that much waste heat.

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    Agree, I would say it is somewhere around the 7-UPs (at most 30-36W). But quite unique so I posted it here 4 in 1 SolarStorm X2.

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    Any new recommendations from this year's lights? My friend is looking, and I'm comfortable recommending him the same 2x & 3x setup that I have, but if there's something better (bright-er_light-er_wid-er_strong-er) out there...

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    Don't think any gamechangers out now. This 2X looks quite interesting with tir optics: New cheapo Chinese LED bike lights 2014 - please post info/link/review link here - Page 2
    and this 3X runs fine also, if you change the driver for a KD one, you can get 30W out of it: WindFire 3 x CREE XM-L T6 1200lm 5-Mode
    It is small, compact and uses a 26mm flashlight driver, smaller than the 3XML clone and Skyray S6, all leds are lit in every mode, weight is about a Solarstorm X3. Besides these there are SS X2, SS X3, MJ-880 clone and yinding - gloworm X2 clone ... each with different UI

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    New tri-shot at LM appeared today, with a touch interface(?), stepless, heatsinked (somewhat ridiculous), nice weight, prolly hard to take apart ... might be a gamechanger ...

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    Thanks for the feedback. I have a KD MJ-880 clone and it is solid, but I have read that new newer ones were getting cheaply built? Maybe the one you posted in the other thread (http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S023301) is a better buy at the moment? Does any one own one and can comment on the beam pattern? Hmm, I do like the looks of the 3X light. My 3X unit is powerful, but as I have said in other threads, I do not like the hot spot it creates.

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    Just note the power input of that new 2x KD light is 4.2V. I assume it won't draw 4-5A to match the 16-18W of SS X2.

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    Thats tiny Length (70mm)
    You think your going to get one MK96?
    What that on the back about Gears? Anyone know

    Looking at UniqueFire HD-016 2x Cree XM-L2

    PALIGHT XC40 2x Cree XM-L2
    ^ got a switch and combos.

    Do like my Yinding on my lid but would like it to be more of a spot.


    Thanks Iv been lazy should had a look see if there was a review on Palight.
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    I am tempted to get one I think it is just an indication what you are running actually - 5mode/stepless.

    Personally I don't like the various depth of the reflectors on the HD-016

    That Palight XC40 has somewhere here on forums a small review and not a good one

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke&Lasers View Post
    Thats tiny Length (70mm)
    You think your going to get one MK96?
    What that on the back about Gears? Anyone know

    Looking at UniqueFire HD-016 2x Cree XM-L2

    PALIGHT XC40 2x Cree XM-L2
    ^ got a switch and combos.

    Do like my Yinding on my lid but would like it to be more of a spot.

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    Of all the new stuff I've seen this year, this is the one I'm most interested in so far.
    I have a Yinding from last year that I use on my helmet (love the Yinding). I use a triple on my bars, but rarely use all 3 leds (to conserve battery, and not much difference between 2 LEDs and 3 LEDs anyway).
    So, I was just going to get another Yinding, but I like variety, and trying new lights, so I think I'm going to give the Uniquefire a try. I like the spot/flood feature. I like that it has a little "visor" so that when I'm cranking with my head out over my bars, the light won't blind me as easily. And of course I like that it comes in red so it matches my Yinding.

    Anyone get one yet?

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    Does anyone know where you can buy just the diffused lenses that fit these?

    Quote Originally Posted by TigWorld View Post
    I got these MT-05 and MT-05s lights recently for the kids. They use one on the helmet and one on the handlebar. Broad beam version has lens with diffuser. Narrow beam uses a reflector. Cheap from Fastech and so far I've been really impressed with them. Use the XML-L2 U2 emitter (die is silver colour not green). More info and pics here.


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    Okay, here's the issue with the duel XM-L2 Uniquefire's; As nice as they look they are doing the 1LED-the other LED- both LED, type of mode operation. I think the reason they are doing this is because one LED is using a shallower flood reflector ( low ), the other a normal deeper reflector spot ( called medium ) Both LED's are lit for High. I almost bought one of these myself but when I saw how the modes worked I bailed. I would rather they use a typical SSX2 UI ( with all led's lit all the time ) I do however like the idea of the single flood reflector. Undoubtedly it will work good on the bars but I just wish all the leds would stay lit for every mode.

