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    Magicshine mj-880 anyone?

    Has anyone ordered or know any info on the MJ-880?

    Reviews or Pics?

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    2 XML is great, 6 cell battery should give very long run time. Engineering, safety certifications and durability notwithstanding it's a great looking package.
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    this is a new light because I cannot find any info on it anywhere...anyone heard or seen it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hefeweizan View Post
    this is a new light because I cannot find any info on it anywhere...anyone heard or seen it?
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    Idea! Mj-880

    Seller in Australia has the same pictures in their website, magicshineledlights.com.au

    Doesn't mention price or availability so I sent them an e-mail earlier. He says price to be confirmed but would be about 200 bucks plus or minus 10 bucks.

    Saw an Inton light thats quite similar there too going for $159 Oz dollars. Says it's equiped with XM-L U2 instead of the standard T6 of the 808E and perhaps this MJ-880 as well.

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    Rakuman, I did get a chance to look at the link. I was looking for a review or some user feedback. The only information on the MJ-880 is from the same link you mentioned. That is where I heard of it for the 1st time. It is for sale already for whomever is interested.

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    Oooh! Reminds me of my old Cateye Double Shot!
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    MagicShine ups the ante with this one I guess. Cool looking light head. Not sure about the dual switch setup. I think I would prefer 1 button that controls both LED's simultaneously from low through high or an infinite adjust knob even better perhaps. Look forward to a review on this and wonder if GeoMan will carry it?
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    looks pretty sweet my biggest concern is being able to rig up a different mount. I not a fan of doubles going on one side of the bars I would like to see these mounted in the center . I suppose you could retrofit these to a old nightrider offset mount.
    that said now I want see a beam pattern with those optics. Ive run double xm-ls on my bars and it left me wanting more, I think the real anteup will be triples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakuman View Post
    looks pretty sweet my biggest concern is being able to rig up a different mount. I not a fan of doubles going on one side of the bars I would like to see these mounted in the center . I suppose you could retrofit these to a old nightrider offset mount.
    that said now I want see a beam pattern with those optics. Ive run double xm-ls on my bars and it left me wanting more, I think the real antiup will be triples.
    Surly makes a pretty stout stem cap center mount.

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    The mount O-ring is not the ideal, but since it is a new product no one makes a different mount for it.

    I would like to see an actual picture of the beam pattern as well.

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    Smile Magicshine MJ-880

    Will be released from the factory in mid December. Price unknown but it'll be a very cool stocking stuffer! I'll post pictures when I get mine, soon!
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    MJ-880 is advertised on eBay.UK for 129 GBP
    Magicshine MJ-880 LED Bike Light Torch MASSIVE 2000 LUMENS!! upgrade from mj-872 | eBay

    But the ad also reads
    "This is a brand new light and will be in stock on the w/c 12TH DECEMBER"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakuman View Post
    looks pretty sweet my biggest concern is being able to rig up a different mount. I not a fan of doubles going on one side of the bars I would like to see these mounted in the center . I suppose you could retrofit these to a old nightrider offset mount.
    that said now I want see a beam pattern with those optics. Ive run double xm-ls on my bars and it left me wanting more, I think the real anteup will be triples.
    An interesting offering from MagicShine. Yes, beam pattern will be most important however if these are using a duel switch system that would be a big negative IMO. Beam pattern though will be the most important issue. As most people know XM-L's used with reflectors generally have great throw. Still, there has to be a degree of flood so you can pick lines properly. Once again actual output will likely be in the 1500 to 1600 lumen range. Rather than a duel switch I would like to see this with a 4-way switch like the 872...High, mid-high, medium, and low. Even better with a remote..

