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    Magicshine mj-880 anyone?

    Has anyone ordered or know any info on the MJ-880?

    Reviews or Pics?

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    2 XML is great, 6 cell battery should give very long run time. Engineering, safety certifications and durability notwithstanding it's a great looking package.
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    this is a new light because I cannot find any info on it anywhere...anyone heard or seen it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hefeweizan View Post
    this is a new light because I cannot find any info on it anywhere...anyone heard or seen it?
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    Idea! Mj-880

    Seller in Australia has the same pictures in their website, magicshineledlights.com.au

    Doesn't mention price or availability so I sent them an e-mail earlier. He says price to be confirmed but would be about 200 bucks plus or minus 10 bucks.

    Saw an Inton light thats quite similar there too going for $159 Oz dollars. Says it's equiped with XM-L U2 instead of the standard T6 of the 808E and perhaps this MJ-880 as well.

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    Rakuman, I did get a chance to look at the link. I was looking for a review or some user feedback. The only information on the MJ-880 is from the same link you mentioned. That is where I heard of it for the 1st time. It is for sale already for whomever is interested.

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    Oooh! Reminds me of my old Cateye Double Shot!
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    MagicShine ups the ante with this one I guess. Cool looking light head. Not sure about the dual switch setup. I think I would prefer 1 button that controls both LED's simultaneously from low through high or an infinite adjust knob even better perhaps. Look forward to a review on this and wonder if GeoMan will carry it?
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    looks pretty sweet my biggest concern is being able to rig up a different mount. I not a fan of doubles going on one side of the bars I would like to see these mounted in the center . I suppose you could retrofit these to a old nightrider offset mount.
    that said now I want see a beam pattern with those optics. Ive run double xm-ls on my bars and it left me wanting more, I think the real anteup will be triples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakuman View Post
    looks pretty sweet my biggest concern is being able to rig up a different mount. I not a fan of doubles going on one side of the bars I would like to see these mounted in the center . I suppose you could retrofit these to a old nightrider offset mount.
    that said now I want see a beam pattern with those optics. Ive run double xm-ls on my bars and it left me wanting more, I think the real antiup will be triples.
    Surly makes a pretty stout stem cap center mount.

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    The mount O-ring is not the ideal, but since it is a new product no one makes a different mount for it.

    I would like to see an actual picture of the beam pattern as well.

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    Smile Magicshine MJ-880

    Will be released from the factory in mid December. Price unknown but it'll be a very cool stocking stuffer! I'll post pictures when I get mine, soon!
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    MJ-880 is advertised on eBay.UK for 129 GBP
    Magicshine MJ-880 LED Bike Light Torch MASSIVE 2000 LUMENS!! upgrade from mj-872 | eBay

    But the ad also reads
    "This is a brand new light and will be in stock on the w/c 12TH DECEMBER"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakuman View Post
    looks pretty sweet my biggest concern is being able to rig up a different mount. I not a fan of doubles going on one side of the bars I would like to see these mounted in the center . I suppose you could retrofit these to a old nightrider offset mount.
    that said now I want see a beam pattern with those optics. Ive run double xm-ls on my bars and it left me wanting more, I think the real anteup will be triples.
    An interesting offering from MagicShine. Yes, beam pattern will be most important however if these are using a duel switch system that would be a big negative IMO. Beam pattern though will be the most important issue. As most people know XM-L's used with reflectors generally have great throw. Still, there has to be a degree of flood so you can pick lines properly. Once again actual output will likely be in the 1500 to 1600 lumen range. Rather than a duel switch I would like to see this with a 4-way switch like the 872...High, mid-high, medium, and low. Even better with a remote..

    Rak, I agree with your last statement....a triple would have been better however it depends on how hard MS decides to drive the duel XM-L's. As soon as it becomes available everyone is going to want to know how it compares with the 872 and the Baja Double Stryker. In the mean time others will wait to see what Gemini comes up with. Lumen Wars...you have to love um'.
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    Hi guys, we are waiting for Magicshine to send samples, this was the dual XM-L lighthead we suggested almost a year ago finally making it to production. We'll let you know beam pattern info as soon as we have a chance to test. Cheers GeoMan

    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    MagicShine ups the ante with this one I guess. Cool looking light head. Not sure about the dual switch setup. I think I would prefer 1 button that controls both LED's simultaneously from low through high or an infinite adjust knob even better perhaps. Look forward to a review on this and wonder if GeoMan will carry it?
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    Geoman, when you expect to receive some samples for testing?


    Quote Originally Posted by GEOMAN View Post
    Hi guys, we are waiting for Magicshine to send samples, this was the dual XM-L lighthead we suggested almost a year ago finally making it to production. We'll let you know beam pattern info as soon as we have a chance to test. Cheers GeoMan

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    It could be 2-3 weeks before the production samples arrive we are waiting for more info from Magicshine

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    Interesting light. Credit to Magicshine for being swift to produce cost-effective lights with the newer emitters. Depending on the size of the reflectors it should work rather better than a triple, for two reasons. Firstly the XM-L needs a reflector larger than 20mm to provide serious throw. The reflectors on this light may well be larger than 20mm, whereas the optics used in triples are usually rather smaller resulting in a beam that is predominantly flood. Secondly, because of the generally logarithmic way our eyes perceive light intensity, upping the emitter lumen count from 2000 to 3000 will make a negligible difference to perceived brightness It will however reduce runtime by a third and require significant extra heatsinking and therefore weight etc.