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    Didn't see that about single led lit at one time.

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    +1 to this. But a driver swap (from SS X2) might solve this nicely :-P

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightnut View Post
    Does anyone know where you can buy just the diffused lenses that fit these?
    I've posted before that mine came without the diffuser lens (standard glass - which by the way showed 18% light loss in an integrating sphere!). The light uses a 21mm lens, but I am unsure on the depth. I am about to order some AR coated glass lenses and this 20mm striped TIR from KD to try out. I don't expect to have my order for 3 to 4 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke&Lasers View Post
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    Didn't see that about single led lit at one time.
    Yeah, they write it in a way that is deceptive.

    The other lamp that was mentioned ( Palight XC40 ) has a flood and spot reflector but has a separate switch for each LED ( if I understand correctly ). Not a total deal breaker but the XC40 doesn't look as nice as the UF.

    @ MK96...you could swap the driver but I'm sure that's not so easy to do. It might be easier to just take a SSX2 and see if you can find a suitable sized flood optic ( or flood lens ) and fit it over one of the LEDs.

    @ Fightnut....Probably the best way to go about getting the lens you want is to just buy another *BUT from another vendor. I see those little single LED lamps all over the place. The price is not so significant that it would be that much difference even if you found a place that sold the lens separately. Look at it this way; you buy the lens for $16 including free shipping and they give you the lamp for free. Then you have two working lamps OR you sell the one you don't want ( or give it to your kid brother )

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    Oh, yes, I didn't say it is an easy job. But if someone has a spare SS X2 with burned leds and likes the look of the UF HD ...

    Anyway I find that Palight abit pricey

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    So I decided to start night riding and originaly went to my LBS and asked them for something bright in the $50 range. They sold me a Blackburn3.3 that came with a Mars tail light.


    And it looks like this at night



    Garbage...great to let cars see you but useless on the trail.
    So I bought a 7 cree xml2 cheap chinese light which cost about the same as the Blackburn.



    And it looks like this at night



    So I have used it a few times now and the battery has lasted my full ride every time.
    So IMHO Cheap Chinese lights for the win!!
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    In keeping with the "New Chinese Light" theme I decided to review one of the 6-ups.
    In a nutshell I was approached and asked to review a product for one of the Chinese websites. Since I generally don't like these kind of lamps I balked at first but then saw one on their website I though might be of interest to others ( if not to me ).

    Basically it will have 6 x XM-L2's ( in standard round casing ) and have a standard three mode user interface ( L-M-H ). No flash was listed. Like most of these lamps it has the typical multi-reflector set-up. It is supposed to include a 6-cell battery and cost about $61 USD. I'll supply the link when the product arrives. Being shipped from China it should take about three weeks to get to me. Hopefully when it arrives it won't have one of those "number of LED's for each mode: type UI. If it does I'll be pissed.

    BTW, with days getting shorter you might consider ordering stuff before the seasonal rush starts and the Chinese vendors run out of stuff and start back-ordering. Just a thought.

    *Update, the UI is confirmed to be with ALL LED on for every mode. Supposedly to be over 5000 lumen but if it actually appears over 2000 lumen I will be pleasantly surprised.
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    Any picture? I will write a review of a Skyray S6-like 6-up, but it works in 2-4-6 leds + strobe modes. Anyway I've got a DX stepless driver to replace the original. Mine 6-up has the same dimensions as the Skyray S6 3-shot so it is not that large.

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    These ginormous 6-8 LED lights are just hideous to me...sorry. Seems like you can get a much smaller and lighter unit that will light your way just as well.
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    I would be highly concerned about battery life in these multi-emitter lights (beyond 4 XM-Ls). There's always a trade-off.

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    Spinal Tap - These go to eleven

    3 LEDs or 6 LEDs

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrybunk View Post
    I would be highly concerned about battery life in these multi-emitter lights (beyond 4 XM-Ls). There's always a trade-off.