    Rak, I agree with your last statement....a triple would have been better however it depends on how hard MS decides to drive the duel XM-L's. As soon as it becomes available everyone is going to want to know how it compares with the 872 and the Baja Double Stryker. In the mean time others will wait to see what Gemini comes up with. Lumen Wars...you have to love um'.
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    Hi guys, we are waiting for Magicshine to send samples, this was the dual XM-L lighthead we suggested almost a year ago finally making it to production. We'll let you know beam pattern info as soon as we have a chance to test. Cheers GeoMan

    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    MagicShine ups the ante with this one I guess. Cool looking light head. Not sure about the dual switch setup. I think I would prefer 1 button that controls both LED's simultaneously from low through high or an infinite adjust knob even better perhaps. Look forward to a review on this and wonder if GeoMan will carry it?
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    Geoman, when you expect to receive some samples for testing?


    Quote Originally Posted by GEOMAN View Post
    Hi guys, we are waiting for Magicshine to send samples, this was the dual XM-L lighthead we suggested almost a year ago finally making it to production. We'll let you know beam pattern info as soon as we have a chance to test. Cheers GeoMan

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    It could be 2-3 weeks before the production samples arrive we are waiting for more info from Magicshine

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    Interesting light. Credit to Magicshine for being swift to produce cost-effective lights with the newer emitters. Depending on the size of the reflectors it should work rather better than a triple, for two reasons. Firstly the XM-L needs a reflector larger than 20mm to provide serious throw. The reflectors on this light may well be larger than 20mm, whereas the optics used in triples are usually rather smaller resulting in a beam that is predominantly flood. Secondly, because of the generally logarithmic way our eyes perceive light intensity, upping the emitter lumen count from 2000 to 3000 will make a negligible difference to perceived brightness It will however reduce runtime by a third and require significant extra heatsinking and therefore weight etc.

    Net result - if this has reflectors that are let's say 30mm in size, then this light will seem brighter than an XM-L triple through a Cute reflector because of its much greater throw.

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    Looks promising. I have one on pre order.

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    ^^^ yeah, it really does! Where did you pre order?

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    Before I go drop the hammer on one of these I'm going to wait and see what Geminis triple XM-L looks like.
    Like I said above I ran 2 MS 808E on the bars with quite a few different lens configurations and it always left me wanting just a little more, I'm now running a 872 and a 808e with clear lens and stock reflector and couldn't be happier, but if I could get both those qualities of mas flood and mas throw in one package that would be the ticket. By the looks of those optics i can imagine some really good flood but i have a feeling throw will suffer some , now if it had optics on one side and a reflector on the other that would give the best of both worlds..
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    Quote Originally Posted by slimphatty View Post
    ^^^ yeah, it really does! Where did you pre order?
    From that uk ebay seller in HakanC:s post above.

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    "Independent stepless switch" according to the pic.

    This could be quite nice if it's true. Press and hold one side and the light ramps up to whatever seting you release the button. Press and hold the other side and it's ramps down the same way. Both LED's on all the time hopefully. Personally I don't want independent left and right control (unless it's a triple reflector then maybe?) as its just one more dam thing to think about.

    I would also like to see a nice center mount for this puppy. My 856 has one and with a few mods has been great so far.
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    Interesting light I would like to see some beam shots and weight and size specs.

    Looks like action led lights is taking preorders with a release date of Jan 1st. Price at 179.95 the competitors have something to worry about.

    Action-LED-Lights — Magicshine MJ-880, 2000 lumen bike light set

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    Wow, I was thinking about preordering with that uk seller but I think I can wait another 2 weeks and save myself $30. Probably won't be putting a bunch of night miles during the holidays anyways...thanks for the link anekin007!

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    Great looking lighthead and reasonable $180 price with that big 6,000mAh battery. Realistic output will be more like 1500 lumens IMO not 2000.

    Since I'm in no rush for another light I'm waiting to see the (almost ready) new Gemini Lights Olympia XML triple. Smaller profile than the MS and possibly a real 1800 lumens not driven hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    "Independent stepless switch" according to the pic.
    I would also like to see a nice center mount for this puppy. My 856 has one and with a few mods has been great so far.
    I should have more detailed specs tomorrow. As I have it so far, this light is basically 2 MJ-808E's mounted in one housing, both with a 10 degree beams. I will be looking into the possibility of using one of our wide angle lenses on one side. It comes with a 6 cell 6600mAh battery pack that uses a different connector than their other lights (needed for the increased current) so an adapter will be needed to use this pack with a MJ-872 or any other light for those wanting extended run time at a reasonable cost.
    As far as a center mount goes, Google "Bike computer mounting bracket" There are several options that come off the stem cap or handle bar that would allow you to put the light in the center in front of your bar. Example
    I believe GeomanGear also carries one. (Link) (you can return the favor some time) though of course you should buy the light from us.

