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    magicshine mj-880

    the best thing about my magicshine mj-880 is the price i paid £102 with a special delievey post how goods that, and what a light it is, i have the mj-872 aswell and to compare id say the mj-880 has a longer throw and brighter than the mj-872 which has a bit wider flood than the mj-880 but paired up together its just a match made in heaven god love magicshine for cheap brightness!

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    Smile 189 shipped

    Note about my links: I'm a lurker and don't usually post so you'll have to add your own http colon slash slash www

    Just picked up a MJ-880 from seller ronaku on Ebay for $175 including shipping by using the "make an offer" feature.

    ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320838769125

    He had them listed at 199.99, he just (within the last hour) upped his price to 225. I'd bet he'll still take 175 though.

    Then I headed over to bikeempowerment.com/Magicshine.html and got a helmet mount, extra rubber bands and a cable extension for $14 shipped.

    Total price - $189 for a 2000 lumen bar/helmet mount kit with extras. Not too bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    Something to keep in mind this time of year for those of us living in a northern climate, the capacity of the battery drops in cold temperatures. I've done several rides the the 880 with temps in the 20's and after 2 hours it was flashing red and about done. (On high)
    The light draws 2.8A at 7.4V which should be a good average. So with a 6600mAh pack you should get 6600/2800 or 2.36 hours with a new pack at moderate temperatures.

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    i've been out cycling at around freezing point and there is a definite reduction in battery lifespan. I'm using magicshine 4400s so they are probably crap to begin with, but this winter, I've noticed a marked reduction in their lifespans. I hope they recover this spring

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    Anyone want to buy a slightly used but minty mj-880? Comes with battery pack, manual, and original box, battery charger and geomangear handlebar mount. PM for details.

    EDIT: I also have a mj-808 that I don't use that is for sale too. A bit more used but also works great. Comes with o-rings, battery pack, extension cord, and battery charger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimphatty View Post
    Anyone want to buy a slightly used but minty mj-880? Comes with battery pack, manual, and original box, battery charger and geomangear handlebar mount. PM for details.

    EDIT: I also have a mj-808 that I don't use that is for sale too. A bit more used but also works great. Comes with o-rings, battery pack, extension cord, and battery charger.
    Thanks for the lights Abe. They work great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimphatty View Post
    Anyone want to buy a slightly used but minty mj-880? Comes with battery pack, manual, and original box, battery charger and geomangear handlebar mount. PM for details.

    EDIT: I also have a mj-808 that I don't use that is for sale too. A bit more used but also works great. Comes with o-rings, battery pack, extension cord, and battery charger.
    Thanks for the lights Abe. They work great!

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    You're welcome. Have fun!

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    I wonder how MJ-880 compares to MJ-808E in terms of throw. Does it have enough throw as a helmet light?

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    Quote Originally Posted by butasan View Post
    I wonder how MJ-880 compares to MJ-808E in terms of throw. Does it have enough throw as a helmet light?
    It has twice the output of the MJ-808E (about 1500 actual lumens) focused into approximately the same area so it should have twice the throw. This is offset by the fact that the reflection off of near objects is bright enough to cause your pupils to constrict which reduces your night vision. As a helmet light, look once at the near ground and your blinded for the next 2 minutes.
    You reach a point of diminishing returns as you crank up the output.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butasan View Post
    I wonder how MJ-880 compares to MJ-808E in terms of throw. Does it have enough throw as a helmet light?

    Sure you will get more throw but at what cost the 880 is a pig in weight and size, you are better off with a Xera with a reflector or a 808E for the noggin, keep the 880 on the bars were it belongs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    It has twice the output of the MJ-808E (about 1500 actual lumens) focused into approximately the same area so it should have twice the throw. This is offset by the fact that the reflection off of near objects is bright enough to cause your pupils to constrict which reduces your night vision. As a helmet light, look once at the near ground and your blinded for the next 2 minutes.
    You reach a point of diminishing returns as you crank up the output.
    I have the 880 and it is bright as hell. Like airplane landing gear bright. I guess that would be great in some situations (DH on dark soil at night?) but I ride in Texas hill country limestone (grey-white stone) and settings 4&5 are literally unusable. That amount of lumens bleeds any relief out of the terrain and makes riding more difficult.

    That said, running the light on 2/5 & 3/5 makes for a really great helmet light. It's not too heavy, throws well and I've only ever got the battery barely into the blue (~70%). Also, the strange green glow deal is kinda nice. It gives just enough light so that you can see your bike/water bottles etc without having to run the full beam.
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    I have a Olympia and a MJ-808E as my bar lights, and another MJ-808E as my helmet light. When I point downhill I practically go as fast as under day light so my plan is to ditch one of the MJ-808Es, and get a little more powerful one on my helmet.