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    Seems like you would have to use one of the v. large batteries for these (6 cell).
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    I hear ya Cat, but that isn't a big issue for me. I'm always going to use it with both leds ON, so just 3 quick clicks and I'm good to go. I have one of the popular triple's from a year or two ago, and I have to click three times to get to high on that one too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Okay, here's the issue with the duel XM-L2 Uniquefire's; As nice as they look they are doing the 1LED-the other LED- both LED, type of mode operation. I think the reason they are doing this is because one LED is using a shallower flood reflector ( low ), the other a normal deeper reflector spot ( called medium ) Both LED's are lit for High. I almost bought one of these myself but when I saw how the modes worked I bailed. I would rather they use a typical SSX2 UI ( with all led's lit all the time ) I do however like the idea of the single flood reflector. Undoubtedly it will work good on the bars but I just wish all the leds would stay lit for every mode.

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    The one I have had lasted over 2hrs on high. My friend has a single led light and his does not. So the batteries are the weak/hit and miss part of the light. Some are good and some are not

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    Now were up to 9 LED's in one. I'm gonna hold out for 10!

    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/Details.S023271

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    Ebay has 15 in a flashlight so you might as well hold out for 15

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiGeo View Post
    These ginormous 6-8 LED lights are just hideous to me...sorry. Seems like you can get a much smaller and lighter unit that will light your way just as well.
    As you know I am very inclined to agree with you as I just love my Gloworm X2. Still some folks can't afford the price so I thought I'd do one of these since I've never seen more than 4 led's in a lamp before ( in person that is ) and this one actually has three steady modes ( which is somewhat unique for this type of lamp ).

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    @MB323 x 2 ....it's not the number of LED's that's so important, it's the power that you can supply to those LED's that will determine how bright the lamp will be. Very few of these lamps have listed what the total power output is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    As you know I am very inclined to agree with you as I just love my Gloworm X2. Still some folks can't afford the price so I thought I'd do one of these since I've never seen more than 4 led's in a lamp before ( in person that is ) and this one actually has three steady modes ( which is somewhat unique for this type of lamp ).

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    Dont even bother. We tested it last year.

    It is big, it tilts forward when riding gets rough, but the main fail is, that it is not much brighter than average 2xXML chinese clone. Maybe 20% more brightness. The beam pattern is
    nice for us alpine vertriders. It is quite floody and even.
    We tried to mod it by changing the driver for more power/brightness but we ran into a problem when discovered the LEDs being wired 3S2P. That is not a good way to connect LEDs
    We changed the driver but didnt get much more light. The 4xXML with the same driver is seems a bit brighter than this one.

    here are some pics












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    ;o What's a driver.

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    A driver controls the current sent to the LEDs and controls modes, switch functions, etc . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhocewar View Post
    Dont even bother. We tested it last year.

    It is big, it tilts forward when riding gets rough, but the main fail is, that it is not much brighter than average 2xXML chinese clone. Maybe 20% more brightness. The beam pattern is
    nice for us alpine vertriders. It is quite floody and even.
    We tried to mod it by changing the driver for more power/brightness but we ran into a problem when discovered the LEDs being wired 3S2P. That is not a good way to connect LEDs
    We changed the driver but didnt get much more light. The 4xXML with the same driver is seems a bit brighter than this one.....
    Well you said you did this last year. Was yours built with the XM-L2?...was it a 3-mode driver with 3 steady modes?

    I theorized myself that the LEDs might be 3S/2P. While not the ideal situation I thought a boost driver might be used. If the driver supplied 6A that could mean 3A per parallel circuit. With 3A to each LED this could theoretically be a very bright lamp. Do I think it will be a 6A driver under the hood? I doubt it but if it does I will be as surprised as everyone else. With luck I'll have some idea in 16 days or so.

    I'm expected this lamp to output something around 2000 lumen. If the actually output ends up to look brighter than two of my brightest lamps in combo I will be pleasantly pleased. If it doesn't I won't be losing any sleep over the issue. If it ends up looking as bright as my gloworm X2 alone than at least it might be worth actually buying one.