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    This mount is really cool! TY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    I should have more detailed specs tomorrow. As I have it so far, this light is basically 2 MJ-808E's mounted in one housing, both with a 10 degree beams. I will be looking into the possibility of using one of our wide angle lenses on one side. It comes with a 6 cell 6600mAh battery pack that uses a different connector than their other lights (needed for the increased current) so an adapter will be needed to use this pack with a MJ-872 or any other light for those wanting extended run time at a reasonable cost.
    As far as a center mount goes, Google "Bike computer mounting bracket" There are several options that come off the stem cap or handle bar that would allow you to put the light in the center in front of your bar. Example
    I believe GeomanGear also carries one. (Link) (you can return the favor some time) though of course you should buy the light from us.
    I'm looking forward to your next post. My current favorate bar set-up is two 808E's with your wide angle lense on both so being able to run them on the 880 would be a big selling point to me. What I don't like about my curent set-up is that I have to run two batteries (the redesigned cable my explain why I can't get mine to work with a Y-cable).
    Also I'm currently using one of the Geoman light mounts with good results. It's a simple mount so there's no side to side ajust on it, but It easily handles two light heads, centers them, and looks good doing it. Let us know when you get more imformation on the 880!

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    Ok, I finally have some more information on the MJ-880 straight from the Magicshine engineering dept.
    Both beams operate together.
    The 2 switches are like those on the MJ-872, the one on the right steps the brightness up through 10%, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%. The one on the left steps them down.
    Press and hold either button for 2 seconds for off from any setting.
    Both beams are the same though I'm not sure what the angle is. I would guess something like 10˚ - 15˚
    I was hoping for one wide angle and one spot but I'll check into fitting our wide angle lens to one side. That would be better than a straight circular flood anyway.
    The light and battery use a different connector than all there other lights so if your hoping to get a long run time pack for another light it will take an adapter at least. (more on that later)
    I suspect the motivation for that is so you won't plug a 4400mAh pack into the 880. (To much current draw)
    The list price will be $249.99 (yes, Magicshine is finally advertising a price) Street price will be somewhat less but not out of control. (sorry guys)
    Full specs should be available soon but I got what I could for now.

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    Sweet! I have one on pre-order with the special introductory price you guys had a few days ago. THANKS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    The light and battery use a different connector than all there other lights so if your hoping to get a long run time pack for another light it will take an adapter at least. (more on that later)
    bummer

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    Looks to me like stree price is about $200.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    Ok, I finally have some more information on the MJ-880 straight from the Magicshine engineering dept.
    Both beams operate together.
    The 2 switches are like those on the MJ-872, the one on the right steps the brightness up through 10%, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%. The one on the left steps them down.
    Press and hold either button for 2 seconds for off from any setting.
    Both beams are the same though I'm not sure what the angle is. I would guess something like 10˚ - 15˚

    I was hoping for one wide angle and one spot but I'll check into fitting our wide angle lens to one side. That would be better than a straight circular flood anyway.
    The light and battery use a different connector than all there other lights so if your hoping to get a long run time pack for another light it will take an adapter at least. (more on that later)
    I suspect the motivation for that is so you won't plug a 4400mAh pack into the 880. (To much current draw)
    The list price will be $249.99 (yes, Magicshine is finally advertising a price) Street price will be somewhat less but not out of control. (sorry guys)
    Full specs should be available soon but I got what I could for now.
    This light is becoming more interesting as I continue to get more information. Personally I like the idea that it might be a thrower. Yes, if you get different optics to offer as extras that would be great too.