    I was initially considering Xera + reflector especially because of its light weight, but after I've seen a couple of beamshots I realized that xera's does not seem to have enough throw (as a helmet light) so now I am leaning toward MJ-880.

    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    It has twice the output of the MJ-808E (about 1500 actual lumens) focused into approximately the same area so it should have twice the throw. This is offset by the fact that the reflection off of near objects is bright enough to cause your pupils to constrict which reduces your night vision. As a helmet light, look once at the near ground and your blinded for the next 2 minutes.
    You reach a point of diminishing returns as you crank up the output.
    Quote Originally Posted by baconismidog View Post
    I have the 880 and it is bright as hell. Like airplane landing gear bright. I guess that would be great in some situations (DH on dark soil at night?) but I ride in Texas hill country limestone (grey-white stone) and settings 4&5 are literally unusable. That amount of lumens bleeds any relief out of the terrain and makes riding more difficult.That said, running the light on 2/5 & 3/5 makes for a really great helmet light. It's not too heavy, throws well and I've only ever got the battery barely into the blue (~70%). Also, the strange green glow deal is kinda nice. It gives just enough light so that you can see your bike/water bottles etc without having to run the full beam.
    I didn't know MJ-880 was that bright.
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    this is really cool. can't wait to get my hands on one

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    Quote Originally Posted by butasan View Post
    I have a Olympia and a MJ-808E as my bar lights, and another MJ-808E as my helmet light. When I point downhill I practically go as fast as under day light so my plan is to ditch one of MJ-808Es, and get a little more powerful one on my helmet.

    I was initially considering Xera + reflector especially because of its light weight, but after I've seen a couple of beamshots I realized that xera's does not seem to have enough throw (as a helmet light) so now I am leaning toward MJ-880.

    I didn't know MJ-880 was that bright.
    There is a new lens for the Xera being developed that makes a tighter beam with better throw. There are beam shots here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    There is a new lens for the Xera being developed that makes a tighter beam with better throw. There are beam shots here.
    The beam looks excellent for helmet use. When they become available it will be time for an upgrade for me!

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    Does anyone have experience on the run time? I ran the 880 at 70%, 50% and 100% at times but at 1:30 mark it's blinking red already. This is no where near 2.5 hours on high claimed on the box/website. Also I was riding in 45-50 degree weather and the light ran hot.

    Has anyone gotten at least 2 hours on high out of the 880?

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    Are you the Duke on STR?

    I have the MJ 880 (bought it new last month) and mine is also getting around 1:30 on high. I wonder if the manufacture's claim on high power is way off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duke777 View Post
    Does anyone have experience on the run time? I ran the 880 at 70%, 50% and 100% at times but at 1:30 mark it's blinking red already. This is no where near 2.5 hours on high claimed on the box/website. Also I was riding in 45-50 degree weather and the light ran hot.

    Has anyone gotten at least 2 hours on high out of the 880?

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    I'm very surprised with the low runtime you are getting. There's a good 30 mins more on blinking red. When you said 40 to 50 degree ambient temperature, do you mean C or F?

    On hot nights at slow speeds it still should still yield over 2 hours.
    At 19C/15kmh or just under 10mph I recorded 3 hours plus minus 10 mins in 5 runs. I had a "mutant" one that gave me 3 hours 30 mins over 2 runs. We still put it as 2.5 hours in our website to be safe due to variables.

    Last question. You have the MJ 6036 square connector battery, correct? Just need to be sure as some sellers switch batteries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duke777 View Post
    Does anyone have experience on the run time? I ran the 880 at 70%, 50% and 100% at times but at 1:30 mark it's blinking red already. This is no where near 2.5 hours on high claimed on the box/website. Also I was riding in 45-50 degree weather and the light ran hot.

    Has anyone gotten at least 2 hours on high out of the 880?

    thanks
    You should try running it all the way to shut off. The nearly 3 amp current draw of the 880 pulls down the voltage of the battery and makes the colors change early. My guess is that if it has just started flashing red and you switch to low it will come back to blue or yellow.
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    There is a 4000K version of this light now. Anyone got there hands one one yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjziets View Post
    There is a 4000K version of this light now. Anyone got there hands one one yet?
    Are you referring to a 4000K color temperature or 4000 lumen output?
    How about a link and then perhaps someone can see what your talking about.
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    I found it on ebay. but my post count is not 10 yet so i can't post a link. Search for Magichshine MJ880 4000K it looks cool. found the site all so www pyrolights .co.za

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    Pyrolights in South Africa must have had these custom made with a cooler LED as I haven't heard about it from Magicshine and it's not on the Magicshine website.
    No opinion on whether or not there claims are real but others on this forum have discussed it before.
    (maybe it was someone from Pyrolights)
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    ouch found the thread 10xMC-E 5C "4000K HyperBoost 6000+lumen" that got to hurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    Are you referring to a 4000K color temperature or 4000 lumen output?
    How about a link and then perhaps someone can see what your talking about.
    oops missed your question I was taking about correlated color temperature.