    Net result - if this has reflectors that are let's say 30mm in size, then this light will seem brighter than an XM-L triple through a Cute reflector because of its much greater throw.

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    Looks promising. I have one on pre order.

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    ^^^ yeah, it really does! Where did you pre order?

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    Before I go drop the hammer on one of these I'm going to wait and see what Geminis triple XM-L looks like.
    Like I said above I ran 2 MS 808E on the bars with quite a few different lens configurations and it always left me wanting just a little more, I'm now running a 872 and a 808e with clear lens and stock reflector and couldn't be happier, but if I could get both those qualities of mas flood and mas throw in one package that would be the ticket. By the looks of those optics i can imagine some really good flood but i have a feeling throw will suffer some , now if it had optics on one side and a reflector on the other that would give the best of both worlds..
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    Quote Originally Posted by slimphatty View Post
    ^^^ yeah, it really does! Where did you pre order?
    From that uk ebay seller in HakanC:s post above.

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    "Independent stepless switch" according to the pic.

    This could be quite nice if it's true. Press and hold one side and the light ramps up to whatever seting you release the button. Press and hold the other side and it's ramps down the same way. Both LED's on all the time hopefully. Personally I don't want independent left and right control (unless it's a triple reflector then maybe?) as its just one more dam thing to think about.

    I would also like to see a nice center mount for this puppy. My 856 has one and with a few mods has been great so far.
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    Interesting light I would like to see some beam shots and weight and size specs.

    Looks like action led lights is taking preorders with a release date of Jan 1st. Price at 179.95 the competitors have something to worry about.

    Action-LED-Lights — Magicshine MJ-880, 2000 lumen bike light set

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    Wow, I was thinking about preordering with that uk seller but I think I can wait another 2 weeks and save myself $30. Probably won't be putting a bunch of night miles during the holidays anyways...thanks for the link anekin007!

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    Great looking lighthead and reasonable $180 price with that big 6,000mAh battery. Realistic output will be more like 1500 lumens IMO not 2000.

    Since I'm in no rush for another light I'm waiting to see the (almost ready) new Gemini Lights Olympia XML triple. Smaller profile than the MS and possibly a real 1800 lumens not driven hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    "Independent stepless switch" according to the pic.
    I would also like to see a nice center mount for this puppy. My 856 has one and with a few mods has been great so far.
    I should have more detailed specs tomorrow. As I have it so far, this light is basically 2 MJ-808E's mounted in one housing, both with a 10 degree beams. I will be looking into the possibility of using one of our wide angle lenses on one side. It comes with a 6 cell 6600mAh battery pack that uses a different connector than their other lights (needed for the increased current) so an adapter will be needed to use this pack with a MJ-872 or any other light for those wanting extended run time at a reasonable cost.
    As far as a center mount goes, Google "Bike computer mounting bracket" There are several options that come off the stem cap or handle bar that would allow you to put the light in the center in front of your bar. Example
    I believe GeomanGear also carries one. (Link) (you can return the favor some time) though of course you should buy the light from us.

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    This mount is really cool! TY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    I should have more detailed specs tomorrow. As I have it so far, this light is basically 2 MJ-808E's mounted in one housing, both with a 10 degree beams. I will be looking into the possibility of using one of our wide angle lenses on one side. It comes with a 6 cell 6600mAh battery pack that uses a different connector than their other lights (needed for the increased current) so an adapter will be needed to use this pack with a MJ-872 or any other light for those wanting extended run time at a reasonable cost.
    As far as a center mount goes, Google "Bike computer mounting bracket" There are several options that come off the stem cap or handle bar that would allow you to put the light in the center in front of your bar. Example
    I believe GeomanGear also carries one. (Link) (you can return the favor some time) though of course you should buy the light from us.
    I'm looking forward to your next post. My current favorate bar set-up is two 808E's with your wide angle lense on both so being able to run them on the 880 would be a big selling point to me. What I don't like about my curent set-up is that I have to run two batteries (the redesigned cable my explain why I can't get mine to work with a Y-cable).
    Also I'm currently using one of the Geoman light mounts with good results. It's a simple mount so there's no side to side ajust on it, but It easily handles two light heads, centers them, and looks good doing it. Let us know when you get more imformation on the 880!

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    Ok, I finally have some more information on the MJ-880 straight from the Magicshine engineering dept.
    Both beams operate together.
    The 2 switches are like those on the MJ-872, the one on the right steps the brightness up through 10%, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%. The one on the left steps them down.
    Press and hold either button for 2 seconds for off from any setting.
    Both beams are the same though I'm not sure what the angle is. I would guess something like 10˚ - 15˚
    I was hoping for one wide angle and one spot but I'll check into fitting our wide angle lens to one side. That would be better than a straight circular flood anyway.
    The light and battery use a different connector than all there other lights so if your hoping to get a long run time pack for another light it will take an adapter at least. (more on that later)
    I suspect the motivation for that is so you won't plug a 4400mAh pack into the 880. (To much current draw)
    The list price will be $249.99 (yes, Magicshine is finally advertising a price) Street price will be somewhat less but not out of control. (sorry guys)
    Full specs should be available soon but I got what I could for now.

