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    New cheap-o Chinese LED bike lights 2016

    This is the 2016 lights thread to get quick overview with some basic information to keep it clean and useful.

    I found a nice commuter light @ DX, uses TIR optics and is powered by 3 AAA cells and might be converted to 10440 li-ion/lifepo. No way it has thousands of lumes, but still may be usable for city commuting
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    Meh, 1600 lumens (at least) or it's not a light

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    We are used to exaggerated lumen claims Divide by 5-10 and you get the real estimate ...

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    Should have mentioned that I was talking about real OTF 1600 lumens, that's about 2800 chinese lumens
    I reckon this year we will have MTG2 as well as XHP for the first time in bike lights package :P

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    From the product specs.....

    Theoretical Lumens 30lumens
    Actual Lumens 20lumens


    I'm guessing this won't be the next hot seller.

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    Nope, but a commuter light for $5. What power can you expect from 3 AAA

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    It doesn't throw any light to the side. I don't think it would make a good commuter light.
    You'd be invisible side on.

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    A good commuter light needs to be bright enough to see and to be seen. And if it is bright enough it also needs a beam pattern that does not blind other road users (read cut off beam). A light that blinds others is dangerous, and in many places illegal.

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    Ran across this one:



    Looks like a spiker clone. Like the QR mount it has, wish wed see that more or could find mount by itself. Not a bad price though.

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    How about triple twins
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    Also available in blue color
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    Not CREE emitters inside. They are clearly LatticeBright XL leds.

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    Nice find Sirius9. We have to cope with the fact, that these leds are entering the market. I recently bought a car led bulb that was supposed to have a Cree Q5 and I received a bulb with different led.

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    Yes, in the last two years those fake leds are entering to the cheap market more and more. Still think we need to make users aware of it and make a comments each time. It is very easy to overlook that fact. In this particular case DX is not describing leds as Cree but still using XM-L T6 (which are not, correct is only XL) so the buyer can still be missleaded.

    See all LB products: Products-JiangXi Latticebright Corporation
    and XL: XL-JiangXi Latticebright Corporation

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    Well, the market or should I say WE forced this constantly looking to get cheaper and cheaper product, discounts, coupon codes, group buys... That's why the first generation of some light like SRK was best quality and all subsequent generations were just copies with different quality dropping issues.
    What can you expect in 2016: much more holow housings/pills, disappointingly low quality drivers, "UltraFire" level battery packs for lights that come in sets, LaticeBright emitters (because they are cheaper than genuine Cree) ...
    Basically, if you are looking for a good quality light avoid this thread at all costs...

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    Would be nice to see some decent new stuff that isnt so cheap/cheaply made. But your right. People being stupidly cheap (I have been guilty a time or 2) created this mess.

    Only chance is catching new "brands" mostly cause the known cheap brands have already gone this route. Still have hope for nitefighter though and would be nice if yinding created something new since they got it right and still produce decent lights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius9 View Post
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    I saw these the other day while skimming through DX. I like the build but the set-up only has a high and low UI. Would of been more interesting if it had used optics and had a better 3-4 mode UI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirius9 View Post
    Well, the market or should I say WE forced this constantly looking to get cheaper and cheaper product, discounts, coupon codes, group buys... That's why the first generation of some light like SRK was best quality and all subsequent generations were just copies with different quality dropping issues.
    What can you expect in 2016: much more holow housings/pills, disappointingly low quality drivers, "UltraFire" level battery packs for lights that come in sets, LaticeBright emitters (because they are cheaper than genuine Cree) ...
    Basically, if you are looking for a good quality light avoid this thread at all costs...
    Unfortunately I have to agree with most of what you said. Even so it doesn't mean that buying and using a cheap Chinese lamp can't work. It might have crappy thermal properties, cheap components and knock-off emitters but if it works, provides a decent beam pattern, has a usable UI and a decent battery/Charger it can be a cheap way to enter the sport of "Night Mountain biking". While doubtful you can buy something decent in a complete package, if you know what to buy ( and what not to buy ) you can still get something usable that will work.

    Anyway, the point I'm making is that we talk about this stuff so people ( looking for cheaper options ) might find something that will work. Nevertheless you will always be "rolling the dice" when it comes to buying a cheap Chinese made lamp.

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    Thanks for starting a new thread for 2016. I need a new bar mount flood to pair with my Xeccon S12 Two helmet spot light (a great long throw I found recommended a couple years ago by members in this forum including the cat man if I remember correctly).

    While looking for a new bar flood, I was pooring over the threads again and it sounded like the Nightfighter BT40S was a good option, only I can't seem to find it anywhere. I found a Revtronic BT40S on Amazon but I'm not feeling as confident with that since it could be a crappy clone.

    A lighthead only is totally an option as I already have 2 good battery's from mtbrevolution and a questionable battery that came with the bar light I'm replacing.

    Below is the light I'm replacing.

    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S021521

    With 2 and 1/2 seasons of heavy use (frequent use at full power; mix of road and bouncy cx & mtb) it is now turning itself off for no good reason. (Unplug from battery, plug back in and it works for a few minutes and then shuts down again; indicator switch lights go out also.) This was a good light, I'm half tempted to buy another one but I'm curious if there is something better now (and more durable). I could also go for an even wider flood if available, since the S12 handles distance so incredibly well.