    I can post a link now. Pyro 2000 - Pyro also on ebay

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    can anyone compare these to a spoke grenade sg1000?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjziets View Post
    oops missed your question I was taking about correlated color temperature.

    I can post a link now. Pyro 2000 - Pyro also on ebay
    The 4000k is the color of the light. I design home lighting systems and the higher the number, the more blue/****e your light gets, the 2700k colors are warm, but you will get much more lumens with the higher color temperatures, but that does not reflect on lumen numbers. So 4000k is the color of the light.
    I do have a question on these lights. I am buying a light for night riding in the mountains local to me in Northern Cal. The magic shine 880 looks like a nice light, but can I bomb down hills at 30mph while using this as my only light? I want a good quality, 2.5 hr run time (at least) and decent weight. I'm not a weight weenie but I don't want to lug up a 3 pound light either. Is the 880 better than the Gemini Olympia for what I want to do?
    Thanks guys, great thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjziets View Post
    oops missed your question I was taking about correlated color temperature.

    I can post a link now. Pyro 2000 - Pyro also on ebay
    FWIW....I think the whole link is a phishing site. If you read the web site they state that they sold their entire stock to another company....if you click on that link you end up at a web site for a travel agency/ product vendor. WTF? I looked everywhere and didn't see the light so who knows what that is about. To me sounds like the old bait and switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazspeed View Post
    The 4000k is the color of the light. I design home lighting systems and the higher the number, the more blue/****e your light gets, the 2700k colors are warm, but you will get much more lumens with the higher color temperatures, but that does not reflect on lumen numbers. So 4000k is the color of the light.
    I do have a question on these lights. I am buying a light for night riding in the mountains local to me in Northern Cal. The magic shine 880 looks like a nice light, but can I bomb down hills at 30mph while using this as my only light? I want a good quality, 2.5 hr run time (at least) and decent weight. I'm not a weight weenie but I don't want to lug up a 3 pound light either. Is the 880 better than the Gemini Olympia for what I want to do?
    Thanks guys, great thread.
    Check out post 111. I've been riding the 880 for a while now and it's really bright. My buddies run different lights (Light in motion, night rider) and my 880 is the brightest by far. We're all 24hr endurance racers, so you know their lights are the real deal. It's just that the 880 is super bright. I've also never ran out of battery or even got close (but I run it on 3/5, never higher b/c our soil here is super rocky and the rocks are white).

    Example. I was riding with my buddies last Friday. They're both on single speed and I'm running gears. On one long, loose hill I dropped them. When they got to the top they said that as soon as I pulled away they felt blind - as if their lights were totally dead. That's how bright the 880 - a guy 2 dudes back was friggin using it to see the trail and he didn't even know it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazspeed View Post
    The 4000k is the color of the light. I design home lighting systems and the higher the number, the more blue/****e your light gets, the 2700k colors are warm, but you will get much more lumens with the higher color temperatures, but that does not reflect on lumen numbers. So 4000k is the color of the light.
    I do have a question on these lights. I am buying a light for night riding in the mountains local to me in Northern Cal. The magic shine 880 looks like a nice light, but can I bomb down hills at 30mph while using this as my only light? I want a good quality, 2.5 hr run time (at least) and decent weight. I'm not a weight weenie but I don't want to lug up a 3 pound light either. Is the 880 better than the Gemini Olympia for what I want to do?
    Thanks guys, great thread.
    Having run both double XMLs in different configurations and triples as in the Olympia. I have to say the Olympia wins hands down for shear amount blinding goodness it has enough flood to highlight the terrain but has plenty of throw for those bombing runs I truly believe I found my perfect bar light in the Olympia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazspeed View Post
    T The magic shine 880 looks like a nice light, but can I bomb down hills at 30mph while using this as my only light?
    To go 30mph on trails I would recommend helmet and bar mounted lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekbob View Post
    To go 30mph on trails I would recommend helmet and bar mounted lights.
    Oh I do the helmet, for sure. Yes a bar mounted light is what I am going for. Thanks

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    New MJ-880 XM-L U2 2200 lumen
    on Magicshine Australia (au)
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    good info thanks

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    Finally decided to pick one of these up after being convinced by all the reviews.