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    Sweet! I have one on pre-order with the special introductory price you guys had a few days ago. THANKS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    The light and battery use a different connector than all there other lights so if your hoping to get a long run time pack for another light it will take an adapter at least. (more on that later)
    bummer

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    Looks to me like stree price is about $200.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    Ok, I finally have some more information on the MJ-880 straight from the Magicshine engineering dept.
    Both beams operate together.
    The 2 switches are like those on the MJ-872, the one on the right steps the brightness up through 10%, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%. The one on the left steps them down.
    Press and hold either button for 2 seconds for off from any setting.
    Both beams are the same though I'm not sure what the angle is. I would guess something like 10˚ - 15˚

    I was hoping for one wide angle and one spot but I'll check into fitting our wide angle lens to one side. That would be better than a straight circular flood anyway.
    The light and battery use a different connector than all there other lights so if your hoping to get a long run time pack for another light it will take an adapter at least. (more on that later)
    I suspect the motivation for that is so you won't plug a 4400mAh pack into the 880. (To much current draw)
    The list price will be $249.99 (yes, Magicshine is finally advertising a price) Street price will be somewhat less but not out of control. (sorry guys)
    Full specs should be available soon but I got what I could for now.
    This light is becoming more interesting as I continue to get more information. Personally I like the idea that it might be a thrower. Yes, if you get different optics to offer as extras that would be great too.

    One of my concerns was "how the switching was going to operate". Basically I was thinking that you might have to "press and hold to switch modes " which would be a PITA.
    Anyway, after reading your post I have a feeling that is not the case. Correct me if I'm wrong though....Once the light is on you "quick press either side" to change modes ( up or down respectively). Then you "press and hold" to turn off. If this is true than "press and hold" is only a function of turning the light off which would be fine. All this being said, this will make changing modes much faster and easier. Since most people will only use the 3 highest modes anyway, changing between modes should be easy and fast ( as long as you don't hit the wrong button )

    It does look as though this light will be driven pretty hard. I figure if the battery is a 6-cell and run time on high is listed as 2.5hrs, the emitters are likely being driven around 2.5 to 3A. each when on high. I can't wait to read the reviews and to see some beam pics when these start being sold. Man, if these had an option for a two-way remote that would of been the icing on the cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    This light is becoming more interesting as I continue to get more information. Personally I like the idea that it might be a thrower. Yes, if you get different optics to offer as extras that would be great too.
    As soon as I have one in hand I will be talking to my mold shop to see what we can do
    One of my concerns was "how the switching was going to operate". Basically I was thinking that you might have to "press and hold to switch modes " which would be a PITA.
    Magicshine was considering a "stepless switch" as there website shows currently but I suggested that was hard to change while riding and steps were the way to go. They are now looking at the five steps with a quick push to change
    Anyway, after reading your post I have a feeling that is not the case. Correct me if I'm wrong though....Once the light is on you "quick press either side" to change modes ( up or down respectively). Then you "press and hold" to turn off. If this is true than "press and hold" is only a function of turning the light off which would be fine. All this being said, this will make changing modes much faster and easier. Since most people will only use the 3 highest modes anyway, changing between modes should be easy and fast ( as long as you don't hit the wrong button )
    You have it right

    It does look as though this light will be driven pretty hard. I figure if the battery is a 6-cell and run time on high is listed as 2.5hrs, the emitters are likely being driven around 2.5 to 3A. each when on high.
    The MJ-808E draws 1.5A at 7.4V. This 880 is basically 2 808e's so I expect about 3A on high. That should make 6600mAh run for 2.2 hours
    I can't wait to read the reviews and to see some beam pics when these start being sold. Man, if these had an option for a two-way remote that would of been the icing on the cake.
    You are aware of the 4 mode MJ-808E we sell with a remote button aren't you. You could mount up 2 of those, one for the right thumb and one for the left.

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    Interesting light.

    Why are they changing the plug design? Seems like an unnecessary change that eliminates users from using perfectly serviceable batteries from other MS and clone products they already own.

    Part of the appeal, to me anyways, of sticking with MS is that all the batteries are thus-far interchangeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    This mount is really cool! TY