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    XML, 3 mode... HI, LOW, STOBE

    Maybe they changed things in a year time... interesting to see.

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    Cat-man-do, thanks for providing a picture, we will link the review in this thread ;-)

    Ladies, the usual problem is that most of the budget 2-3-6-... LED lamps hit the max. power limit at ~16W. The only main differences are the beam pattern and user interface, some other can be a LED tint, weight, little power difference due to efficiency of more leds connected... The limit is probably due to weak batteries to get somewhat reasonable run time. There are a few exceptions like those purple/grey 7-UPs reviewed but I didn't find anything else in the budget price range.

    Ti-Geo the amount of light is always a question. Sometime I am completely satisfied with an MJ-880 clone but when I want to avoid a close-up with a wild boars hanging around in a decent group I am really happy with hell-a-wide pattern of the 7-UP combo on the bars. This saved my a$$ a couple of times

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    New at FastTech today:

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    BK008 2xXM-L2 with Mobile Power Bank Battery Pack and remote switch. Beam not wide enough for me, but perhaps a good candidate for swapping optics. Wish it had heatsink grooves though.

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    I think they are the same: http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S023301
    Unfortunately it runs from a 4.2V battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK96 View Post
    ....the usual problem is that most of the budget 2-3-6-... LED lamps hit the max. power limit at ~16W. The only main differences are the beam pattern and user interface, some other can be a LED tint, weight, little power difference due to efficiency of more leds connected... The limit is probably due to weak batteries to get somewhat reasonable run time. There are a few exceptions like those purple/grey 7-UPs reviewed but I didn't find anything else in the budget price range...
    Yes, the big question is the maximum power output of the driver. Next is the dispersion and throw of the multi-reflector and then lastly the output spacing of the 3 modes.

    Like you said most budget multi-LED lamps ( 3 or more ) have crappy drivers. Only two of the cheaper lamps I own ( the Manta ray D003 and the Nitefire Hero 2 ( triple S-storm clone ) seem to have better drivers. These are the only two I have that come close to my Gloworm X2 ( 1500 lumen ). If this 6-up manages to look brighter than the X2 I will be impressed. "How impressed", will depend on just how bright the lamp actually is.

    If it turns out to be only about as bright as the D003 I will be disappointed. I figure it this way, if you're gonna use a lamp this big on the bars it has to worthy of it's keep. **Both the D003 and Hero 2 are bright enough to earn their keep ( **weight/size to lumen output ratio is acceptable ). The Black/red 6-up ( I'll nickname, BR-6 ) is big and going to be heavy. That said it needs to be over 1500 lumen if it's going to earn a spot on my handlebars. If the lamp turns out to be only slightly brighter it will real hard to judge. That means it will have to be "noticeably brighter" to earn a thumbs up.

    About the battery: yes the battery is important. If by chance the driver can output 6A the battery needs to be able to supply the juice needed. I believe this lamp comes with a 6-cell. I asked that the lamp be sent separately and that the battery be sent later so I'll be sure to get the lamp ASAP. In keeping with this I will test the lamp both with my good Xeccon batteries and with the included battery when ( or if ) it comes.

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    Like the looks of this that actually has a real bar mount , although I wonder what the true lm's are

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.M.S View Post
    Like the looks of this that actually has a real bar mount , although I wonder what the true lm's are

    CREE 2000LM XM L T6 LED Bicycle Bike Headlight Headlamp Light 18650 Charger Set | eBay

    I actually have that light! I bought it due to the appeal of using (2) 18650's in parallel (I would use unprotected cells without much risk). It's a really crappy light. Very cheaply made. Battery compartment very flimsy. Plastic lens and no thermal paste under the emitter. I swapped mine to a neutral white tint and added the thermal paste. Oh - and like the 808 clones, very little thermal contact between the pill and the body. Real deciding factor not to use it is that low mode is too low for cycling (perhaps while stopped for repairs/snack). High isn't that great, guessing maybe 500 to 600 lumens.