    WOW.

    For the money, super stoked on the light output, design, component mounting and battery life. Doesn't feel or look like a Chinese product. Not sure you need more light when combined with a decent helmet light!

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    Ok MJ-880 fans.
    We've taken the wide angle lens one step farther.
    Interchangeable optics for the MJ-880.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    Ok MJ-880 fans.
    We've taken the wide angle lens one step farther.
    Interchangeable optics for the MJ-880.

    Is this a 10 x 30 like your other wide angle lenses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    Ok MJ-880 fans.
    We've taken the wide angle lens one step farther.
    Interchangeable optics for the MJ-880.

    Purchased. I'll review once I've ridden it a few times.
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    Here are on-the-wall beam shots.


    Standard Optics


    Dual wide optics
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    Hi, this does relate to a Magic Shine equivalent light, as a newbie i'm not allowed to set up a new thread until I've made 5 posts, but what I really I want to know from all you clever people is how to mount the light on my helmet effectively for 2-3 hours of bumpy riding! One of the straps for the mount was already broken from the box and looking at how flimsy the plastic clip was I didn't think getting a replacement would be worthwhile. Using toeclip straps I can make the light firm for sideways movement but there's no lug on the mount base to stop fore and aft movement. Should I stop whingeing and get on with it, bodge something and put up with the extra time this takes to set up and take down, look for a commercial better mount or buy a new helmet for a good portion of the cost of the light and set it aside for night time use only with helmet mount permanently attached?

    If anyone feels sorry for me with a request about mounting rather than all these glorious lights then please copy this as a new thread.

    Thanks!

    The light is a 1600 Tumble and Fall which I think is much the same as the 1600 claimed lumen MagicShine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stege View Post
    Hi, this does relate to a Magic Shine equivalent light, as a newbie i'm not allowed to set up a new thread until I've made 5 posts, but what I really I want to know from all you clever people is how to mount the light on my helmet effectively for 2-3 hours of bumpy riding! One of the straps for the mount was already broken from the box and looking at how flimsy the plastic clip was I didn't think getting a replacement would be worthwhile. Using toeclip straps I can make the light firm for sideways movement but there's no lug on the mount base to stop fore and aft movement. Should I stop whingeing and get on with it, bodge something and put up with the extra time this takes to set up and take down, look for a commercial better mount or buy a new helmet for a good portion of the cost of the light and set it aside for night time use only with helmet mount permanently attached?

    If anyone feels sorry for me with a request about mounting rather than all these glorious lights then please copy this as a new thread.

    Thanks!

    The light is a 1600 Tumble and Fall which I think is much the same as the 1600 claimed lumen MagicShine
    Just get one of these. I've been using the 880 version for a year now and it's fine. It comes with a mile of velcro, so mount it then trim to desired length.

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    Thanks, velcro sounds just the job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stege View Post
    . . . The light is a 1600 Tumble and Fall . . .
    Hmmm. I don't think I'd want to ride with anything called "Tumble and Fall."

    I did that in August. That's what brought me to this forum. I wanted better lights to help prevent it happening again.

    I suppose it could be a good old stalwart British company name. Or maybe they're just trying to be ironic.

    If my Google foo is correct, the T & F 1600 looks exactly like the Xeccon Spiker 1200. Specs seem the same too. They look so much alike, I'm betting it's a OEM/rebadged Spiker. That red porcupine/hedgehog heatsink is sort of a unique fingerprint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    Ok MJ-880 fans.
    We've taken the wide angle lens one step farther.
    Interchangeable optics for the MJ-880.

    Any idea whether it can be compatible with the SolarStorm X2 light?


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    No, it's quite a bit smaller
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    Same question, but for this guy: http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S021414

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    Same question, but for this guy: http://www.kaidomain.com/product/details.S021414
    Since this one looks like a close knock-off of the 880 it would probably stand a chance. But this light looks to have reflectors, not optics.
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    Magicshine mj-880 anyone?

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    Since this one looks like a close knock-off of the 880 it would probably stand a chance. But this light looks to have reflectors, not optics.
    I'm ignorant: does that make the two products non-compatible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    I'm ignorant: does that make the two products non-compatible?
    No, I'd say it's worth a try. If they don't work you can return them and your only out the postage.
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    Magicshine mj-880 anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Action LED Lights View Post
    No, I'd say it's worth a try. If they don't work you can return them and your only out the postage.
    Awesome. I didn't see a chart on your site with that reflector and its impact on output of the 880. Am I missing it?

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