    One of my concerns was "how the switching was going to operate". Basically I was thinking that you might have to "press and hold to switch modes " which would be a PITA.
    Anyway, after reading your post I have a feeling that is not the case. Correct me if I'm wrong though....Once the light is on you "quick press either side" to change modes ( up or down respectively). Then you "press and hold" to turn off. If this is true than "press and hold" is only a function of turning the light off which would be fine. All this being said, this will make changing modes much faster and easier. Since most people will only use the 3 highest modes anyway, changing between modes should be easy and fast ( as long as you don't hit the wrong button )

    It does look as though this light will be driven pretty hard. I figure if the battery is a 6-cell and run time on high is listed as 2.5hrs, the emitters are likely being driven around 2.5 to 3A. each when on high. I can't wait to read the reviews and to see some beam pics when these start being sold. Man, if these had an option for a two-way remote that would of been the icing on the cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    This light is becoming more interesting as I continue to get more information. Personally I like the idea that it might be a thrower. Yes, if you get different optics to offer as extras that would be great too.
    As soon as I have one in hand I will be talking to my mold shop to see what we can do
    One of my concerns was "how the switching was going to operate". Basically I was thinking that you might have to "press and hold to switch modes " which would be a PITA.
    Magicshine was considering a "stepless switch" as there website shows currently but I suggested that was hard to change while riding and steps were the way to go. They are now looking at the five steps with a quick push to change
    Anyway, after reading your post I have a feeling that is not the case. Correct me if I'm wrong though....Once the light is on you "quick press either side" to change modes ( up or down respectively). Then you "press and hold" to turn off. If this is true than "press and hold" is only a function of turning the light off which would be fine. All this being said, this will make changing modes much faster and easier. Since most people will only use the 3 highest modes anyway, changing between modes should be easy and fast ( as long as you don't hit the wrong button )
    You have it right

    It does look as though this light will be driven pretty hard. I figure if the battery is a 6-cell and run time on high is listed as 2.5hrs, the emitters are likely being driven around 2.5 to 3A. each when on high.
    The MJ-808E draws 1.5A at 7.4V. This 880 is basically 2 808e's so I expect about 3A on high. That should make 6600mAh run for 2.2 hours
    I can't wait to read the reviews and to see some beam pics when these start being sold. Man, if these had an option for a two-way remote that would of been the icing on the cake.
    You are aware of the 4 mode MJ-808E we sell with a remote button aren't you. You could mount up 2 of those, one for the right thumb and one for the left.

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    Interesting light.

    Why are they changing the plug design? Seems like an unnecessary change that eliminates users from using perfectly serviceable batteries from other MS and clone products they already own.

    Part of the appeal, to me anyways, of sticking with MS is that all the batteries are thus-far interchangeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    This mount is really cool! TY

    Where can I get this mount from, it's exactly what I'm after

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    For this exact mount click HERE
    If you want something a little lower cost check our site later in the week and we will have a few similar choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peakprowler View Post
    Where can I get this mount from, it's exactly what I'm after
    Here's one from Paul Components. It's all machined aluminum and mounts on the stem cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    Ok, I finally have some more information on the MJ-880 straight from the Magicshine engineering dept.
    Both beams operate together.
    The 2 switches are like those on the MJ-872, the one on the right steps the brightness up through 10%, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%. The one on the left steps them down.
    Press and hold either button for 2 seconds for off from any setting.
    Both beams are the same though I'm not sure what the angle is. I would guess something like 10˚ - 15˚
    I was hoping for one wide angle and one spot but I'll check into fitting our wide angle lens to one side. That would be better than a straight circular flood anyway.
    The light and battery use a different connector than all there other lights so if your hoping to get a long run time pack for another light it will take an adapter at least. (more on that later)
    I suspect the motivation for that is so you won't plug a 4400mAh pack into the 880. (To much current draw)
    The list price will be $249.99 (yes, Magicshine is finally advertising a price) Street price will be somewhat less but not out of control. (sorry guys)
    Full specs should be available soon but I got what I could for now.
    Does the 880 run on a different voltage, and that is why the battery connector is different? I believe all the other Magicshines run on 7.4v.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    Does the 880 run on a different voltage, and that is why the battery connector is different? I believe all the other Magicshines run on 7.4v.
    I guess I can't say that for sure as I haven't held one yet but I believe it is 7.4V. The only half way reasonable explanation I can think of is that they wanted make sure no one ran it off a 2 cell battery or that the other connector couldn't handle 3 - 4 amps.
    I'll try and get a complete answer next time I talk to them.
    I plan to put together an adapter as I think this battery will be popular for other uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    I guess I can't say that for sure as I haven't held one yet but I believe it is 7.4V. The only half way reasonable explanation I can think of is that they wanted make sure no one ran it off a 2 cell battery or that the other connector couldn't handle 3 - 4 amps.
    I'll try and get a complete answer next time I talk to them.
    I plan to put together an adapter as I think this battery will be popular for other uses.
    It's odd if you can run 2x MJ-808s with a Y-cable but can't run the 880 on the same battery if it's roughly the same draw. And for that matter, even 4.5 Amps on the standard 4500mah battery is just a "1C" rating, which is very low. Coming from the RC world, 10C is extremely low, and 20-40C is typical for LiPo batteries. I'll be interested to hear the reasoning behind needing a different connector.
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    MJ-880 Right Out Of The Box