    Where can I get this mount from, it's exactly what I'm after

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    For this exact mount click HERE
    If you want something a little lower cost check our site later in the week and we will have a few similar choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peakprowler View Post
    Where can I get this mount from, it's exactly what I'm after
    Here's one from Paul Components. It's all machined aluminum and mounts on the stem cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    Ok, I finally have some more information on the MJ-880 straight from the Magicshine engineering dept.
    Both beams operate together.
    The 2 switches are like those on the MJ-872, the one on the right steps the brightness up through 10%, 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%. The one on the left steps them down.
    Press and hold either button for 2 seconds for off from any setting.
    Both beams are the same though I'm not sure what the angle is. I would guess something like 10˚ - 15˚
    I was hoping for one wide angle and one spot but I'll check into fitting our wide angle lens to one side. That would be better than a straight circular flood anyway.
    The light and battery use a different connector than all there other lights so if your hoping to get a long run time pack for another light it will take an adapter at least. (more on that later)
    I suspect the motivation for that is so you won't plug a 4400mAh pack into the 880. (To much current draw)
    The list price will be $249.99 (yes, Magicshine is finally advertising a price) Street price will be somewhat less but not out of control. (sorry guys)
    Full specs should be available soon but I got what I could for now.
    Does the 880 run on a different voltage, and that is why the battery connector is different? I believe all the other Magicshines run on 7.4v.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    Does the 880 run on a different voltage, and that is why the battery connector is different? I believe all the other Magicshines run on 7.4v.
    I guess I can't say that for sure as I haven't held one yet but I believe it is 7.4V. The only half way reasonable explanation I can think of is that they wanted make sure no one ran it off a 2 cell battery or that the other connector couldn't handle 3 - 4 amps.
    I'll try and get a complete answer next time I talk to them.
    I plan to put together an adapter as I think this battery will be popular for other uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    I guess I can't say that for sure as I haven't held one yet but I believe it is 7.4V. The only half way reasonable explanation I can think of is that they wanted make sure no one ran it off a 2 cell battery or that the other connector couldn't handle 3 - 4 amps.
    I'll try and get a complete answer next time I talk to them.
    I plan to put together an adapter as I think this battery will be popular for other uses.
    It's odd if you can run 2x MJ-808s with a Y-cable but can't run the 880 on the same battery if it's roughly the same draw. And for that matter, even 4.5 Amps on the standard 4500mah battery is just a "1C" rating, which is very low. Coming from the RC world, 10C is extremely low, and 20-40C is typical for LiPo batteries. I'll be interested to hear the reasoning behind needing a different connector.
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    MJ-880 Right Out Of The Box

    Finally, the wait is over! My lights arrived today and I felt like a little kid opening my early Christmas presents!

    I must say that the the switch button is soft to touch, far supperior than my old 808e's, but still requires each clicks to get from lowest setting one, to the brightest setting five. Hold the buttons and it turns it off. Left for low, right side for high settings. Both bulbs adjust simultaniously, NOT independent of each other. The dual lens are slightly smaller than a $0.25 in diameter and have a very cool green glow in them along with the rubber top switch when off and connected to the battery.

    The rubber covered battery however is way larger than the other models. That's obviously to pack more juice for the dual set up. I turned off my garage light and observed the beam pattern, I'm very impressed! It has BOTH wide and a far throw! I can't wait to take these out on the trail to really see what it's got!

    For now, check out the pictures. I took side by side shots of the previous models from the 808's, to the 868's, 872's, and of course, the 880's!
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    Great, let me know when you can post some beam shots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    And for that matter, even 4.5 Amps on the standard 4500mah battery is just a "1C" rating, which is very low. Coming from the RC world, 10C is extremely low, and 20-40C is typical for LiPo batteries. I'll be interested to hear the reasoning behind needing a different connector.
    bike lights don't use li-po cells though, they use li-ion, which have far lower discharge rates (1C is pretty huge for li-ion). Li-po are designed for high discharge rates, li-ion are designed for longevity and robustness. Even seriously high quality cells (like the latest panasonics) sag under 2/3C, whereas cheap chinese cells (the *fires) can't even supply 1/3C happily - this is all from testing batteries for a light I built for a friend. 2P uniquefire pack (~4.5Ah) couldn't supply more than 2A without sagging by >0.5V instantly, 2P Panasonic pack (~6Ah) can do 3A with 0.1 to 0.2V sag.

    So, running a 2S2P or 2S1P pack with a twin XM-L light driven at 3A will pull the voltage of the battery down so far that it'll trigger the voltage warnings (I presume this light has them) way before the battery is discharged, leading the consumer to think they have a duff battery that only lasts 20-30min instead of 1 1/2h.

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    MJ-880 Beam Pattern

    Here's the NEW MJ-880 beam pattern (high & low settings) compare to the older mj-808e. Enjoy!
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    WOW, nice beam pattern!
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    I just got word from Magicshine that our 880's will ship this week so we should have them early next week.
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    About the beam shots: Looks like the 880 has a nice wide beam pattern. While it is nice having a wide beam pattern on the bars, distance throw however cannot be judged by looking at a photo unless there are markers for reference. Just pointing that out.

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    Has anyone actually used this light? I am thinking about pulling the trigger on buying one, but I want to hear some actual feedback. I want to know how long the battery lasts and how it handles in hot temperatures.

    I am trying to decide between this one and the Serfas True 1500.

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    Only to make your decision more difficult:
    Have you considered the Inton NB-04 ?

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    Video review posted on YouTube

    Video review posted on YouTube

    New Magicshine MJ-880 review from bikeempowerment.com - YouTube

    Looks pretty good to me.

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    ooo can't wait for mine to arrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanopatoni View Post
    Video review posted on YouTube

    New Magicshine MJ-880 review from bikeempowerment.com - YouTube

    Looks pretty good to me.
    I hate to always be the party pooper ( ) but there is another video on Youtube that shows the light in actual outside use. Regardless, video is just not a good media to give you any idea of what the distance throw is going to be like even though the beam pattern ( width wise ) looks pretty good. Just like with still photos, if you have no distance references you really have no idea how good ( or how bad ) the lamp is actual working. Video camera optics and light sensitivity circuits really can't do justice to what your eyes will actual see when using the lamp. Better than nothing I suppose but the real low down though will come with user comparisons of the previous offerings.

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    It seems to be a little overpriced to me, compared to the other offerings. At least it's available...
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    Just got a promise from Magicshine that our order will ship tomorrow so we should be on schedule with orders leaving the 1st week of January.
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    Mine arrived Christmas Eve. Will get out to play in the next couple of days.