    If you look in the SolarStorm X3 thread for the link to my PhotoBucket album for the X3 you will find beamshot photos of it. The file names will say "two parallel light" I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrybunk View Post
    I actually have that light! I bought it due to the appeal of using (2) 18650's in parallel (I would use unprotected cells without much risk). It's a really crappy light. Very cheaply made. Battery compartment very flimsy. Plastic lens and no thermal paste under the emitter. I swapped mine to a neutral white tint and added the thermal paste. Oh - and like the 808 clones, very little thermal contact between the pill and the body. Real deciding factor not to use it is that low mode is too low for cycling (perhaps while stopped for repairs/snack). High isn't that great, guessing maybe 500 to 600 lumens.

    If you look in the SolarStorm X3 thread for the link to my PhotoBucket album for the X3 you will find beamshot photos of it. The file names will say "two parallel light" I believe.

    -Garry
    Oh I'll take your word that it's crappy , I'm almost thinking about abondoning the idea of getting a cheap Chinese light and save up for and pay extra extra for a well known higher end brand ..

    But then again I've heard some good things about this

    $52.02 YINDING 2*Cree XM-L U2 4-Mode 1800-Lumen White LED Bike Light / Headlamp - 1*battery pack (4*18650 / 4400mAh / 2S2P) / US plug at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    Not sure about this one

    $11.97 UltraFire MT-40 1*Cree XM-L T6 3-Mode 900LM Cool White LED Bike Light - red at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    Maybe yinding for the bars and MT-40 for the helmet ??

    Or does anyone have any experience with this

    2000 LM CREE XM L U2 LED Cycling Head Front Bike Lamp Bicycle Light Headlamp | eBay
    Hit the trails with your bike and get freaky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    **Both the D003 and Hero 2 are bright enough to earn their keep ( **weight/size to lumen output ratio is acceptable ).
    Yes, I forgot to mention the "stepless" driver that is present in some of the lights - that is a step forward. MantaRay and some other 3XML light that I posted here have it. The stepless driver is about $5 at DX. But if yours 6-up come with a stepless driver it will be a ~22W light from the specs in the discussion about the driver at DX forum.

    Yinding is a good light if you get the original and maybe some of the clones with the stepless driver.

    MT-40 has a small review here in this thread.

    Tee last one isn't anywhere near 2000lm, should be 500lm at the best bet

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    The Yinding is a great light! It's one of my favorites.

    I would avoid the one in your last link. Those "zoomable" lights are neat, but aren't very practical. They aren't very bright in flood mode, and have a terrible set of rings around the outside edge of the beam.

    Quote Originally Posted by C.M.S View Post
    Oh I'll take your word that it's crappy , I'm almost thinking about abondoning the idea of getting a cheap Chinese light and save up for and pay extra extra for a well known higher end brand ..

    But then again I've heard some good things about this

    $52.02 YINDING 2*Cree XM-L U2 4-Mode 1800-Lumen White LED Bike Light / Headlamp - 1*battery pack (4*18650 / 4400mAh / 2S2P) / US plug at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    Not sure about this one

    $11.97 UltraFire MT-40 1*Cree XM-L T6 3-Mode 900LM Cool White LED Bike Light - red at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    Maybe yinding for the bars and MT-40 for the helmet ??

    Or does anyone have any experience with this

    2000 LM CREE XM L U2 LED Cycling Head Front Bike Lamp Bicycle Light Headlamp | eBay

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    Pulled out my SecurityIng lights last week to make sure everything was working ok, my 3X Cree had a cracked lens, thought a bit about being stuck 10miles from nowhere and then ordered a gloworm x2 from Action-LED, at least I'm guaranteed to be able to "see" my way home even if I'm walking....

    Quote Originally Posted by patski View Post
    I tried the china game, too far, too slow, shipping eats up your refunds.

    I have one of these X2 TYPE on my helmet, 2600 chinese Lumen 2x CREE XML U2 LED

    lots to choose from, SecurityIng : Cycling

    I have a 3xCREE light on my bars with a 6 cell battery.
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