    So guys, what do you recommend as a bar light (lighthead only) that is currently available in the $50 - $100 range that has a wide/flood beam pattern and decent quality?

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    That Revtronic BT40S is a verified Nitefighter BT40s. NiteFighters name is changing to Revtronic due to copyright infringement. (There's a thread about it with a link over to BLF where "Andy" of Nitefighter posted about it - even posted that he could provide a discount code.)

    Love my BT40s, but mine is heavily modded. In stock form it's good too, but you'll likely be running on Turbo most of the time wishing you had another mode higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrybunk View Post
    That Revtronic BT40S is a verified Nitefighter BT40s. NiteFighters name is changing to Revtronic due to copyright infringement. (There's a thread about it with a link over to BLF where "Andy" of Nitefighter posted about it - even posted that he could provide a discount code.)

    Love my BT40s, but mine is heavily modded. In stock form it's good too, but you'll likely be running on Turbo most of the time wishing you had another mode higher.

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    Thanks Garry, I see that thread now.

    I am not one to modify my lights in any way, I'm a simpleton in that regard.

    I tend to run my lights in the full power mode unless I have reason to conserve battery power, which typically I don't since most of my night rides are right around the 2 - 2.5hr mark and I have yet to run out of battery (knock on wood). The KD I linked above had a good amount of lumen at full power (which wasn't all that brighter than the middle power mode). I know I do not want to go backwards in the lumen department, but I also don't feel I really need more (just wider spread if possible).

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    Well the KD you linked makes about 1200 lumens. Bt40s is about to 1400 with a wider beam angle. I have one of the KD lights too and love it.

    your issue is probably either a bad connection in the battery pack or the battery cable in the light tripping protection and shutting light off.

    Not going to gain durability sticking with cheap lights. 2.5 seasons is pretty good for the price of the lights
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    Quote Originally Posted by JFR View Post
    Thanks Garry, I see that thread now.

    I am not one to modify my lights in any way, I'm a simpleton in that regard.

    I tend to run my lights in the full power mode unless I have reason to conserve battery power, which typically I don't since most of my night rides are right around the 2 - 2.5hr mark and I have yet to run out of battery (knock on wood). The KD I linked above had a good amount of lumen at full power (which wasn't all that brighter than the middle power mode). I know I do not want to go backwards in the lumen department, but I also don't feel I really need more (just wider spread if possible).
    I see action-led-lights.com has last years Gemini Olympia on for $109 for the lamp head only. I know it's touch over your budget but is an honest 1500 lumen flood light. Keep in mind it doesn't have the best thermal step down as it will go from the high setting to low once the thermal steps in. If you climb on the med setting instead of high this shouldn't be a problem. This way you have stepped up in quality and if in the US will have it in your hands in a couple days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFR View Post
    Thanks for starting a new thread for 2016. I need a new bar mount flood to pair with my Xeccon S12 Two helmet spot light (a great long throw I found recommended a couple years ago by members in this forum including the cat man if I remember correctly).

    While looking for a new bar flood, I was pooring over the threads again and it sounded like the Nightfighter BT40S was a good option, only I can't seem to find it anywhere. I found a Revtronic BT40S on Amazon but I'm not feeling as confident with that since it could be a crappy clone.

    A lighthead only is totally an option as I already have 2 good battery's from mtbrevolution and a questionable battery that came with the bar light I'm replacing.

    Below is the light I'm replacing.

    http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S021521

    With 2 and 1/2 seasons of heavy use (frequent use at full power; mix of road and bouncy cx & mtb) it is now turning itself off for no good reason. (Unplug from battery, plug back in and it works for a few minutes and then shuts down again; indicator switch lights go out also.) This was a good light, I'm half tempted to buy another one but I'm curious if there is something better now (and more durable). I could also go for an even wider flood if available, since the S12 handles distance so incredibly well.

    So guys, what do you recommend as a bar light (lighthead only) that is currently available in the $50 - $100 range that has a wide/flood beam pattern and decent quality?
    Not a lighthead only but I have this light and it puts out a nice amount of light, Xeccon Spiker 1210. Amazon.com : XECCON SPIKER 1210 Bike 4x1600 Lumen Bicycle Front Head Light : Sports & Outdoors

    You are are already familiar with Xeccon's quality and it is shipped from Amazon here in the USA. $79.00 shipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigris99 View Post
    Well the KD you linked makes about 1200 lumens. Bt40s is about to 1400 with a wider beam angle. I have one of the KD lights too and love it.

    your issue is probably either a bad connection in the battery pack or the battery cable in the light tripping protection and shutting light off.

    Not going to gain durability sticking with cheap lights. 2.5 seasons is pretty good for the price of the lights
    Yep, no real complaint for what I got out of the KD. It's a little disappointing, but I understand there is a bit of a gamble the less one spends. Thanks for the BT40s comparison and ideas of what may be the issue with the KD. I'll try it with a different battery and open it up to see what I see. Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckleberry hound View Post
    Not a lighthead only but I have this light and it puts out a nice amount of light, Xeccon Spiker 1210. Amazon.com : XECCON SPIKER 1210 Bike 4x1600 Lumen Bicycle Front Head Light : Sports & Outdoors

    You are are already familiar with Xeccon's quality and it is shipped from Amazon here in the USA. $79.00 shipped.
    Oooh, the Xeccon flood brother to my X12... discounted and with a battery. Thanks!

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