    First impressions:

    A lot smaller than expected, looks really cool.
    Separate up/down buttons for power.
    Gets REALLY hot even using a fan to cool it. Doesn't step down the power as the MJ-872 does. Is this good or bad? Less annoying, but may result in damage.
    Only 2hrs 50min run time - expected more.
    Still only 180 days warranty on the battery and charger - expected more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inigo_Questa View Post
    Mine arrived Christmas Eve. Will get out to play in the next couple of days.

    First impressions:

    A lot smaller than expected, looks really cool.
    Separate up/down buttons for power.
    Gets REALLY hot even using a fan to cool it. Doesn't step down the power as the MJ-872 does. Is this good or bad? Less annoying, but may result in damage.
    Only 2hrs 50min run time - expected more.
    Still only 180 days warranty on the battery and charger - expected more.
    If you're using a fan and it doesn't step down I would think that to be a good thing....2hr and 50min is not bad. The second charge might get you more and you will likely not use high all the time anyway. Six month warranty on the battery/charger is not bad as long as the light head itself is much longer. Not unusual to get a lifetime warranty on the light head. If you bought from one of the vendors here on MTBR you should be fine.

    Anyway, Merry Christmas and enjoy your new toy!

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    Will this light work on the helmet with the current mount (if you modify it)? It looks pretty low profile and I think it will give you a lot of options if you can mount it on your lid and/or one on the bars (4000 lumens).

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    I got a chance to use these lights and they are great....good wide spot and really floods the trail... The lower profile head and new mount for the head doesn't bounce around like the previous MagicShine light head...the new mounting strap on the batteries work really well and holds in place....Chris at Bikeempowerment.com has them in stock... He also has a couple videos on the new light...

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    Magicshine MJ-880 Field Use

    So I've used these light for at least two rides now, still very impressed with its performance so I thought I should share what it looks like in the field. This is NOT by any mean scientific, I'm merely showing what it looks like in real life application. Hope you enjoy the show! (it is a show )

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    Quote Originally Posted by el cap View Post
    Will this light work on the helmet with the current mount (if you modify it)? It looks pretty low profile and I think it will give you a lot of options if you can mount it on your lid and/or one on the bars (4000 lumens).
    This head will work on the current MagicShine headlight mount...

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    MJ-880's in stock.
    Back orders will go out today
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    A word of warning with the new mounting strap for the batteries... if you are going to make position adjustments of the battery on the frame...make sure to undo the strap!!! The plastic hooks will scratch up your frame if you try to move them without unhooking them and I can only assume that it will do the same thing if they move around on a ride...I would recommend a protective covering for the frame like the offerings from lizard skin in the area where you are going to mount the battery..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrsandiego View Post
    A word of warning with the new mounting strap for the batteries... if you are going to make position adjustments of the battery on the frame...make sure to undo the strap!!! The plastic hooks will scratch up your frame if you try to move them without unhooking them and I can only assume that it will do the same thing if they move around on a ride...I would recommend a protective covering for the frame like the offerings from lizard skin in the area where you are going to mount the battery..
    A low cost easy way to protect the frame and/or stop the light or battery from moving is to wrap the area were it mounts with Friction Tape.
    Friction tape is commonly used on the grips of baseball bats but is usually available at most hardware stores. It is slightly tacky on both sides.
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    For those people who are mounting this light on your handlebars...which light mount are you using and what has been your experience with it? I need something sturdy enough that the light won't move in those rocky parts.
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    Ok, now that I have one of these in my hands Iíll share some measurements and my first impressions.
    Itís smaller than I expected at 2.3Ē wide x 1.18Ē high x 1.96 deep.
    At 4.3oz it seems a little heavy for itís size (the 808 is 3.7oz)
    The mount is wide at the front and narrow at the back so it wonít fit the helmet mount or head strap correctly. You can get it on the mount but I wonít lock in straight ahead. The Magiclight handle-bar clamp-on mount we sell for other MS lights wonít fit this light.
    The buttons are small and a little hard to push. They might be really hard to push with gloves on.
    The cable on the light is 29Ē long. The battery cable is 12Ē
    The beam is about a 10˚ spot, similar to the 808 but a little softer around the edges. It should have a lot of punch on high but as a bar light a little more spill might be better. Iíll take it out on the road tomorrow morning and see how it looks. Iíll be looking into fitting a wide angle lens to it soon.
    The batteries weigh in at 14.1oz. They have a nice hard shell case but the rubber straps are a little small for that much weight. I think it will be a good idea to strap it into a water bottle cage for extra support.
    The connectors are the same 2.1mm x 5.5mm coaxial plug as the rest of the MS lights but the rubber boot is a wide oval instead of round. You can fit the plug of any of the other lights into the battery, it just wonít be water tight. To use another battery with this light youíll have to stretch out the boot or trim the boot or plug to fit. I took a pair of needle nose pliers, stuck the nose into a boot and pulled the handles apart and it worked great. So if you want some longer run times on the 872 or any other light, this might be the ticket. I have some 880 extension cables so if you want to cut them up to make an adapter you could keep the connections water tight. Iíll make some up and list them on the site soon.
    One thing to watch out for is the new Magicshine chargers. They now make 3 different chargers that all look alike. A 1A charger for the 2 cell battery, 1.8A for the 4 cell, and 2.5A for these 6 cells. The 2.5A has the new plug but the only way to tell the other 2 apart is to read the labels. You could easily plug a 2 cell battery into the 2.5A charger but the results could be dangerous.