    Finally, the wait is over! My lights arrived today and I felt like a little kid opening my early Christmas presents!

    I must say that the the switch button is soft to touch, far supperior than my old 808e's, but still requires each clicks to get from lowest setting one, to the brightest setting five. Hold the buttons and it turns it off. Left for low, right side for high settings. Both bulbs adjust simultaniously, NOT independent of each other. The dual lens are slightly smaller than a $0.25 in diameter and have a very cool green glow in them along with the rubber top switch when off and connected to the battery.

    The rubber covered battery however is way larger than the other models. That's obviously to pack more juice for the dual set up. I turned off my garage light and observed the beam pattern, I'm very impressed! It has BOTH wide and a far throw! I can't wait to take these out on the trail to really see what it's got!

    For now, check out the pictures. I took side by side shots of the previous models from the 808's, to the 868's, 872's, and of course, the 880's!
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    Great, let me know when you can post some beam shots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    And for that matter, even 4.5 Amps on the standard 4500mah battery is just a "1C" rating, which is very low. Coming from the RC world, 10C is extremely low, and 20-40C is typical for LiPo batteries. I'll be interested to hear the reasoning behind needing a different connector.
    bike lights don't use li-po cells though, they use li-ion, which have far lower discharge rates (1C is pretty huge for li-ion). Li-po are designed for high discharge rates, li-ion are designed for longevity and robustness. Even seriously high quality cells (like the latest panasonics) sag under 2/3C, whereas cheap chinese cells (the *fires) can't even supply 1/3C happily - this is all from testing batteries for a light I built for a friend. 2P uniquefire pack (~4.5Ah) couldn't supply more than 2A without sagging by >0.5V instantly, 2P Panasonic pack (~6Ah) can do 3A with 0.1 to 0.2V sag.

    So, running a 2S2P or 2S1P pack with a twin XM-L light driven at 3A will pull the voltage of the battery down so far that it'll trigger the voltage warnings (I presume this light has them) way before the battery is discharged, leading the consumer to think they have a duff battery that only lasts 20-30min instead of 1 1/2h.

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    MJ-880 Beam Pattern

    Here's the NEW MJ-880 beam pattern (high & low settings) compare to the older mj-808e. Enjoy!
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    WOW, nice beam pattern!
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    I just got word from Magicshine that our 880's will ship this week so we should have them early next week.
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    About the beam shots: Looks like the 880 has a nice wide beam pattern. While it is nice having a wide beam pattern on the bars, distance throw however cannot be judged by looking at a photo unless there are markers for reference. Just pointing that out.

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    Has anyone actually used this light? I am thinking about pulling the trigger on buying one, but I want to hear some actual feedback. I want to know how long the battery lasts and how it handles in hot temperatures.

    I am trying to decide between this one and the Serfas True 1500.

    Cheers

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