    Overall I think Magicshine has a contender with this light.

    Iíll take some pictures in the morning to help show the details and give my impressions from a ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimphatty View Post
    For those people who are mounting this light on your handlebars...which light mount are you using and what has been your experience with it? I need something sturdy enough that the light won't move in those rocky parts.
    Hello, I noticed a lot of questions about the new MJ-880 and want to let you know what I think of it so far.

    About the bar mount, it works great with fat bars and not as well with thin bars. If you have fat bars and the space for it then you should be fine. If you have thin bar or no space them you might want to try or make a custom mount.

    Pros and Cons:

    Pros:
    1-great light beam (love it as a helmet light)
    2-well protected 6 cell battery (we got over 2 hours on high during our first test ride, should get longer after it's broken in)
    3-small and light
    4-better Y mount (works best on fat bars)
    5-battery mounts (strong hold/adjustable and removable)*see cons
    6-can use old helmet mounts (new ones hold a little better)
    7-long cords for helmet mounting/Velcro holder strap on cord

    Cons:
    1-buttons are a little hard to press with gloves on
    2-*battery strap screws can scratch the frame
    3-can overheat if not getting air flow (just drops down one setting, still very bright)

    For mounting directly to my helmet I modified my mount a little in the front to make it thinner to fit inside the air vent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.E.P. View Post
    2-well protected 6 cell battery (we got over 2 hours on high during our first test ride, should get longer after it's broken in)
    It would be nice if this were true but Li-ion batteries do not "break in" like NiMH or NiCd. The longest run will be your first one. They then slowly loose capacity with every cycle and/or with age.
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    Just ordered mine! After testing it out I will give my opinion.

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    Now available @ DX as well for $176.10

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    If I was in the market for a new front light this is the one that I would buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    It would be nice if this were true but Li-ion batteries do not "break in" like NiMH or NiCd. The longest run will be your first one. They then slowly loose capacity with every cycle and/or with age.
    Not trying to open up a can of worms here but I have some additional comments. Yes, you are right; Li-ion doesn't need to be broken in...per cell that is. However...with Li-ion battery packs ( multi-cell configurations )....sometimes there is a small delay during the initial charge-ups for the battery pack to become completely balanced. Sometimes this happens, sometimes it doesn't. It all depends on the matching of the cells and how well the self-balancing circuit function of the battery PCB is working. Even so, I wouldn't expect to get more than maybe another five minutes of run time after the pack has *completely equalized. (* If , indeed it needs to do so. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-man-do View Post
    Not trying to open up a can of worms here but I have some additional comments. Yes, you are right; Li-ion doesn't need to be broken in...per cell that is. However...with Li-ion battery packs ( multi-cell configurations )....sometimes there is a small delay during the initial charge-ups for the battery pack to become completely balanced. Sometimes this happens, sometimes it doesn't. It all depends on the matching of the cells and how well the self-balancing circuit function of the battery PCB is working. Even so, I wouldn't expect to get more than maybe another five minutes of run time after the pack has *completely equalized. (* If , indeed it needs to do so. )
    Ok, I can buy that. On to bigger and better things.
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    MJ-880 Battery connectors

    Here is some of the promised detail on the 880.
    First a picture of the new battery

    And the connector for the battery and light

    The actual plug and socket are the same size as all other Magicshine or Gemini batteries and many others too.
    Here they are compared.

    and lastly an 808 plug inserted into the 880 battery

    The 2 slide easily together but you can see that there is a little gap on the sides. If you can live with that or wrap a little tape around it, then this battery can be a reasonably low cost solution to extended run times without changing batteries. Charging it with a 1.8A charger from a 4400mAh pack will work fine, just take 6 hours instead of 4.
    Magicshine 6600mAh battery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Road_Runner View Post
    Now available @ DX as well for $176.10

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    If I was in the market for a new front light this is the one that I would buy.
    Damn! They RAISED the price already, lol.

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    Correction.
    I monitored with more attention, and it does step down continually, but not as frequently as the MJ-872.
    It does get incredibly hot.

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    I just got two MJ-880s today (one for me and one for the wife), and we did a little hike with them tonight. Even though it wasn't high speed singletrack, I can tell that this system puts out helluva lot of light. I had the MJ-870, and this things kills it in every way except weight (but what do you expect if you want to run a big light for long hours). The 870 was a great flood, but to me it seems the 880 throws the light out a lot further.

    A quick plug for Chris at bikeempowerment, but paid him at 4 PM on New Years Eve, and still got the two systems in the mail that day, so that I could have them today. Great service and it's cool to be buying from a true biker, as he answered all of my biking related questions and has a crapload of videos showing the system on youtube.

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    Just got my MJ-880 in today! Took it out for a test ride tonight on some singletrack with two friends, one with MJ-816E and the other with MJ-808. The MJ-880 impressed all of us with how much light it threw out, both flood and spot. We went for a 1 1/2 hour ride and I had no problem with the battery running low. Very nice light, I am happy with my purchase and would recommend it to anyone who wants to light up the trail!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightnut View Post
    Damn! They RAISED the price already, lol.
    Hmm, I see what you mean.

    Well at $185.00 DX just lost its competitive edge over the UK ebay sellers whose shipping times can be counted in days, rather than weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road_Runner View Post
    Hmm, I see what you mean.

    Well at $185.00 DX just lost its competitive edge over the UK ebay sellers whose shipping times can be counted in days, rather than weeks.
    now it is $ 220! really expensive!

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    Crickey! I can't believe that a magicshine is higher priced than the new Gloworm X2 light I've been reading about. What the heck happened? Looks like Magicshine finally went mainstream!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    Ok, now that I have one of these in my hands Iíll share some measurements and my first impressions.
    Itís smaller than I expected at 2.3Ē wide x 1.18Ē high x 1.96 deep.
    At 4.3oz it seems a little heavy for itís size (the 808 is 3.7oz)
    The mount is wide at the front and narrow at the back so it wonít fit the helmet mount or head strap correctly. You can get it on the mount but I wonít lock in straight ahead. The Magiclight handle-bar clamp-on mount we sell for other MS lights wonít fit this light.
    The buttons are small and a little hard to push. They might be really hard to push with gloves on.
    The cable on the light is 29Ē long. The battery cable is 12Ē
    The beam is about a 10˚ spot, similar to the 808 but a little softer around the edges. It should have a lot of punch on high but as a bar light a little more spill might be better. Iíll take it out on the road tomorrow morning and see how it looks. Iíll be looking into fitting a wide angle lens to it soon.
    The batteries weigh in at 14.1oz. They have a nice hard shell case but the rubber straps are a little small for that much weight. I think it will be a good idea to strap it into a water bottle cage for extra support.
    The connectors are the same 2.1mm x 5.5mm coaxial plug as the rest of the MS lights but the rubber boot is a wide oval instead of round. You can fit the plug of any of the other lights into the battery, it just wonít be water tight. To use another battery with this light youíll have to stretch out the boot or trim the boot or plug to fit. I took a pair of needle nose pliers, stuck the nose into a boot and pulled the handles apart and it worked great. So if you want some longer run times on the 872 or any other light, this might be the ticket. I have some 880 extension cables so if you want to cut them up to make an adapter you could keep the connections water tight. Iíll make some up and list them on the site soon.
    One thing to watch out for is the new Magicshine chargers. They now make 3 different chargers that all look alike. A 1A charger for the 2 cell battery, 1.8A for the 4 cell, and 2.5A for these 6 cells. The 2.5A has the new plug but the only way to tell the other 2 apart is to read the labels. You could easily plug a 2 cell battery into the 2.5A charger but the results could be dangerous.

    Overall I think Magicshine has a contender with this light.

    Iíll take some pictures in the morning to help show the details and give my impressions from a ride.

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    Jim- I am considering purchase of this light for bar mount. Have you look into fitting a wide angle lens yet?

    I currently have the L&M Seca700. I am guessing this light will have significantly better light output. Has anyone run both that could give me your perception of differences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wavewagon View Post
    Jim- I am considering purchase of this light for bar mount. Have you look into fitting a wide angle lens yet?

    I currently have the L&M Seca700. I am guessing this light will have significantly better light output. Has anyone run both that could give me your perception of differences?
    I have a L&M Arc almost 700, and I can barely tell it is on, when I put the 880 overtop it. I had an 870 before, and I could see the more concentrated spot from the L&M when overlaying it, but not with the 880. It actually throws the light fairly decently.

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    I know the profile is smaller on the new MS 2000l double light, but will it just be better to buy two MS 1000l lights and run a "Y" cable to a 6.0Ah battery? Chris at bikeempowerment.com has a killer mount for the 1000l light. So I'm thinking two of the 1000l with one flood lens and a "Y" cable and 6.0Ah battery may be the ticket and be less in money than the 2000l MS. It will also give you more options to run one on the bars (or two on the bars) and the other on the helmet for less than one 2000l MS light. Moreover, you can still use your old batteries. Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wavewagon View Post
    Jim- I am considering purchase of this light for bar mount. Have you look into fitting a wide angle lens yet?

    I currently have the L&M Seca700. I am guessing this light will have significantly better light output. Has anyone run both that could give me your perception of differences?
    It will be awhile until I can get a lens tooled and that's if the volume is high enough to pay for the considerable tooling cost. The 880 does have a pretty nice beam as is. It's a wide spot and lots of spill.
    The comment about using 2 MJ-808's, one with a wide angle lens, for less money isn't a bad idea. (or some of the other choices on sale at the website) I'd stick with the 2 4400mAh stock batteries and have 3 hours of run time instead of 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BullSCit View Post
    I have a L&M Arc almost 700, and I can barely tell it is on, when I put the 880 overtop it. I had an 870 before, and I could see the more concentrated spot from the L&M when overlaying it, but not with the 880. It actually throws the light fairly decently.
    Thanks for the feedback. I also had the Arc and replaced the head unit with the Seca700. The difference between the Arc and Seca was not that great from what I remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolo View Post
    now it is $ 220! really expensive!
    indeed!!!

    Well I've changed my mind now, if I wanted a twin XM-L light I would get the Inton Twin for much less money and available now with U2 bin LEDs rather than T6, so even brighter still.

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    @Road Runner... Have you considered the Gloworm X2... It's also a 2 x T6 (not U2 tho). Rated at a conservative 1200 lm rather than Intons.

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    I am going to be honest about the 880, it might be too much light for snow biking at the top couple of levels. I ride decently aggressive singletrack in the snow, at speeds approaching my daytime riding in the dirt, but the reflection off the snow is pretty intense. So you can lower the light output down and the problem goes away. Definitely more of a problem on the up when light reflection from a facet of the snow will stay there a little longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BullSCit View Post
    I am going to be honest about the 880, it might be too much light for snow biking at the top couple of levels. I ride decently aggressive singletrack in the snow, at speeds approaching my daytime riding in the dirt, but the reflection off the snow is pretty intense. So you can lower the light output down and the problem goes away. Definitely more of a problem on the up when light reflection from a facet of the snow will stay there a little longer.
    There are 5 levels for you to choose from. I can ride singletrack pretty ok with the lowest level if you point the light about 4-5 metres down on the path in front of you - no distance spot at that low setting obviously.

    I think many would agree having higher settings on standby is like having a condom in the wallet. Better to have one and not use it than to need it but not have one.

    PS, this may sound nuts to many, but has anyone considered using the MJ-818 rear/tail light as a front light in snow? It's like riding using infrared but and don't get glare. I use that tail light as a mood setting in my room, sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerrimuir View Post
    There are 5 levels for you to choose from. I can ride singletrack pretty ok with the lowest level if you point the light about 4-5 metres down on the path in front of you - no distance spot at that low setting obviously.

    I think many would agree having higher settings on standby is like having a condom in the wallet. Better to have one and not use it than to need it but not have one.

    PS, this may sound nuts to many, but has anyone considered using the MJ-818 rear/tail light as a front light in snow? It's like riding using infrared but and don't get glare. I use that tail light as a mood setting in my room, sometimes.


    Believe me, I am by no means degrading the light because it is too powerful, as I can't wait to have this on technical downhill during the summer nights. I thought it would give a good understanding of it's power. And while going with a decent amount of speed (> 10 MPH), the high level was perfect with the snow, as the reflection points (different facets of the snow) moves by so fast that it doesn't cause as much of a perceptible glare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerrimuir View Post
    I use that tail light as a mood setting in my room, sometimes.
    hahahaha What type of mood are you trying to set with that!..........Although I did do a similar thing with a red lamp in my reading light back in my early 20's

    @Road Runner - good luck with your selection! The light market is very competitive these days with a lot of options available. In the end, customer service and reputation count significantly toward a well produced product. If the after sales support is not there, it doesn't really mater how good the light is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloworm Manufacture View Post
    hahahaha What type of mood are you trying to set with that!..........Although I did do a similar thing with a red lamp in my reading light back in my early 20's

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    That's for me to know and for you to imagine, Bruce. Hey, your new light surely looks good. Seems to me it's almost good enough to be a headstrap mounted SCUBA diving light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BullSCit View Post
    Believe me, I am by no means degrading the light because it is too powerful, as I can't wait to have this on technical downhill during the summer nights. I thought it would give a good understanding of it's power. And while going with a decent amount of speed (> 10 MPH), the high level was perfect with the snow, as the reflection points (different facets of the snow) moves by so fast that it doesn't cause as much of a perceptible glare.
    This again may sound silly, but if glare and not brightness is the problem, then a set of specialized (read: sunglasses) glasses may reduce the glare. The glare problem will exist for any high powered light, I would have thought.

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    I pulled the trigger and purchased this light. I went on my first ride with it last night. I am coming from a L&M Seca700, I felt this light was sufficient but left me wanting a bit more light especially on fast technical descents. I decided to give the MS 880 a try due to price and the reported lumens it puts out. I am very happy with this light, I like the spill and spot patern. Definately plenty of light for the riding I described above. My riding buddy said he now has "lumen envy." On our ride his L&M Arc battery died (old system, probably on it's last legs). The MS 880 made plenty of light to get both of us down the trail at a decent pace too.

    I purchased from Action LED and received excellent customer service. Justin answered many questions over the phone. After a little more thought I decided to give the MS light a try. Placed the order on a Monday, received it on Wednesday and was riding with it on Thursday.

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    It's Jim not Justin but glad you liked the light. Helmet mounts and head strap for the 880 are on the way.

    Jim Harger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    It's Jim not Justin but glad you liked the light. Helmet mounts and head strap for the 880 are on the way.

    Jim Harger
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    Hey Jim-my appologies for getting your name wrong. Thanks for the great customer service!

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    I've got some beam shots now that compare the MJ-880 to the MJ-872.
    Beam Shots

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    I ordered my MJ 880 from Action LED Lights because of the comment about good service. It is on route and I cant wait to test it out.

    I am curious to see if it stays cool in hot weather. I live in AZ and it can be close to 100 degrees at night in the summer months. I am also curious to see how long the battery life lasts. It seems that a lot of light manufactures claim the battery lasts longer than it does. I currently have a Serfas True 1500 which is comparable to the MJ 880, but costs over $100 more. I like it a lot, but the battery life is no where close to 2.5 hours that Serfas claims it runs on maximum setting.

    The claimed battery life for the MJ 880 is also 2.5 hours on maximum setting. Can any speak to that?

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    Something to keep in mind this time of year for those of us living in a northern climate, the capacity of the battery drops in cold temperatures. I've done several rides the the 880 with temps in the 20's and after 2 hours it was flashing red and about done. (On high)
    The light draws 2.8A at 7.4V which should be a good average. So with a 6600mAh pack you should get 6600/2800 or 2.36 hours with a new pack at moderate temperatures.

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